I have a 3.98 GPA in Business (meme degree I know), am I fucking myself by going Naval Officer instead of Air Force or Army? I don't want to wait around for years for the Air Force
>30
>Married
>Colorblind (banned from a lot of jobs)
>What the kids call "Crunchy"
>prefer the coast to inland
>97 ASVAB
>50 OAR
>Have not taken AFOQT
I hear Army treats junior officers a lot like enlisted in the worktype and workload except higher pay? Seems kinda crappy. I definitely don't want to be around gang bangers, cartel kids, and hood rats if I can help it. The Navy separating Officers from Enlisted seems nice, Air Force culture also seems nicer too.

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>>64892280
Uh, what do you want out of the Air Force? You seem aware that it can take years to get picked up for OTS. So what do you want more? AF or Navy? If you want Navy more, then slam dunk. If you want AF more, do you want it so bad you’d be willing to wait years as opposed to leaving for Navy OCS in like 3 months?

>>64892324
Air Force seems to have much better working hours and conditions, ie; not sharing a closet sized room with 3 other guys and not being away from my wife as often.
I plan to at least try to make a 20 year career out of this

>>64892337
>Air Force seems to have much better working hours and conditions,
Job dependent.
>ie; not sharing a closet sized room with 3 other guys and not being away from my wife as often.
Job dependent. Also, you’re not underway all the time.
>I plan to at least try to make a 20 year career out of this
Do you have job goals beyond “AF or Navy”

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How long until E6 in the Air Force? Grok, gimme an answer
>Promoting to Technical Sergeant (E-6) in the Air Force typically takes about 12 years of service on average.
How long until E6 in the Army?
>Promoting to Staff Sergeant (E-6) in the Army typically takes between 4 to 8.5 years of service, with an average of roughly 6 years.

Why would I volunteer to be broke for longer and have less legal protections?

>>64892356
Well I'm colorblind and my degree is in business, so that more or less leaves me with Supply in both branches.
My goal is to spend as much time with my family as possible and retire at 50-ish with a decent chunk of money. Civilian market is fucked and I can't get a job offer for anything over $17/hr even with a degree where I'm at

>>64892394
The Air Force will say "quality of life" as if living off-base isn't possible after hitting E-5 during your first contract with the Army.

>>64892280
dude navy O is like the ultimate O. You will be the most respected there.

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>>64892445
People who enlist don’t care about promotion rates/timelines. That doesn’t matter until like year 5. Nobody is asking a recruiter about E-6 promotion rates.

Also, that shit changes all the time and is job dependent. It’s really not worth worrying about when you’re first joining. Most Air Force people just accept they’ll probably be terminal E-6 if they stay in. Beats the Marines at least.

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>>64892443
>Well I'm colorblind and my degree is in business, so that more or less leaves me with Supply in both branches.
Well, you have more options than just supply, but, yeah, pilot ain’t happening. You’re probably gonna be some kind of desk warrior. Still, I’d look into your job options a little more. I think the Navy makes it a little easier to lock in a job you actually want. Although, Air Force missileer (13N) might check a lot of boxes for you, but I don’t know how much control over your job the AF actually gives.
>My goal is to spend as much time with my family as possible and retire at 50-ish with a decent chunk of money.
Probably a lotta jobs that will limit away time from family in both branches.
>Civilian market is fucked and I can't get a job offer for anything over $17/hr even with a degree where I'm at
Well, if you’re currently unemployed, that changes a lot. Like I said, can you wait 2ish years until you finally have your feet standing on Alabama soil (or wherever OTS is)? Assuming you even get picked up. Unless something has changed recently, I heard Air Force OTS is still kind of a shitshow. How soon do you have to pin your butterbars before shit starts falling apart?

>>64892540
I thought 13N strictly required a STEM degree?
Otherwise, I'd be fine with sitting in the shelter hovering my hand over the destroy the world button for a few days a week.
I currently have a job but no health insurance and can't easily rent. Life isn't going to collapse but I'm one mistake away from drowning. I'm also older at 30 so time commitment to sit around waiting is not really easy anymore since sitting around bumming on minimum wage trying to care for a family is hard.

>>64892565
>Robert thinks he needs to announce himself, as if we don't already know he is always here, forever seething

>>64892280
You should watch the 2008 PBS documentary Carrier, with was a 10 part series about the crew of the USS Nimitz if you want to get a sense of what life is like in the navy
https://www.pbs.org/weta/carrier/full_episodes.htm

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>>64892626
>I thought 13N strictly required a STEM degree?
It seems you’re correct. So scratch that off the list too.
>I currently have a job but no health insurance and can't easily rent. Life isn't going to collapse but I'm one mistake away from drowning. I'm also older at 30 so time commitment to sit around waiting is not really easy anymore since sitting around bumming on minimum wage trying to care for a family is hard.
Yeah, it’s really sounding like Navy is gonna be the better bet for you. You can reach out to an Air Force/Space Force recruiter. They can probably tell you what the timeline is these days for getting picked up, but Navy will probably be the quicker option. Coast Guard is also pretty tough to get into. Don’t go Marines.

Maybe consider Army too, but Navy is sounding like the best option for you. Look into some Navy jobs and see if any of them would be a good fit for you.

>>64892854
Coast Guard bans the colorblind entirely from O side, just blanket ban.
Marines I'm too old for and don't want to do anyways
So the options are Army, Navy, or Air Force/Space Force.
I already have an application in for Supply Corps but it weighs on me I may regret not waiting in a few years

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>>64892864
>So the options are Army, Navy, or Air Force/Space Force.
>I already have an application in for Supply Corps but it weighs on me I may regret not waiting in a few years
Did you reach out to an AF recruiter just to find out what the wait times are looking like? Did you research other opportunities in the Navy before settling on Supply?

Joining the military is not mandatory

Reminder that Robert has been posting the same stupid bullshit on here for 2,953 days. This website is all he has.

Does anyone know what Robert did while 4Chan was down for a month?

>>64892906
my OAR is too low for anything else Navy side and my degree isn't STEM. I like the concept of intel but I'm just not very competitive for it and I actually do enjoy being an excel monkey.
I thought about branching Armor if I went Army as a possibility but I don't think they get a choice?

>>64892987
Its the guy talking about himself because he wants to feel like he is internet famous despite also craving anonymity

Eternal ETN1 Shitass posting

Lightning round Pt 2:
>Nuke community is full of furries
True, but believe it or not most technical communities are
>Nukes make rank fast
I wanted to talk about this more. I joined in Jun 2019 and made E6 in November 2024. All nukes are E4 coming out of A school (first school after bootcamp, 3 or 6 months depending on rate, MMN is 3 EMN and ETN is 6), then you do Nuclear Power School (another 6 months at the same location, learn nuclear physics and plant operations), then prototype (Another 6 months, qualify on a training sub for the first time), then hit the fleet. Once in the fleet, we can reenlist for BIG money and also auto promote to E5. E6 is competitive. E7 requires a very difficult qual as a hard requirement. E6 nukes with gold chevrons (in the navy for 10 or more years without going to NJP) are actively looked down on for this reason. You didn't get the qual you needed to make chief in 10 or more years, you are likely dead weight. An E4/E5 Nuke is just a regular dude, E6 is kinda important, E7+ are walking gods
>I was going to be a nuke but....
Cope, seethe, mald. I'm surprised you didn't knock out your DI or whatever mall ninja shit people like this say
?Whats training like
40 hour work week in A and C school, plus whatever additional hours you're required to do based on grades. I was fortunate to be on 10-0s, meaning 10 additional study hours a week, none required per day. I knew many guys on 25-5s, 25 additional study hours for a minimum of 5 hours a day 5 days a week. It's like grade school, come in, sit down, classroom instruction on different topics, homework, tests. All tests are short answer, no multiple guess. In C school we averaged 3 tests a week for 6 months. Prototype is 6 months on the job training and qualification.This is why we look down on standard navy exams/quals. Is it earned? Yes. Is it annoying to everyone else? Yes. Is it fair? No.
>Do you do operator shit?
Yes and no. Not in the traditional sense.

>>64892968
He was begging sharty admins unsuccessfully to make /k/ over there so he could thread bake /meg/ and continue complaining about the US military.

>>64893496
Qrd?

>>64893567
>Qrd?
Autistic obsession or mental illness.

>>64893474
Based, appreciate every nugget from you, Shitass

>>64893496
>thread bake
I've never seen this term used before. Is this some new gen alpha lingo?

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anyone know what 17E is like? I already do electronics and radio stuff, and am considering going in the guard or reserves

>>64894082
never thought i would explain this but I'm really bored today so here I go:
>Make a thread
and
>Bake a bread
rhyme and are interchangeable and have been used commonly to refer to making continuous threads on one topic for almost two decades.
Thus, "thread bake" is simply a shorthand variation/evolution of "bread bake" and "make a thread"

>>64894491
17E is essentially the anti-sigint job.
While enemy sigint tries to passively collect data, communicate, or operate, your job would be to disrupt all of that from happening.

>>64894691
Sounds sick af

>>64894901
17E AIT is nearly half a year so sit tight.

>>64893995
I'm here for you, Shipmate. Being a nuke is dogwater, no doubt, but I remember being in this thread in DEP and almost being scared away by the post in OP. Having been on 2 combat deployments as a Nuke, an LPO, a Reactor Operator, a watch supervisor yaddy yadda, I can say confidentially that it is a shit job, but not even close to the worst one I've had. I actually kinda like it despite it's flaws. I figured I'd come back here and try and set the record straight, at least until they stop posting the prolapsed butthole guy's story as the singular data point.

I would HIGHLY recommend anyone joining with above a 3rd grade reading level to READ Starship Troopers. I mean READ it. The audiobook is available in Youtube. It's required reading at the AF academy as far as I'm aware, and it's the only book you're allowed to bring INTO nuke school. It really changed my perspective on the military and that perspective has served me well.

>>64895039
We could replace it with a much more in-depth pastebin that goes into detail, if you'd care to write it up

>>64894660
Thanks, ChatGPT!

>>64895097
Give me some time and I can do that, yeah

What's happening aboard the Gerald Ford?

They are probably Gerald Bored.

>>64895478
Too late, the paid shills already did their job earlier in the day. Being so late and lazy is why you aren't paid to do what they do.

>>64895556
Why is a non-serve so upset about this?

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>>64895556
that nigga looking ZESTY

>>64892626
>I thought 13N strictly required a STEM degree?


13N is literally the least desirable officer job in the entire air force and you have a strong change of getting it because almost no one actually wants to do it.

>>64895803
>13N is literally the least desirable officer job in the entire air force and you have a strong change of getting it because almost no one actually wants to do it.
He’s right. I double checked him. A stem degree is a requirement for 13N. What all counts as a STEM degree? I dunno, but I don’t think he qualifies.

Also, 13N is overhated. Those niggas come out with PHDs and shit cuz they just take their textbooks down the hole to study or jerk off or whatever.

It's hard to fuck up being an officer. You really have to try to make being an officer not worth it for your finances/life/career.

>>64895556
Most intelligent Soldier:
>Buys a Camaro at 26% APR
>Sells his NVGs on Facebook Marketplace to make monthly payment
>Gets arrested next week

Most homosexual Airman:
>Sells millions of dollars worth of stolen medical devices
>Buys a house, Porsche, and BMW in cash
>Gets arrested years later

so I want to sign up, and I don't anything on medical record, no depression, never prescribed with anti-depressants, never forced to go to an institution, or seek a medical professional
but I did visit a highschool counselor only once after my parents called who were worried about my well-being, I brush it off with the counselor and said I was fine and never had to visit again
can I still get disqualified? I don't know if that counselor visit is on any of my papers or permanent record

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Join the Navy!

ngl I'd be cool with being a 13N if I was down there with a slutty chick
>tfw ywn have sex for two weeks with some AF skank after turning the keys and ending the world

>>64897525
Are you literally a teenager? You communicate like one.

>>64897421
Probably won't show up anywhere. But if they find a counseling session through Genesis or your school, they will ask you about it.
>>64897552
Some people stop maturing during high school.

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>>64897552
Nigger, you are on a Mongolian basket weaving forum. wtf level of grammar are you expecting here? STEM degree haver if that makes you feel better or worse about your conceptions of society.

>>64897601
It has nothing to do with grammar lol

>>64897614
You must be fun to be around irl.

>>64897628
Yeah I like to think so : )

>>64897428
ching chang chong

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>>64897593
I would like to point out this man was half of a duo in Vietnam that went by the moniker of 'Blackman and Robin'. Expecting maturity in uniform is just being ignorant. Also go fuck yourself.

>>64897764
>Expecting maturity in uniform is just being ignorant.
Did I say that? I don't think I said that.
I can tell you what I think in totality though, I agree with >>64897552 because it sounds like what a coombrain retard would fantasize about.

>>64897764
NTA, but as a service member myself (O-side), I can all but guarantee that this colonel would fuck you up if you didn't show him the upmost courtesy, and respect when talking with him including the proper greeting of the day + salute. Maturity is expected in uniform when you are speaking to someone of a high rank than you (especially senior officers/enlisted) that's literally the most level 1 military shit you should know.

>>64897601
>STEM degree haver
oh so you're not 19 you're 22

I have a lipoma on my arm. It doesn't interfere with any functionality or utilizing equipment, isn't big barely 1.5' across and protrudes out a few mm tops, does not cause me any pain or discomfort even if pressed or squished or pushed around, and really isn't even noticeable unless I point it out or my arm is inspected closely. I don't have any paperwork on it and don't have health insurance to get it looked at and biopsied and all that again. Do you think the Army will let me join without any medical records on it, or will I have to get it looked at beforehand and cleared for sure?

>>64897811
inches not feet sorry y'alls

>>64897811
Your LARPs are getting more elaborate but no more believable, Robert.

>>64897811
Lipoma is not disqualifying. If the doctor at MEPs has a problem with it, the most they'll do is tell you to get it removed and come back when its gone but that's only if it's really noticeable/bad. I would not bring it up with your recruiter or the doctor at MEPS because you said it brings no ill effect on you.

Medfag here sorry for late response.

>I'm currently an EMT.........

>Is joining the military solely to pay for schooling a good idea?
It depends on you. I would not recommend joining SOLELY to get schooling paid for. It can be the biggest influence on your decision, but you should also want the experience.

>What branch would be the best for someone like me?
Since you want to avoid combat at all costs, I would advocate air force, then navy, then army. You may also consider getting an education first and then going to the military for loan repayment, for which there are programs.

>Am I right to worry about being given a combat role/Is there any way to guarantee it doesn't happen?
If you want your paramedic, you can enroll in the Army Paramedic Training Program, which requires that you first become a 68W, or combat medic. 68W is a combat role, you fight with the infantry. If you want to avoid combat, this is not for you.

As for nursing, you can enter the HPSP program with nursing school, then serve active duty, or go to school first and get loan repayment. Nurses do not have combat as a primary part of their job, but nobody can guarantee that you will not be in a firefight. If fired upon, you would be letting your team down by not returning fire.

At this time, I do not believe that the military would be willing to employ conscientious objectors. You will have to decide on whether or not you would be willing to permit shooting back.

>Will the military pay for both paramedic and nursing?
Yes though not at the same time.

>How much schooling will the military pay for, and how much will they pay?
Depends on the type of schooling, I don't know much about general student loans, since I entered with my bachelor's degree.

>And of course, if there's anything else I should know...

I do not recommend taking a medical career in steps. If you want to be a doctor, work towards that. You do not need, nor benefit from, an EMT, Paramedic, and nursing education first.

Army HPSP here, happy to answer questions about what its like getting medical school through the military. Dental and vet are pretty much the same.

I can also interpret medical DQ concerns. Give me a day or two to respond, likely.
>branch, condition, meds, etcetera.
I cannot answer questions about how deep genesis goes, MEPS doctors, etc. I ain't a MEPS doctor.

>>64887340
See
>>64897854

>>64887383
Ask again, I might not have seen it or thought of a response at the time.

Not the guy above.
Nursing is an expensive profession to enter that sucks up all your time, leaves you drained, and spits you out like a revolving door. Nurses are extremely replaceable and the career is high turnover.
I highly recommend being a doctor or surgeon instead.
>t. mom was a nurse, family full of doctors

>>64897825
>everyone is robert
>standing up for 92fag in the last thread
You are a neverserved.

>>64897854
>HPSP program
So I can apply to this while in the middle of completing my ADN right? As long as I have the appropriate GPA and amount of completed credit hours according to the details on the website?

>>64897910
>ADN
No, HPSP is only if you're enrolled in a four-year nursing degree program. You'd have to complete your associates degree and then transfer your credits into a four-year university. IIRC the HPSP is only granted to people that are enrolled in programs that grant them a bachelor's (i.e. four-year universities). Your ADN will give you the second requirement of credits/GPA, though.

Realistically speaking, you should/could start the process now to make sure you maximize the amount of time you receive a stipend for.

>>64897910
Further research, I am wrong about nursing school. The army and air force do not have a BSN program, and the HPSP program pays for additional training for nursing in specialty fields like crit care, trauma, perioperative etc. Unfortunately, I think I'd have to redirect you to an actual medical recruiter to get your questions answered. It appears that the nursing programs require you to already have a BSN, but there are ROTC programs at some colleges that will transition into military service as well.

The VA does have a BSN program though, and an ADN program. I don't know the differences that the VA HPSP program has, except for that you are never at threat of being deployed and you repay your education by working at the VA.

That being said, might be worth talking to a medical recruiter, they will actually leave you alone if you make it clear you're not interested after getting questions answered.

>>64897966
The Navy has a nursing degree program if you're a 3-to-4th year student. I made a mistake in my previous post calling it HPSP when it's called the NCP (nurse candidate program).

Linked the relevant program authorization below:

https://www.mynavyhr.navy.mil/Portals/55/Career/OCM/PA-116C_Nurse_Candidate_Program_%20NCP_Oct-2023.pdf?ver=j88wwbPLt1KrswCTXkyspg%3d%3d

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>>64897887
1. Why would you be upset about someone calling you Robert in isolation to #2 point below?
2. Why are you mad that someone would stand up for a namefag (who isn't presently ITT)?
3. Why do you think the anon is the same person as a random anon last thread?

Schizo faggot behavior. This is how we know you are Robert.

>>64897794
That's the neat part. We're on the internet talking anonymously. There are no ranks here.

>>64897778
I dunno, you seem pretty upset about someone making a sex reference about a situation that is never going to happen though.

>>64897799
lol if you expect maturity you should get off of this site, big guy

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>>64898060
>you seem pretty upset
No not really, you are just outright stating I said shit that I never said.

Starting to get the feeling that I basically got passed through bootcamp. My brain is completely adhd rotted now and I'm prone to behaving like an emotional child in job training

>>64892043
Any methods on how to dodge Genesis? I’m aware of how to seal records with IHS, I’ve already contacted every provider & hospital I can think of (down to the one I was born in).
Kicker is that I was previously diagnosed with anxiety, prescribed medication a single time in high school and never refilled. Finished college and looking for direction in life, but would hate to be permanently DSQ’d based on a one-time interaction with this country’s shitty healthcare system. For all intents and purposes I’m a complete normalfag besides the fact that I’m on the 4th channel.

>>64898196
If genesis even has your anxiety usage, the worst they would tell you is that you need to have a doctor say you're no longer anxious (along with the fact you need to be two years clean on ADHD medication, but you already have done that). Do not mention it to your recruiter/MEPs doctor, let them bring it up for you if it's a problem.

>>64898196
They will probably just make you get your prescription records.
However if you want to dodge Genesis entirely you can try this: https://www.reddit.com/r/mhs_genesis/comments/18rop64/how_to_beat_mhs_genesis/
Warning, it may take longer than just going through the waiver process. I personally haven't heard of anyone trying this. pick your poison.

>>64898206
Thank you.

>>64898212
This is legendary, you are a godsend

>>64898060
Imagine stirring shit up and then getting upset when people start point fingers at the shit stirrer. Or maybe that's the point, seeking negative attention because you know you're unlikeable but are too weak to wean off of the desire to socialize with other humans.

>>64897966
What's the best way to talk to a medical recruiter for the Army? Just fill out a regular recruitment interest form and go from there?

likelihood of dying for the epstein class has never been higher, are you offering any good sign on bonuses? Any way to ensure i get a role recruiting teenagers on 4chan instead of actually getting nuked myself? Also any way to alleviate the concern i might go to hell for this

thank you

>>64898354
Same way you're ensuring that you aren't getting tossed into the meatgrinder yourself, I imagine.

>>64898309
I made a joke. You know what a joke is right? Then you all decided to dog pile because apparently it is blue falcon-ville in here. Don't bother with anymore (you)s.

>>64898143
I would assume you were in uniform, why else would you be in here trying to get people to sign their life away? Hence why I made a comment about being in uniform. Not really too much of a strawman and more of just deductive reasoning.

>>64898335
They have separate recruiters, look up AMEDD recruiters on Google and find one close to you, or if you went to college you can call their advising office and ask, I can guarantee a recruiter drops stuff by at least yearly.

>>64898371
So what branch of the military are you looking to join? After all, this is a thread dedicated to discussing how to get into the military.

Anons, if I have a STEM degree and a non-violent non-CSC felony is it possible to get a moral waiver to the officer corps in any branch?

>>64898354
I served for 3 years, got paid a lot to travel to several really cool places, earn legitimately useful industry standard certifications, got out, and immediately got a job making over $100k a year, no degree, and now I can use the GI bill to not only get a degree but also pay my rent.
If you are smart about your service you can do very little and get a lot out of it.
If you are already stupid, the military probably won't make you less stupid.

>>64898435
There's a waiver for everything, but what is a non-CSC felony exactly? It could limit your options

>>64898471
I'm saying my felony was neither violent nor sexual.

>>64898474
AFAIK a felony prevents you from getting a security clearance, so you might be cooked dog. You can always enlist, I know dudes who got felonies while still in active duty and they're on a boat right now

>>64898399
Interesting. I do have a BA already and my alma mater has strong military/ROTC presence. Thank you.

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>>64898490
Owari da...

>>64898449
The person you are responding to is so stupid that he caught a BCD during basic and has now made it his life's mission to prove them wrong by doubling down on his retardation

If I got out a couple years do I have to go get a fuck ton of waivers if I want to go back in?
I ran away a ton when I was 9 years old in foster care and got baker acted(72 hour hold) a few times cause my faggot ass foster parents wouldnt give me food. That was almost 20 years ago at this point.
when i joined i just said nothing and got through but that was in 2016. Did 6 years.

>>64898643
Please provide proof of service

>>64898707
Chemical corps eh? Never had one of you guys roll in here. What was that experience like?

>>64898737
Deleted the pic but it wasn't so bad, life in USSOC was better because we were allowed to wear black on black PTs and didn't have to salute.
I was on the B team at Group, didn't do so much chem stuff all I did was inventory BII, gas masks and show GBs how to PMCS a humvee. Also doing my company SGMs records to make sure all his charts were green for command and staff at BN. Deployments were money, made 20 grand just screwing around in South America for 6 months.
Would do it again unless this waiver process is a bitch.

>tell my mom I'm joining the army
>she goes through the stages of grief
>as my shipdate looms closer she's becoming more naggy and intense
Man. Why does family get so annoying about this? or is it just me?

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>why do my parents love me? >:(

>>64897428
wtf

>>64898771
Well lucky for you, getting back in shouldn't be too tough. Everything you are talking about happened before you got in the first time, so as long as you got out as RE-1, you should have as easy of a time getting in again as when you first signed up.

Question I have for you is whether you want to go back for more of the same or if you are looking to do something else

>>64898879
>LOOK AT MY PICTURE
>PLEASE BE DEMORALIZED GI
Stop posting selfies, poojeet

>>64898887
Yeah I had a clean bill of health, talked to BH a few times while I was in cause family members died but nothing service limiting, RE-1 and went on my way.
Might be interested in a different MOS but I do want to go back to airborne units so I can jump again.

>>64898821
Same thing happened when I joined, Grandfather said I was gonna step on a landmine and I was gonna fall to my death when I volunteered for airborne school.
They'll get over it when you get out of basic.

>>64898874
wow nice obvious projection and deflection.

>>64898902
It sounds doable. Best of luck, and be sure to drop in to provide some input on the process for prior enlisted. Data points like yours mean a lot.

>>64898960
Will do I'm gonna try to go see a recruiter in a few weeks when I get back home.

>>64898821
You wouldn't be a proper serviceman without randomly mentioning hating a parent.

>>64898984
What has you so upset today?

>>64898874
>>64898984
??? I love my mom, she is obviously not at ease and I am venting here because I don't know how to deal with it.
>>64898937
>They'll get over it when you get out of basic.
Thanks. I heard the same from others who went in before me.

>>64897810
>>64897428

>Saar I posted story again saar
>I also posted the image from 2021 and video from 2023 as proof saar!
>BELLIVE ME SAARS! TOILETS CLOGGED NOT REDEEMED!!!!!

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What's the difference between Virginia tech core of cadets and the Virginia military institute?

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>>64898771
Oops teehee

>>64898449
You can use your GI Bill to pay off a house too instead of blowing it on rent.

>>64892043
I know this is for the military, but I figure this is the best place to ask.

Federal job questions here,
If someone was on antidepressants or voluntarily went to inpatient therapy, will they know about it like they would with Genesis? Or is ot just a basic health check like for drugs or blood pressure?

>>64897887
>92gfag
What ever happened to him? Did he ever get his reclass or did he just get out? Whatever happened to him i sincerely hope he is happy. What happened to him was pretty dirty.

Reminder that 92G has zero respect for Robert and there is clearly some weird hangup that Robert has about the poor guy.

>>64900204
Pretty sure they use something similar to Genesis called Join Legacy Viewer.
What they see is diagnosis.
If you want to prevent them from seeing that you gotta restrict your data from surescripts by doing an optout.

>>64900573
>posted it again award

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wtf is all this USMC "break you down so they can build you back up" BS?

axing for fren

>>64895836
>Also, 13N is overhated. Those niggas come out with PHDs and shit cuz they just take their textbooks down the hole to study or jerk off or whatever.


Tbh, as someone who works in missiles on the enlisted side 13n looks chill and if I ever do try to commission thats what id put in for.


But to your average college kid who either wants to travel the world, be a fighter pilot, or become commander than sitting in a hole in the ground probably isnt that appealing.

>>64901134
Simple, just comply with the government's training programs and you wont die in combat.

>>64900540
>>64900698

with the two agencies I went through the complete application process for they never ask, and if they somehow know, they dont give a shit. Its probably different for the intelligence community, they probably actually care, but as long as you weren't involuntarily committed somewhere, LE doesnt care.

>>64901134
Marketing BS. All it really means is taking you from your comfortable environment growing up, removing comforts and distractions, and providing a new and unique lifestyle in a community that is wildly different than what you grew up in. What ends up happening is young adults come out of it with a greater understanding of teamwork, responsibility, and capability.

>>64901587
Robert, 92G did not agree with you or like you. He's not your friend just because neither of you like the military. Stop trying to pretend he is your friend or that you can use him to justify anything you have said over the past SIX years of non-stop ranting about the US military.

>>64900698
>>64901490
So it requires sending in a notarized letter? I suppose that filters out the sovereign citizens for whatever reason
Thank you.

>>64900204
Does anyone else have any input on this?

>>64901587
>Look at me!!!! I'm miserable and need other people to share my misery! Look at meeeeeeeee!!!
>*lies, deceit*
>Please talk to me!!!!
In another universe, Robert's name is Roberta and he's a very BPD "pick me" girl.

>>64901681
>How dare the Army kick me out for being mentally ill! I'll show them by spending A FUCKING DECADE ON 4CHAN RANTING ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE THE ARMY! THAT'LL SHOW THEM! THEY SHOULD'VE LET ME PASS SO I COULD GO TO AFGHANISTAN AND MURDER WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND... totally prove them right about me... and then end up in military prison for the rest of my life... WELL GUESS WHAT I WILL TRAP MYSELF IN MY OWN DIGITAL PRISON INSTEAD!

>>64901640
>So it requires sending in a notarized letter?
If youre worried about psych stuff hindering your application you can do a pre-employment psych exam, a MD psychiatrist will evaluate you and give you a clearance letter.
Lot of docs do it, can be pricey.

>>64901866
Thank you. I will keep that in mind

I'm a 19D in the National Guard and I've been given the opportunity to reclass into a 35 series MOS because my section is transferring over to a new company but I'm worried that I won't actually like intel and that it might not actually be a good fit for me.

>>64902019
What aspects of being a 19D do you like?

>>64892280
ETN1 Shitass here. Navy officers live life on the boat on Recruit difficulty, particularly those that have non-technical roles. Big stateroom, nice wardroom to eat in, push paper collect money, 2EZ. Also, the best Americans are typically Naval officers at some point
>Teddy Roosevelt
>JFK
>Neil Armstrong
>Nixon

>>64897428
This is actually very common. The sewage system (called CHT) is all interconnected and has a common drain near the stern of the ship below the waterline. It's stored in a tank with a hull valve so we don't spew sewage into foreign ports. Depending on who lives forward (nearer the bow) and above you, your head is more or less likely to flood. The root of the issue is when females live forward and up, they don't want to put their FHP (Female health products, their tampies and dirty pads) in the trash where it might sit for weeks, so they flush them. (side note, we burn most trash other than food. My berthing was below the incinerator. You always knew when they burned FHP, shit was disgusting). Believe it or not, tampons are made to absorb water. They expand, clog the drain, and eventually backup the system. Also, stupid, subhuman, room temp IQ airplane people airwing) notoriously don't care about the ship (they're only temp attached for a deployment). I've seen cans, apples, towels, and once a whole shoe floating in gray water in my berthing's head. Fuck airdales, actual fucking tourists.

If you are in the Navy/AF in a non-technical role, you are our version of a POG.

How long it takes to get security clearance?

>>64902019
11b to 35n reclass here, think we talked in another thread.
Intel, generally, involves a lot of sitting at a desk doing stuff on a computer. That's kinda how that cookie crumbles. That being said, the stuff you (can) do in intel is generally related to real-life operations with a real-world impact, whereas combat arms in peacetime can feel like a lot of practice but never actually playing ball. Your experience can vary greatly by MOS as well as by component (guard/reserve vs active) but my experience going from one to the other has been really rewarding so far, even if my daily duties are vastly different than what they used to be. I also have a lot of opportunities to use my experience and prior skill set to train and mentor people, including some at surprisingly high ranks.
Did you end up looking into the intel jobs available to you a bit more or deciding on one? I think you mentioned 35G, 35P, and 35M or something like that.

>>64902126
Heavily depends on your background.
For me it was a couple months tops. For others, especially those with foreign contacts, spouses with foreign citizenship, foreign investments, criminal history, or significant debt, I've heard horror stories of it taking up to a year or more.
You can ship with just an interim clearance (iirc) but if your stuff is still being adjudicated you can end up in limbo at your AIT location waiting for it.

>>64892043
https://pastebin.com/anMENMTD

I made a new Nuke Paste. If y'all want more info/edits, let me know and I can redo it.

t. ETN1 Shitass