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I want to buy a desert eagle.
>>64966570What's stopping you?
>>64966582Going to the lgs and asking them to order it. Probably have it by the end of the month. I'll fire it seven times, take 100 pics of it, and then break it out four times a year from then on.Also I really like that Walther.
Are LOK grips worth it?
>>64966582>chowdainconceivable disappointment
>[Safety squints required]
>>64966599Which Deagle you going for? There are like a hundred different combos in finish, caliber, and model.
>>64966527>jiggle
>>64966599>Going to the lgs and asking them to order it.Big dumb. You will massively overpay. Troll gunbroker for deals or wait for a sale online.
>>64966603I have some on my 92FS and the difference is night and day. Cannot recommend enough
>>64966618fiddy. stainless.
>>64966642Brushed or polished?
>>64966599Why wouldn't you bargainhunt online? Also thanks>>64966603Yes. I haven't tried the veloce pattern but their regular checkering is fantastic and fit has always been superb
>>64966630This. The goal is to not be the guy custom ordering it unless you have the money, in which case you’d have already done so… the goal is to buy one from someone who bought it and realized it wasn’t for them…. That’s how I got my 460 x frame…
>>64966693Word. Got my S&W 500 magnum for almost half price off Gunbroker.
Man I need to really get to upgrading my Glock 17 and 26 Gen 5s with some trijicon sightsAlso need a PPK holster and more mags
>>64966599>I'll fire it seven times, take 100 pics of it, and then break it out four times a year from then on.As it should be, goddamnit!
>>64966633>>64966663Cool thanks!
>>64966608Bros I’m tempted to get a 26X instead of a 43x. I love the slimlines but having the magazine logistics between all my Glocks seems like a real boon
>>64966570My local gun store had a tiger stripped one pre COVID for 1650. I still regret not buying it
>>64966856>1650that's fucking sick. Idk if stripes are my jam but that's a great price.
>>64966860Killer price right? I really wish I bought it. I bought a Colt Custom Shop 1911 over it.
>>64966856>1650
>>64966838You likely won't share many mags outside of an initial short period for the novelty, I'd always go with the gun you like the feel of in your hand the most.
>>64966619Indeed! Great as Nihonjin women are, there should be variety amongst the OP's>>64966714>trijicon sightsThose aren't great TBQH, they don't glow until it's too dark to p id your target>WMLThe tritium lamps are so narrow that your front and rear posts are practically silhouettes when aiming from dark to lightApart from aesthetics, I imagine there are better H-3 options in the Big 26 like perhaps TFX Pro
>>64966663Burt, I had a "But I had breakfast" conversation this morning because of you. Lyman finally dropped the first two of their Sonicores. Gotta call the dealers. I called one and this was the exact convo:>"Hey, so Lyman is releasing their suppressors and you're one of their dealers.">"Is it on our website?">"No, because they just announced they would start shipping them yesterday, and if we want them, we need to contact their dealers. I have the SKU.">"Okay, but are they on their website?">"No, because they are brand new.">"Well, we don't do special orders.">"This isn't a special order, you're one of their partnered dealers.">"What's it called on our website?">"It's not on your site, because you haven't ordered them yet, and I'd like you to order some for me since you're a dealer.">"Well, when they're added to the website we can.">"But you haven't ordered any.">"I'll talk to my manager and get back to you."And then he hung up.
>>64966934It's less about night sights but more just having the "traditional" 3 dot sights.I have Ameriglo sights on my G19 Gen 5 and I think my G19 Gen 4 has the Glock Night sights.The only Glock I intend to keep stock is my 17 Classic
>>64966956lol Some people just don't want to make money. I don't get dealers like that. Guys who leave incoming firearms unopened for 3 days before logging them in. Who list used guns according to sort-by-highest-price on gunbroker. Who act like you're making makework for them to fill out a form.
>>64966966Checked>just having the "traditional" 3 dotI understand, let us know how the Trijicon compares to Ameriglo and the OEM!
Got lucky on this trigger bar install, no need for fitting on this gun. Not sure how much of a pain it would be to take off the frame safety>>64966633>>64966663Probably going to get some one of these days, but dont know which one to get, I feel like with the vertec frame my hands are crowded(?). But I have yet to shoot with that setup only the wrap around
Why are three dot sights a thing? Wouldn't a white line near the tops of the front and rear sights that you can more precisely line up be better for precision shots? What are the best pistol sights for extreme precision?
>>64967034>>64966743I will say that the LOK grips are thin. So you may have to adjust your grip/finger placement after installation. I used to pull on the trigger on my 92 with the pad of my finger but now I use the knuckle
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>>64967048>What are the best pistol sights for extreme precision?
Just got these two.My p2000 has heckler and koch rollmark spelled out. I've never seen that roll mark before
I have a PSA Dagger and when I pull the trigger, it's smooth all the way through and then releases with no change to the trigger pull. I don't really care for that. It kinda hard to tell when it's going to go off when I am trying to shoot at longer ranges and squeeze more slowly. I want there to be a little wall near the end that I have to break to get it to go bang. Is there a trigger that feels like that? Like a definitive spot in the trigger pull that says "break point here" that I can pull to and stage the trigger for those longer range shots.
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>>64967113>>64967133That's awesome, man! Enjoy!
>>64967133I never got Nazi silver but I did get a lot of buffalo coins at 25 bucks an ounce, wish I did when silver was cheaper.
>>64967113It looks like a highpoint
Is this correct? Is it a pain in the ass if I end up not liking the LEM trigger?
>>64967217I'm sure there are a few Youtube videos and HKPro forum guides floating around on how to do it. I used one years ago when I went Match LEM Hybrid. The biggest thing is the date of when your pistol was made as HK revised a couple parts so you might have to buy a new part here or there if your pistol was made before 2003 or something like that.
>>64966603Yes, I just put these on my surplus 85bb today. I went with the less aggressive texture and it still has better grip than the factory plastics. Looks alright too.
>>64966838Why on fuck would you want a 26 slide on a 19 frame anon? Just buy a fucking G19.
>>64966934>they don't glow until it's too dark to p id your targetIt's never too dark to PID a home invader. If there's another man in my home I know he isn't supposed to be there. There is only supposed to be my a small woman and two small children here.
>>64967245Looking at it I think I might be good. It had a safety lever on it so it should be da/sa I believe. I think I'll end up swapping it to a decocker instead of a safety. Idk why the trigger felt weird earlier though. I'll have to fuck with it again before I buy it.
I have a thread but I'm waiting for the next question
>>64967155I said fuck it and decided to buy silver even at current prices.My goal is to hoard at least 1 full pound if possible this year.Silver and ammo are the only serious investments I want to make this year.But man I hate having debt
Am I going to regret not purchasing one of these blue brazilians for $270
>>64967389I regret knowing this exists.
.38 special is still a useful caliber, r-right guys? Also, what long gun would pair best with a Smith and Wesson Model 10? I'm thinking an AR with classic furniture.
I live in brown bear country and I’m looking at a new carry gun to take out hiking. 10mm is nice but I’m stuck on revolvers. My lgs has a Colt Anaconda and a Ruger Toklat for around $1500. It also has a S&W 329 but from what I hear actually shooting it is a pain and the lock on it seems iffy. Is there any of these you guys have experience with? I’d want to practice with whatever I get before summer rolls around so the fact the Ruger can shoot the cheaper 45lc seems like a good deal
>>64967396it really isn't and won't win you any internet points here for carrying a antique the M4 carbine was adopted 40 years ago.
>>64967381You sound like someone who owns PSA guns.
>>64967425you sound like someone who watches rom coms
>>64967309What he tried to say is HK redesigned the hammer, firing pin and other internals. You have to check you have the new style internals before upgrade. Verify it based on your gun's DC. I believe the new ones are after 98-00 but not sure.
>>64967126Are you running a lower poundage disconnector? Anything that makes the pull lighter via geometry will also definitionally make it less crisp. You could also try a heavier or newer striker spring. I don’t know anything about Daggers, but the great majority of Gen 3 trigger systems lower the pull weight (e.g. Zev, Overwatch), and so they make the trigger kinda mushy, I’d stay away from those. You could look in to Apex ones, but those don’t work in Shadow Systems guns, so I have no idea if they’d work in a Dagger. You might be SOL.
>>64967404GP100 with 8 capacity on .357 Mag. Follow up shots are better than trying to eke out more "stoppin powa">>64967396Just get a lever action in .38 spl
>>64967113>>64967133>5RMBased
>>64967155>>64967381Based>>64967425Fool
>>64966527i love me some brett pooperanyone ever take the mag safety out of a hi power before?
>>64967522Nope its totally stock except for the magazine release. I like the weight, I just don't like the lack of a wall to signal the end of travel. I figured that there wouldn't be anything good available, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
>>64967625>find a 220 at lgs with dings, scratches and holster wear on finishoh neat i always wanted one>1100 price tagoh, nevermind
>>64967686>1100That's retarded. Find an LE trade-in one for half or less than that.
Is this just legal CYA shitLike is there any real difference between the "duty" and "training" rounds because if they didn't have the same ballistics they'd be worthless to train with
>>64967743They batches that SGammo sell of “training JHP” ammo usually fail in QC. One batch didn’t meet penetration standards, or sealant was missing, or wrong projectiles used or mixed.
>>64966714How does /k/ feel about Shadow Systems 920s? They're not quite parts interchangeable with glonks but they've got to be better than PSAslop
>>64967797If Glocks are too mainstream for you, just get an M&P 2.0 or PDP bro
>>64966582>>64966599Is it kinda just a Model 59?
>>64967743Its usually stuff that doesnt pass their regular QC and therefore cannot be used to fulfill contracts, stuff that is loaded lighter while still being a JHP (less recoil for training), or a different projectile entirely that is meant to mimic the duty round without being as costly. But carrying a 45 is dumb anyways so do what you will
>>64967389What the unholy PS1 rendered fuck
Ok, so i have a question regarding 9mm projectiles. I know that hollowpoints expand and dump their energy quickly while creating a larger wound channel, but how the fuck does this bullets work? Does it really displace viscera in the channels or is it just a meme?
>>64967396>killed John Lennon>killed Lee Harvey Oswald>killed plenty of greasy dago mobsters up thru the 50s>still a favorite for CCW>pre lock J frames are the benchmark for S O V L.38 is fine
>>64967815Nah it's it's own thing but it borrows from the same mechanical schools of thought as most everyone
>>64967844It jets fluid of the flutes so as long as it is going fast enough, it makes little X shaped wound channels. Its neat and does actually work, but its a little overhyped. It isn't better than a hollow point and some designs have trouble feeding them, but it can't plug up and not work. Its not really worth the cost IMO.
>>64967866Burt, should I get an old S&W Model 10 or the new "Classic" one without the Hillary Hole?>>64967876So it does work, even if it's not super efficient. I bet it would kick some ass out of a .357 mag revolver.
>>64967888Not Burt but I still want to own a classic Model 10 Heavy Barrel. Possibly the most shootable revolver of all time
FDE sucks. Looking at you, Beretta and HK.
>>64967888You would think, but lehigh desn't load them very hot. Underwood loads them pretty hot, but they lie about their velocity so I don't trust them to load to what they advertise.
>>64967404I can definitely recommend the new Anacondas, super smooth triggers and very comfortable to shoot, but there’s two issues stock, the rear sight, which is a roll pin away from a Wilson that doesn’t drift around, and the grip. The grip issue is common on .44 mags regardless of brand that leave the backstrap exposed in that any exposed metal contributes to the sledge hammer effect of shooting the gun a lot, I put a Pachmayr set on mine and it can be shot pretty much indefinitely with full power .44 mag. If you were going to carry it though? Get that 4in Kodiak with the ported barrel, it would probably have about perfect balance judging from mine, which is a little nose heavy, as it should be with a 6in.
>>64967425technically 2 out of my 3 ARs have PSA lowers, yesBut I glocks, berettas, HKs, sigs, smiths, rugers, etc.
>>64967888Too personal, your reasons are your own. I'll say I am enticed by the new classic line, but the bluing isn't as nice as it was even in the 1990s, and you can still find pretty good quality copsurp pretty cheaphttps://www.gunbroker.com/guns-firearms/search/completed?keywords=smith%20wesson%2010-8&pagesize=48&sort=4&view=2&timeframe=1
>>64966603Yes. I have carried a CZ Rami BD for years and tried a bunch of different grips for it. Stock rubbers obviously, Coolhand G10 checkered, Coolhand G10 sunburst, fancy Marschal wood grips, and lastly a set of LOK G10 checkered. I don’t think I’ll ever take the LOKs off. Their texture is way superior to the others and they are quite thin, which helps offset the Rami’s very considerable chunk. Don’t have a good picture yet unfortunately.
>>64966608Just when you thought anon couldn't make a Glock look even worse he outdoes himself again.
>>64967961>I can definitely recommend the new AnacondasYou're the first person I've seen say that since Colt got bought out
>>64968078>one of those guns is exactly what I'm looking for AND the serial number has both my initials and the year I was bornFuck, I wish I could message the buyer because I would pay a pretty penny for that
>>64967302>never too dark to PID a home invaderFair>>64967396>what long gun would pair best with a Smith and Wesson Model 10That would be a Model SP1 [Colt R6000] but you aren't going to find that for less than $2000>>64967415Ackchyually, the M4 Carbine was adopted 32 years ago>>64967666>take the mag safety out of a hi powerMight not be a good idea considering the last three digits of your post number>>64967126>want there to be a little wall near the endThen it's a 5.5lb "connector" that'll you need. I had the same problem with my 4.5 and 3.5 pounder
>>64967625>>64967113gentlemen
>>64968221>Then it's a 5.5lb "connector" that'll you need. I had the same problem with my 4.5 and 3.5 pounderDo I get the regular 5.5 or the 5.5 Dot connector? Whats the difference? Any other recommendations if I am going to replace some parts?
I'm beginning to realize that maybe the Glock 26 might be the best CCW option
>>64968299It really is. I wish I had gotten one before the V and gen 6 BS. Now I don't want to give them money for submitting to karens. Is the Gen 6 an upgrade or downgrade?
>>64968306I hear that the Gen 6 has a flat trigger and better optics mountingI'm interested in a Glock 19 Gen 6 at least
>>64968169nta but I like it. Really wish I got a 26.
>>64968327I want to chop a 19.
LGS has this Remigton "R1 Limited Single Stack" in 9mm. I like the setup. Are these Remi 1911s gud?Also what are the things I should know about owning and shooting a 1911? I want a 9mm 1911 for competition (IPSC Classic) reasons.
Ausfag here. I'm basically handicapped to 10 round mags and full sized pistols only.Looking at picking up my first pistol sometime soonish, don't really know a lot of other guys with pistols to try out, so I've been hovering between an Echelon or a Ronin 1911 in 9mm. Echelon will let me slap on an RMR, Ronin looks cool as fuck to me personally. No point in buying .45 as we can only "compete" with them in metallic silhouette, can't do .45 IPSC
>>64968365Springfield sells optics-ready 1911s. I'd bet they have a Ronin SKU that will let you mount an RMR.If you're capacity-limited and can't carry, I'd definitely go with the 1911 over the Echelon.
>>64968349>Also what are the things I should know about owning and shooting a 1911?taking them apart is convolutedAnd you should only get them in .45 ACP.10mm Colt Delta Elites are the exception
>>64968373Having a look at stores in Aus I'm either stuck getting the slide milled, or buying a DS Prodigy or something else that costs an arm and a leg.Is the Echelon a shit pistol? I've seen nothing but glowing reviews for it. I personally don't want to have my first gun be a race gun/IPSC comp gun, but just have the option for a red dot because pistol irons suck balls.
>>64968405I hear that Echelons are good but a 1911 is a 1911Personally since you're so adamant about 9mm, just get the Echelon
>>64968420It's less about being adamant about it, more about it being the only thing we're realistically "allowed" to shoot in Aus. I can get a .45 but I can practically only shoot it at one range in Brisbane, for one event, or at a farm if I know somebody who owns property, and I'm an autist recluse.
What are some good options for irons upgrades on a 92? Not sure if it's placebo or not but I feel like I have an easier time drawing, aiming, and lining up my sights on my 229 with the X-RAY3 sights.
>>64968187Different anon, but I have two, I like them quite a bit. First one I put Nils grips on, it's a 6" and very solid, and handles spicy 44 very well. Second one is a bead blasted 4", with wooden grips and exposed back strap. It's fun, but holy fuck it can bite after a solid range trip.
>>64967888CheckedOld good new badToo little too late @S&W
>>64968187CZ > nuColt
>>64968299Too bulky and outdated. Go 43 or Shield Plus instead
>>64968280
>>64968642Wilson Combat has a bunch of options, and they charge a normal priceI think Dawson Precision has some as well
Its a range trip and raising canes afterwards weekend boys.
>>64967743What I would do is buy the white box bulk for training then have a couple full color 50 round boxes of the LE stuff that should last you years if you only have 1-2 mags loaded at a time.
>>64968987I should've brought my guns. Range right down the road from my work and I havent been in a bit.
>>64968987Based.>>64968998Cringe.
Are modern Colt 1911 worth it? Never bought one before and want a 1911
>>64969055Was looking at a cheaper version too
Should I go to the regular outdoor range today, or try the new indoor one? It's some crab leg place, Dave and Buster's vibe from the photos I saw online.
>>64969057I've heard good things about the Ronin, like I said earlier I was looking at getting one.Springfield make good cheap 1911's. Personally I'm finding I am absolutely dogshit with pistol irons though, so I'm sticking to buying optics ready guns, and as a new pistol owner, I'm not keen on shelling out 2k AUD just for a 1911 with an optic slide cut.
I don't have a 'Retta handgun yet, but I kinda want one. Debating between a new M9 or a used full size PX4. Both can be had for about the same price. This gun would be purely for funsies (range shooting and just playing with at my desk). I already have metal-frame guns and polyslops, so neither is more novel to me than the other. Which would you get and why?Pic related, it's them.
>>64969126As someone that has shot a lot of Berettas and currently own two, here are my thoughts:1) Get an M9A4. Turn it into the ultimate home defense/range toy. Red dot, suppressor, light etc it is ready to go. 2) The PX4 Compact is perfect for conceal carry. About as easy to carry as a Glock 19 but shoots like a full-size metal handgun thanks to the rotating barrel. Personally, I have the PX4 Compact because I don't like handguns I have difficulty concealing but YMMV
>>64969147Thank you for your insight, Anonymous. The appeal of the 92FS/M9 is retro vibes and media representation. I'd keep it stock. If anything, I might give it a little trigger update. As for the PX4, is the rotating barrel better appreciated on the compact? Would the full size shoot even easier, or is it a case of diminishing returns at that size?
>>64969165I have a stock 92FS Inox and love it. Looks gorgeous, is fun to shoot and feels terrific in the handI don't personally have any interest in the full-size PX4. The appeal of the compact to me is that it's a fantastic CC piece. It's light, DA/SA, very shootable and has a great mag release and decocker that makes carrying and drawing a breeze
>>64968297>Dot connectorThat's OEM for Gen4 onward>Whats the difference?The "dot connector" is narrower because the Gen4 "housing" is narrower. Is it compatible with Gen3 [the Dagger by extension] and an improvement to the trigger "wall" thus the $1.99 premium? Your guess is as good as mine, ganbatte~>>64968424>the only thing we're realistically "allowed" to shoot in AusSad!>>64969147>ultimate home defenseOutclassed by a modified PS90 with an auto resetting trigger
Have eps core hit the stores yet?
>>64969221You have no fucking idea how much I want to abandon everything except my dog and fuck off across the pond and buy a piece of shit PSA AR and magdump into trash.
>>64969258Isn't the entire outback like a shooting range? You're welcome here in the US as long as you're not a petrolsniffer. Just make sure you pick a good state like PA or WV
>>64969287In theory, yes. Plenty of space, police would basically never bother to hang around empty land 2-300km+ away from the nearest city.In practice, you'd have to drive for HOURS to get that far away from civilisation. AND, shooting on public/crown land is a huge nono. Nanny state bullshit.Plus, I can only own 10 round max on pistols and rifles, I have to jump through hoops, suck my own dick AND the dick of any local politicians and the dick of whoever is running the licensing department at the time to own any semi-auto centerfire.It is literally easier to get a american visa than to try and own a gimped as fuck 10 round ar-15 that would cost me 5000 AUD anyway.
I just bought another 2,000 rounds of 9mm. Have you all noticed the ammo inventories drying up over recent months, not getting refilled, and prices starting to rise? Blame Drumpf. China tariffs, war with Iran, and next the reds will get BTFO in the midterms (since the orange fool did the opposite of what he campaigned on).I think within a month the goyim will realize we're in an ammo shortage, but by then it'll be too late for them. Tick tock, /hg/...
>>64969333Nicolas Fuentes said to vote for Kamala in 2024. He has always been a contrarian ankle biter with zero impact, his groyper war did nothing to influence the election. He is a whiny faggot who flip flops because Peter thiel didn’t give him money, he says he’s going to vote democrat and also flee the country back to his beloved Mexico.Right now he’s saying immigration is a dead issue, while fine PATRIOTS like Randy Fine (literally Jewish) is calling for all Muslims to be deported and denaturalized. Republicans are calling for denaturalizing citizens, and you’re black pilling instead of trying to win. Ammo shortage is what it is because how reliant America has become on outside imports for our AMMUNITION and that domestic is prioritizing military contracts due to various conflicts.
>>64966693yeah my local gun store started making some shit up about map pricing because the online stores and used guns from gunbroker were fucking em in the ass.
>>64969402I don't understand how anyone serious about "America First" can follow Nick "the spic" Fuentes, literal faggot who fucks catboys and probably has AIDs. I hate groypers so much.
>>64969419We have Muslims throwing explosive devices, liberals (anti ICE) and Muslims driving cars full of incendiaries into buildings, African Muslims shooting up bars, and this “American First” guy is saying we should all vote democrat to let more in so “eventually” “somebody” is going to rise up and be Hitler some how. The left knows what’s up. You can literally shoot your opponents dead in public. This fucking faggot is saying we should vote for our enemies so we somehow win later after they open the border, let back in all the Haitians and Africans, and put all patriotic politicians in jail Nick was at January 6th literally calling for people to enter the building but never arrested. Interesting, while people who literally weren’t there were prosecuted
>>64969333You follow a literal closeted homosexual that encourages people to vote for gungrabbers because he thinks blackpilled accelerationism is the way that is also compromised by the feds and sold his loyal supporters out on Jan 6th. Fuck off retard no one cares that you're some 20 something bum in a shitty job with no gf.
>>64969440We have illegal immigrants raping kids in highschool, literally in the highschool, and nick is saying we should vote for democrats
At least Brandon Herrera is doing something unlike little nicky, how many zionist republicans has nicky actually destroyed the career of directly?
Can you faggots keep your /pol/ shit in /pol/? Thanks>>64969333>Have you all noticed the ammo inventories drying up over recent months, not getting refilled, and prices starting to rise?No, actually. I can still get a 1000 round case of Blazer for like $220 at my LGS
>>64969402>a jewish man said magic words so I'm going to keep trusting the plan
>>64969484>Do nothing but live in a deep blue shithole and cry about zionist republicansAgain, literal meme guntubers are doing more to dismantle zionism than your pathetic gay spic.
>>64969484>hahah you're the one Falling For It™>sure you won an election and sure the admin is doing literally everything it promised it would, and even some things we didnt even know we wanted >but the closeted homosexual on my computer screen, who counter-signaled the current admin, blatantly glows, and who has no coherent ideology or political beliefs other than black pilling, is counter-signaling so I'm not Falling For It™, you are.
>>64967866What model is the brown gripped gun?Looks sexy
>>64969483Weapons outfitter is saying ammunition distributors are getting cleaned out of bulk pallets (10s of thousand of rounds), many sites still have their current supplies and won’t easily replace it. Fenix Firearms (small time producer) is saying sourcing components is getting hard. SGammo has been trying to “warn” (drive sales) about an upcoming shortage and price increases for over a year about the increased component costs.I hope it’s nothing and people fear mongering makes it worse, like how Oct 7th drove prices despite having to do very little with the supply.
>>64969558>Big ammo sellers are saying that shortages may happen during a Republican presidencyQui bono, mayhaps they want to sell 9mm for 28-30 cpr again because no one's panic buying like its 2020 anymore.
>>64969564That’s what I was hinting at, but I wonder if anyone has checked for government contracts buying up all the ammo, ICE now has a bigger budget than most militaries in the world and probably needs a lot more ammo for training it’s 100k applicants.
>>64967404get a blackhawk 44mag with a barrel 5 inches or less
>>64969531>falling for the theateics... againGoyim moment.>>64969558It's happening.
>>64968349I got a Remington r1 1911 45auto it always goes bang and cycles fine even with shitty magazines
>>64969597So are you a top or bottom? You didn't fall for heterosexuality like a goy did you?
First 25yd group of the day. Walther PDP.
>>64969608Very nice
>>64969608Very nice, Anon! Keep it up!
>>64966726Beautiful
>>64969608Very nice!I'm faffing around with 7 yard range up close trying to improve consistency.
>>64969608I tried 50 feet with my 365 today and I was getting fliers up to 12-18 inches low but I managed some bullseyes and 80% in a fist sized group. I'm a bit rusty haven't been to the range in like a month so I'll probably go back next week to work on that.
>>64969535Walther P88 Compact
>>64969055I would say that particular colt 1911 is worth it, as it has the classic WW1/WW2 roll mark, checkered front strap, beavertail, and modern sights. I think it’s the best looking factory 1911 ever made, but I’ve seen some examples where the rollmark lettering wasn’t done pretty (classic Colt build quality). I think I saw that model at 1090 once. There are way better featured 1911s, like the Kimber Next Gen which had an optic cut, front strap checkering, beaver tail, bob tail, for like 900 dollars.
>>64969685https://battlehawkarmory.com/product/clt-government-45acp-5-limited-edition-blem?source=gundealsThe blemished ones I think is what I saw, probably rejected because the rollmark didn’t turn out perfect 982 dollars
does anyone here has experience with Phoenix handguns ? i just want to know a bit more about the Fusion TA before making a purchase
>>64969738I’ve never seen one out in the wild, but as far as I understand, they’re mostly souped up Tanfoglios. If you’re in America, the Attic in North Dakota imports them all, and they’re a pretty reputable outlet. If you have issues with yours, you can probably go back to them. Pistol-forum has a thread on the Redback/Drake, which you might want to check out.
>>64969458The groyper platform is "destroy America to own the jews". Once you understand that their schizophrenia makes sense. Litrally nothing matters to them to except inconveniencing the jews. They can and will betray their mother country just to make a jew uncomfortable.
>>64969333>I'm going to vote for the explcitly antigun party because the gay mexican told me Trump bad :^(
Why is this little bastard so cool?
>>64969738Like the other anon said the redback and drake are very nice cz derivatives. I've never heard of the fusion ta before but it looks like a copy of the sphinx/kriss sdp, maybe it's a nicer version of that? Interesting.
>>64969333>Stop listening to a weird little spic>Start exercising >Start shooting and carrying 10mm Poof, just like that those things don't matter to you anymore and your life gets better.
>>64969831Valid platform, their only issue is that it's rapidly becoming a (D) position and their memes have a lot of inertia.
>>64969685>way better>like the Kimber
Do the Pig320 uncommanded discharge issues affect the M17/18 or any other model with a frame safety or have any of the reported cases been against a variant with a M17-like safety switch?
>>64967844cavitation
>>64970002The pregen drop issue does not, the mythical sear slip issue that is still denied by Sig, would unfortunately affect safety models, because the safety only blocks trigger travel.
>>64970002Seems to be zero issues with the frame safety models as far as I can tell. There may be some 320s that have sloppy enough tolerances to go off when looked at wrong thanks to early on bad QC but Sig does seem to be trying to at least fix their shit. If you're really weirded out by the 320 just get a 365 Fuse its probably the best polymer option Sig has for a fullsize if you want to carry something.
>>64969999Kimber kinda just. They got good. They used to be meh but ever since they started making revolvers they evolved their precision manufacturing technology or something.
>>64969999The Kimber next gen is probably one of the best optioned 1911s and Humble Shartsman shot 1000 rounds through one on camera with zero malfunctions
>>64970012When Ron Cohen left you mean
>>64970021Unironically I think Kimber/Sig products that Ron Cohen doesn't touch are actually good. Kimber's above Ruger now on the quality totem pole IMO and there's a lot of Sig guns that aren't getting military contracts which seem to be a cut above the Sigslop people usually shit on.
>>64970021Yeah, I'm sure that's a coincidence, but they did step up right around that time, when Sig also started their enshittification arc.
>>64967113>>64967133Added the GG srt, hammer strut, trigger. I will probably get rid of this trigger but the strut and srt is amazing
>>64970044Nice
>>64969258>I want to abandon everything>and magdump into trashJust take a flight out to SEA, bro. There you're allowed to play with machine weapons and explosives then it'll be out of your system for good. Incidentally, every Australian I ever encountered here in America was at the shooting range>>64969333>>64969597I'm old enough to remember there being ammo crises before either of Trump's terms.>>64969608>flier from recoil anticipationI know that feel>>64969926>coolWell, it's probably better than the P365 anyway>>64969455>Brandon HerreraAfter the thirty-one thousand twats that voted for AIPAC Tony and the two LOLberts, I worry that there won't be a Gun Tube Congressman this year either>>64970025>Kimber's above Ruger nowThat's a low bar to clear>>64969455>closetedAfter the leaked video of him fellating Destiny? Kek>>64970004The permanent cavitation in particular. Unfortunately, pistols don't have the muzzle velocity it takes to make the temporary stretch cavity relevant in terminal ballistics
>>64970054I already have the 365XL and a 2.0 sport compact. I am pretty satisfied with my handguns but the Bodyguard 2.0 looks like a tight package.
>>64970054You just don’t have the right handguns for cavitation…
>>64970054The 365 is a 9mm and the Bodyguard is a .380, but its like .2 inches thinner than the .365. I may consider one for when I can't wear a thick enough button up to make a 365 a generic shape.
>>64970054I've got a trip to NC planned sometime soonish, I make better money now than I have for a while, so planning to try and set aside 5-6k and travel over to visit a friend staying in NC and shoot some of her dads' stuff and potentially visit a range or two and rent stuff. Hike some places as well, maybe. Camping and shit.But the ideal is to move over. I don't need a whole lot to be happy, and the US aligns more with my politics than this shithole nanny state country.
>>64970071Best of luck on fucking your way into a US citizenship buddy. Spouses of US citizenship basically get a free pass into getting full gun rights and when you get your citizenship you're basically here forever.
>>64969416God forbid they try to offer superior service and advice to attract customers…
>>64967961Do you know offhand if the anaconda and the Kodiak have the same length cylinder?
>>64967404Toklat in 454 is gonna be an absolute fucking blast.. be forwarned if you practice with cheaper 45lc and expect the experience to carry over to 454 casull you are in for a surprise…. Haven’t shot the toklat but I own the shorter barreled Alaskan in 454…
>>64970076I wouldn't go that far with her. Not really interested in high calorie humans. But she's a yank and we're decent friends, so it makes it easier to get the USA experience without getting sheel shocked to kingdom come when I land and have no idea where to go or what to do.But it would be nice to have it land in my lap like one of my buddies who scored a canuck waifu after one fucking visit to Canada.
>>64969165how did you take this picture?
>>64970104They're called go pros
>>64970108how long have you been a pro?
Current CCW
Operation Epic Caniac Fury was a success
>>64970104Secret cameras inside of contact lenses.
Anyone try these sights? I don't trust youtube shills, but they seem kinda cool there is tritium versions too, but I don't like Tritium. North Forest Arms Duel Picture sights. I kinda want to get some for my dagger.
>new product platformsAre they cooking us up something, /hg/? I hope it's not more shotguns.
>>64970325They made a new 22, they have the NARP, they seem to be clearing out stock of the 92X Performance for a new model
>>64970353I hope they bring the NARP to the American market one day.
>>64970325That hideous Jaguar thing
>>64970325Polymer framed 92 please
>>64970453>polymer 92
I just installed a arched mainspring housing on my 1911...never held one before so it was a bit of a gamble but i like how it feels over a flat one :)...also kinda surprised theres not much of a market for these things
>>64969458fucking staceys amirite
>>64970471Well shit, i fucked up After installing the mainspring housing i can pull the trigger and release the hammer without depressing the grip safety....any advice?Ig ill just take it out again and re install
>>64970471>>64970520Im guessing this may be the issue?The "tabs" on the left housing (arched) are alot thicker than the stock one...so i assume its pushing the grip safety in essentially engaging it
>>64970520>improve on the fatal design flaw of a grip safety>wish to have it return to a fucked statetheres a reason why all modern day doublestack 1911/2011 platforms come with no grip safety or the safety pinned down buddy
>>64970534>leftStupid 4chinz always rotating pucs unless u screenshotThe bottom one is the new one....
>>64969818>>64969979thanks, i think i'm gonna get it, if i get my hands on that i'll post about it
>>649705400/10 helpful comment
>>64970534
>>64970534>>64970520you can either fit the grip safety by removing the bottom tab or the mainspring housing to give more pivot for the grip safety. I ran into this before, I fit the mainspring housing.I never looked up which one you were supposed to fit, check "grip safety fitting" or "mainspring housing fitting".
>>64970540>theres a reason why all modern day doublestack 1911/2011 platforms come with no grip safety or the safety pinned down buddyIsn't it because modern day 1911s are geared more towards competitions/raceguns and are thus casequeens/rangequeens? The modern market is after more boutique 1911s and so it isn't concerned with being a duty sidearm for dumb privates or retarded revolver fudd cavalrymen scared about ND'ing while on horseback. Although the thumb safety was added after the grip safety specifically because the cavalrymen were still concerned even with the grip safety existing.
>>64970617>grip safety by removing the bottom tabremoving material on the tab*>>64970623The grip safety only prevents the trigger bow from moving far enough to push the sear off the hammer, the real safety is the manual safety which physically blocks the sear and hammer from moving. The grip safety also acts as an inertia safety to prevent the trigger from pulling itself when dropped muzzle up. But there is a small percentage of people who's hands just simply cannot reliably depress the grip safety so brands have opted to remove the grip safety entirely. I am not sure that the original 1911 didn't have a manual safety, I think that would be retarded since the manual safety does so much more internally than the grip safety. I think it's the other way around, people wanted a grip safety in addition to the manual safety. Anon is wrong since a few 2011s, even high dollar ones, come with function grip safeties.
>discussing grip safeties >in anno domini 2026I wish the 1911 platform would just die. I can appreciate it for what it is, but we've moved on.
>>64970639>The grip safety only prevents the trigger bow from moving far enough to push >I am not sure that the original 1911 didn't have a manual safety, I think that would be retarded since the manual safety does so much more internally than the grip safety. I think it's the other way around, people wanted a grip safety in addition to the manual safety. The original 1911 did have a manual safety, but it was added late into its development. The model 1910 didn't have a grip safety when tested against the Savage, and its predecessors had options for either a grip safety or a different kind of "sight safety" that engaged with the rear sight depressed but those weren't standard. Was reading a bit of Handguns of the World last night just to learn the history of why the army wanted .45 cal in their sidearms and it was in the same section as the 1911's development. Pic related, one of the 1911's predecessors.
>>64970663It will never die because some fine enterprising folks in Texas made it wider to fit more bullets.
>>64970663>but we've moved on.Correct. We have 2011s now.
For me, it's PMC Bronze
Is the next iteration going to be a 2111 or a 3011? Where can we go from here?
>>64970684Neo-space-age-polymer 4011s will be equipped as sidearms for M2 gunners while re-engined B-52s and space destroyer Arleigh Burkes are bombing dirt poor pirate terrorists hiding in the asteroid belt.
>>64970617Thanks for the advice :)
>>64970740If you fit the grip safety, you wouldn’t be able to go back to your old one, so fitting the mainspring housing makes more sense
>>64970696>pirate terrorists hiding in the asteroid beltSounds kino. https://youtu.be/PjxMieuRPe4?si=YTCASXQuEhj3YBfo
>>64970471Going with flat ms housing is one of the worst marketing trends of 1911s. It's surprising that with renewed interest in revolvers and legacy guns like the 1911 that rounded housings aren't a thing. High-dollar custom shops like Wilson or Baer don't even offer one even though they're literally CUSTOM shops.
>>64970773Flat is better, but build to order guns they’ll do whatever you want. Wilson even did a stupid V mainspring housing that was a mix of flat and angled.
>>64970783Flatter are certainly better for handlets. And no, they certainly don't do rounded in build-to-order. As the other anon said, you can barely find a rounded.
>>64970773>>64970783Im>>64970471Like i said ive never held a 1911 with a arched housing.....i just assumed id like it because i like the way my 92fs and m&p .45 feels in my hand....and i do like the way the new housing feels on my 1911
>>64970825I disagree, flat is better. Also flat mainsprings are better. I was able to get Nighthawk to use a Wilson Combat safety so I’m pretty sure made to order. Wilson Combat was moving away from 1911s but they just had a change of management back to a Wilson (family) member. They probably saw that the gravy train of Sig parts isn’t going to sustain them.
>>64970198I saw your prior post when I woke up and it made me sad I don't have friends to go shoot and eat with bro. Fuck this life
>>64970663I regret worshiping it in my earlier years of handgun shooting. The 1911 looks good, feels good, has a great trigger, and is easy to shoot, so it's easy to like them until you try shooting more than two boxes a year through one. Mine jams more than my other guns, and so does my dad's, and several friends' 1911s. I don't care that it has more magazine capacity now, the 1911 inherently can't keep up with modern standards for handgun reliability.
>>64970854Your 1911s weren't made right and or have simple issues to fix like proper extractor tension The original 1911 115 years ago went 6000 rounds without stoppage, it would have went further but they stopped the test there since it was the clear winner, the 92 and P226 only went 1700 and 2200 mean rounds between failures in the XM9 trials.https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/the-trials-of-the-m1911/It is the perfect handgun. It wouldn't have lasted if jammed constantly as people would have you believe.
I should feel confident that mechanically bonded projectiles traveling at 1200 FPS will penetrate automotive glass and stampings but I'm insecure>>64970065>>64970068Fair dinkum>>64970066No pistol* yield a muzzle velocity above 2200 FPS*NFA compliant abominations are not real pistols
>>64970663The 1911 will never die because it can circumnavigate a lot of bullshit and it just fucking works
>>64970910>No pistol* yield a muzzle velocity above 2200 FPSIsn't that exactly what hotter loads of 5.7x28 and 7.5FK do?
>>64970919Lightweight bullets (THV) in common calibres as well.
>>64970910460 xvr and a few other revolvers laugh at your logic…
>>64970809is that one of the new ones?
>>64970951No, it’s an old “large letter” or “billboard” colt 9mm by Heirloom Precision.
>>64970669>high IQ individuals realized thumb safeties were useless on handguns as early as 1906based. If you need a thumb safety, you are a certifiable retard.
>>64970956thanks anon, I know absolutely jack shit about 1911s.
>>64970878I've heard the same excuses for 20 years for why XYZ 1911 doesn't function flawlessly, and in that time, the 1911 has been the only handgun design I've seen get the benefit of such generous excusing of malfunctions. Maybe there really was a secret formula to those early 1911 that made them so much better than anything you can buy today, or maybe the military handgun contracts were just as corrupt in the early 1900s as they are today and the 6,000 rounds thing never happened.
>>64970878And which 1911 can I buy today that will go 6000 rounds without any issues
>>64970977If I were to say under 1000, the Kimber next gen since it has an external extractor which solves a few issues. My Wilson combat has at least 2000 rounds on it and it only malfunctioned once right after I optic cut it, but I blame that on the magazine and PMC JHPs since their OAL is super short. Definitely not Nighthawk 1911s. Unless it’s been back to the shop several times.
>>64970973>maybe the military handgun contracts were just as corrupt in the early 1900s as they are today and the 6,000 rounds thing never happened.Browning's/Colt's design definitely deserved to win (its closest competition was he fucking Luger LMAO), but the 6000 number is definitely bullshit.
>>64970919>>64970930Not without a 10 inch barrel>>64970932>460 xvrOK, there it is. I was wrong
>>64971037>Not without a 10 inch barrelT6B Elite can exceed 2200fps from a PSA Rock. I've never seen 7.5FK break 2100FPS though, presumably it does from longer barrels.
>>64970910There was an anon who broke 2200 with his 9x25mm Dillon Glock using Liberty 50 gr hollow points
>>64971054Even 357 Sig breaks 2200 out of an M&P.
>>64970977Colt 70s series.
>>64971052>>64971056The idea is for velocity to remain at / above 2200 throughout practical pistol range but now I have to go verify the minimum projectile weight to retain ballistic threshold
>>64971089
How do I cope with the fact that most enthusiasts learn to shoot between ages 12-17, and that learning to shoot guns later in life is similar to learning a second language as an adult? It'll never feel natural for people who don't learn until their 20s or later.
>>64971096This guy's best moment was when he shot himself right between the eyes on camera.
>>64971097I was about to say Ben Stoeger’s advice of dry fire dry fire dry fire, but then I remembered that he didn’t touch a gun until he was 18 but had practiced with airsoft guns until he could get real guns since his parents kicked him out because he wanted guns.
All right, the FBI baseline for rifle performance "hydrostatic shock" is 55gr @ 2200 FPS>>64971096>2,223 FPS AVGI take it that chrono is at seven to ten yards
>>64971101
Would the "Seeker & Slabside" – Dual-Over-Under Hand Cannon, Punisher Edition!! be a good first gun?
>>64970464>mUh MeTuLSome people want to reduce weight for more comfortable and convenient carry. In b4 some tired boomer tier response like >durr ur a pussy I carry a 5lb steel full size every day hurrrr
>>6497109799% of what's needed to be a "good gun owner" is just to carry it wherever you can. You don't need to be fucking John Wick to be able to keep your family and even the public safe.
>>64971123>I take it that chrono is at seven to ten yardsSeven :)
>>64971139If I were to conceal carry two of these, I could be quad wielding guns akimbo. I'm surprised nobody else runs this.
>>64971144Go to the gym, pussy. 5lbs ain't shit.
>>64966570if you're gonna do it, buy one in 50 African Eliminator vs the 44 or 357
>>64971097>learning to shoot guns later in life is similar to learning a second language as an adultDo you have one single source to back up that claim?
>>64971006>>64971021To be generous, the .45 ACP they were shooting back in the trials seems to have been underloaded compared to today, where it was pushing a ~230 gr bullet at ~800 fps (this photo I posted earlier >>64970669 has an ammo standard of 14.9 grams and 243 meters/sec, which I suspect is due to chicanery related to the book translating all measurements to metric since it's supposed to be covering Euro and international hadnguns as well) compared to the ~850 fps 230 gr ball ammo you find today. That's on top of M1911s being built to withstand GI use and thus being built on the stouter side in anticipation of all the abuse they could see, as opposed to the more finely tuned (and thus more delicate) 1911s everyone sells today.But the real answer is that the US made over a fucking million of the things during WWII and just stuck with their endless stockpiles (plus spare parts) until the 80s. Here's another photo later in the book, describing Savage having trouble building something that would function reliably with the trial ammo, again described as about 230 gr at 800 fps (15 grams and 244 m/sec).As an aside Luger's .45 submission was the third most promising at the 1907 trials, but they did some fuckshit because the gun didn't function reliably with the trial ammo, it didn't function reliably with the ammo DWM provided themselves, and the propellant DWM recommended their pistol use wasn't readily available stateside. This is despite all participants being told that the guns were supposed to use the army's provided ammo and that said trial anmo could be bought for testing their prototypes. After Savage was proving to be a shitshow DWM was also invited to send 200 guns for field testing (Colt and Savage also provided 200 guns for field tests), but because that's such a low production number for a cartridge the Euros/Krauts didn't really care about they declined.
>>64971154You're a fucking idiot if you think a gun hanging on your belt has anything to do with your fucking mid tier lifts you scrawny dyel faggot
>>64971154Called it. Boomer response>DURRS HEAVY GUN MEAN NUTHIN KIDDO
>>64971200Boomers have done more than you ever will. You should listen to them and learn.
Man, I need to dry fire my M18 more. I shoot it like shit compared to my other guns, even doing DA only pulls on my HK45.
>>64971159My emotions
>>64971144Comfortable and convenient are synonyms.How much weight do you expect to save going from aluminum to polymer?
G9 External Hollow Point 80gr or Underwood Xtreme Defender 90gr? Xtreme 68gr? For either should I go with +p or standard?Will be shooting from a Kahr PM9 and a M&P 9 2.0 compact.
>>64971139Thats only hell of a slide bite sandwich
>>64971273+p shines in longer barrels
I want a 2011 with >classic slide but with dovetail front and optic cut rear, vertical GI serrations >classic Colt roll mark (WW1/WW2) with patent date and center pony >9mm or 10mm>optic cut >bull barrel or compensated barrel >maybe a ball cut stirrup but swoop is fine >enlarged ejection port? >black nitride finish so it can wear in I know how to do everything else but getting the slide is hard, Colt never made a replica gun in 9mm, so I’d have to get one engraved. I was thinking I could do like 10 slides at once and sell the rest, surely there is a market for a 9mm replica slideThanks for reading my blog
>>64971324Or I can skip the wear in process completely and just get it pre worn
>>64971347>pre wornGAY!AY!
>>64971375It is gay. But I want my dream gun (of this month) now and not have to spend years wearing it with a kydex holster
>>64971382>>64971347Their stonewash looks different from holster wear
>>64971393vs before, mild holster wear
I need a small pistol to take kayaking and want it cheap because it could get wet and fucked up. P17 looks to be my best option, anyone have any experience with it?
>>64971393It looks more like a patina(?) but with wear on all the edges I guess I’ll just wear it myself then 50 dollars for black nitriding which is super protective is a steal
>>64971413Love the P17. Love how cheap it is. Cycles subs with a suppressor. Mags are cheap and usually in stock. TX22 is worth the extra over the P17, but if cheap is what you're after there's nothing else decent that compares for $200. Don't pay over $200.
>>64971324>. I was thinking I could do like 10 slides at once and sell the rest, surely there is a market for a 9mm replica slide>bull barrel or compensated barrel >maybe a ball cut stirrup but swoop is fine >enlarged ejection port? theres going to be no market when you are going to be that specific and specialized. buyers are going to ask is this compatible with my barrel? no fuck it.
>>64971413why not a shield plus, friend
>>64971441Cutting for a reverse plug shouldn’t drive away buyers and I’ll still have the bushing slot, but no ball cut. Widened ejection port, some people wouldn’t even notice and for a shooter instead of a replica people will rather have the improved ejection port
>>64971439Yeah it looks like a winner >>64971443It costs twice as much as the kel tec. I already have a p365 for CC
Did that crazy SOB who said he was going to buy an HTX-1 do so?
>>64971482Primary arms restocked it so I canceled my optics planet order and then while I was filing out the primary arms order it went out of stock
>>64971156Just get the three barrel set….
>>64971488I was just reading about how they're doing them in batches, sound like th-->1488
>>64971037In my defense man they’re addicting.Other than 460 and possibly 500 in a light loading, the only other stupidly fast weird cartridges I can think of off the top of my head still don’t break 2200 out of a revolver… they get close…. 22 hornet, 429 de, you can get an x frame in 350 legend…. 343 casull and 357 Bain and Davis are all up there… and other than 22 hornet are moving some serious metal…. Is hydrostatic shock only dependent on velocity? Or does a larger cartridge allow for more energy transfer inducing shock at lower velocities?
>>64971148>SevenNot bad!>>64971189>230 gr at 800 fpsFigures, the .45 ACP at the time was analogous to black powder .44>>64971532>does a larger cartridge allow for more energy transferNot unless it's tumbling, yawing or fragmenting
>>64969221This is a 5.7 right?
>>64969221>>64971603God damn it I did it again. It's really not intentional.
>>64969333My entire adult life there has been one panic after another. This one place raised the price on gold dots the other day while I was about to check out. If only I had placed the order instead of looking to see if they had anything else I wanted.
>>64971603>>64971607
>>64971488YOU'RE A RACIST!!!>>64971603That's an FN Five-seveN chambered in 5.7×28 mm.
>>64969440>so “eventually” “somebody” is going to rise up and be Hitler some howAll of the people too lazy to lift a finger are suddenly going to rise to the occasion, but not right now, they need things to suck even worse before they do that.
>>64971314Ok, I thought that it might be something like that. No real benefit with +p over the standard loads. Now I just need to pick one.
>>64969608Fucking 6 round groups.
>>64969648>comfdot
>>64971566>Figures, the .45 ACP at the time was analogous to black powder .44dudeit's analogous to .45 Long Colt which it was supposed to fucking mimic because that's what the Army wanted. The .45 ACP 230 gr 800-850 FPS load goes back to the .44 Colt Walker pushing a .45 cal bal through a .44 barrel at 1,000 to 1,350 FPS -> .44 Colt Dragoon (850 fps at the low end, 1200 when full 50 gr of powder) -> .45 Long Colt (850 fps) ~ .45 Schofield (800 FPS) -> .45 ACP (800-850 FPS).A .45 Cal Ball has been dropping America's enemies since the 1847.
>>64971770It was specifically copying the downloaded Army version. .45 LC continued to use 40 grains of BP and was fairly stout while the .45 Gov. was loaded at 28 grains.
>>64966527I wish I wasn't in fucking poverty, I want a Delta Elite so bad.
>>64971250>How much weight do you expect to save going from aluminum to polymer?A couple of oz probably. M&P metal is just over 1oz heavier than polymer M&Ps and the 92 has a bulkier frame than an M&P. A couple of oz is a benefit when you're on your feet carrying something for a whole day, and I'm pretty active hiking and stuff unlike most of hg who are sperging from their gamer chairs about how they want the gun to weigh more because it's manlier that way and they're not pussies.
>>64970471>>64970773the answer to "why is this a trend" is almost always the fact that the average gun owner is retarded. They buy their toy, pop off MAYBE 200 rounds a year at <10 yards, then post on facebook about how they're ready for anything.
>>64972453Yeah, dickwaving over weight is dumb, I also think leaving out the importance of a good holster and belt is dumb too. I appendix carry an SP01, but I have a good holster that distributes the weight superbly so it becomes a non-issue even on busier days.
>>64972453>when you're on your feet carrying something for a whole dayNobody thinks about this enough. It's the whole reason why S&W made the "Combat Magnum", which is just a fancy word for 357 with a K-frame. People today think "Combat" means, "durr, made for manly combat." It really means a gun made for someone who may have to engage in armed combat, ie, a police officer that has to carry one all day. Its design intent is for all-day carry, not for manliness.
>>64972453>I'm pretty active hiking and stuff unlike most of hg who are sperging from their gamer chairs about how they want the gun to weigh more because it's manlier that way and they're not pussies.Men have carried steel handguns through the American woodlands and hills for hundreds of years before you were born, don't be a faggot
>>64972468Oh so you think arched mainspring housings are better?
>>64972410RIA makes a 10mm 1911.
IMO gun weight doesn't matter if you have a good belt that basically cinches the gun to your core. No one's going to be seriously fatigued by sub 5 pounds of weight near their hips. A lot of heavier guns are just also simply bigger and bulkier to easily concealing them/drawing them is the issue. I'd love to see some madman make a tungsten frame for a micro compact as that would be a great combination of weight for smoother shooting in a size that almost anyone can carry.
>>64971097Yeah you should probably just give up and sell your guns.
Let me guess, now you retards will believe there's an ammo shortage and you knew all along like a genius goy!
>>64972665Panics cause shortages all the time. Then people run out of money and supply goes back up since they aren't buying it all for no reason.
>>64972665>Fuentcel also dickrides Ben StoegerColor me shocked, you had a single mother childhood didn't you?
>>64972672It's cute how oblivious you are to everything happening so you make up these 1D simplistic rationales, then have rhe ego to share your opinion online as if you had a clue.
>>64972678>coping AND seething
Fatherless behavior from some kid trying to make a big deal out of buying 2000 rounds of 9mm like its a big purchase to him.
>>64972679No you're right, this time is totally different. What's really cute is how defensive you got.
>>64972684For a lot of people this is their first "happening."
>I'm totally getting ahead of the curve of 9mm going back up to 40-50 cpr like in 2020 guys!>Buys 2k like some broke bumlol let me know when you actually make a serious purchase kid.
>>64972717You're right this one is the big one. The sky is finally falling.
>>64969055I bought one last year. The "classic" Government model. Very solid so far. Excellent accuracy. Colt gets alot of hate (some of it deserved) but I think they did improve a bit in the last couple of years.I would still recommend checking the gun in person at the store and check the gun for common defects, etc.
>>64972678NTA, but Ben Stoeger is one of very few good sources of information in the ocean of bullshit that is the training industry. If you can't watch his videos without crying and shitting your pants, Joel Park and Hwansik Kim are great too.
>>64972410Be less poor skrub
>another retard panic on the horizon all this means to me is that I can shoot my 357 sig without feeling like I'm setting my money on fire. I was getting sick of 9x19 anyway.
What commercially available comp would best approximate the RE8 LEMI mod? Agency or Faxon?
>>64972724Everyone can see that you have no understanding of the situation so you resorted to moving your goal post to just screeching that I'm poor. You're pathetic really.
Forgor pic
>>64972748I buy 2k of 9mm multiple times a year.
>>64972748Should have bought 2000 rounds of 5.56 instead.
>>64967396Mini-14 and .38 is fine just throw in some hollow points
>>64972743Neither, really. Capcom has been going out of their way to make it hard for us, lately.
>>64972727>I would still recommend checking the gun in person at the store and check the gun for common defects, etc.>common defectsImagine not being able to consistently manufacture a gun that was designed in 1907. The 1911 scene is so fucked lmao.
ausfag again.Expanded my look into pistols for IPSC, Echelon still on the cards, anybody had any experiences with the M&P9 2.0 Metal? We can only get the extended barrel versions with the comps or just plain threaded barrels, but it runs about 2k AUD and reviews seem to be stellar.Plus, metal frame sounds dope to me. Polymer pistols feel like shit.
>>64972778>Polymer pistols feel like shit.nogunz detected
>>64972787Nopistols, yes. Unfortunately my nanny state decides I have to wait 6 months to have a CHANCE to apply for maybe getting the ability to apply to buy a handgun. I've shot a decent amount for work though, and I own a .243 bolt action.If I could pop down to a shop and buy any old pistol with a 5 minute wait and a NICS form, I'd own a shit ton more of everything, but because the process is so punishing, I'd rather not buy something I'm not a huge fan of and have to wait nearly a year for the next one.
>>64972791Or you could have simply not responded to obvious bait from a troll.
>>64972760Looks like the Armory Craft one is kinda close (maybe). Rival Arms might have something. Or I could just cop out with the basic bitch PMM
>>64972796I'm autistic and retarded, gimme a break.
>>64972778Well it's definitely not a bad choice, especially for a first gun. Probably better than the echelon considering it's not for carry. From what I can see you can get a cz shadow 2 (optics ready) for a little over 2k and an sp-01 for a good bit less (although idk if you know of someone who can optics cut that one, all I can find are dovetail mounts). They are going to feel a lot more "premium" and solid in your hands, and have nicer triggers, and seem to have a decently big aftermarket there. The polymer grip inserts in the m&p are something I don't love, and I don't know if you can get metal inserts there. But you can get the m&p apex trigger kit if you ever want to make the trigger a lot nicer. Also keep in mind different features like comps etc. may put you in different divisions in IPSC, although I wouldn't worry about that and just get the gun you want and have fun.
>>64972778The polymer frame versions have better grip texture and are softer shooting than aluminium, but not as soft as the newest steel frame versions all else being equal. While not a bad choice in a vacuum, the aluminium frame is the worst choice of those three frame types available
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>>64972941Sweet, my local has the Steel frame one as well for 50$ more, without a comp as well would hopefully put me into duty division for IPSC instead of Open.
>>64972769Most Colt 1911s are to some extent hand-finished. That hand-finishing part unfortunately can lead to some defects. Especially now when most manufacturers hire basically anyone willing to work in those factories, many of them giving zero fucks about the quality of the work they do.Most importantly - You are getting a full steel-framed pistol for ~1000 USD made in USA, so yes, defects can occur when the price is so low.90%+ of the production is fine and will not have any issues. If you want 99%+, then you will have to spend more money on a different brand. Simple as.
>>64972619sybau
>>64972991The steel frame version has two different versions and neither have a built in comp. One has a fluted barrel and ported slide but it’s for weight relief rather than compensation. The only M&P I own personally is the aluminum framed full size (17 round 4.5 inch barrel) Carry Comp version. It’s a good gun and flat shooting but I’m skeptical of if the comp is actually doing anything. I might get a normal slide and threaded barrel for it later.I’ve never shot the steel or polymer ones.
>>64973013Come at me faggot
>>64973019Go post some more made up weight lifts on /fit/ you manosphere consoomer sperglord.
good morning :-)
>>64972991Not bad in comparison to the price of the aluminum one. This is the newest steel version btw with the checkered portion on the side of the steel frame. The older steel one just has some decorative little dots on the frame with no real texture, and the aluminum ones have no texture at all>>64973033MorninWe need to find a comically hueg chinese light/laser to bolt on that
>>64972991>>64972941I wish there was a steel framed compact...and CA compliant.
>>64973105why?
>>64973132Aluminum seems like it wouldn't have the real benefits of a steel framed. I would prefer a steel over a polymer and just deal with the extra Ozs.
>>64973140It's strikerslop though. If you want muh real steal carry something hammer fired.
>>64973132I'll probably just get the polymer. Aluminum just doesn't seem worth the extra cost.
>>64973144Fair point. I should look into hammer fired compacts. I can try the CZ again, but I didn't like the slim slide when I tried it.
>>64973063Yeah for us we don't get the newest stuff you guys get as quickly. Slower market, our government fucking hates ANYTHING firearms related.This is the one I can find for about 2k, and will probably drop 200 on a vortex defender until I can stomach buying a Deltapoint or RMR
deltapoint in 2026 is a mistake
>>64973063>We need to find a comically hueg chinese light/laser to bolt on thatI'll start by checking ebay and wish.com
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>>64970325god i fucking hope it's a 80x in 32 without ernie's grease all over it, i'd even pay more to not own anything associated with langdon tactical
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