Continuing a quesion I had last thread. Have any anons made their own composite stocks? I'm newish to resin but have all I need to make molds. I'm mostly bubble-free at this point in molds. Whether that changes if I switch to using urethane or tin cure silicone for molds we'll see; I've yet to try those but urethane seems to be the way to go for stiffer large molds. >>64926639Found some old carbon arrows I got from god only knows where. Thinnest and shortest seem to be the stiffest but you're right; they're still flexible over a long enough distance. Dense urethane foam with a fiberglass coat may be the best option yet.Previous: >>64876900
Found this last night. Not sure what kind of epoxy AllTerra is using but it's mixed with glass sphere plus carbon for the forend and then foam only in the butt. Surprised the wrist can take being that thin with a material transition as well. $800+ stocks according to their website. youtube.com/watch?v=y0wiyiBEPfU
I'm wanting to get my first gun, and while at the store I was seeing 1911 (45) for around $325. That sounded really affordable, and the 1911 is a cool gun.I checked all over Gunbroker and my local Rural King is cheaper than those even. But I an stingy and need to save money. Should I just get it now, or would there be an opportunity at a gun show to get one for like a hundred bucks or so cheaper? Is that realistic?
With tax stamps being $0 now, is there any reason not to SBR things if I don't plan on traveling with them?
>>64935530The type of epoxy matters little for strength. The most important thing is the type and amount of fillers. Even the best epoxy resin has shitty strength compared to the glass, carbon, or whatever other fiber is used. Resin is heavy and weak. The fiber is lightweight and strong. So. most important thing is to get the fiber:resin ratio as high as possible. Clamping and vacuum bagging is important because it gets rid of the excess resin.
>>64935755>The type of epoxy matters little for strengthI don't know if I'd say that but then again I need to re-read Smooth-On's material properties chart to know for sure; see the "printable versions" link. I swear that thing should be at the top of every page.https://www.smooth-on.com/charts/>Even the best epoxy resin has shitty strength compared to the glass, carbon, or whatever other fiber is used. Resin is heavy and weak. The fiber is lightweight and strong.Definitely found that out; it all likes to sag under heat or load and fiber reinforcement seems to prevent that to varying degrees. Also, note they're using at least one resin that has to be post-cured in an oven if I linked the video I think I did.
>>64935696Going on a government list.
I got this stoopid ass riser instead of grip tape in the mail. My shit ass micro red dot doesn’t fit on it. Does it need an adapter plate or something to fit stuff?
How long are Form 1s taking? Submitted mine 2/11. Not "Pending Research" and still not approved.
>>64935910Feds are known to already have an unconstitutional registry
>>64935961If you can find something that fits an Aimpoint Micro footprint. HOB might me super silly at that point>Its already silly
>>64935609>an opportunity at a gun show to get one for like a hundred bucks or so cheaper? Is that realistic?Not at all. Gunshows suck ass and havent had deals since the 2000s. At best you might find one for 299 but the price to get in/parking will cancel out the little you saved.
>>64935609>Should I just get it now, or would there be an opportunity at a gun show to get one for like a hundred bucks or so cheaper? Is that realistic?Find out if there is a gun buy back near you. Sit outside the police parking lot with a sign that says "I PAY MORE, IN CASH" and then let them bring their guns to you first to inspect. Find one you want/like and buy in accordance with local/state law. I've purchased no less than 8 guns this way. I got a WASR-10 that may have been fired 50-100 times for fucking $150 because the buyback was only offering $100.
Does Aguila make good range/plinking ammo? Lot of great deals on Ammoseek rn.
>>64936974What caliber? I like their 22LR but it is a little dirty and having lead-free primers it does smell a bit different. But between the price, accuracy, and relative reliability (at least for 22LR), there's a reason it's my go to for squirrel hunting. Range ammo is my plinking ammo; makes life super easy.
6.5 sneedmoor or .308 or black tail and black bear hunting?
>>64937124I own both 6.5 creed and 308 but use my 308 for hunting. My harvests are all under 300 yards and the 308 does the job easily.
>>64935696Pistol braces exist and you can travel all you want with them.
>>64937122>range ammo is my plinking ammoI meant my hunting ammo is also my plinking ammo, oops.
Are there literally any AK's ever where the semi auto position of the selector isn't the bottom one? I will be taking the exam for my gun permit soon and my instructor told me to make sure it's in the middle, semi auto position. I asked him why is it going to be the other way around than it usually is, cause I thought AK's basically always have semi on the bottom and full auto in the middle. He said he was pretty sure it was the middle position, but he admitted he might be wrong cause he usually trains military people and the military where I live doesn't use the AK anymore. I'm almost certain semi has got to be the bottom position, but exams terrify me and thus I don't wanna be uncertain about absolutely anything.
>>64937122 9mm
>>6493814799% sure bottom position is full auto, middle is semi
Tell me why I should not buy a Mossberg 590A1?and if not what shotty should I get instead?
>>64935609.45 is a very expensive caliber to start. Consider 9mm or 22lr unless it is like a dream gun.>>64937122It is extremely dirty.
My gut has finally settled on a howa or savage 223 bolt action after last thread.Still gonna wait to see if prices are different around the 4th of july or something>>64938147Bottom is full.
>>649381471. What the fuck?2. If it's an AK without full auto, then there's literally only one dimple a position where the gun will fire so this is a non issue. 3. Every single AK I know of has full auto in the middle, semi in the bottom. This one tidbit makes me think this instructor is talking out of his ass to impress you. >>64939746Then you're wrong, unless you pull out some weird obscure variant. The standard setup is full auto in the middle, first position off of safe. Remember that originally, doctrinally AKs were treated like SMG replacements. Full auto was supposed to be the primary use. That doctrine quickly changed, but the weapon had already been designed and it wasn't worth changing.
>>64939807
What does anon think of this purpose-made anti-drone weapon?
>>64939838>If it's an AK without full auto, then there's literally only one dimple a position where the gun will fire so this is a non issue.Yeah I'm training on a semi only one, but it was relevant because the ones on the exam will be police AK's, meaning they will have full auto. Obviously when the exam is getting a certain amount of hits on the target, you don't wanna accidentally put it on full auto and put all 10 shots right into the ceiling, which is why he mentioned it.
>>64940163Here's the full TM from the above image. You can read through it. Full auto is first position. I misread your original comment and thought the instructor was saying full auto was on the bottom, but no he is 100% correct it is first position. Semi auto is always on the bottom on either full auto or just semi guns. https://info.publicintelligence.net/USMC-AK47-OperatorsManual.pdfI have never heard of an AK any other way, including the production model AK-12.
Is the Ultimate Carry worth the extra money over the 642?
>>64940200>I misread your original comment and thought the instructor was saying full auto was on the bottom,He did, that's what I meant, hence my confusion. But like I said, he admitted he might be wrong cause he doesn't shoot AKs. >I have never heard of an AK any other way, including the production model AK-12.Me neither but I thought I'd rather make sure, cause knowing my luck it will turn out that every single AK has semi on the bottom, except for this one specific variant that the polish police uses for some unknown reason.
>>64940221Of course it's fucking Polish. Well let me slightly contract myself. If you're using certain models of Polish AK, the normal fire selector is just safe or fire. Firing mode is controlled by a lever on the left side, that one isn't up or down, but side to side. Make sure it's set to "C". If the AK isn't that dumb design and just has the normal sort of safety selctor, middle is auto, bottom is semi.
>>64940247Yeah I'm aware of that selector. I'm pretty sure it's gonna be a normal AKM but like I said, I just wanna make sure I'm ready for everything
>>64939861Interesting. My mistake. I've never shot an AK with marked full auto receiver but most of the ones I've shot are domestic and I don't remember how wbp and pioneer did them. Probably should have looked up to remember before posting.What is going on with that prc one?
>>64940357I mean consiering the chart thats like 99% of the time true that bottom is semi.
>>64936974>Does Aguila make good range/plinking ammo? Lot of great deals on Ammoseek rn.Their .22 and .45 is stinking, filthy, and covered in something that feels like Carnuba wax, but it's also one of the few ways to get buckets of cheap standard-velocity .22 ammo. IME the .22LR seems to have an uneven burn rate. Velocity bounces around by around 10% in a short barrel - we're talking a a range of a couple hundred FPS in a 6-incher - though it's more even in longer guns. That stank-ass primer seems to be more reliable than a lot of the American budget brands too. So yeah. Fine for plinking, especially if you want to be nice to an old beater gun with plastic or zinc parts. Or have to work in an unventilated range and don't want to be huffing lead all day.
>>64937124I'd go something bigger still for an animal that may actively hunt you. I use a creed myself and it hits hard but I'd hate to gut shot a black bear charging me
>>64940823Longer barrels normally smoothe out velocity differences in 22lr
>>64941327Yeah I wonder why such information is hard to find. Vibrate function is a clue
>>64939352I've had a few boxes of their 9mm as well as their 62gr 5.56 green tip. No complaints. Reliable, shoots as good as any other brand name bulk/range ammo.
i found a really cheap source of HDR rations and i was thinking of buying a few cases and sending out some of the rations out with the things i sell as freebies when i first start my business (it'd be like a $2 ration on a $300 order)am i likely to get fucked by the FDA or anything for it?
>>64941647>such information is hard to findnta but its really notits not like its illegal information, or even illegal to make if you have the right licensing, i think he's just making the wrong sort of google searches that make it sound like he's a terrorist or somethingtheres plenty of information you can find on probably even just wikipedia and other forums about how electric detonators and blasting caps worki thought about filling out a form 1 for a grenade and designing a fuse for it but ultimately decided my landlord would probably not enjoy me having an explosives magazine even if i had all the proper paperwork
>>64940823>IME the .22LR seems to have an uneven burn rate. Velocity bounces around by around 10% in a short barrelIs that the white/blue box ~1000-1200FPS stuff? That shit would be super some rounds, sub others through my silenced 18.5" 10/22 before they redesigned the box art and started building their second factory. No clue what it's like these days. Shame, too, because my Ruger MK hates it! Noses drag on the front edge of the mag and cause FTF via bullet nose friction slowing or stopping the follower, so there's no real good way to blow through it in some other gun.
Did cops used to carry tonfas because of the mcdojo fad?
Best aftermarket slides for a P320 compact?>inb4 kys filthy sigger Bought it for tree fiddy back in 2017 and I'm going to gunsoommaxx if I wanna
Theoretical setup for night shooting, with passive night aiming setup and a hands free way to switch to close quarters white light shooting: A CCO with a side flip PVS-14 tube, and then on top of the CCO a mini red dot. Sort of feels stupid, but with such a setup somebody could have the night vision pushed aside during the day and use the full sized CCO. At night outside the CCO+tube means aiming passively without having to mess around with trying to get goggles lined up. Then moving to indoors where you need speed and night vision will get blurry and wonky you just shift your head up to look through the micro dot. How retarded am I?
>>64940823Man I've had the opposite experience, I find Aguila to be one of the most reliable .22 brands across a wide range of guns velocity spread aside. Some of my guns are so retarded they choke on CCI SV, but Aguila goes fine in everything. It is stinky and smoky and gritty though, but compared to other super cheap bulk ammo it seems to me to be in another league. In particular Winchester and Federal's lowest tier products seem to be total CRAP nowadays, many failures of all types in many of my .22s. Even had a Winchester case rupture and explode in a gun. But their midrange .22 products seem alrightAlso on a related note, if you get the Aguila in 50 round tray boxes, it does not have that disgusting wax coating on it. Seems like only the loose pack stuff is waxed
>>64947863I don't know what a CCO is but I'm assuming it's a larger red dot or a prism scope. I hope you already bought night vision for your helmet because 99% of the time you're wandering around at night, you're NOT shooting at something. If you're putting anything on your gun, it's probably best to put on thermals and not night vision because some kind of night vision needs to be on your head anyway and the only realistic things you even have the gun for are all really warm. And if you need speed and goggles are fiddly, that's what lasers are for and that's why everyone has them....Or at least that's how it should be. I suspect a lot of people buy lasers and don't buy night vision first.
>>64947955This is assuming goggles yes. This isn't for me, this is a thought experiment about a military context moving from outdoor to indoor night shooting in complex terrain. I specifically mentioned a passive night aiming setup because lasers as active aiming solutions are something that's slowly becoming outdated as NV gets cheaper and used more among even poor militaries.
>>64947992Yeah, lasers do tend to give your position away...outside. If you're inside a building the enemy probably knows you're inside the building anyway, and you're going to be surrounded by walls that'll block the view of anyone who isn't a friend or someone you're just about to shoot. But if you still don't want to mess with that, or everyone else bought lasers so how do you know which one's yours, you could just use a thermal scope/clip on. Which will also keep working in the event that someone suddenly turns the lights on. Or, get good at passive aiming I guess, which basically means getting the biggest red dot/holosight you can and don't try to piggyback something on it and take your magnifier off when you're in the building. Although ideally, a military operation would probably just involve having several guys whose job it is to attack stuff outside of the building, and they'll stay out there while some other guys actually go in. And they can afford to carry only the stuff they need for their one job.
It's been over 15 years since I've purchased a gun and have never bought one online but have been eyeing a few deals. Do I need to contact the store I have it shipped to or can I just go there once they receive it to fill out the paperwork, do the background check?
>>64947912>I find Aguila to be one of the most reliable .22 brands across a wide range of guns velocity spread asideI mean I agree with you, see:>seems to be more reliable than a lot of the American budget brands tooHell, I've got an entire .30-cal can full of just their SV and HV .22. >>64948389> Do I need to contact the store I have it shipped toContacting them is just basic courtesy (and sanity). You're shipping an item worth hundreds of dollars to someone who can refuse to hand it over to you purely on vibes.
How hard is it to get a calico running (mostly) reliably? There's a shop near me that has an okay deal on a nice looking ones, plus some spare mags.I'd take advice and anecdotes about both 22lr and 9mm versions, specifically the m100 series.
>>64933822"The American army isn't actually that powerful"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwh6xbowC00"The American Navy isn't actually that powerful."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXeLfMO9q4c"The American Air Force isn't that powerful"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkDYrCCmUIA"Th... the.... the American.... military.... isn't .... uhm... isn't....the american military isn't.... uhm.... askcually.....um.... that..... er, eh, um.... they not that po......not that....not that powerful........
>>64948389They hate random guns turning up with a strangers name on it
>>64947912I had a Winchester case split in my 10/22. I was prone crawling over an earth dam so the sound echoed up to my face, it was really loud, much louder than firing a shotgun normally
>>64949633https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IDtenBMN0o
>>64946291Correct
>>64949633I thought only I remember this crap
>>64936216Be prepared to exercise patience, I'm about 46 days and running on mine, submitted 1/22.
Had a build question, I want to use a set of PRI .936 flip up front sight gas blocks for a bull barrel AR15 build and was wondering if that was possible in regards to sight height, if it is would I need the dpms or the armalite height? What exactly would I need to do to make that work?
>>64951130this is one of those things where you have to measure your actual gun. you said "gas block on a bullbarrel". this could be anything. it could be a normal height gas block rail or a lower one. the only one who knows is you.
>>64939875I feel like the ergonomics of a rocket launcher would suit it better.
Are there any negatives to steel case .223/5.56 I should know before buying? My rifle has adjustable gas and I don't reload so those two points are fine with me.
>>64947863PVS-14s not recoil rated. Putting one on your rifle will destroy tube. Do research.
I am currently working on a MAC M-11/9 build, and I just got a complete bolt assembly in from FTF. Is there supposed to be this big of a gap between the ejector rod and the bolt surface? I think this it's supposed to be touching the hole (lel).What can be done to fix this, assuming it's not right?
Would the term kamikaze be frowned upon in modern Japan? Like the word itself, possibly even having a different phrase they would use referring to 'Divine Wind' to get around it but still call back to the concept borne out by their lucky breaks vs the mongol fleets.I doubt they look back on the whole Imperial Japan throwing planes at American ships for little gain proudly (except for maybe the "Jews Fear The Samurai" sort)
Thinking of grabbing a shotgun lads, should I grab a 1301 or a M4? Or should I spend half the price for a 590?
>>64957886590 all the way.
>>64957890Thanks, is that for cost reasons or do you prefer pumps?
>>64933822How are Mossberg Patriots? I’ve been wanting to buy a casual budget friendly bolt action. Not planning to do any hunting or major precision shooting, just want a fun bolt action for the range and general fun. Also, any other recommendations for reliable bolt actions in the $5-600 range? I already have a scope if needed.
>>64958086Savage Axis is just as good for cheaper and Ruger American is better for the same price
>>64958119I’ve also heavily considered Ruger as well. I like the green. Are they pretty solid? For some reason the pictures make the plastic look weak.
>>64958129Mine hasn't felt flimsy. There isn't a ton of difference between them, I prefer the tang safety and 3-lug bolt on the Ruger and they have a better consensus/fuddlore reputation. The mlok on the forend might be handy if you want to play around with a bipod
>>64958381That’s good to hear. I am a lowkey Ruger blowhard. I have several handguns from Ruger. And yeah I would like to through a bi pod on there some day.
>>64933822I want to get an over/under shotgun to shoot trap. Any recommendations?
>>64958612What's your budget? The Beretta Silver Pigeon and the Browning Citori are generally considered as the best entry level O/Us for serious clay shooting.
>>64958612>>64958666I've been on the lookout for a used jap shotgun. Miroku and a few other brands made them for winchester/weatherby/charles daly, and others. Back in like the 60s-80s.They look really nice for <$1000. Maybe its just the weeb in me.
>>64958824Miroku is a great option, they are the OEM for the Citori. Nikko is another Japanese maker that made solid O/Us. If you are willing to shop around for used guns then either of those are great budget options.
>>64939746>99% sure bottom position is full auto, middle is semiYou're 100% full of shit.
>>64958666I probably won't go that often, so not too much. $500-800 maybe?
>>64957919Well I do like pump-action, but it's also because parts and accessories for Mossbergs & Rem. 870s are often a lot cheaper.
>>64958612Buy a used trap gun off a boomer retiring from trap shooting
>>64958129Love me Ruger American gen 2, it's solid, but mine doesn't feed properly if the mag is full, and it's only a 3 shot mag in 6.5 creed. 1st gens had feed problems that were meant to be fixed. I've never tried fixing it thoughbeit
I need a clever solution to store a lone rifle in my trunk. Should I use a gun rack or something else? Doesn't need to be purty just secure to not have it fly around
>>64958086Pretty shit honestly. They are functoning but if anything else in the same price range was on the shelf you fucked up and could have done better.
>>64959737That’s a solid point. As a Virginian I’m just looking to add a shotgun to my safe before the gun grabbers find a way to ban them outright.
>>64959391For that budget I'd shop around for used guns. The only new O/U you're getting new for that price is Turkshit.
I have 2k set aside for gun related purchases this month, I’m debating adding a micro 9 and shotgun to my collection (I currently have a S&W bodyguard 2.0, a Gen 5 G19, an ltt 92 compact and a DD M4A1). I still want to throw a comp on the g19 and get a good optic for the AR like a acog+rmr. Should I prioritize grabbing those or pick up the new guns first?
Why is the Bong defence attache to the UAE named Sandy Sandilands? Is this where Australia gets it from?
>>64958086BackFire IIRC had some strange accuracy issues with it even after sending it back. Don't know his biases if any because I don't know enough about him. Just repeating what I've read about.
>>64960170Velcro on one side with a soft padded gun case that has the opposite? Removable if need be and protects the gun. Not sure how to secure the velcro; I hate self adhesive velcro like nothing else.
>>64961954Fire idea, but the weight of the battle rifle + box may be too much for the velcro to secure. Thank you for responding tho anon
>>64961984I'm thinking you need the "industrial" brand name Velcro. May need to replace every few years. Or if you have some structure with a hole through it in your trunk, you could attach straps that are double sided to your case. One side is soft, other is hooked. Loop those around the metal stamped structure of your trunk if you have it and it's secure with no damage to your trunk. Also as much as I shit talk the self adhesive stuff, it does seem to work well in vehicle use. Can't think where I've seen it, probably cop use shit like radios etc.Also, something to think about that I've been thinking about recently is if you get into an accident, especially if some retard rear ends you. It already sucks knowing you're going to need another $3k+ car but the $2k rifle(s) in the trunk, fuuuuuck. Keep that in mind when thinking about placement in the trunk itself. In the way back it's probably fucked. Sides can be iffy. Directly behind the back seat deep in the trunk, probably the best but limits trunk use and makes getting the rifle awkward especially for multiple day a week hunting. Trunk "roof" may be a good idea if you can find a way to secure it well. Rarely carpeted/covered as well and not a spot you see often if the fix is ugly as fuck. Might want to look at police shotgun racks for trunks IIRC. They're available surplus more than likely. Some lock.
Are there any guns currently produced like the G36/SL8 that are mostly made of polymer?
>>64962022I've built some serious assemblies with velcro before. Get the non-self-adhesive kind and secure it with VHB tape. So long as you clean the surfaces first that is incredibly strong. If in doubt use that to attach the velcro to kydex, then *sew* the velcro to the kydex; a leather sewing machine can do this. Then secure the kydex with bolts or screws.
>>64962022Brilliant stuff here anon, seriously.>Rear end accident crunches the rifleI was thinking of getting around that by having it further up in the trunk like you said the Roof of the trunk. If you know where the spare tire rests I'm pretty much putting it there. >Surplus cop racksI'm writing that down because that may be the perfect solution if not the industrial velcro>>64962205One issue I thought of is when I am trying to retrieve the rifle can I do so without much effort?
>>64962394>One issue I thought of is when I am trying to retrieve the rifle can I do so without much effort?That's entirely up to how much velcro you use. You could choose to make it pretty easy to get out, or you could make it stick like mad.
>>64962394>Brilliant stuff here anon, seriously.Ty anon; I have a lot of time in the car some days and I think about tips for hunting and car organization related to it/range trips a lot. I've started writing down everything that comes to mind in a massive list of tips and considerations. Going to be very long.>>64962394Consider a padded sleeve for the rifle of some kind and perhaps the loops can be attached to the car instead and doubled up snaps can hold the loops shut. Hard to describe but may work depending on orientation. Might only need to open the larger end and the barrel side may be able to swivel and simply pull out if it doesn't bind and twist. Not sure what your state's rifle transport storage laws are like.
Why should i choose a bolt action rifle over this bad boy?
>>64962672what are you planning to hunt with this ? if it's boar then stop thinking and go for it, for other games you should take a bolt action, lighter to carry around and will have less recoil for using the same ammo
>>64962678The BAR actually has less recoil. My 300Wm has the same recoil as my 308 bolt. Three pounds lighter too.
>>64962684neat, the semi autos i've tried weren't BAR, they had slightly more recoil than a bolt action rifles and also weighted more, to be honest they were old guns from the 80s/90s, so yeah, technology has surely improved to make them better.
>>64962693My BAR is a 1969 model. Technology has not changed very much.
>>64961659Yes. The Brits tend to prefer subtle and more deadpan humor, but they are natural shitposters, just like their Aussie offspring.
>>64962558Maybe I could repurpose the Sling points as a way to mount it?
With large caliber rounds like 20-30mm, what are they made of? Are the projectiles still lead like small arms munitions?
>>64962672No semi automatic rifle can ever match a bolt action in terms of cost to weight and accuracy. You can get a semi automatic rifle that'll shoot as well as a bolt, but it'll weigh a lot more and cost more. If it's almost as light as a bolt, it'll cost exponentially more and probably not shoot very well.Meanwhile, there isn't much reason to spend the extra money or carry the extra weight of a semi auto while hunting because you should be able to take most game with one shot in any case. Light weight and accuracy matter way more than rapid follow up shots and capacity. You don't want to spend a fortune either because the gun is going to get dragged around innawoods, through bushes, mud and over fences.Now if you are hunting hogs where they can charge you and it's more pest control than pure hunting sure, get a full on battle rifle and go nuts. But for deer, elk, etc. bolt actions are still king.>>64962054Kel-Tec. Pretty much their entire catalog.>>64961257The BG 2.0 is about as good as a carry gun can be so the micro 9 is redundant. A good optic for the AR is a good idea, although you don't necessarily have to go full Trijicon to get good results an ACOG is still brilliant if you can comfortably budget it. Shotguns aren't expensive. I'd skip the micro 9, get the optic and a Mossberg pump.>>64960170I'd have it in a case to protect the gun from other shit in the trunk flying around. How big is the gun? Does it fold? I've used tennis racket bags for some shorter/folding long guns before.>>64958612Don't cheap out with Turkshit. Go Italian and spend at least 1k. Turk O/Us eat firing pins like a fat kid eats crackers.
>>64962971Composition varies, owing to both who is making it and the purpose but both steel and aluminum are popular. Steel for rounds with HE more common, and aluminum for AP since they contain a heavier steel core kind of like old school WW2 AP anti-tank rounds. With as big as 20-30mm is normally you want more out of them than just a mundane FMJ bullet type composition.
>>64963023>No semi automatic rifle can ever match a bolt action in terms of cost to weight and accuracy. You can get a semi automatic rifle that'll shoot as well as a bolt, but it'll weigh a lot more and cost more. If it's almost as light as a bolt, it'll cost exponentially more and probably not shoot very well.this sounds wrong. im sure its true for the most part but there are no pistol caliber 9mm bolt actions. if it was true its always cheaper to make a boltaction then where are they? somebody should have been able to undercut a shitbox like a mac or tec. or come within a few hundred of hipoint.being pistol cal the accuracy difference that only shows up at extreme range is moot.
>>64962971>Are the projectiles still lead like small arms munitions?No.Once you get to .50 cal military rounds the cores are different. At its most basic the core is hardened steel and there's a gilding metal jacket over it, like .50 cal "ball". This is because using lead at that scale is too expensive and the steel provides limited ability to penetrate armored targets. Most of the ammo is fancier and there's tons of different types. Some contains explosive filler and some kind of fuse (impact, proximity, etc.) Others contain a special armor penetrator (tungsten, depleted uranium, etc.) in some kind of sabot. Some more exotic ammo has combinations of these things in them. But none of them are a plain lead bullet.
>>64963138The purpose of a 9mm pcc is larping as a submachine gun. There's no reason for a bolt-action one to exist.
>>64963417I maintain that 9mm PCCs are a viable option for home defense, particularly if you live in an apartment or neighborhood where you should be seriously concerned about overpenetration. You could just use a 9mm pistol, yes, but the third point of contact is nice.
>>64956928Some steel case has corrosive primers. The lacquer on them can get sticky around solvent vapors or in high temperature/humidity, and can also foul up chambers and mags if you get blow-by because they don't obturate as well as brass. One of my rifles was badly overgassed for a while and Wolf rounds were dinging the shell deflector on the way out. Otherwise it's just the usual issues with any dirt-cheap ammo, and none of the above are a critical problem. At least as long as you're cleaning your rifle regularly and not leaving mags/ammo to sit in the sun.
>>6496302321" full sized FAL no fold.
>>64933822Were riot shields common for law enforcement back in the 1960s and 70s? Google isn't really giving me a straight answer, and I'm having issues finding examples of the alleged heavier metal riot shields that existed prior to the big plastic ones.
>>64963633Thanks anon! none of that sounds too bad so I went ahead an ordered some.
>poorfag doon to be hunterwhich USED rifle do i buy, €400 max, no american trash tyhusqvarna 1900, tikka m65, or sako forester?
>>64963588>particularly if you live in an apartment or neighborhood where you should be seriously concerned about overpenetrationAnon, a basic bitch AR is a lower overpen risk than 9mm hollowpoints.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSP0uZ61QDoThat said, I do agree that a 9mm PCC would make a fine HD weapon, that's assuming we're talking about a semi-auto, not the bolt-action anon seems to be asking about.
I havent been to the range in 5 months. Magic 8 ball.. should I go to the range today? If dubs I must.
>>64965550Well you almost got quints, so I suppose that's close enough. You should go.>>64963982That's a smidge tricky to work with because it's long and has a pistol grip so you need a tall case as well. I'd look for a soft case that'll take it and then try to secure it to the top underside of the trunk with some straps. It would take some experimentation but it's a Cadillac so there should be tons of space to work with.>>64963138There used to be "Destroyer" bolt action PCCs from Spain in 9mm Largo, but it's not a common thing unless you consider 22lr to be a PCC as well. There isn't much reason to do it because with a pistol caliber you can just make it straight blowback which isn't any more expensive or complicated than bolt action. You don't have to engineer in locking, gas piston or delay systems like on a rifle caliber. Besides which pistol calibers aren't typically very precise so the potential accuracy advantage of a bolt action is meaningless. People would rather have a semi auto PCC.In any case it has nothing to do with the original question about hunting rifles in where a PCC would only be useful as a small game/varmint gun.>>64964386Depends a lot on what country and what rifles typically cost there, plus the condition of each rifle being considered and how effective the caliber it's chambered in is for what you intend to hunt. Plus of course how expensive/difficult to get ammo is for the caliber as well.Just going off brands alone all of those are good quality, but it does you no good if the barrel is burned out.
>>64962908Maybe with Magpul QDs? Even then I'd consider a padded sleeve. Shotgun rack will be your best bet I think if it doesn't get in the way.
>>64963138Not production but DeLisles are available if you're willing to reac a deac (or buy a stripped .410 Indian) and get a kit to make a pistol cal bolt action. The only 9mm bolt action that hasn't been mentioned I've seen is that anon's custom one. Don't have a pic though.
>>64965132I know what they say about samples of one, but I concede that this video casts serious doubt on my assertion. I guess if you're worried about overpenetration what you should really do is try and not shoot the guy until the space behind him is clear.
>>64964386Get something a little more modern if you can, they can handle better pressure
>>64962684Yes, bolts have more recoil than semis and of course lighter rifles have more recoil
>>64966811There has been a recently released FBI study as well.
>>64935696You need to tell the government where you keep your guns and can't let anyone else touch them (no not even your gf or wife or anything)
>>64933822bros, does anyone have the Journal of Forensic Sciences article "Fatal .45–70 Rifle Wounding of a Policeman Wearing a Bulletproof Vest"? I am referring to https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7097213 but I can't find a pdf for it. I read the article once (well, I'm pretty sure it was this one), and the gist of it was: >The only confirmed case for fatal back face deformation >Police officer wearing the equivalent of NIJ Level II vest >Gets hit by .45-70 >Surprisingly, the bullet does not penetrate the vest >Unsurprisingly, it results in 100 millimeters of back face deformation >Officer dies a pretty brutal death Thought I had it bookmarked. I know I didn't pay for it. On a similar note, what would be some brutal things to get shot with while wearing NIJ Level IV (I guess they're RF3 now) plates? Like 9mm would be laughable, 30mm would instakill you regardless of your armor, what's an awful middle ground that would leave you probably alive but kinda wishing you weren't?
>>64967318>>Surprisingly, the bullet does not penetrate the vestThat's not surprising at all. Unless this was some super-spicy Ruger-only handload .45-70 is not a very serious threat to armor. The average .45-70 load is a soft-pointed hunting bullet with pretty low velocity, and with that amount of backface deformation it sounds like it aaaaaaalmost penetrated.
Is there anything illegal about putting signs that say "DANGER LANDMINES" or "DANGER UNEXPLODED ORDINANCE" on your private property to deter thieves? I know it's illegal to actually place landmines or boobytrap things, but you can put a "TRESSPASERS WILL BE SHOT" sign and there's nothing wrong with that.
How do you start working on guns? I want to learn how to modify stuff like AR-15s and revolver internals.
>>64967318Does .50 BMG have too much ass on it to get stopped? I feel like I've heard of youtube shitters demonstrating Level IV plates stopping .50s, but I'm too lazy to double-check that. I figure even if it does stop it though, you're gonna feel that immediately, and then feel it even worse the next morning.
What kind of tool or backup melee weapon should someone in the 1960/70s fighting against and investigating supernatural monster and cults carry? Would something like a crash axe be ideal since it's relatively lightweight with the utility of hacking/prying into shit?Would such a character benefit from carrying an old timey .44 cap and ball revolver? The thought being that it would be easier to cast and pre-load cylinders with oddball material cartridges, like silver for werewolves, than it would be to reload actual metal cartridges with said oddball bullets. I'm not too familiar with the accessibility of the reloading scene back in those days.Obviously the assumption is that supernatural shit is actually real and this guy isn't a complete lunatic.
>>64968510>The thought being that it would be easier to cast and pre-load cylinders with oddball material cartridges, like silver for werewolves, than it would be to reload actual metal cartridges with said oddball bullets.Why do you think this? Shit would be almost exactly the same methods of loading. Maybe you could handwave it away with the cap and ball being enchanted or magic steel construction but the whole premise sounds stupid.
>>64968525Like I said, I don't know what the reloading scene was like back then. It's not like you could Amazon all the tooling right to your door, but AFAIK BP shit was always around. Also I was thinking that reloading tools would be a bit inconvenient to lug around if an op makes it impossible or inconvenient to roll on back to your workshop halfway through tracking the wendigo or whatever that you need the specialty bullets for.
>>64968532If your carrying around the molds to cast your own lead,silver,whatever bullet your carrying around enough shit to reload cartriges.Or it comes down to why didnt this moron just load more cartriges and bring them with
>>64968542>If your carrying around the molds to cast your own lead,silver,whatever bullet your carrying around enough shit to reload cartriges.Never would have thought that carrying around something the size of somewhat large pliers is the same as carring bullet pullers, presses, cleaning medium, etc.>Or it comes down to why didnt this moron just load more cartriges and bring them withSo it would be his fault that he didn't know he needed a bullet composed of the ground up bones from a ghost's physical corpse to kill it before he even began his investigation?
If a pistol can be turned into an SBR with a chassis system and stock, can it be turned into a normal rifle if you used a 16" barrel?
>>64968555I dont think your understanding how similar loading a cap and ball vs a cartridge is. Making a bullet same steps. Pour powder into a metal cylinder, Push a bullet into that cylinder. The guy isnt handmaking powder primers or caps. hes buying all that shit in the same exact gunstore. You cant say oh blackpowder is more common and caps are everywhere if its the fucking 60s-70s. He would get the either items at the same specializedstore. its not like hes going to walk into ye old western general store and they only have barrels or blackpowder and no modern stuff.Then your thinking of a huge multi stage bench mounted press when shit like this exists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV1CWDENqjcIf your that mad that your premise is getting picked apart make it less detailed. If its vague its better vs being definitively wrong.
>>64967689I believe you'd have better legal protection if the signs were accurate. It goes from a false bomb threat to a legitimately life saving piece of safety equipment
>>64967318Apparently 17hmr pierces level III plate. Speed plus being thin, it sneaks through
>>64968510John Dies at the End style?What about a lead pipe dipped in silver or something
>>64968588>I dont think your understanding how similar loading a cap and ball vs a cartridge isNo shit the concept is similar. The big difference that stood out in this scenario is that cap and ball is almost completely self contained in the gun, only needing the bullet mold and maybe a powder measure.>if its the fucking 60s-70sRemember when I said I have basically no idea where reloading was at during that time? Tools to reload ammunition seem a hell of a lot more specialized than powder and caps imo, and if reloading wasn't very accessible to your average consumer then caps/powder would have more than likely been easier to acquire.>Then your thinking of a huge multi stage bench mounted press when shit like this existsYou know what would have been so much easier? If you simply said small scale stuff exists from the start. If you google up reloading hobby stuff, every "reloading for dummies" talks about bench-mounted presses and shit. I've heard of hammer-style bullet pullers in the past, but I've never heard of compact methods for bullet creation as opposed to deconstruction. Thank you for finally giving my question an answer beyond "lmao retard".>>64968609>John Dies at the End style?Not sure what that is, but I was coming from a sort of Supernatural/X-Files vibe.>pipeI'm not saying that wouldn't work, but I was hoping for something that could provide utility outside of just being a weapon. Like a crowbar dipped in silver instead of a pipe
>>64968633Man your books going to blow if this is your reaction to constructive criticism.
>>64968643RPG character, not a book.
>>64968633>If you google up reloading hobby stuff, every "reloading for dummies" talksThis is a "you" problem. Google is fucking awful for research. You need to read a book on the subject. I suggest picrel. It's the most fundamental book on revolvers there is, and it also covers handloading, including how people handloaded cartridges back in the day.Anyway, we need to back up, the question you asked in >>64968510 was never properly answered. The real answer is that you need to pick this guy's weapons as part of his character design. What sort of background does this character have? If he's a classic 'old explorer' type then he would have a Safari-type double rifle. If your story has a strong religious bent then perhaps he has some old custom piece from the Vatican vaults with all sorts of holy engravings or whatnot on it. If this guy is ex-military then perhaps he's got some fun Army surp from Korea or whatever stored away. If he's meant to be a high-tech operator type then perhaps he's got the latest and greatest tacticool stuff from that era. If he's got old money then maybe there's some fine hunting guns in the gun cabinet.The same thing would apply for melee weapons. Think your character's background and what image you're trying to give off. Are they some snooty artistocrat type that learned Fencing in college? Some psycho that plays with knives? Maybe they don't care a whole lot and carry their old boy scout camping hatchet because that just werks? Maybe they have contacts with NASA and someone got him a prototype astronaut's escape weapon?>Would such a character benefit from carrying an old timey .44 cap and ball revolver?If they're some old mountain man type character, sure. Otherwise, hell no.>The thought being that it would be easier to cast and pre-load cylindersIt's much easier, and faster, to carry loaded magazines for a semi or speedloaders/speed strips for a revolver. Swapping cylinders is not fast or convenient.
>>64968586Well, the ATF isn't going to be bothering you if you put a stock on it once you make the barrel longer, just make sure you get rid of the old barrel afterwards. Note that it does NOT work the other way around, if a receiver was transferred to you as a rifle, then as far as the ATF is concerned, it stays a rifle even if you removed the stock and put a short barrel on it and thus requires the paperwork, because "pistol" and "rifle" are supposed to be about how the device was intended to be used, and almost any rifle can be cut down with ease to be something concealable and not shouldered, but most handguns require a lot of effort to be made longer and shouldered (and, unless it's an AR pistol, anyone who does that probably isn't causing trouble).
G9 External Hollow Point 80gr or Underwood Xtreme Defender 90gr? Xtreme 68gr? For either should I go with +p or standard? Will be shooting from a Kahr PM9 and a M&P 9 2.0 compact. Pic not related.
>>64962054There's also things like the VHS/Hellion and the Tavor. Bullpups tend to go heavy on the clamshell polymer construction out of convenience for manufacturing.
Are deer actually hard to kill? I see a bunch of (usually older) people saying you need a full power rifle round minimum to take down a fucking whitetail. Wouldn't a 9mm from inside 35 yards into the heart/lungs be effective as well?
>>64970812Theres a difference between drops right where you shot it and bleeds out 15 minutes later after sprinting down a hill in an impossible to reach location.You want an ethical kill.
Beretta 1301 or Benelli M4?
>>64970812you can kill a deer with a .22 the idea behind using larger bullets is so you drop it and it doesn't suffer and also don't need to use follow up shots and ruin your meat>>64970887as this guy points out
>>64971402I have a 1301 (m2) it's my favourite gunthat being said the m4 is combat proven and approved and is a great gun as wellI feel like it comes down to preference, 1301 barrels are expensive if you shoot lots and you're going to burn it out but otherwise both guns are super solid and I haven't heard much bad about either of them
>>64971437Thanks anon, do you prefer your 1301 over pump guns?
>>64971483I'll preface this by saying I'm a huge semi-auto shotgun shill but yea I certainly do, rifles are fun but a auto shotty gives you a really nice kick you need to control and compared to a pump you can just rain hatred. If you run a semi shotty hard the consistent reloading tickles my mechanical autism tooit's just a really satisfying gun to run the only thing I don't like is the cost of shells lolside tangent: I first got into them after looking into miami dade a lot and seeing paul harrels rundown where the cop who was wounded would have had to pump one-handed, compared to being able to just keep blasting if he had a semi
Did shotguns ever have grenade adapters like rifles used to have blank-operated grenade launchers? Seems like you could get good functionality with spicy blank shells.
>>64972094No, and it sounds like a really dumb idea. Shotguns run at much lower pressures than rifles, using them to launch grenades sounds like a recipe for a burst barrel.> Seems like you could get good functionality with spicy blank shells.Sounds like nonsense. Show your math.
>>64972506>Show your mathBigger shell = more powder = more boom
>>64933822About upgrading/trading/changing your guns, do you sell old first and then buy new, or buy new first and sell old then ? Let's say you need the money, but not so much. 50-50. Let's say psychology comes first. What do you do ?
Does anybody have one of these and/or tried chopping the thing down? I like it but I think a 16” barrel on a PCC is kind of nuts, the best way to use this in my head is to get rid of the hand guard and chop the barrel down (or maybe keep the hand guard and run a suppressor under it). I think this would be a much better selling gun if ruger sold it stockless/braced with a shorter barrel from the factory, and especially strange that it doesn’t come in 9mm.
>>64972843>remove hanguard entirely>just use top and bottom rail to attach light/optics>bring to gunsmif to cut barrel down like 8” and rethread it Now the issue is I see the bolt feeds from the pistol grip (because that’s where the mag is), but the charging handle is pretty much flush with the end of the receiver. So attaching any lights to that spot would be difficult.
>>64972745if you spend money you don't have before you sell, you'll arrive to the transaction in a more desperate situation, probably giving you a loss in the end resultyou'll need to fight the FOMO that screams BUY THAT SHIT NOW, sell at your own pace for the money you think is right and then proceed with your purchase if you want to do it right
>>64972851Upon further research I have discovered the charging handle can be swapped to the right side and the barrel does in fact like 8” long under the receiver before the hand guard starts. >take the hand guard off>bring to gunsmith to cut the barrel flush with the receiver and rethread for 1/2x28>file form 1 for it now that it’s $0>suppress>have created MPoor7.
>>64936623On the other hand. If you are interested in the gun show in general, ie you want to go and see a bunch of guns and such, then the $300 1911 would just be a bonus
>>64970812The redpill is that you'll miss the vital zone more often than you'll think. The perfect 35 yard shot suddenly becomes a 50yd running shot but you still fire because you get bloodlust
>>64968633You definitely need to read John Dies at the End, if anything so you can not be accused of copying it
>>64972745If you have the option to buy the new gun before selling the old, always do that. You never know if the new gun will have some sort of problem or is disappointing, but the gun it replaced is already sold and you suddenly miss it. Been there done that.It is also better to sell a gun at a slow pace rather than needing to sell it quickly. You'll usually get a better deal or trade if you give yourself time.If it needs to be a quick sale it'll usually be one for very little money.>>64972094I've never heard of them being used to launch grenades but they do frequently get used to launch lines between ships.>>64967831Start with easy things. ARs are like Legos. Revolvers are more like mechanical watches.
>>64933822Is there anyway to make shoelaces more slippery, so they are more convenient to tie?I thought I heard about rubbing them in beeswax or a paraffin candle, but when I tried the latter, nothing really changed.I guess, I imagined that.Now they're really flakey and sticky :(
For 2 magazines taped together, why have the second one inverted? Wouldn't that mean whenever you're prone etc that you shoving dirt into the inverted magazine feed lips so causing malfunctions? Why not have the second mag upright?
>>64974007If they're oriented the same, you'd need a spacer.Then the stack is thicker and probably not as strong.
>>64974007>why have the second one invertedIt avoids needing a spacer to fit between the two mags.
>>64974007theres this thing called a magwell. if you taped 2 mags directly together facing up it wouldnt fit in the gun.now you could get around this with a spacer but if your some random guy who only has 2 mags and tape you do what you need to do. the spacer also adds thickness.
>>64974007its possible the gun would become unwieldy or imposible to use with both mags facing up even with a spacer. like a mac10 or glock if both are up then you cant hold it comfortably.or it might block something like a bolt handle.how you tape mags depends on what you have and what gun you have.
>>64974021>>64974023>>64974025thanks
Is the Aimpoint Micro better than the Trijicon MRO and if so why
>>64974170The MROs tend to have this weird parallax thing. No all production runs are like this, but there is some difficulty in keeping that under control with their two different sized lenses. Other than that, well, just compare the specs. My question is, tacswap.com changed their UI a bit and now you can't search within states anymore. Is there a way to get that functionality back?
bought my first rifle , FN15 Patrol Carbine M-Lok and cheap red dotwhat are cheap recommended grip and sling? is a light needed? if so im definitely not getting a pressure pad or wire guides and generally dont want to overspend since im not a tacticool bloodthirsty boomer. just want to have half a chance when SHTF.
>>64974712I always recommend Magpul's slings. I don't even like plastic mags (their main product) but I cant say I don't like their stocks and especially slings. Product MAG513, Magpul MS1. Not the MS4 QDM (MAG953) because you don't have QD cups on your rifle and it's twice the cost. I've used both, the MS1 will be fine. You might not like the rear sling loop position if you hunt with that rifle or take it on long hikes but that's just my preference. Any of Magpul's stocks would fix sling placement but you might be able to use the slot cut in your stock instead and make it carry nicer.https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/873750009230
>>64962678>lighter to carry around>less recoilthat is the opposite of how guns workevery bolt action i've shot has kicked way harder than the semi auto equivalent
>>64935609Under 400 for a 1911 is pretty good. But at that price point I'd get only Tisas or Rock Island, preferably tisas.
>>64973901It's not even hard to tie your shoes nigga
>>64974712Aliexpress unironically has good quality slings also torches etc
Wyoming anons, where (near Cheyenne) can I test-fire a .22LR FRT rifle? Are there gun ranges that are ok with it, or do I have to find BLM land?I've found state-owned land which is "unrestricted" on the state public-lands map, 22 miles north of Cheyenne just off I-25; can I just drive out there and start blasting away at the scenery?Alternately, does anyone know the range on Otto Road? Do they allow FRT usage there?
>>64973901>s there anyway to make shoelaces more slippery, so they are more convenient to tie?>I thought I heard about rubbing them in beeswax or a paraffin candle, but when I tried the latter, nothing really changed.First off, you need to heat up the laces so the wax soaks in. Just wiping it on the lace doesn't do much.Secondly, you do that to waterproof the laces so they're easier to untie, not make them easier to tie. They'll be stickier on hot days. But if you're out in the soaking wet the knot won't shrink up and be impossible to take apart without a fid. Slippery laces = bad, the knot can work itself apart while you're marching.
can somebody webm? I'm too lamehttps://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/2033935143199527034
>>64982346nevermind pol did already
>>64982353so what was this idiot trying to do? go out on his own terms?
I'm poorfag but I want to go to the range to train accuracy. Can this be accomplished with .22lr + a dedicated .22lr pistol/rifle or should I stick to a realistic caliber to work on recoil control and such? Any pistol/rifle recs?
If I had a 11.5" AR pistol, and threw a folding apparatus on my pistol brace. Would my dog be safe? Is a folding brace OK?
>>64984287Most of my practice has been with 22LR. I can't say I'm the best shooter but I'm decent and can shoot out to 300 with a scope. Slacked a lot and definitely had longer breaks between trips more than I wanted at times but I'm at a comfortable skill level now. Especially with ammo creeping up in price I'd go with 22LR. We're talking 3-7 cents a round vs at the very least like 17-23cpr for 9mm or 22WMR. If you do stock up on 22LR, make sure your gun(s) like what you're buying before you get a ton of it; my Ruger MK hates 40gr LRN despite feeding 38gr HP from the same maker. Nose drags against the front of the mag and slows everything down. Hell if you get real desperate for ammo, air rifles aren't a bad choice either, but frankly I'd recommend a break barrel at minimum, which also means a scope or dot on top of buying a decent airgun. I actually started out shooting those long ago as a much younger poorfag as the price of a pellet is much much lower (like 0.5-2CPR). I also think a Red Ryder can unironically teach a lot about drop over short distance, too, even at home. BBs bounce like a motherfucker, though, so soft targets only!Back to 22LR, a Ruger MK IV or whatever and a 10/22 could absolutely hone your skills. That's more or less how I practice; I can't afford a steady diet of 37+ CPR 5.56 or other ammo and I'm already accustomed to shooting at least 200rds a trip. I've learned accounting for drop with 22LR as well and seeing the drop of a 22LR vs any other caliber is hilarious. With anything else it's basically nothing having learned on a round that drops like a brick. Having some 22s isn't a bad idea between potential for shortages and even just so you can shoot more at the range for the same cost or less. The most expensive part is when you want to customize your 22s or buy more mags, honestly. Everything else is cheap.(cont.)
>>64984287>recoil controlYou can kinda learn this but yeah especially for pistol you might need to actually get a 9mm or something to improve past a certain point. I have full size and small 22 handguns; none really recoil much. The Ruger MK has a little bit of muzzle climb when it twists in your hands. That's really it. Not saying it won't improve your handgun skills; it definitely will as I used to fucking SUCK shooting handguns (still kinda do) but it won't give you the recoil to handle like a compact 9mm or something. Your groups will absolutely improve, though. I also like to swap back to a 22 when I feel I'm anticipating recoil of a rifle and throwing my shots for whatever reason. Instead of letting it get in my head, I swap to 22LR, shoot a mag or two, and go back to whatever I was shooting instead of letting the shitty groups annoy me and continue to shoot like shit with ammo at like 6 times the cost.>gun recommendationsWell, my recommendations for 10/22s are all fucked up with the new models coming out replacing the old ones (and a lot of them not even being out) but the 10/22 model 32000 is a good choice. Comes standard with a BX trigger now, hole drilled in the rear of the receiver to make barrel cleaning easier, threaded barrel with irons standard, factory auto bolt release mod (only have to fiddle to set it, pull charging handle back a hair to release bolt), and a couple other things. About $250 which is only like $25 above what the wood stock 1102 carbines were going for before. If you want wood, worry about that later. Easy to swap and huge aftermarket and used parts availability. Hard to recommend used as I never see used 10/22s and when I do they're basically going for market price of a new 32000. Why even bother?https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/736676320004Can't really give a MK IV model recommendation as I don't know what models even exist.
>>64984424>>64984470Thank you for the advice. It's mostly my grouping that I need to work on. I think I'll be getting a 10/22 and I'll look into the mk iv also.
>>64984564YW. Also get BX-15s; the 10rd rotary mags are just a bitch with the paddle mag release. Oh, that's the other thing, they added side cuts in the newer model stocks so you can strip 10rd mags easier. I think it looks weird and none of my 10/22s will have that stock but at least they're trying SOMETHING since all 10/22s ship with 10rd mags anyways. The BX-15s need to be cleaned on a reasonable schedule but they're not that bad. Just get like 5 of them. Metal can be cleaned with steel wool. Plastic I try to keep to popsicle stick scrapers to prevent scratches. The spring, I extend and wipe with Hoppe's on a paper towel, just enough to pull the unburnt powder off. Ditto Hoppe's on the top feed block. At least I'm not having to wind rotary mag springs unlike in 10rd mags.As for the rifle, the thing that needs the most cleaning is the recoil spring/guide rod assembly. Some kind of brush with a small container to catch splash works best for cleaning. Be sure to move the bolt handle and get in front and behind it on the rod as you can get some buildup. Next thing that gets gunked up is the face of the barrel and the surrounding part of the receiver which can be scraped even when the gun is assembled with the bolt locked back; get creative with popsicle sticks and cut some into different shapes. The bolt face also gets dirty. If you shoot silenced, the trigger group gets gritty under a thousand rounds. You can brush it out without full disassembly of the trigger group but it needs it every now and then. If shooting silenced I also recommend the Volquartsen soft buffer. Might as well for the price and you're already going for quiet anyways. Buffer noise becomes one of the noticeably loud parts of the gun after silencing.
bros, I recently learned that .308 (and therefore 7.62x51mm NATO) and 7.62x39 are not the same thing. I don't actually have a question, I just felt like I should post my retardation somewhere. Actually, you guys might have some questions for me, allow me to answer them: >Why did you think that? I'm not sure. I guess I just thought about 7.62 and nothing besides that. >How did you learn you were wrong? My cousin sent me a video of a dude shooting a .308 rifle, and I was like wait those cases look bigger than 7.62, and he was like yeah, bigger than 7.62 AK shit, not 7.62 NATO, and I was like wait what? and looked it up. >Why did you think NATO and the Soviet Union would be using the same ammo? I have no idea. I don't think I ever thought about it. >Are you retarded? My IQ has never been tested, but I did fail trigonometry in high school. Thank you for reading my blog post.
>>64985950It's easy to misunderstand cartridge nomenclature because it's so damn inconsistent. You really have to think of the different things more as names rather than numbers because sometimes the numbers don't really mean what they imply. For example:.38 Special uses .357 diameter bullets, just like .357 Magnum does..44 Magnum is actually a lie; its bullets measure .429" despite the name..480 Ruger sounds big and badass, but it's actually marketing wankery; that cartridge is a shorter, weaker version of .475 Linebaugh and really ought to be called ".475 Special" but .480 sounds better so they used that instead.Even when the number in a cartridge name is an accurate measurement there is still room for confusion because some cartridges use the groove diameter of the barrel while others use the land diameter. For example people call .308 a "30 cal" The land diameter is .300, the bullet diameter is the .308. Same thing, just different ways of naming it.
>>64985950You ever hear anyonr call it "7.62 Soviet"? Or 7.62 "Soviet Kurz"? Forget what a guy called it once and I had to take a minute. Maybe it was "7.62 Soviet Short" or something like that; either way, the guy was taking about 7.62x39. That was a first.
How much would you fellas be willing to spend on this? There's a bubba'd 1898 Krag on GunBroker I kinda want to restore. The barrel is cut to 17'' with the front sight welded on, and the muzzle-end painted black. The stock's been painted black too, with previous damage covered by wood-filler. What gets me is the barrel and stock are bound with fucking electrical tape.I offered to buy it for $225 but no dice.
>>64988287x39 is commonly called Soviet.
I like my mineral grit grip tape, but I really don't like how glittery it is. Is it possible for me to give it a more matte look with like an oil paint marker or something? Would I need to seal it somehow after?
How bad will this guy's self-inflicted injuries be when he fires?
>>64988525It will cost you more than an unaltered M1898 to restore that to military trim.
>>64989975A thin coat of picrel should do the job. No need to seal anything, just focus on leaving a very thin coat. You want just enough to take the gloss off. Too much and it will start to smooth over the grippy texture.
>>64990464forgot pic like tard
>>64989975Look at actual sandpaper and see if you can find peel and stick in a different kind of grit. Aluminum oxide, garnet, whatever. I've seen black, grey tigerstripe, green, blue, purple, brown, and all other kinds of colors and sheens of sandpaper. And a wide variety of grits that also change the look. Or just cut some to size using your tape as a template and super 77 the motherfucker to your gun. Probably best if it's not a polymer frame for later removal. Not sure how Super 77 or its variants react with different plastics over time though; may need a different adhesive.
>>64990839If you want to use actual sandpaper I'd suggest you look at sanding belts and then cut your grip pieces out of those. Belts have a cloth backing which is much more durable than paper. But yeah, there's tons of different colors out there since different brands want to make their product stand out. Also check out grip tape for skateboards, that comes in tons of different colors and also different graphics.>>64990093Lol. Reminds me of one Gundam movie (F91, I think?) where some random civvie gets killed by a falling shell casing from a friendly defending unit.
Incredibly ignorant question but do sailors/seamen/navy people die/get injured during operations?I assume it's pretty safe on a big aircraft carrier, compared to the ground troops who are more exposed to attack.Are the casualties concentrated in the smaller vessels?
>>64991949either you never get attacked and all injuries were accidents that happened on boat or the americans sink your boat and everyone dies.
>>64992195And what about american sailors?
Can you make a shotgun that will not blow up out of pic rel?
>>64993286yeh. part of why its possible even though the psi doesnt line up is that its still oversized compared to a 12g shell. the enerygy is wasted expanding the shell.its like a cup you will never be able to make a cup explode from overfilling it with water. its just going to spill out the top. if you had an air tight container and you kept shoving water into it it would explode but black iron isnt a perfect seal.
How did 2011s become so popular as race/comp guns? Is it just the Staccato marketing?
>>64993346theyve been the meta for over 2 decades staccato made them affordable for the poor
>>64991949>>64992434>Incredibly ignorant question but do sailors/seamen/navy people die/get injured during operations?>I assume it's pretty safe on a big aircraft carrier, compared to the ground troops who are more exposed to attack.Unless it kills someone or totals a plane, injuries underway rarely make the news. The other thing is that carriers have the population of a decent-sized town, and almost everyone's working their ass off on very little sleep in a remarkably dangerous environment.Carriers are launching and recovering multiple times every day, including an entire helicopter squadron. In high-tempo launch ops we're simultaneously firing or resetting four catapults every few minutes. There's a galley, massive hot-melt trash compactor, and massive laundry room downstairs. All of those are manned by people who are either too stupid to even make the deck division, fuckups, and prisoners on hard labor detail. We're also moving dozens to hundreds of tons of ordnance around deck, towing planes, working with high-energy electrical systems, all that shit plus the general hazards of just being on a tiny-ass piece of metal in the middle of a truly unbelievably gigantic amount of water.So yeah. People get hurt all the time, crippled every so often, and occasionally die even without enemy action. >>649933461911s have been popular race guns ever since the sport started. 2011 development was specifically triggered by competitive shooters and they're finally cheap enough for any random schmoe to rice out. That's pretty much it.
I CC a .380 LPC and a Albanian Type 54 Tok in rural Maine, do i need more than that?
>>64993746yeah
>>64982362I've read that he had a blank chambered, he didn't really understand that racking the slide would also cycle in a live round. He had live rounds in the mag knowing people would notice blanks in there
>>64993746Carry a snub nose 38 because they look cool. People act differently when you pull one of them out vs a ladies gun
>>64993377I see, thanks. When you put it that way, it sounds like an aircraft carrier is like a factory, which certainly do have tons of hazards.
>>64993944Even if he didn't misunderstand how racking the slide works that would still have been stupid as fuck. A blank could easily have killed him if it was fired in contact with his chest.
>>649933461911's have been popular race guns since before your father was born because they have excellent triggers. The low capacity was their only downside. High-capacity 1911's were created by race gun companies first. Staccato is marketing cheaper versions to general enthusiasts, carry fags, etc.
Is the correct sight picture for a smoothbore musket the same as with bead sights on a shotgun?Probably a stupid question, but all my black powder knowledge is theoretical and I can't find any relevant images online (also ignore the shitty placeholder model: I swear I've got a better one in the works)
>>64933822Hey I've been living in a cult off-grid and without guns for like 15 years and got kicked out so I guess I'm back into guns now.Have there been any new, good, .45 ACP handguns released?
>>64993952Seconding this, I also live in Maine and carry a .38 snubbie
>>64993952...What qualifies as a ladies gun to you? Literally everyone woman I have ever known who has carried has carried a .38 revolver in a purse. 100% of them.
>>64996809a stylish sleek little fashion statement
>>64996815...like a .38 revolver?
>>64994660I think it wouldn't penetrate far but would give a nasty surface wound. However he clearly wouldn't know that if he didn't know the basic functions of a semi auto
>>64996819Yes but that's mens fashion so wouldn't count as a ladies gun
>>64996825idk man whenever I see a .38 snubnose I just think of the 80 year old Austrian lady I worked with who carried one, "because of all them niggers coming here after dark."
>>64996827Yeah well that's the thing, she fucking meant it, she probably sat on her deathbed and regretted never killing niggers
>>64996832>she probably sat on her deathbed and regretted never killing niggersShe did not have that regret.She also only carried a revolver because she couldn't rack a pistol slide.
>>64996843That's smart, I see highly trained and experienced police malfunction Glocks all the time. Can't expect an 80 year old lady to always get it right in the dark. More women should be like her
Does anyone know of a gun safe that isn't really a safe but requires the user to be awake and conscious to open it?I want to start sleeping with a gun within reach because I live alone.But I keep fearing that I might use it in my sleep.Is this a real concern? Because I think about it a lot.
>>64996953Valid concern, people do occasionally shoot someone getting a midnight snack. Get a combination safe
>>64996953put it in a holster with some kind of simple retainer and you can wake up with it pointed at your face but you won't be able to pull the trigger, easy
>>64996821>I think it wouldn't penetrate far but would give a nasty surface wound.Tell that to Brandon Lee (yes, I know the blank knocked loose a bore obstruction, but blanks also frequently frag in the chamber and he hadn't cleared the gun). Even with a blank functioning correctly, that location was begging for an embolism even if he didn't hit anything vital.>>64995162Sort of, but you've got a lot more drop than a shotgun. Especially a modern one. >>64996843My mom and sister carry revolvers because of busted wrists as well
Can anyone post a better resolution version of the pic rel stalker challenge?
How the heck do you buy stuff on tacswap? Like do you click this button so you can message a seller? ...and for that matter what does the "upload" looking button do, on either seller of listing pages? Like I click it and nothing happens.
>>64997015>but you've got a lot more drop than a shotgun.That depends on what caliber anon is talking about. If it's something like a Brown Bess or a Charleville those have about the same ballistics as a shotgun slug--similar velocity, mass, and caliber.
>>64998808Nevermind, I figured it out.
Ive got a few, I recently got a winchester 12gauge, 50s ish, and I have no use for it. How do I determine value, and sell it legally?Additionally, I have a .22 that was previously owned by the city, its a pos, but is not registered to anyone, Im unsure how firearm registration works desu, but i would like to give this one away to a buddy as a varmint rifle.
>>65000309With a question like that, anon, you really gotta specify state. And/or country.
>>65000312Colorado, USA
>>64997015>Sort of, but you've got a lot more drop than a shotgun.Late but thanks for the response; should the barrel be angled upwards more (relative to the user's view anyway) to accommodate for this at slightly longer distances, or is it still correct to just aim down it as pictured?>>64998949>That depends on what caliber anon is talking about. If it's something like a Brown Bess or a Charleville those have about the same ballistics as a shotgun slugthe placeholder gun's dimensions are based specifically on the first model land pattern musket/brown bess, although I'm asking about this more in general than concerning that gun in particular
>>65000317Wow if the NRA is correct, how exceedingly gay. No licensing, but:>Subject to limited exceptions, background checks are required of all private transfers.https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/colorado/
>>65001400Basically yes, just aim the gun at it and you'll need to aim higher at long range. The question is "how much" and "when". Remember that a smoothbore musket without sights is your classic "minute-of-torso" gun. Plus, black powder guns are sensitive to your powder load, how tightly you wad them, fouling, and your follow-through on the shot. Especially flintlocks. You have to hold it steadily on-target for the better part of a second while most modern guns need a fraction of that. Don't overthink it too much, trust your reflexes. Find a load that's comfortable to shoot and work out where it puts the balls at the ranges you want to use it for. Or, like the other anon says, if you have a cylinder-choked shotgun already then get some heavy slugs in it and practice aiming it without the sights. It'll be close enough that it'll help you dial in your form without having to spend a minute between shots ruining your concentration.TL:DR black powder is a finicky bitch and you'll need to put rounds on target to work out how yours shoots.
>>64996809My xgf had a .380 semiauto of some sort. I don't remember the brand, but it was some weird foreign one.
>>65007540NTA but Taurus? Beretta isn't really weird having been around 500 years (see: 84 Cheetah). Or are we talking some unknown Turkish brand or surplus?
>>65010115>WyoNo, not Taurus, they're pretty common. Not Bersa. Not Star. It wasn't a junk gun, it was well made, but I'd never heard of the brand before or since.
Have any big youtubers made a review on this thing? Very interested in buying one, it just another ACOG. >Apex Optics Vapor 1-4x prism
>>65012114Or just anothrr**
Cleaning question: I have a couple guns that I fired on the scale of years ago that have some fouling I can't seem to clean out. Their bores are shiny after my cleaning runs, but their barrels are noticeably dark instead of a shiny steel.I've been running wipe out through them (sitting overnight multiple times) and aint getting any noticeable changes on the patches. Am I retarded (other than for not cleaning them initially) and this is normal, or is wipe out hopeless on fouling like this? If so, is there anything else I can use other than borefucking them for literal hours of my life? Also holy shit fuck these captchas dude
>>65012825there are certain areas that are never going to get clean with just a normal brush/boresnake.for example youve got the forcing cone. no amount of running a 12guage brush will make that are clean. the 12g brush is sized for the bore. its undersized for the chamber/forcingcone. its not going to get as clean.its quite possible your brushes are worn out if its years old. if you use them regularly they probably are.good enough to clean the land parts of the barrel and unable to hit the grooves.
>>64996427You what?
>>65012825Carbon can need autosol but don't go too hard
What's the purpose of the white lines and triangles markings on this Finnish mortar?
>>65014852Uh, I lived in a cult, in an off-grid community. For 15 years. So, I'm guessing by the lack of answers nothing better than my USP has been made, right?
>>65015081It looks like there's a clamp in the center between those two white triangles that can be loosened and adjusted between them. That would change the angle of the mortar, probably an elevation adjustment.
There are a couple places with helicopters on display near where I live, cobras specifically, and I was wondering how or if I could tell what models they were. Like numerals and markings or specific features. I drove by one just the other day and it had a big three barrel gun in the chin turret
>>65015081High and low limits of the pantel sight.
>>65015093That's based. Did you hear of 6.5 creedmoor in there? It's a thing now
I guess my question is how much of a good/bad idea is the owyhee takedown? they look really cute but this would be my first and only gun (for chill target shooting}
>>65015093Absolutely correct. The USP is lacking exactly two features common to newer pistols, which may or may not be consequential to you depending on your use case and preferences: a slide that can easily accommodate red dot optics, and a picatinny rail for mounting standard lights. Solutions do exist to add these features to the USP, but they tend to involve more expense or complexity compared to a pistol that natively supports them, with some exceptions (like how a USP rail variant of the Streamlight TLR-3 is still available). I don’t particularly care about this criticism, though. My USP is for fun at the range and for open carry on hikes innawoods, and I don’t care to mount anything on it. In my view, no other handgun exceeds or even matches its appeal for LARPing or for the hypothetical moment of “oh fuck I need to reliably dump as many rounds as possible of .45 Super hardcast into that bear’s chest immediately”.
>>65016235No, seems like everyone is all over it, but isn't that just the same thing as 6.5x55?>>65016487alright cool. Have they made a good bullpup yet or are those all still kinda weird aside from the AUG?
>>65016565I don’t think any bullpups have earned any greater renown since the introduction of the AUG. There’s a Croatian one sold in America as the “Springfield Hellion” that is perhaps alright, but I don’t really hear about it much and have never tried it myself.
>>64938147full auto is the "first" position with semi being the bottom or second. This is so when conscriptivich or honestly anyone panics during an ambush they quickly just force the safety down it goes past auto to semi and they don't burn the majority of a mag in instinctive reactionary fire
>>64933822Ive got some money burning a hole in a pocket and ive found a few things i want to spend it on. What do you think would be a better choice?1. Red dot mount on my carry/comp gun2. 357 revolver3. Acquire shotgun4. Rebuild my Bubba'd and beat to shit SKS + Bayonets for my other rifles5. RDB-C6. Slightly less cucked AR to replace the fixed mag oneI live in a no funs state if you're curious about the odd choice in rifles.
>>65016565the RDB and its variants are the new go to entry level bullpup for about 750 along with having a pretty decent trigger even for non bullpups. Desert tech has a lot of premium options too but you're paying like 6k for most of their shit.>>65016615Hellion is eh its ok having shot it a few times. The price is far too much for what its asking sadly.
>>65016730oh and to build onto your USP you can get red dots on USPs now, but the only company worth sending it too, wright armory, is going to charge you 400~ bucks for it.
>>65016722Voting for #2 especially if you get a cool looking one
>>65016565Very similar to 6.5x55 but has some advantages and more importantly completely changed shooter culture. People are big into longer range shooting and heavy for cal bullets now, 6.5 creed started that
>>65016472It's cool, but do you need to pay a large premium for having a takedown? Also consider that with a scope on it, it will be less handy to carry around packed up?If I were you I'd look at a CZ457 varmint. Cheaper, something you'd be proud to own and quite versatile. The heavy barrel makes it less fussy if you want cheap plinking ammo or hollow point hunting ammo.But get what you want because at the end of the day you're just having fun with it so may as well get what's most fun
>>65016007picrel looks like an AH-1S cobra armed with a M197 20mm gatling gun.
>>65016615>aug is still probably the best bullpup>>65016948>the big revolution in rifles is copying a cartridge older than the Model T by decades>just learned somewhere else people pay $1000 for Romanian AKsThis is hell. I'm going back, somehow. Thanks guys.
>>65017008Yeah well wait until you find out how much women have degenerated since you went dark
>>65016472I always question how much these things can really consistently stay zeroed when removing and replacing the barrel. Especially when you have a scope on the receiver instead of iron sights (or a scope) on the barrel. And the length savings on these things can be nearly matched by a simple folding stock, depending on barrel length. CZ457 would be my choice as well; you can even get barrels for 22LR, 22 Magnum, or 17 HMR for those. Only need to undo two screws on the barrel and change the mag out. Also,>OwyheeWho? Sounds like one of those Amazon no-name brands, lol.
Are there any good books or other resources on the history of macvsog? I tried just looking for videos but there's not much
What are the best American made shotguns?
>>65020503>Are there any good booksthere are a lot, I'd start with picrel. SOG: The Secret Wars of America's Commandos in Vietnam. there's also SOG cast on YouTube and other podcast apps that are just a bunch of interviews with former SOG members.
>>65019798The name is interesting, it's the original name for hawaii. A couple Hawaiian tribesman went to this valley somewhere in America and we're never seen again so they named the region after them, but kept the old name. It does unfortunately sound like an AliExpress brand now
>>65019798>>65016959good point guys, I'll consider the cz
>>65021019One thing though, at least with the weird random gun you went and picked what you wanted. The CZ is probably the better choice but also the most vanilla. But yeah, for just one gun the takedown isn't the best I'd say, more of a novelty
>>65021034Also I assume you're not in Canada, they have a good gun option but banned in USA
>>65021038Australia lol
>>64935696If you dont want to be harassed and dont mind complying, not really any reason not to. I never did before because I'm a cheap fuck but now that they're free I've "made" 3. Also you can put vert grips on shit and not worry about it becoming an sbr or aow "accidentally". Other retards saying about govt lists dont realize you probably are already on some shithead's list simply for accessing this site.
>>64936216Mine took 58 days, submitted jan 28. I called and asked because one of mine was denied and she told me on the phone they're taking about that long still because of the volume. The website still says 30 days but I think they just dont have a realistic grasp of how many retards are sbring everything. I think form 4s for suppressors from the store are moving quicker, my lgs said that its usually between 12hrs and 4 days
>>64988525I bought one in better but similar condition for like 325 or 350. Just hold out, dont piss away money on it unless its less than 500.
>>64933822Is it worth going through the trouble and exchanging an xdm for a cz75? Legally you can have one handgun in my country and I've had my xdm for a while, it always worked but I always hated it's appearance and it was basically w compromise because back when I bought it I was broke and couldn't afford a 75. I mean I'm still poor but I can afford the new gun price difference but I fear I'll hate myself for giving away my first gun for one that I wanted to be my first gun.
>>65021363As some whos owned both nah both are equally meh. Cz has more media presense and ooh gunsmithcats. both are good enough but not great. Cz with mods has better highend potential but there are other brands that are just better. Its meh for meh. Good enought to not complain about if its whats you have but nothing special either.
>>64988287Out here in so called yugo states when we say 7.62 it means 7.62x39, 308 and x51 are just called 7.62 nato x54r is just called M84 round since that MG is the only weapon we made that uses it kek
Why do youtubers have to hold rifles like retards like they clamp their hand around the entire handguard handle or barrel and have this retarded posture?Just shoulder it and put your other hand under the front handle, you're not shooting a cannon
>>65023197it makes it easier to control recoil and shoot fast
>>65023206What recoil lol they shoot 223 from hugging distance
>>64970812black powder 44-40 (a pistol cartridge) has probably killed more deer than anything other than 30-30
>>65023216yeah, and if you do the gay C-clamp it has even less. the point is to shoot fast/
>>64988525id buy one like that not to restore but to complete the bubbmorpahsis by inletting a pistol grip and raising the comb
>>65023216223 kicks appreciably, not painful of course but it needs controlled if you want any accuracy, especially out of a bolt gun
>>65021159Ok Australia is cool, better for hunting. I'm in New Zealand
>>65021159Also not sure if they're available but the Aussie made Lithgow La101 is extremely well regarded. About the most accurate factory 22lr
>>65023332recoil only matters for super quick follow up shots which you cannot do with a manually operated firearm anyway
Magnifier fags, how do you like the EOtech G33? I'm curious if it's worth the pricetag.
>>65024113Its a nice addition to have. How much are you looking to spend? In the ballpark of 400-500 bucks? That's what I'd pay for a new one.
>>65023379Nah not really, a lot of the recoil still happens before the bullet leaves the barrel. Even 22lr recoils appreciably if you're actually watching the target you can see the jump
>>65023332All of them use the wrong posture and no tacticool gay gun holding is gonna fix that, you get accuracy by stabilizing the gun and having minimal movement, look at how sports shooters hold 22 and air rifles. That but less exaggerated is how you hold a rifle. t.- served in the military that actually won wars on it's own territory
>>65024126$500 would be alright with me, it's nothing I'm in a rush to get, but I figure the option would be nice.
I don't know a damn thing about accessories. What's the average price i should expect for holsters, sights, and magazines? Is Proman a decent brand for magazines? I keep seeing mixed reviews.
>>65026132Which gun(s)? OWB or IWB holsters? What kind of sights? Irons? Red dots?Don't ever fucking get Promags.>Please>Remember >Our>Magazines>Are>Garbage
>>65021363You should do it. If you're only allowed one gun, then get the one you really want. Nostalgia is nice, but think forward.
Any commercial IFAK recs? Is it better to assemble one yourself?
>>65026929>which gunI have a Taurus G3C and bought a IWB holster from wethepeople. It was around 65 bucks. I'm just wondering if that's normal or if I overpaid. >what kind of sightsIron or red dot, really. just trying to get a basic idea of price range.>Don't ever fucking get Promags.OEM it is, then.
>>65027008I hate to say you overpaid. Wethepeople holsters kinda suck and they charge way more than they're worth. Generally a good pistol holster will be $75-200.On the positive side, you're learning. It's better to start [reasonably] cheap while you're figuring out what works for you. Then you know what you want when you're ready to drop more cash. That said, more expensive doesn't always mean better. Magpul is a pretty reliable brand for most everything and they're affordable.Irons start around $50-60, depending on the gun. Red dots will be at least $150. Less if you're comfortable getting something used.Always happy to help if you need more advice. Do you have anything besides the G3C?
>>65027125>I hate to say you overpaid.That's exactly what I thought when I took it out the package.>THIS costs 65 dollars?I'll end up using it until it breaks, then I'll find something else, I guess. I'll look harder next time.>do you have anything besides the G3CShopping around for an AR but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Trying to budget out a safe for the handgun(considering Vaultek) and a lockable case for the rifle, because a locker isn't in the cards right now. Aside from that, I'm just trying to get more magazines for the G3C. Can't afford to buy too much right now, but I figure expenses will be highest upfront. I do appreciate the feedback.
>>65028074G3C is great. Lots of good budget ARs out there. r/gundeals is your friend. Might have choice paralysis.Most importantly, practice practice practice. No gun nor accessory will replace fundamental skills.
>>65027008OEM, Mec-Gar, etc. Also check gun.deals so you can find the cheapest price. Mags are seemingly always overpriced in-store. Ironically the cheapest mags I have nearby is a local single location place. Otherwise I buy mags online like 5 at a time.
I’m new to carrying (moved from freedomland to nigland) what are some summer fits and carry positions that /k/ recommends? Luckily the summers here are mild enough to still layer, I don’t want to overtly carry.
>>65024730To be fair I've never watched a guntuber but 223 definitely recoils especially from a bolt rifle
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