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For me, it's the Glock 19
My next goal is five rounds in the upper A zone of an IPSC silhouette at seven (7) yards then the lower A zone at 20 yards
>>64946902If you want a first handgun, pick the 92FS (or Sig P226)If you want an only handgun, pick the Glock 19
Took out the caliber requirement since it seems most people don't have mouseguns. Somebody shoot this and give feedback pls.
>>64946913First handgun should be the one he's going to carry. Range toys are not a priority
>>64946894Anyone have experience with optics plates? I'm wondering how high red dots sit on them and what the cowitness is, specifically for 1911s. Or do most people just get their slide milled and call it a day?
>>64946942>92FS>range toyPeople have been carrying the 92 series for 50 years, friend
>>64946942>Range toysLet me guess, anything but a compact or subcompact glock is a "range toy"?
I’m a total noob. I’ve boiled my search down to brand new Glock 19 Gen 6 or get a brand new Ruger RXM for roughly 60% of the price. What do?
>>64946964the ones in the OP (Nighthawk IOS system), the BUIS are the same height as standard irons, this is Springfield's AOS system which are "suppressor height" BUIS.Once you get used to suppressor height and taller optics mounting you kind of don't want to move away from it. "being tall" isn't really that much of a problem unless the optic is prohibitively tall over the bore.
>>64946976There's a reason the Ruger is cheaper, anon. Go for the glock imho.
>>64946964It depends on the gun and what iron sights you have. If you need to be able to cowitness but can’t, you can always buy suppressor height iron sights.
>>64946976Get the RXM and spend the difference on ammo and mags. (Mostly ammo) You will be better off that way. Plus, nowadays, Ruger is less cucked than Glock and you will have a chasis gun so you can change the grip size if you want.
>>64946964I’ve decided that cowitness is mostly a boomer meme. You want to still be able to see your iron sights in the event your dot runs out of battery or breaks, but anything higher than 1/3 or even 1/4 cowitness just eats into the usable window size. If the iron sights on your gun are higher than the deck height of the optic, you’re good.
>>64946974He's not wrong. It's the age old knife and gun answer to what is the best one. The one you will carry everyday therefore will have when you need it is the best choice. And should be the one you practice with the most. >What distance can you draw and fire from and hit a 12 inch circle with 100% of the time? This information tells you at what distance you draw and fire in any situation and at what distance you move for cover. All the training in the world is irrelevant if you don't know how to respond to near and far threats relative to your ability.
>>64946976I'd go with the RXM.
>>64947013The thing is, the 92FS isn't THAT much more difficult to carry than a Glock 19. Sure it's heavier and the barrel is longer but you're pocket carrying a Glock 19 anyway. The height and width are close enough that you can work with it. And I guarantee you a first time gun owner would rather have a manual safety and hammer over a trigger safety anyday
>>64946941Too complicated; too thinking; too lazy
>>64946941I feel embarrassed to shoot it, makes me look like a libtard. Though constructing his actual cell from MDF sheets would be fun, and shooting the imaginary Jeff.>>64947049Where's your real can?
why don't they make (obscure gun that exactly matches my own personal preferences and wouldn't sell enough to justify mass production)?
>>64946976RXM has a better grip texture than a gen 5 Glock and a better trigger bow but about as good as trigger of a gen 5 as well. Haven't been able to get my hands on a gen 6 Glock yet to test it's feel but it doesn't do anything impressive for me imo. The RXM absolutely has a better optics mounting solution though, you'll probably be able to direct mount almost anything you want onto it which is a huge benefit imo especially in terms of minimizing hassle. The RXM absolutely has a worse finish than a Glock though, mine has the finish on the barrel already pretty severely worn after a meager couple hundred rounds shot through it and a bunch of dry firing. Imo I don't think this is a very big deal at all because if you barrel ever, for whatever reason, getting too rusty you can always swap it out for one of the many Glock aftermarket barrels out there. Also, and not that you'll be swapping frequently, but you can swap the grip on the RXM which is what I did to make a G45 sized pistol. It's nice if you ever want to experimentOverall I'd say RXM
>>64947088I didn't use it for the side by side comparison because S&W has STILL not shipped me the thread adapter and optic plate they left out of the box (going on 4 weeks now)>>64947135You could get job shops or special interest machinists and engineers to make just about anything you want, but the kind of autist you're describing is not going to pay $10-15,000 to make one gun happenYou gotta roll your own like the WA2000 guy or the Wrist Annihilator 5000 guy
>>64947135This, but unironically
>>64947135Why doesn't Beretta make a PX-4 Compact or 90 series in .45 ACP?
>>64947046I've carried the M9 in the army. Wasn't a fan. I carried the 17 doing guard duty before the army. I carried the 1911 hunting and fishing growing up along with various revolvers. I prefer 70 series 1911s and the Glock 17 over the 92 for edc. Manual safety and hammers are preferences that come from use in my opinion. A first time pistol owner usually will adapt to what they use quickly. If they plan on concealed carry In my opinion the choices vary greatly depending on the person.
Anyone cc an 80X? What holster you like?
>>64947135>Why don't they just remake the (weird milsurp pistol that would need hundreds if not thousands of hours of R&D to be completely reverse-engineered and made suitable for production)? Me and the dozens of other C&Rsenal fans would buy it, but only if they kept the price under 2,000 dollarinos.
>>64947197>why dey don' give me shit for free
OEM G43x 15 rounders are coming April 15th. Also confirmed by glock store. About damn time.https://lipseys.com/itemdetail?itemno=GL79269
>>64946976I would get the Glock.
>>64946966>92 seriesHe specified the 92FS which is nobody's choice for carry in The Big 26>>64946974Any poly striker from a reputable manufacture would suffice>>64947140>RXM absolutely has a better optics mounting solutionIf a pistol optic was affordable to him, he wouldn't be contemplating Ruger in the first place
Holy shit gun shows fucking suck. The whole placed smelled like dirty ass. And the fudds dont even carry S&W revolvers.
>>64947334>which is nobody's choice for carry in The Big 26Do you get all your information from guntubers/instagram?
>>64947373I don’t believe he gets any information at all
>>64947334>red dummy roundno balls
>>64947394He got them caffeine shakes
>>64947394The disparity between shots comes from your ouija board grip style. At that distance and time between shots you should not have such a great disparity between shots one and two. Three and four return to your original poa and then again large disparity. That's the pushing into recoil area of the target. Recoil shy. However with your fucked up grip style it's more likely you are not keeping your off hand thumb pressure even. Learn to shoot with one hand then add the other for support.
>>64947373You don't even have 92FS for EDC, disingenuous cuck. Quite frankly, I'd be surprised if you carried anything other than a vax card after that post about "pocket carrying a Glock 19">>64947409At least it wasn't an airsoft prop>>64947394sybau
>>64947442>Learn to shoot with one hand then add the other for support.holy noguns
>>6494745392 centurion and compact can be carried, but yeah the full size 92 is for home defense, duty, or training
>>64947394The MIGHTY recoil of the 9mm
>>64947461Don't post bad shooting and a piss poor grip style if you can't take it kid. I've been shooting and carrying pistols longer than you have been alive. If you can't shoot a pistol one handed you shouldn't be shooting it with two. Grip is extremely important and yours is not repeatable, obviously. From literally every video you have ever posted. Repeatability. Learn it.
>>64947453Tasteful giggle.
>>64947394I can make it even more simple for you dip shit. Your off hand thumb leaves its position and has to be reset every single shot.Holy fucking shouldn't have gunz
fairly certain this is the guy talking about one handed shooting and been "carrying pistols longer than you've been alive"
>>64947496If so, that anon (jared) is 100% right. Learn to turn your arm into a solid piece of wood
>>64947507nah, he's retarded and uglyprobably smelly too
>>64947496I'm sorry did you need the faggy comp grip correction instead? Ok. Your off hand is too fucking loose you absolute cunt. And you definitely shouldn't be relaxing it between shots. The firing hand in a comp grip is relaxed and the off hand should be tight as fuck. And at no point should you be doing whatever fucking gay ouija board fuckery you are doing with your off thumb and fingers. Fucking blowhard dipshit child.
>>64947515Right he's no aryan but the injun can at least shootOur brave aryan anon, should stop using stimulants and work on his arm strength
Just bought a German p228.Thinking about how to re anodize this to restore the slide and frame. It's pretty beat up
>>64947523looking through your channel I don't see any actual shooting, only bullseye fairy tale shit
>>64947453>You don't even have 92FS for EDC, disingenuous cuckYou were saying, you absolute faggot?
>>64947533>It's pretty beat upLooks fine to me anon
>>64947564Keep distracting from the fact you don't have a good grip instead of learning something with child level nonsense. I do have a channel, not the little brown twink though. Try again. Seriously kid it's getting old. Your grip is so shit that a 9 mil is forcing you to reset every shot.
>>64947584It's much worse inside the rails and the other side. It doesn't impact how it shoots at all. Figured since I'm holding onto this for awhile might as well do a semi restoration
>>64947604post a video of you shooting
>>64947615Take the advice and improve instead of trying to make someone else look as shitty as you.
>>64947581God, those roll marks are so fucking gay. Which is why the m9 is the only acceptable 92
Is it a felony to remove "read instructions before operating" and other such gay nonsense from my guns or someone else's gun for that matter? Not a dealer or anything just a buddy and me got fed up with having text all over the gun
>>64947633I also hate serial numbers.
>>64947633No, but you can't do it.
So did anyone get the DS Warrior yet?
>>64947633How else would you know the gun can fire without a magazine?
>>64947650Nonsense
>beginner anon posts a shooting video >gets mercilessly shit on by newfags who haven't even posted gun yet This general has gone to absolute shit.
>>64947663Holy shit that looks so much better.
>>64947641Serial numbers should be hidden imo>>64947661Put it to my headpiece and pull the trigger duh>>64947665Teach that anon how 2 shoot instead of complaining
>>64947463>these Beretta models that aren't the FS are appropriate for EDCYeah>>64947483Teehee>>64947581All right, the 92FS has the endorsement of Google Pixel anon for carry over the Glock 19>>64947476The video doesn't belong to the anon you're arguing with, he's a chronic baiter that keeps posting it
>>64947665>anon>posts a shooting videoThat's where you fucked up right there.
>>64947677forgot to mention that YOU are the one in the video
>>64946894How much of a pain are dovetail red dot adapters? Is it still possible to get a lower 1/3 co-witness, or is it better to just pay a little more to get the slide cut and accept that it's not a "reversible" modification?
>>64947691>Is it still possible to get a lower 1/3 co-witness, impossible, you're replacing the rear sight with an optic mount that's going to sit super tall. There are ones with BUIS integrated into the mount but they're useless if the entire mount shifts in the dovetail.
>>64947677I'd say just take the L like a man but you're currently giving ppanon a run for his money on faggotry bordering on androgyny. Just do us a favor and adopt a trip so we can filter you, thanks
>>64947615>suck>cry about it and lash out like a nigger when correctedfaggot
>>64947735"corrected""the worst advice ever posted"
>>64947748If you can't shoot like this guy then you aren't ready to shoot with two hands.
>>64947748>stop shifting your fucking grip after every shot>worst advice ever postedSell your guns and jump off a bridge
Is there a target shooting equivalent of body dysmorphia? What's the 1/2/3/4?
>>64947774No, it was this >Learn to shoot with one hand then add the other for support.
>>64947734His goal is trollish disruption, of course he's not going to give you a tool to avoid it. He's spent the last year wallposting 10 replies at once to stay "on topic" with 1 reply while making 10 obvious antagonizing troll replies. The mods do nothing anymore.
>>64947819You're cherrypicking:>>64947484Quit pretending you don't suck ass worse just because someone else learned to shoot one handed.
>>64947799The reality is that 95% of dangerous situations can be avoided through awareness, 4.5% can be avoided through just retreating, nonlethal methods such as mace or displaying your piece and a ridiculously small amount that actually require your gun to be drawn take place so close to you that you can't miss anyway.By all means train to whatever youre comfortable with but the idea that you need to have sub half-second splits or else you'll get killt in da streets is just asinine.
>>64947839that's not even me shooting, I was saying>Learn to shoot with one hand then add the other for support.is fucking stupid
>>64947830>The mods do nothing anymore.The mods don't camp every thread banning anyone who is being mildly disruptive or controversial, this is 4chan not arfcom. Report it if it breaks the rules.
If my Springfield TRP 1911 is my favorite gun I own, will I like the Prodigy? The thing I like most about the TRP is the super rough checking and grips. The Prodigy seems to have more of that M&P style rough polymer grip.
>>64947844I am the danger.
>>64947855you can always just buy a 25 dollar word burner, 20 dollar stippling tip set from OTDefense and do it yourself like the OP gun. The texture is very roughthe prodigy texture is very mild
>>64947844you must train everyday with a main cc that holds 17+1 and 3 extra mags and also a backup gun and also a knife
why does everyone laugh at me whenever I show them my taurus?
>>64947898If you show them good groupings, they'd stop laughing. I'm more afraid of a guy who spent a $2000 on a g2c, ammo and training than a guy who spent $5000 on a Staccato
>>64947849I do, that's what I'm talking about. Mods have never been proactive.
>>64947938If only this was reddit then you could ban everyone you don't like.
>>64947855The textures and shape aren't really equivalent between grip panels and the Prodigy module, but like anon said the texture is nowhere near M&P M2.0 aggressive so if that's what you're looking for it ain't it. It's a quite good Goldilocks zone though imo, nice and grippy but the fine pebbles don't gouge into your skin. I like it a lotCan you feel one at a gun store? The Prodigy is really popular, should be some available for finger fucking near you to feel for yourself
>>64947938It's 4 chan you fucking fag go back
>>64947959>>64947985Him and weedgineer are the only two people I have ever reported. I'm not going to assume you want them two around.
>>64947938>I dothen what you're reporting must not violate any rules. Welcome to 4chan, sack up and ignore shitters or go circlejerk with the boomers on arfcom
I know I'm a retard, but how bad is it exactly that I want to get a 4.25 colt anaconda for my first gun in ten years? I plan on hunting, target shooting and maybe getting into IDPA and ICORE. Concealed carry is not technically impossible since I'm a bigger guy (6'3") but will be a secondary concern. I will mostly be running .44 special.
>>64947847Yeah because nobody ever had to shoot their concealed carry one handed in self defense
>>64948020so your response is to learn a shitty two hand grip because shooting one handed is more important?
>>64947394This shooter isn’t pastebin. Pastebin is much worse.
>>64948045Shut the fuck up and learn to shoot upside down hanging from the ceiling.
What drills should I do besides the bill drill?
>>64948123Doubles and maybe do Mozambiques https://youtu.be/niLQOOT5rHE https://youtu.be/Dm2ETRjVHi4
>>64947394Holy shit. Why is this r*dditard pushing the front of his gun with his support hand? Holy kek, lmfao!
Got a CC9 yesterday, took it to the range today and put about 3 boxes through it. I was hoping I at least wouldn't hate it but I might like it even more than the P2000SK I've been carrying for the past year. Gonna see how I feel after a thousand rounds or so since this is the honeymoon period but so far it's promising. Was mainly concerned with the trigger going from da/sa to striker and it feels perfectly fine and it's a little snappier than my P2K but returns to zero quicker. Just need to pick out a holster now which already has way more options than the P2K and I think I'll try it with an optic (thought about getting a light too but that feels like going a little overboard for an edc)
>>64948370wait, the P2000 is not that small, so the CC9 is not that compact after all
>>64948370Um based? Based and redpilled?? I love the CC9. I found that after 1,000 rounds in broke in super well.>>64948392That's the P2KSK. CC9 is smollbean.
>>64948024It's amazing how people were extremely accurate one handed and one handed grip with support for the entirety the history of the handgun and all of a sudden you reddit faggots think it no longer works. The comp grip does not translate to one handed. The comp grip is a loose dominant hand with the off hand clamped down very hard on it. This allows for some pretty incredible trigger manipulation. What it does not do is translate to anything other than itself. So reddit retard. Learn to shoot one handed. Grasp the fundamentals. Learn to shoot main hand with off hand support. Then when you can actually use a fucking handgun in a meaningful way learn how to use a comp grip. You absolute faggot.
>>64948123Silhouette [B27-E] at 12 yards, eight (8) rounds each from the holster aiming for the 10 ring and a 2.50s average>>64947690Irrelevant>>64947830>last yearThere you go again, whinging about the past like a teenage girl
>>64948443>It's amazing how people were extremely accurate one handed and one handed grip with support for the entirety the historyWesterns are pretty cool.
>>64948429Based knower. Yeah I'd been mulling over it for the past month or so and hopped on a good deal I found locally, in the meantime I'd done a lot of reading up on it and a lot of people seem to find that it breaks in nicely (especially manipulating the slide and mag release) after a few hundred rounds. How do you like the amsc? I kinda cheaped out and ordered an osight se just to see if I even like having a dot on a carry gun.
im a fucking retarded faggot but i have a job, i really enjoyed shooting the stealth arms platypus as a range rental, should i just pull the trigger on it (NO PUN INTENDED HAHAHAHAHA)? It feels very natural in the hand and I liked it more than the compact glock and the sig p220 i also tried, though I have to say the full size gen 6 glock for whatever reason looks quite nice to me and is obviously like half the price.
>>64948487I hate the Shield dots. They're honestly terrible and I would never recommend anyone buy one. The PWM flicker is bad, can't adjust the brightness, it has this terrible hood/window thing within the main windows that wastes like 20% of the window and is distracting, the battery life is bad, the auto brightness is bad, the warranty takes months if you ever need to use it, and it's overpriced. It does however look cool and has pretty much no overhang, which were my main two priorities. Despite the problems, it's still a dot and I shoot fast and well with it. Having a dot is still good. If I didn't have this, then I'd pick up one of the new Holosun enclosed dots. I bet the Osight will be good for a few thousand rounds if nothing else.
>>649484472.5s? For 8 rounds at 12 yards from the holster? Or do you mean the glacial pace of 2.5s between rounds
>>64946908Nice Glock 19 Gen 4I have one too, and funny enough I just bought two boxes of HSTFuck mane HST is expensive
>>64947334A 92FS can be CC'ed in a IWB holster you fucking dipshit
>>64948767maybe for you, twink
>>64948008Just get a 4.25 Python .44 anything is fucking expensive and I'm looking to get to handloading my .44 mag brass but I need to invest in a new powder, large primers, and bullets
>>64948767They're a lot smaller than I thought they would be.
>>64948780I'm 5'9 and 188 poundsI did it when was bouncing between 215 and 225
>>64948663>glacial pace of 2.5s between roundsThink you can keep it in the 10 ring with less than two seconds between rounds?>>64948740Thank you but it's a Gen3 Glock 17 :L>just bought two boxes of HSTHave you always had them for EDC? Only recently switched from Critical Duty so I have no experience with these! >expensiveI thought HST was the budget option because it cost less than 90¢ per round. Hope they didn't rip me off, kek>>64948767So do it and see what happens
>>64948808I pretty much did mostly critical duty and even sierra/walther but I wanted to switch to something that was uniform not only with my carry guns, but also my HD gun.And I did 5 rounds each with my carry guns and it shoots good.>It's a Glock 17All fine in my book, I have both a Gen 5 and a 17 Classic
Am I the only one thinking about going .22LR only for a while?I don't want to waste my 9mm or 5.56 as I am trying to stack up on them
>>64948808Yes, I shoot the reduced size version of that target all the time
>>64948787>I'm 5'9
Any USP friends have experience with the Short Reset System? If so, what are your thoughts on it and is it worth the hundred burger bucks?
>>64948887I have no idea, I like my stock USP45 as it is
>>64948887It’s a shorter reset kit and not a short reset kit
Now that warmer weather is here, what holsters does everyone use to not print like a motherfucker in t-shirt and shorts. Yes I already know about the Enigma, is it THAT good
>>64948950The big benefit of the engima is that you can ride it down lower so the grip is inline with your belt line so nothing is printing above the waist band.
>>64948887I didn't know there was one. For $100 I'm willing to try it.
>>64948950>needing to wait for warmer weather
I admit that bullseye is by far the least realistic pistol sport, but being able to dump shots into the 10 ring of a B6 target at 50 yards on command is very fucking impressive. I also like watching ISSF women's 25m sport pistol, they have some qts in there.
>>64948887I have it on my P30 and my P2000SK. P30 has the stock trigger and there's an improvement but it doesn't make it a ton better, it still feels like a P30 trigger. The P2K also has the grayguns flat trigger and it feels buttery smooth with the shorter reset. If you can swing it I'd get both the short reset and one of their triggers, they have both curved and flat. Otherwise I don't think I'd bother. Also get the trigger removal tool or whatever from hkparts if you go that route or you're gonna have a bad time.
>>64949034>Also get the trigger removal tool or whatever from hkparts if you go that route or you're gonna have a bad time.Is it okay to not like that? I really hated doing it but I figured people would call me a bitch if I said anything.
>>64949069Haven't done it myself but I had my P30 cerakoted so it had to be taken apart and the guy I bought the P2K from had installed the trigger himself. They both tried to do it without the tool at first and ended up caving and just buying it so might as well save yourself the trouble.
>>64949086If I ever mess with it again I'm getting the tool. Are all pistol triggers like that? I've been putting off doing another gun for that reason.
>>64949034>If you can swing it I'd get both the short reset and one of their triggers, they have both curved and flat.Any issues with reliability after the install? If I go for it I'd be doing it with my concealed carry gun so I really wouldn't want to find out the hard way. Was honestly considering swapping to a flat trigger just by itself, but for almost $100 I figured I'd only do it combined with the short reset or not at all.
>>64949086bro why would you cerakote a p30
>>64949113I've never replaced any other triggers so I don't have personal experience but most aftermarket handgun triggers seem to be drop in for the most part, it's mostly just HK that's a pain in the ass.>>64949131My P2K in >>64948370 has 3k rounds through it in the year I've owned it and I think MAYBE one single malf that was just bad ammo? Honestly I don't remember, I note how much I shoot after every range trip and take notes if there's anything weird and I don't have a single one so even that might not have happened. It's eaten up everything I've thrown at it from several brands and different loads so I have confidence in the system's reliability, knock on wood.
I really do like my Sig P226 MK25It looks so fucking coolI want more mags for this thing, maybe a holster too
>>64949166>it's mostly just HK that's a pain in the ass.Neat. Maybe tomorrow then. I've been sitting on this for like two years.
>>64949166>My P2K in >>64948370 has 3k rounds through it in the year I've owned it and I think MAYBE one single malf that was just bad ammo?Neat, thats a relief. Thanks for the replies anon, I guess tomorrow I'll take apart my gun and see if my trigger bar has an extra cut in it, for if I need to buy one without the cut along with the trigger removal tool.
I'm looking for a dumb video review of a super snubby revolver, it may have even been further sawn off. The guy is like "Accuracy, negligible. Velocity, some"
>>64946941First time joining the challenge, is this supposed to just be on a 8.5x11 paper?
>>64948818Excellent, thank you for your knowledge transfer>>64948841breedy gud shooting fren
I'm just...tired of guns bros. I've spent 20 years of my life obsessing over them, collecting them, and now I just feel empty. I don't desire to shoot. I don't desire to watch gun content. I don't care about new products.
>>64949333yeah just print it out
>>64949312Booligan shooting sports on youtube, his chopped up taurus snubnose.
I want a (9mm for more boolits per dolla) gun for shooting, mostly IPSC (Production or Classic). CZ Shadow 2 or mid-budget (Springfield tier) 1911 in 9mm? I'm gonna have some work done to the trigger for either platform, springs at the very least. It's gonna be my only gun (it will replace my CZ 75B which has minor mods for IPSC). It's gonna get shot around 200-400 rounds weekly, and dry-fired many times almost daily.
>>64949450cz shadow is a meme gun get a walther or a vp9 match if youre a real man
>>64949464What about the parts for those things, man. I want a gun for which you can buy replacement springs and shit everywhere.
>>64949467hk sells oem parts through their site and vp9 is probably their most popular model idk about walther
>was worried about ammo prices>gas shoots up insteadPhew. Was worried I might have to stop buying so much ammo.
>>64945994fuckk okay, i might have to cancel my purchase then, i only put 50% downthe reason i wanted it is because i love the Beretta cheetahbut being in California means i cant even get a fucking police trade-in cheetah for $300 since its not on the roster
>>64949712The genuine beretta isn't on the list, but the knockoff is? lol california.
>>64949674Blazers like 23 cpr I dunno looks like things have gone up a bit
>>64949712>but being in California means i cant even get a fucking police trade-in cheetahCurio & Relic pistols are exempt from the Roster. Beretta Cheetahs were introduced in 1976, so first production year Cheetahs are fair game. Or play the waiting game long enough and you'll eventually be able to buy those police trade-ins, assuming any are left.
What's the appeal of the Cheetah to you anyway? Size wise it's basically P365XL but it's a .380. If it's because you're obsessed with DA/SA get a CZ2075, if that's on your california cucklist.
>>64949422Thanks anon
>>64949912all metal, hammer fired, DA/SA, and the styling is very attractive and it's sleek as a CCW optionthe caliber isn't that big of a deal with modern loads and it's a piece of history from Beretta which i have a soft spot fornever cared for striker fired or polymer guns
how retarded is this idea>inb4 veryI've been wanting a glock 34- my astigmatism is so severe that red dots are basically unusable for me, particularly "micro" dots, and I already carry an x300 which when on a glock frame extends the same length as a 34 length slide and barrel so thus I figure I'm already carrying that length anyway so I might as well get some extra barrel and sight radius out of it. I've been carrying a gen 3 glock 19 for years now, and honestly most of the changes to gen 6 are shit I've already done to my 19 like adding stipping, soldering on and blending on a longer beavertail, swapped the trigger shoe for a flat faced one, etc. How retarded would it be for me to buy a gen 6 17 now and carry that until a third party eventually makes an extended slide and barrel for gen 6? I've looked at plenty of other guns for edc and innawoods and I dont know each of them other than maybe the mp2.0 just doesnt seem as much as what I want
>>64947394>this whole videothis is someone who argues that playing video games is "good supplementation for range training"
>>64949912He needs a lambo for groceries anon, he simply cantbe caught dead with a Corolla.
>>64950078Anon, we just want you to be happy. If that's what your heart desires and you think it's best for you, then that's all that matters. You'll always have our love and support. Don't ever forget that <3
>>64947533No "Made in W. Germany" rollmark? Lame
>>64948370>>64948429Based P2000SK enjoyers. Is the LEM or match trigger a better upgrade? I kind of like the stock DA/SA if I'm honest (almost wish it had the USP style safety though)
>>64948972>gets arrested for doing a heckin antisemitismhttps://floridapolitics.com/archives/607700-gov-desantis-signs-law-cracking-down-on-hate-speech-says-florida-led-the-way-fighting-antisemitism/
>>64950259My P2KSK is actually the LEM trigger. I have the DA/SA trigger on my ODG full size. The LEM trigger is neat too, but it's not for everyone (I like it though).I also like the stock DA/SA trigger on the P2K. I wouldn't change it personally unless you particularly dislike it. The LEM conversion kits are honestly kind hard to find these days. When they pop up for sale, they usually sell out instantly from people with restock notifications turned on. Probably not worth the case IMO, but if you find a kit easily, then have at it.The match trigger is pretty cool too. I like it on my full size USP. It really just depends on what you want to do with the gun/the kind of shooting you enjoy doing with it. I'm really not one to advocate for instantly replacing the stock trigger on every gun you own. Git gud with what you have and if after a thousand rounds or so you feel like you want it to be a lil different in a particular way, then you'll know what you want.
>>64950282Get one of those plates, but next to a remember the USS Liberty sticker
>>64950078>until a third party eventually makes an extended slide and barrel for gen 6Yeah right, it's going to drop next thing after a 40 s&w aftermarket gen 6 slide. Nah, it's either going to be 34 gen 6 oem or nothing. Third parties only make Glock 19 slides with ugly angular holes cut in them for weight relief and negrous design language. Mostly gen 3. Preferred gun from factor is now 19X, short stubby slide, full size grip. Someone said they can shoot 0.0001% faster if slide has low mass, and many lemmings followed. Until this changes, I would not expect any aftermarket for G34 past gen 3. I'm sure you noticed, not even gen 4 slides of that length were ever made by anyone other than Glock. And with current fashion trends, a hammer fired Glock is more likely possibility.>red dots are basically unusable for meNow that's a much more interesting discussion, I have ligma and shoot with corrective safety glasses. But I heard, at least for some people, it doesn't help. Did you try glasses? Ashperic lens sights? Red/green/amber all bloom? Did you test all out any of that at the brightly lot outdoor range?
>>64950396I hear ya. I haven't even Cajunized my P07 because putting 400 worth of mods into a 350 gun seems silly especially when the Omega trigger is goodnuff
So I had a few variants of the 230/232 a decade ago and the new resident evil game reminded me how it's (to me) the most beautiful handgun in the world. Ended up ordering another one with 5 mags only to realize no one makes holsters for them. Anyone have leather maker suggestions?fwiw this is a fashion gun, i daily a cc9 in a tenicor.
>>64949951>it's sleekPretty wide actually. Wider than even compact glocks which are fat SOBs
>>64949951FWIW the best .380 loads available are still less potent than a standard pressure 9mm and at such low velocities hollowpoints usually fail to expand.>>64950091I wouldn't call a fucking 80X a lambo, that's a big ass stretch. A Laugo Alien you could call a lambo.
>>64950675Thats why I prefer 32ACP. You just use FMJ and go for penetration.
>>64950684>that's why I prefer even LESS powerWhatever floats your goat, slappy.
Do I like ets mags for glock? Also what mags do I like for glock? I have no idea what to get.
>>64950752>Do I likeI don't know, do you?
>>64950756I don't know!
>>64950694Less recoil and still gets adequate enough penetration. Nothing wrong with 32acp.
>>64950752I have only ever used OEM mags and never had a problem
>>64950766Probably a good call. It came with some glock brand glock mags but they have aftermarket floorplates so I want to change that and get some new mags.
>>64950762>Less recoil>Beretta 80XFriend are you seriously complaining about the recoil of a 380 that is almost the same size as a G19?
>>64950752No, you don't like them. You like Glock brand Glock mags.
>>64950781Okay thank you.
>>64950780It's nice you got a reference point there because while it's weaker and heavier, it's going to have more recoil than Glock 19 due to inferior design.
>>64950762>Nothing wrong with 32acpThe price. Micro 9s have reached a point where even small women can conceal them with little issue. I don't see the reason to go for above .22 and less than 9mm unless you inherited a stockpile from your grandpappy or have generational wealth
>>64950787Are you physically frail? Because I don't like to make fun of the crippled. But if not, I'm about to proceed in making fun of you because even my wife carries a 9mm and she has wrists practically the size of an LCP's grip.
>>64950787Are you fucking serious with this shit?
>>64950798With guns like the Equalizer available, a 9mm subcompact is suitable even for the elderly. And it's a good shooter too, trigger is better than most subcompacts by far.
>>64950820Unless you have some kind of crippling disease or traumatic injury, the average adult man should not be carrying .25, .32 or .380
>>64950780I'm talking 32acp in general, not the 80X.>>64950864I like mouse guns, Anon. Just because something is better doesn't make other things useless. I mostly carry a J frame 38, but I would have no problem carrying a 380, 32, or even a 22.
>>64948950I got this https://concealmentlabs.com/store/p/concealmentbelt
>>64950864The bodyguard 2.0 has me feeling things though, its crazy how thin it is.
>>64950752You like Mec-Gar magazines but only for the models of Glock they are actually designed for: G17 and G19. You also like the standard 5.5lb "connector" because the wall on the 4.5lb one isn't defined enough
>>64951080I had to do a double take when I saw those on the shelf they are so tiny.
>>64950078>until a third party eventually makes an extended slide and barrel for gen 6Very slim chance of that happening. With the prevalence of red dots, ~5" inch guns are on their way out. I would just buy a Gen 5 34, do whatever you want to it, and call it a day. I don't think carrying a 34 is retarded at all, as long as it works for you. It also just looks fucking cool with the x300 and iron sights.
>>64950800Not exactly, as a side note I carry G30S and p365, the later is more pleasant to shoot, 9mm recoil is very weak after all. I also used to carry G42 and still practice it from time to time, it has less recoil.Now, blowback garbage like PPK and Cheetah specifically, are not enjoyable. Try them in rental, or, if you would like a trial, put your palm on the table, and ask your wife to smash the web of your palm with a hammer.
>>64950645>Ended up ordering another one with 5 magsHow much did that set you back? The 232 is going through a crazy bump right now. There's one on Gunjoker that is bid up to $1225. I'm a retard for RE guns, and even I have no inclination to purchase one at current prices.
>>64951080There's nothing else like it, makes that P365 feel like a brick by comparison.
>>64951080Tried to love the P365 SAS, but the gutter sights suck. The standard night sights are much better and since I've never had it get snagged I got rid of it. Salesgirl at the gun store talked me into it. Won't make that mistake again.
>>64951171The Bodyguard 2.0 T is too small for me. The P365 with the pinky extension is as small as I can comfortably grip and shoot.
If I want to get some upgraded parts for some older-style guns (mainly for the upgraded safety at least), what would be the best custom shop?I know about BH Spring Solutions, but I have also seen people say it’s a bit gimmicky because they don’t actually do gunsmithing themselvesAnother one high on my list is Cylinder & SlideAlso would it be better to get parts on my own and try to install things, or let someone do it like a gunshop or the actual custom shop Doing it myself has no wait and good if it’s easy but I don’t want to fuck something up and then make things not work anymore
>>64951186>with the pinky extensionHave you tried the BG2.0 with the larger 12rd mag?
>>64951198It's basically the same size as a P365 without the 10 rounds of 9mm
>>64951359It's very much not if you've actually held both, the BG2.0 feels significantly smaller, slimmer, and lighter even with the 12rd mag in. You can have a preference but bullshitting won't get you anywhere, anon.
>CT trying to copy the California glock banWhich Glocks should I buy before they become a felony firearm?
>>64951426The ones you want
>>64950223Dis is a berry nice poast :DDD>>64951426When in doubt, a Glock 19 is the answer.>but <insert concern here>!All valid points. But if you genuinely can't articulate what you're looking for or why you're looking for that, then just get the fucking G19. No one's ever gone wrong buying a 19, it's like the Camry of the gun world.
>>64951467What holster can I buy to IWB a Glock 19 this summer
>>64950645Based. I have an SL P232 because it looks and feels nice, but also carry a CC9. Idk about a leather holster maker though. That will likely need to be custom. >>64951135>VP 70 ZNeat! Is it fun to shoot?
tell me, oh mighty /hg/, is the usp in 9mm sacrilege?
>>64951557Nah. There's a decent argument for a USP in all three calibers
>>649515579 and 40 are the correct cartridges for the USP, 45 is for Mk23 larping. Buy all 3.
>>64951545>Is it fun to shoot?No!
>>64951557Be a king among kings and get one in .357 Sig.
>>64951701>357 SigYes pay more for for a round that has the exact same terminal ballistic performance as hot 9mm. But with more bark, faster wear and recoil than the hot 9mm. Brilliant.
>>64951701There's a reason I said "all three" .357 Sig is a meme round, even less relevant than .40 S&W
I dual-wield Desert Eagle .45s.
Anyone own a shield x? I’ve carried an EZ for almost two years and decided I like the polymer s&w pistols.
>>64951736>Desert Eagle .45s
>>64951732.40 has better terminal ballistics than the 9mm or 357 sig. It's relevant because it's better at the only job it has. Killing. Demonstrably better.
>>64951707>>64951732Pussies
>Kekler and Cuck, USPiss
>>64951779I carry .357 Magnum
>>64951773>implying desert eagle .45s don't existLooks like the retard you're fatigued over is you.
>>64951707>ballistic performance as hot 9mm>1400+ fpsThese things are not even close. I do, however agree with the folly of paying more, it's strictly a reloader's round. Think of 357 Sig as a better 9mm case that accepts same components and a bit more powder.Factory ammo:9mm: $215 per 1k rounds357 Sig: $450 per 1k roundsReloading:9mm: $123 per 1k 124 gr nukes + $30 primers357 Sig: $123 per 1k 124 gr nukes + $30 primers
What's the best handgun for a Black woman?>>64951587This tbdesu.>>64951670Cool!
>>64951787Poorfag detected
>>64951800
>>64951796That's a 1911 with the word Desert Eagle on it. Not a Desert Eagle proper... dumbass.
>>64951811>is a 45>says DESERT EAGLE on it>N-NO THAT DOESN'T COUTN BECUZ REASONSFaggot
>>64951796Big brain pic
>>64951815Does writing 1911 on the side of a Glock make it a 1911?You're a total idiot.
>>64951798The 357 sig and hot 9mm loads perform identically in terminal performance. It is impossible to tell the difference on the operating table. Tissue damage is identical. Depth is identical. The difference in energy is minimal and negated in bullet design. However the difference between full load 357 magnum and 357 sig is very different in favor of the magnum. This is not a topic of debate. It is demonstrably fact.
>>64951823>implying someone "just wrote that there"kill yourself.
>>64951823I'm pretty sure magnum research owns the rights to "desert eagle" and can call their 1911 a desert eagle if they want, dipshit.
>>64951815>t.Lol, jew
>>64951825They do not, 357 Sig replicates 357 Magnum 125 grain load exactly, so it's identical in performance to that older reference.>negated in bullet designOh, but using modern bullet design, same as 9mm basically, except 300 fps faster, reaching 357 magnum velocities.
>>64951823He's right. For me, it's the desert eagle 9mm.
This argument...I've seen it before...I know it.
>>64951826Ladies first>>64951829>a Mac and a PC are the same thingI can put a Mac sticker on a PC but that doesn't make it a Mac.It's like those bubbas who say the AK and SKS are the same thing. Stay dumb I guess.
>>64946894Your thoughts?
>>64951837For me, it's the DERSERT EAGLE
y'all seen stoeger's boomer incel rage yet? https://x.com/bx_on_x/status/2031156743212859707
>>64951837>the 941 and DE are the same thingSo just because I can put a Ford emblem on a Chevy, does that actually make it a Ford?
>>64951844
>>64951845Look man, you were technically wrong. Don't be salty about it.
>>64951834357 sig mimics the old 357mag load from a 4" barrel. Out of full size Glocks. Modern 357 magnum is faster out of 4 inch and even faster out of 5" comparable barrels. Leaving the sig 200fps behind. More in some loadings.The 357 sig is a replica of a kneecapped 357 magnum. When it comes to bullet design the 357 magnum again makes a huge leap. Add to that the velocity of the heavier bullets offered in 357 magnum and this becomes less a conversation and more a realization for you that the 357 sig is just hot 9mm often within 100fos from the 9mm load and considering the sig bullets are designed to eat up more energy to complete opening on initial exchange it's a complete wash. 357 sig is a meme.
>>64951856>you were technically wrongNo, you're just dumb.
>>649518341447 fps 9mm 124g1475 fps 357sig 124gBoth were available from Underwood. There is no different between hot 9mm and 357 sig. None.
>>64951831that's right. I'm genociding you and your kind and there's nothing you can do but mald about your precious 1911 "not being a desert eagle"
>>64951840>I can put a Mac sticker on a PC but that doesn't make it a Mac.False equivalence. Nobody "put a sticker" on that 1911. If Mac made a PC it would be a Mac. Fucking retard
>>64951845>So just because I can put a Ford emblem on a Chevy, does that actually make it a Ford?If FORD made it and put the ford emblem on it, it makes it a Ford
>naming a handgun the same as another handgun makes it a completely different model and function in a different wayNoguns
>>64951884>1447 fps 9mm 124gIn your dreams
>>64951898keep malding, incel
>>64951898
>>64951892>>64951893You're proving my points and not even realizing it.
>>64951902>incelYou seem to be an expert on that subject.
>>64951909>he's so stupid he doesn't get that it's a desert eagle if the company that owns the name says soYou lose. The Deagle 1911 is a Deagle and you are a nobody on the internet claiming otherwise.
>>64951916>n-no u!Classic malding. Can't even come up with anything witty. Too much finasteride I'm guessing.
>>64951899It sucks when someone tells you your pet caliber is a lie. But it's true. Deal. 357 sig never made to 357 magnum levels. And while the sig was always just a hot 9mm with a bullshit name the original 9mm caught up. There just isn't any significant difference between 357 sig and hot 9mm. It's nice to take a deep shit all over your retard moment.
>>64951909>You're proving my points wrongftfy
>>64951888>jew getting 888 tripsMost ironic trips ever.
>>64951899Even 9mm xtps do 1300 and that's not even top end hot ammo.
>>64951919>>64951921>>64951926OK.
>>64951844He's a washed up paper shooter. Who cares?
>>64951941>paper shooterDo you want him to shoot people instead?
>>64951943
>>64951943He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would hang around if violence was on the table. Not if it's a man anyway.
>>64951934Underwood does have the +P+ which is an overpressure load, and shooting them regularly is a bad idea (just convert the gun to 357 sig?). They claim 1300 fps with 124 gr hollow point, which is bananas. This is not a typical "hot 9mm", it's far over the pressure limit. In 357 they claim 1475 fps with same bullets, without any warnings.>not even top end hot ammoThis is only 124gr I see in +P+ right now, they did more?And finally here comes Bubba, sharing his pissing hot loads. This would be on a similar level of reckless.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf7k9DK6Hx0
He fixed my pistol grip is what he did! He was a great competition shooter ! And in this general Ben Stoeger is a hero! End of story!
>>64951959This, best handgun shooting channel on YouTube
>>64951955You have never built or assembled a pistol have you? Tell me the difference between the gen 3 full frame 357 sig, .40 and 9mm. Now tell me the difference in the construction and dimensions of the barrels and chambers.Do you know the standard 357 sig sammi pressure? How about the 9mm + and +p+?There is no difference in danger or wear between shooting hot 9mm out of a full size gen 3 Glock or the 357 barrel. None. Actually one could argue you are safer with the 9mm barrel and chamber...
If I wanted a holster just for conceal carry of my Glock 19 for the summer which one should I get https://www.jmcustomkydex.com/c/QS-AIWB-Holsters.html
>>64951978Get a holster that is also suitable for 4:00 carry instead of dedicated to AIWB and not well suited for that. You will likely find situations where AIWB is impractical and a holster that is too AIWB-centric will suck at 4:00.
>>64951973That is a good point, with 40->9 conversions especially. Still, there is going to be a pressure limit, and more case capacity would still give more fps. It's just, if you regularly shoot, will you actually bother with loading 9mm to its limit, vs shooting in 357 cases what is considered a moderate load (still slightly higher fps than 9mm major).
>>64949406That’s because your only engagement with them in based on consumption. Join USPSA/IDPA/a local outlaw match and learn to shoot one gun extremely well.
>>64951796>YWNBARDETranny
>>64951964Youth is idolizing Ben because he’s the better shooterMaturity is realizing Joel is the better teacher
youth is idolizing Ben Stoeger because he’s a fantastic shooter and instructoradulthood is idolizing Ben Stoeger because he does all this and also puts retarded foids in their place
>>64952060I like the clips of Ben and Joel classes but I cannot sit down and watch a Joel video for more than a few minutes
Youth is idolizing Ben StoegerAdulthood is hitting "do not recommend this channel" on every guntuber video
>>64952060>having to use the special chudsite version
>>64952105Real.
>>64952060>Give some advice>Woman instantly resorts to ad hominem
>>64951841Make the trigger longer and add the stippling texture everywhere else.>>64952060This is why you shouldn't interact with foids on the internet especially when they're playing pretend with your hobby. Gatekeep that shit hard and give them no attention. They will weaponize any they get against you to keep it going.
>>64951943>>64951951Gave me a good laugh
fuck it, I'm screenshotting this
>>64946894Flat mag PPK is so compact that it’s barely larger than an iPhone SE Tell me why again this is bad for EDC?>>64947496I’ve forgotten how to shoot with two hands, Halp
>>64952221I'm down for trying to CC my PPK but I just don't want to spend the money on another holster or two.Also my Glock 26 and 638 do the job just fine, along with my Shield+ and P365
>>64950675So use EHPs like Lehigh or G9, 5head
>>64950752>dear internet pls peer pressure me into a decisionUse the Mecgar metal mags and try growing some testicles
>>64951701>he doesn't know about the custom 10mm conversionngmi
>>64952221Probably just because it is 900 dollars when you can get an LCP Max for 250 and have more rounds in a mag. Aside from that, yeah PPK is pretty nice and stylish as hell.
Nobody in QTDDTOT answered, who makes the best aftermarket P320 slides?>inb4 kys filthy siggerIt's MY gunsooming habit and I get to choose the drain to flush my money down
to be clear looking for something like picrel in the Compact or Carry size, Grey Ghost?
>>64952238It was an attempt at humor. Mecgar loses a point because of you so now Glock brand is solidly in the lead.
>>64952233TBF a 10$ Blackhawk holster works just as good except it might scratch finishFlat mag is really the peak minmax>>64952026What again are the competitions that make good use of one hand?
>>64952221Lock the slide back.
>>64951842Came to post this
>>64952281>flat magfuck that, I am exclusively pinky mag
>>64952270sig, probably
>>64950649It's disappointingly snappy as well considering the weak round and bulk of the pistol. You'd think the Beretta barrel design would mitigate the recoil somewhat but nah. Also depressingly low capacity, you can get nearly the same full power 9mm into a CZ P10S for similar SAWC
>>64949406Well just keep them around to at least exercise your 2A rightsYou could downsize but that's just something you'll regret.
>>64952233Get one of those suede desantis holsters and say goodbye to your finish.
>>64950864Can I still carry a snubnose .38 for noir detective larping?
A part of me really does want a USP 9 even though my USP 45 is great
>>64950890By the numbers .22 is the second deadliest round in the US after 9mm"Muh capacity and shot placement" fags always curiously quiet about that bit
>>64952307Same. I don't want to get my .45 milled for an optic.
>>64952291>aftermarket
>>64952060>she dredged up the PRI video out of desperationThat one is such a treasure trove of hilarious quotes >I will not stop screaming until you admit I invented logic!>You cant fuck me around at all>Say it and you have it!>>64952221>why again this is bad for EDC?Because it would get filtered by automotive glass, vehicular doors, hardwood, drywall, bodyfat, et cetera>Buffalo BoreHaving fewer than 10 rounds of that is still suboptimal in the Big 26>>64952277NTA but enjoy getting capacity mogged by everyone else
>>64952318He wants to get kilt innastreetz that's on him
>>64952308Honestly if I had to be stuck with a single caliber forever I wouldn't be unhappy with .22. Cheap ammo, easy to store, everyone makes guns that chamber .22, a lot of the cool/iconic guns have clones or training variants in .22, FRTs out the ass, effectively no recoil, suppresses really nicely. Would suck to hunt anything but small game with, but there is that one legendary bear kill done with a .22 so I guess anything's possible.Gotta get me a TX22 one of these days just to slap an FRT in it for maximum silly fun.
>>64952318Mecgar doesn't even make mags for the one I have. I get capacity mogged by revolvers.
>>64952267Admittedly yeahBut the ergonomics are incredibly nice and there’s no potential for Glock leg>>64952318YeahThat’s why I keep the bulldog in my car w some hardcasts. A high-low strategy if you will.>Buffalo bore They’re unpleasant in a flat mag. I’m running the steel cored 32 Czech communist ammo rn. I thought it was trash but it’s very accurate. PPK is mostly just a mugger away spray tho. Whatever. It’s been my carry in out of state tripsz
It's time for bed, a good night to everyone!>>64952322>>64952326How unfortunate!>>64952369>potential for Glock legNot a concern for individuals who are safe around firearms>high-low strategySo two pistols in mutual compensation for a theoretical sum equivalent to one good pistol>32 Czech communist ammoI hope you mean Sellier & Bellot manufactured in the current century, pardner
>>64952418>one goodSpecialization arguably makes them better at their niche than one that tries to do both.> safe around firearmsI tried jumping across a creek during my break. Was successful but since it was on my appendix the beavertale of my gum gouged me in the belly.I wouldn’t try that in a condition 0 striker.> Sellier & BellotModern is good. It’s the hottest 32 outside of Buffalo bore but I ran the state security 32 from the 80s. It’s oil proof and water sealed, it’s very accurate and it has steel cored rounds. It’s also very cheap .
I've been looking at 2011s/DS 1911s out of curiosity and I can't comprehend how people are willing to carry some of the compact models. Is it not insane to be walking around with a $2000+ carry piece or am I simply too poor to understand? Maybe a little bit of both?
>>64952473You must do what you feel is right of course>32 from the 80s>steel cored rounds. It’s also very cheapI wasn't aware the Soviets manufactured souped up .32 ACP! Nice find
>>64952513pretty sure the Prodigy Compact and other small 2011s are meant for IDPA where size and weight limits exist >do people reallyit's like a fancy watch, people drop alot of money on watches that don't tell time better than a 50 dollar one. Some people drop alot of money on guns that don't really do anything better than a 500-800 dollar gun
Hey guys, I'm getting a bonus soon, should I buy a manurhin 3inch or pay onto my credit card balance
>>64952626>pay your debtsor>be FrenchYou really have to ask?
>>64952631Don't French revolvers attract French women (not hairy)?
>>64952637So does a low IQ or an Italian accent, what of it?
>>64952290Flat is better for minmaxing size. I got a x grip adapter to let me use the PPKS flat mag instead of pinky extender to minmax capacity for my 380I’d pinky grip if using buffalo bore though >>64952538Czech communists Aim surplus and other places sell it cheap
I'm being indecisive, I realized theres a metal frame 9mm hole in my collection and I want one to larp with in a shoulder rig. I've looked at either a Beretta 92 variant, a sig 226 mk25 or maybe an Arex zero 1 (i like metal sigs sue me) or maybe even some Cz 75 derivative. Having mounting options is a nice bonus but not a dealbreaker. What would be the best buy do you guys think?
>>64952686How much can you spend?
>>64952658Im fond of flush mags too. I hate the extendo grips on my 20x and they don't make flush mags for some reason. . .
>>64952691That sig is topping out what id be willing to shell out for a handgun so like ~1300 is topping out what id be willing to spend on a single handgun, It would have to be really nice to justify more than that.
>>64952709A Sig isn't $1,300 nice so probably scratch him off the list
>>64952709Then beretta or cz, and I would perfer a beretta because of ltt favoritism
>>64952686I’ve been wanting a shoulder holster too. I’ve also been thinking it’s time for a beretta. You should look at what holsters are available those guns because it might change your mind which one to get.
>>64952724Fair, thats why im considering the arex, Slovenian sig clone for a much more reasonable price with, from all that I can see, comparible performance to a 226. Only thing that makes me hesitate is the very limited aftermarket/accessory support since its not a 1:1 clone and arex reducing a lot of thier US imports in the last few years, including mags.
>>64952741Good point, any idea on a good one? Seems like every manufacturer makes a shoulder holster with varying quality levels/reviews.
>>64952751I only barely looked. It’s not going to be cheap.
>>64952700Still wonder if a bobcat is worth it>>64952637>>64952639>be new grad student w French lady postdoc (she actually pretty) as mentor>she keeps telling “jokes” about fucking my ass. >bsodIt was probably just a bully the overly proper and sensitive twink routine but it’s odd how women are allowed to cross lines men can’t.Also, bet guns, even a Manurhin would probably horrify French women.
>>64947533Looks completely fine.I like the P2000 in the back more.
>>64949232>trigger bar has an extra cut in itWell, fuck. That's another $50 to this upgrade.
>>64952782if you get it during the rebate, its worth. The 20x is so much better than the 21A. If they would just sell flush mags, it would be perfect.
>>64951840apple, the company that owns make, actually did use the pc chipset in a generation of its computers, and did indeed call them macs. you're not going to win this.
>>64951955apparently british standard ammo used to be around there somewhere. this was before commies cut off their balls.
>>64952233stick it down the front of your pants and leave the fly open.
>>64952880Please stop talking about ball cutting
>>64952884
>>64952849Is there any point in beretta bucks if I likely won’t buy another modern retra?
Should I buy her? It's leftover (new, never shot) from Italian secret service. They also offer PX4 for even cheaper but I am Honkler and Kek guy. Already have USP
>>64952686Jump on the 2011 train my guy
>>64952724What comp is that?
>>64952972How much for both? Is the PX4 compact?
The groups on my beretta have opened up significantly at 25 yards, Barrel has been ported by magnaport and flush cut&crowned via LTTAlready checked torque on plate and dotI think I'm somewhere between 3 and 5k round through it. Anyone got any ideas what it could be?
>>64952513Some do, but very few. First of all very few want to spend thousands on a pistol, secondly most people just pick something smaller and lighter because it's easier to carry consistently. And then there's the factor that many believe their carry gun will disappear into evidence if they ever have to use it or it gets confiscated for any reason, so they want something relatively cheap and easy to replace.
>>649530952011s unfortunately do not tickle my pickle anon. Besides, the good ones start at like 1.5k and I dont think I'd want to trust carrying a cheap one.
>>64953124Either its a mod or you had a bad day because you shouldnt be burning out even a Taurus barrel with that round count
>Range owner shows me how to relax my grip on my gun>Teaches me to breathe and pull the trigger at the bottom of my exhale>Taught me to slack my shoulders instead of going in like a turtle>Shots no longer pull bottom leftThank you Jesse you are my greatest ally
>>64952513Conspicuous consumption>it's concealed nobody will see itNever said these people were smart
>>64953133A beater LE tradein G26 is all basically any civilian needs but consoomers need to fill the void in their lives with something
>>64952626>in credit card debt>asks 4channellers if he should go deeper into debt to buy another needless trinketYou are spiritually a nigger.
>>64952626>having a credit card balanceGet the fuck out
>>64952972P8 is sexier but go ahead and buy this one too
>>64952972Hell yeah.
>>64953329>the good ones start at like 1.5k and I dont think I'd want to trust carrying a cheap one.Even the nice ones have reliability issues. Our resident nighthawk fanboy has sent one of his $3,000 pistols back multiple times and they've failed to fix the issue. They are really nice to look at and shoot I wouldn't carry one when full reliability is basically a foregone conclusion with just about any mid tier plastic strikerslop. Even my >HS Produkthellcat econobox micro 9 has been 100% reliable and I'm closing on 1000 rounds through it. Now it's no satisfying range toy, but that's secondary when it's vanishingly unlikely that if I ever *did* have to use it, it would be outside of 10 yards.
>>64953445NTA (that anon should pay his CC) but I get 2% on a card and always buy guns with it. I pay it off like a response adult but CCs can have advantages.
>>64953467You think the anon that is carrying debt does that?
>>64953488Probably not but that's what he should strive to do.
>>64953329>>64953461A used STI can go for 1200 and the LFA Apollo is genuinely decent for 800
>>64953467>NTA, but doing somethig entirely different can have advantages.No shit, Sherlock.
>>64953467What does that have to do with carrying a balance, dumbass?
>>64953521>>64953529
Does anyone know of any grips for K/L frames that are set up like the way Taurus does model 85 grips, so the boot grip style fully flush with the frame at the bottom, but with the cushion on the back?
>>64953467I get three percent on mine every time I buy a gun. I love cash back cards.
Supposed to be recommending a friend a light for his glock 19, but I've never used one (as he knows). Anyone able to say what would work?
>>64953682TLR-7
>>64953664What card?
>>64953697American Express Blue Everyday. No annual fee and you get 3% back on US based online retailers and Midway, PSA, and a ton of other online gun stores count. You also get 3% for supermarkets and Amazon purchases since it is an Online US retailer, which is pretty nice. It's my of my most used card aside from my Capital One Savior which is for drive throughs and pizza because I am a lardass.
>>64953727Hmm I'll have to consider it.>because I am a lardassSame lol
On the subject of 2011s, Staccato C2 or DWX Compact? Got trade offers for these two, never had a 1911/2011 before and I'm kinda interested. Both are optics ready but I have a cheap dpp footprint dot lying around that I'd be able to throw right onto the Staccato, the DWX would need a plate and another optic.I have smaller hands so I feel like I might prefer the DWX's slimmer grip but I've tried a couple other Staccatos and liked them and they were a couple full size models. Plus if I end up not liking it or getting bored of it the Staccato would probably be easier to sell off. I'd stop by a shop and fingerfuck both if I could but I don't think any shops around me have either.
>>64953365Kinda what I was figuring, gonna try different ammo weights other than 115, was out yesterday and me and friend grouped it at 25 both standing and using a rest. Snapped a unmolested barrel just in case., if it turns out its the barrel ill try swapping locking blocks on the ported one before I give up on it
>>64953795I have the full size of both of these. DWX is more "unique" in a good way and a bad way. Spare parts you're at the mercy of their support team which is lacking. But it does make it cooler and more unique. Both guns are reliable, and have great triggers.The Staccato optic footprint is better imo but Impact Machine makes some for the DWX. The DWX does indeed have a slimmer grip which is nice, similar to the CZ. The Staccato isn't really offensive imo but it's more in line with most handguns.Staccato is probably going to keep value longer and have better customer service. Both in terms of responsiveness and what they're willing to cover.
>>64951841:(
>>64953960Didn't think of parts availability, I guess that would be the biggest caveat. The hipster in me kinda yearns for what essentially seems to be a cracked out 1911 slide on a shadow frame but the Staccato is probably the more logical choice, thanks for the insight
When are Gen 4 patents up so clones can start using the Gen 4 mag release, like 2030?
>>64954015>clones can start using the Gen 4It'll be Gen 3 for life.
>>64954035What makes Gen 3s so popular as opposed to older Gen 1s/2s or the newer 4s/5s? Was it really that much of a step up from the earlier models, and are the newer ones just not that big of an improvement over the 3s? I don't know shit about the different generations but I see Gen 3 get brought up a lot.
>>64954012The DWX is still 1911/2011 style internals for the trigger, the barrel is a linkless P220 style barrel, the only CZ thing about is the magazines. It’s funny how all the guns that “solve” the 2011’s issues came too late as the 2011 now has >cheap good mags >reliable magazines >budget and mid tier guns available
>>64952746The Arex is a copy of the CZ99 which is only partially copied from a P226, so ya not a clone and no parts interchangeability but essentially the same thingI think what you most need to know about Arex is that the grips are really fat, and there's nothing you can do to slim or shrink them, unlike a P226 that can get very small indeed with E2 grips, if need be. For me the Arex is usable but not comfortable. P226 feels wonderful. Also Beretta, which can also have tiny grip size if needed or bulked up as big as you want, much more flexible>>64953098PMM>>64952972Do those have the euro pattern mags that the Swiss ones do? If so you will never find spare mags, outside of Simpson Ltd or similar (until they run out, then gone forever). US mags don't fit euro pattern guns afaik, bodies are a different size
>>64954085Unironically the answer is California
>>64954085>What makes Gen 3s so popularFor a number of decades, they were the generation exempted from California's bans. Glock kept them in production to retain market share in the world's fifth largest economy>that much of a step up from the earlier modelsNot really. Neither "Gen3" nor "Gen2" ever appeared on slides because the manufacturer considered them mere updates rather than separate models to be distinguished. The attitude about this changed during Glock's relationship with the Ministry of Defense. The "Gen4" engravings were to signify that theirs was a product of the 21st CenturyWith every patents that expires, the designs becomes more prolific. The Gen3 standard pervades the polymer-framed striker pistol market same way the AR-15 does with automatic carbines
>>64954245Maybe one day I'll get a Gen 3 of some kind.
>>64950484>I have ligma and shoot with corrective safety glasses. But I heard, at least for some people, it doesn't help. Did you try glasses? Ashperic lens sights? Red/green/amber all bloom? Did you test all out any of that at the brightly lot outdoor range?I wear glasses for work, but generally do not consistently wear glasses. Even the "dont worry bro, this prescription will fix your astigtardation bro, trust me bro, just buy my fuckin glasses bro dont worry bro itll work bro" prescription I have turns even a 1moa dot into at best a crooked hourglass shape. Even acogs without the fiber optic completely taped over are too bright and blown out for me to see.
>>64950484>>64954278fucking character limitThe closest I can get to a red dot working for me and looking clear is a 1moa dot on the lowest perceptible brightness setting in conjunction with looking through a rear sight with the smaller "muh accuracy" aperture with my glasses. But for the same reason I dont want to edc an overly riced out gucci gun with custom spring weights and custom loaded ammo and not know how to shoot a basic gun in a more realistic scenario, I dont want to rely on only being able to shoot with specific shit on the gun and in specific controlled circumstances for my ar I can put the red smudge over the steel target and hit it, but even with my glasses- the few red dots on friends pistols I've looked through or shot look way too big or fucked up for me to even be the same speed let alone faster than just using pistol irons. I looked through one once, I dont remember if it was vortex or holoshit or what, but the entire fucking window looked red to me and only until I held a magpul rear sight in my hand and looked through it did I see any semblance of a dot
>>64954265There's no rush, it's going to be quite some time before there's a pistol optic Gen3 option that isn't from a disreputable manufacturer [Ruger and PSA]
>Springpiss GripZonewhy
>>64954328So their customers know where to hold it
>>64954284I'm sorry, anon, this ligma is terminal, you just have to use iron sights. Maybe seeall sight could work, it's a black reticle with fiber optic lit background.
>>64954308I have a Glock 17 Classic, the whole Gen 5 suite, and a Gen 4 Glock 19.I'm kind of good to go with Glocks and thus any other Glock in 9mm would be for collector's sake.
>>64954445>No 34, 47 or 49Streets status: killed in the
>>64954445Souka, I suppose the most collectible Glocks will be the ones in dead/dying calibres such as .357 Sig :)
>>64954308>Ruger and PSAWhat problems do they have? I know Ruger oscillates between making cool things and doing really gay shit, but are they company issues or issues with specific models?
>>64954531Ruger's QC lapses too often and PSA is worse. Sure, they'll make it right eventually but the RMA will evaporate the cost savings unless you consider your own time as being worth $0
>>64946894cool video about calibers vs frying panshttp://x.com/josh_uglyasf/status/2028603956071456961I tried making a webm but its 10mb
>>64954595Here you go buddy, first one's free.
I just deal with the ligma smear its still better than irons
>>64954620>Almost injures themselves on the first shotBased retards
I have a question but I'm waiting for the next thread
>>64954687Well you can create one with an advance payment of post a gun in the OP
>>64954620Better than ballistic gel
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