Do you hunt and trap animals for food? I want to try wild hog meat.
>>64986273I don't eat wild hog because I'm a coward and is afraid of le parasite or some other jewish inventionwhat's /k/'s hog hunting load? bush cutting slugs?
>>64986273I've been out hunting but encountered nothing within my license. I hope to perform a headshot or a neckshot on a deer with my Zastava M48 either this year or next.I would hunt for feral hogs but I don't live in Texas or Georgia.
>>64987124But prions
>>64986288thirty caliber minimum. Hogs have an inch thick layer of cartilage around their frontal ribcage that will act as armor. You want large caliber and some well trained dogs (or a Toyota).
>>64987416I don't see hawgs that big, car tire sized at most, my 12ga rifled slug looks suspiciously like a boar buster thogot 10 in a box in my pocket, not even in a bandolier, 2 shots 1 kill, head busted open
>>64986288I usually use 5.56. It will kill them but it often wont drop them. If youre using an AR or an equivalent you can make quick follow up shots so that's fine, plus they are often in large groups so you can get several kills. young females taste the best if youre hunting for food, and not just pest control/fun.
Anyone have a link to good videos about how to clean/prep dear? I've never done it before
>>64986273Squirrel is good. Overused comparison but taste and texture similar to pan fried chicken when marinaded.>trap for foodUnless you want to eat raccoon, opossum, skunk, fox, or coyote I don't think we can even trap anything you'd want to eat here. I'll try anything once with few exceptions but I'd be lying if, say, cooking a raccoon didn't scare me in the same way as >>64987124 but with raccoon roundworm and shit like that.
>>64987880Yup. Probably gonna kill some rabbits this weekend.
>>64987124Don't do a head shot you fucking moron. Smaller target, easy to miss. Do a lung shot. You'll barely lose any rib meat and you'll still get the heart
>>64986273No, I like animals and don't want kill to them unless its in survival situation. Wild pigs are only animal I would hunt without guilt given how much they harm they cause.
>>64991427You can be both. I hang out with the squirrels at home. However I also hunt squirrels in the woods on public land. I hunt other kinds of animals yet I check opossum pouches on roadkill when I'm able in case any joeys (I think they're called that?) are still alive so I can get them rehabbed instead of starving; I'm a hunter not a monster. You definitely don't have to be all in on one side. I hunt foxes and coyotes but I'd absolutely be interested in hanging out with some at a local sanctuary or something as I like to learn about these animals; it's not like I hate them. Liking and hunting the same species definitely gives you some strange feelings but I also want to eat and hunt. I separate them between animals near my house (or in a sanctuary or something of course) and totally wild animals in the woods with zero imprinting. No different from someone who likes seeing the local (named) sheep some lady owns that has them sheared for wool crafts. Yet that same person may eat mutton at a restaurant. Or maybe you like to get uo close to and interact wirh the dairy cows at the local farmer's market. You don't eat THOSE cows but we all eat steak.Hell, the MFK guy who records coyote noises for calling hangs out with the pups on his property.
>>64991427Oh also add European Starlings to your list. They're genuinely heartless creatures. They kill native birds for their nests and either kill the young or build a nest over the eggs already there. They also stab each other with their beak like it's a knife. They're not even native. And they're filled with parasites (worms) IME. They're beautiful birds. Very smart. But they're awful and kill anything they want to, mostly native birds, over little things like nesting locations. Even Audubon recommends to kill them. They also tear into buildings and barns causing damage including water damage becuase they're a cliff/hole nesting bird. Under your eaves and at the corners of your siding is where they peck and pry until they get a way in. They tear open gaps in barn walls. They'll even hover and do that work while flying. Like I said, very smart. But awful and destructive to native wildlife and structures.
The worst thing I ever ate was a nutria. Shit was fucking foul.
>>64992123Really? Bad how? Do they stink inside like a groundhog? Skinning one of them is like cutting a fucking cow open with a machete; they reek. Can't imagine how you'd prep the meat to be anywhere near apptizing given the smell. Closest animal I have for comparison.
>>64988117What do you use for rabbit hunting? They're all over my property, and I'm thinking about trying to take some this year but I've never really done small game hunting before and I'm not home consistently enough to feel comfortable with trapping.
>>64993088NTA but a scoped 22 is nice. And the 10/22 has a bunch of new updates including a factory included BX trigger. Literally the only downside is the lawyer text being moved to the receiver.
>>64995198I figured a 22 would be best, thanks for the input.
>>64987416What? The two “pro” boar cullers I know use .223 and 6mm arc respectively. Boars aren’t really that tough . Not in the way big predators are
>>64993088I ass blast them with #4 shot out of a 20 gauge, 21” imp cyl barrel
>>64992123>nutria. Shit was fucking foul.It's not Kosher, anon. Eat Kosher.
>>64995274I second what he says, with a suppressor and CCI subsonic (hollow point). It smacks them like Thors hammer
>>64986273got this recently, I don't hunt as much as I should because I get busy but I'm in this hunting ground within about 50min of leaving home so I'm pretty lucky
>>64987124Shoulder should be diced then pressure cooked, honestly it's nicer and more tender than any other cut, a little like beef cheek
>>64995274It's the 32000+ model series with all the updates btw. If you see one on the rack in person and you don't know for sure, throw the S/N in ruger.com/dataProcess/serialHistory/ and it'll tell you the year it was made and the model. If it doesn't come up then it's probably pre 2015 at latest. I've had 90s ones show up but not late 80s, 80s show up but not 90s, so the system isn't perfect. The newer it is the more likely it shows up.
>>64995423The BX trigger is pretty easy to ID anyway
>>64986273I gotta go to hunters ed and start>look up hog hunting in NJ>ad for some farm in PA comes up where you shoot pigs that were grown and fed on the farmlmao what's the point?>>64986288yeah I'm slightly worried about parasites and prions in wild game>>64987138this
>>64987468are they hard cast? I know the remington "law enforcement" slugs I have are literally the same thing as the cheapest federal hunting slugs. Like same weight and I think the boxes only advertise a 60 fps difference which >can vary based on the barrel length of the gun it was tested in and is well within the variance from one round to the next>>64987880>>64988117I want to go hunt rabbits, not squirrels though. that seems weird to eat squirrels
>>64987124>>64990076based schizo buffalo bore boomer on youtube claims he headshots durr at 100 yards with rifled slugs using just the front bead on a mossberg 500
>>64991427>>64992099>ted's holdover dot youtube dot mp4
>>64995956>hard cast?How do I check? The lead looks kind of dull like it should be, where as the boar buster looks zinc-like
>>64995326isn't all hunting nonkosher? do you bring a jew with you when you hunt to bless the durr?
>>64995343very painterly picture
>>64995967they would probably advertise it on the box
>>64987416I shot a boar about 3 inches under the chin from about 10 yards away with a handloaded 165gr. .308 SST, we were facing head on, just surprised each other on the trail. It knocked his ass down but I shit you not, he staggered back to his feet and I had to put another one between his eyes. I did dress it out to see if the meat was edible. That first bullet didn't even make it to his chest cavity, all the fat and muscle in his neck just caught it, his windpipe was fine too. That made me realize how tough hogs can be, especially head on.
>>64996001this is why the FBI cares about penetration above everything else and why they used bonded soft point rounds for their ARs since bonded bullets penetrate deeper and keep their mass intact longer. it might be worth trying partitions or solids
>>64995956Eat either; I think rabbits lack fat though. I've screwed up rabbit more than once and it was a hair (no pun intended) tougher than I'd like. I'll have to see if I have a good recipe for you, anon.>>64995965I mean yeah that's the best resource I can think of that shows how terrible they are. But reading the Audubon page about them tells you it's no exaggeration they're awful birds. I've also had personal experience with them trying shit like getting into eaves and shit. They're smart animals but in the worst way.
>>64987416I've literally been shooting hogs for twenty six years in TX. Almost all of them with 55gr .223 out of a 16". Everything behind the shoulder on a hog is guts. Shoot all piggers in the head, no exceptions.
>>64996109This is why most people put rabbits in stews and cook the shit out of it for a long time to soften it up.
>>64996195Lots of blacks in the south, 55 grains eh? I bet you run a 1:9 twist, dontcha boy?
>>6499308820 gauge. My bird dog isn’t really interested in them but he spooks them up a bunch looking for birds and I blast them on the run. Rabbit season is year round so it gives me an excuse to run the dog a few more times a year and scout for turkey, deer, and quail.
>>64988117Any rabbit recipes you like?
>>64992057Hunters are usually the biggest conservationists
>>64986273>Do you hunt and trap animals for food?yes, fried squirrel legs tossed in sauce, roasted pheasant breast, creamy rabbit stew, pigeon-kebabs, cajun crow sliders, mesquite smoked venison sticks
>>64996628Buffalo Bunny. Fry that shit up. Smother it in wing sauce. Dip in ranch. Wash down with cheap shitty beer. Great for squirrel too.
>>64995963Not gonna lie I’ve done it on deer drives when I’m first gun and didn’t want to share credit. It’s not as hard as a lot of people make it out to be. I knocked the teeth out of a button buck with a 12 gauge slug once before my brother put one in his ribs but other than that it’s pretty good at dropping them on the spot.
>>64995973Yeah quite a beautiful spot, this is about 5 min walk away. All the short grass is because animals come from all around at night time to eat it, the surrounding bush is all quite inedible for them, either ferns or bottom leaves stripped
>>64996109Instant pot is the way to have rabbit. Or just boiled, then shredded. Add it to gravy, pasta dishes etc. Personally I find it hard to get over the taste, it's mild but the hint of rabbit gets to me
>>64996869Deer are considered a pest animal here in NZ, quite hated, but shotguns were banned, both buck and slug, because too many people were wounding them
>>64996894that's kind of funny. for decades 1/3rd of all hunters in the US lived in shotgun only durr zones because retards thought retards would miss and hit a house
>>64996899Yeah true, it's needed with the population density there. Over here situations like that would be totally banned from hunting. We're not actually allowed to fire within 200 yards of a marked trail
People think wild hog meat is going to be a cheap replacement for domestic pork and then they taste it. That shit's always gamey and tough
>>64996907Same with duck
>>64996919>>64996907how are geese? I really want to remove honk
>>64986273I hunt though I hunt less than my dad, who hunts less than my grandpa did. From the age of 7 my dad was raised being given five or six 22lr rounds and being told by grandma that he needs to bring back at least three rabbits or squirrels, from the age of 7 my grandpa was given 5 12 gage shells and told to bring back at least 4 animals to eat. I mostly just do deer but do some quail as well, as a kid I got roughly 4 rifle rounds and 5 shotgun shells but these days I tend to take 50+ rounds in a range bag because I buy a lot of bullets for hobby shooting otherwise.
>>64996926Even the wild ones are fatty. I've tried to shoot them but can't get close and I figure my 223 will destroy the meat
>>64996919>>64996926Duck and goose are kind of greasy in my opinion though I've only had duck I raised, Muscovy duck specifically, and geese I shot. It's probably a better question for /ck/ honestly, or it would be if they weren't just circlejerking about fast food all the fucking time.
>>64996946Wild duck is very similar to wild venison, it's quite surprising
>>64996948I'll have to try it sometime then, wild venison is my favorite meat.
I like to hunt but I also love animals and find myself torn between the enjoyment of getting out and enjoying the world with a bit of good game as a sweetener, whilst knowing that I'm taking lives for arguably frivolous reasons when I live in a time and place where it isn't necessary for my survival. When God gave man dominion over the beasts of the land he didn't mean as ownership, he meant as stewardship. Unless I'm hunting for population/pest control I prefer to be pastoral towards the other spirits with whom we share this world. I know it sounds gay, but I value the lives of animals more highly than the lives of humans, so to predate on them for recreational purposes feels spiritually ugly
>>64987124>>64988117>>64990076>>64995343How can you shoot cute furry animals?>>64990076 should be roaming free in the woods and you blasted it with some 17th century musket
>>64993088Depends how big your property is and what you’re doing. If you want to walk it and flush them, a shotgun and 6 shot is nice. Gauge doesn’t really matter. Otherwise a scoped .22 is great. There’s not much more fun than popping rabbits with a suppressed bolt action .22.
>>64996001Did it hit the leg or its jaw first? The SST isn’t the toughest bullet around by any means, but it’s not a vmax either. I have a heard time believing it wouldn’t penetrate into the lungs when you can get pass through on whitetail. I’d call that a fluke more than anything. Or you were so close that it was above expansion threshold and fragmented. I guess that could happen.
>>64996859Not my typical meal but that does sounds good
>>64996890>Instant pot is the way to have rabbitDo you toss the whole thing in with bones or do you slice the meat off first? I’ve seen people cook it both ways.
>>64996946NTA but a local place has fries cooked in duck fat topped with shredded duck meat, fine grated parmesan, and salt. Holy fuck is it good. The parmesan is grated into "dust", not strips, btw. Raised not wild but it works so well. Eat with a fork. Cheese is not melted.
>>64997396pretty sure that style dates back to the early 19th century, not the 17th
>>64997396Due to humans moving into areas and killing off natural predators many game animals have particularly high populations, which the land cannot support. There are two ways to manage that: one is for humans to take the place of the predators and the other is to reintroduce the natural predators but that takes a lot of work and meets a lot of pushback each time it is tried. A good example of an area where the situation came up and started causing problems until it was fixed, using the second option previously mentioned, is Yellowstone where the deer had a population boom due to wolves being gone, started eating enough vegetation that the soil near bodies of water started to erode heavily which damaged other animal's abilities to get water, ate enough of the food available to herbivores that it started causing issues for other species, and so on. While that was improved with the reintroduction of predators that isn't feasible in every location whereas in many locations, assuming human population numbers and settlement density are low enough, hunting can easily be slotted in and as long as there is evenhanded and well thought out regulation by the local fish and game departments it will keep the numbers in control without causing a hard population crash.In short, in many locations if man does not actively hunt it will cause more harm than good for both the game species and the other animals in the area. I know I'd rather shoot and eat deer than have the various herbivores die to starvation and disease. And that's not even getting into invasive species encroachments that cause even more damage for the land and the animals on it.>>64996997That's a pretty agreeable viewpoint at its core. Hunting for trophies rather than for needed resources, population control, and/or pest control doesn't feel like the right way to do things.
>>64986273>I want to try wild hog meatI've had both farm-raised boar and culled boar (had to pick out the buckshot)It's like slightly gamier porkNot really worth it IMHOIf you want to approximate it, stew a mix of venison and lean pork
>>64997877I have a good bit of property (a little over 100 acres) and it's surrounded by national forest. All the rabbits congregate on my land though since it has a lot of brush cover and all the forest land is mature pine that gets burned regularly.I'll probably end up trying both walking and flushing with my twelve gauge and shooting them from the porch with my 22. I might even try my hand at setting some snares if I get some time later in the year.Thanks for the input.
>>64999254That sounds like a really nice setup anon. Good luck and enjoy. Personally, I like walking and flushing them with a shotgun and you should have a great spot for that.
>>64996997I feel like I agree with this at my core, but also I feel that it's something only a human would think.Like, when an owl does the horrible act of swallowing a poor mouse alive, does the owl think "hmmmm, am I doing something unethical?" No. When a coyote pack shows up in my forest and hunts down a family cat, pins the cat to the ground, they hear the cat cry in fear and pain, they feel nothing, then other coyotes sink their teeth into the cat. The cat screams. The coyotes don't react or even blink. The cat has tears streaming down its face while blood gushes out everywhere. The coyotes don't bother to kill the cat. They just keep taking bites. The cat slowly expires after a long and excruciating experience.Whereas a human hunter feels like you do. And the human hunter cares deeply about choosing the right cartridge for the right environment at the right distance in order to kill an animal so fast the animals brain can't react fast enough to feel their death.We are different, we can do better. Nature doesn't care. Nature has no mercy and no ethics. We do.
>>64998690I think it tastes better than normal pork, maybe our pork is just shit.Is there some secret to cooking roe-deer? I feel like it has to be eaten fresh because the fat is awful tasting if you let it congeal. Washed out into the dish in small amounts it was alright.
Awesome news, GOA just got a bill through the House that prevents bureaucrats from banning lead ammo.https://www.nssf.org/articles/nssf-applauds-u-s-house-passage-of-protecting-access-for-hunters-and-anglers-act-2/
>>64999759>it tastes better than normal porkmaybe, but not worth the extra cost and effort, to me>Is there some secret to cooking roe-deersame as any tough or game meat; however you choose to marinate it, add powdered starch just before cooking. not a lot, just a fine dusting of it, no need to dredge it like breadcrumbs. it acts like an extra coating to keep the meat from losing its moisture. also maybe use a marinade that has a bit of added fat to it, cause game meats tend to be lean.>the fat is awful tasting if you let it congealgame meats are like that>>64998376>fries cooked in duck fat topped with shredded duck meat, fine grated parmesan, and saltI'm gonna have to try that out
>>64999759>deerp.s. and either stew it or slice thinly and pan-fry it with something strong like black pepper saucethese are all tricks to reduce the gameyness if you find it overpowering(a.k.a. friccassée or ragout de cerf, or cerf au poivre, if you wanna act fancy French about it)
>>65000428lmao we gotta tard thread going >>64996168
>>65000501"tard thread"you are legitimately a horrible person.
>>65000501Greenies freaking out over hunters has been a thing for decades. It is why most states have anti hunter harassment laws. Going after lead ammo seems to be their latest strategy. I assume they got an inch with the ban on lead waterfowl shot and now want to take a mile and are upset the door got closed in their face? See >>65000502 for proof of greeny seething at hunters.
>>65000506fuck you
>>64998170Bone in then pull if off with fingers when it's done. Surprising amount of meat on a rabbit
>>65000507Don't you have some farms to pave over for solarpanels or something, greeny?
>>65000502what the fuck would you call that thread other than a tard thread? go read the thread, it's 100% some jewish sperg who thinks the OP is being earnest when he said he was going to spray lead everywhere and some guy saying he wants to poison birds with lead because he's antisemetic >>65000506the bill both posts are referring to would ban the president or one of several federal secretaries from banning lead in national parks outside some specific circumstances where they could prove the lead was killing the wildlife the whole thing is fucking stupid because copper monolithic bullets are actually good hunting bullets
>>65000610>copper monolithic bullets are actually good hunting bulletsYou again, kike?slippery. slope.
>>65000617I'm not the jew. I never agreed the lead shit was bad, retard. my argument was that copper rounds weren't ass like steel shot, retard
>>65000627>outside some specific circumstances where they could prove the lead was killing the wildlife...you're for the bans, fag
>>65000631wait, so you believe the lead is killing wildlife, but you also don't want it banned? what the fuck? I never argued that lead was killing birds. All I argued was that copper bullets were effective, faggot
>>65000635Copper is effective in the same way steel shot is effective. Yeah it works but only with massive tradeoffs. The simple fact is lead is more dense and makes a better bullet with better ballistics. You can't beat physics.
>>65000635ok, complete the sentence then, I am sucking the cock of copper bullets and trying to shill them on /k/ because I want to ban _____?it should be easy. otherwise why bring it up? you're just either dumb or an anti
>>64986273No, hunting is not kosher.
>>65000642Is this real by the way? Aren't there jewish hunters in the Bible? Nimrod and the like?
>>65000645not real. I could hunt, I don't because it's expensive to get into.
>>65000647>I
>>65000657yes? we exist, whether you like it or not
>>65000660Not for long if Iran keeps it up the flying triangles HEYO
>>65000638federal trophy copper .30-30 has 4 inches of drop at 200 yards, 30 inches of penetration, retains 99% of it's mass and expands to 0.55 incheshttps://www.americanhunter.org/content/first-look-new-federal-30-30-winchester-trophy-copper-load/it's not the same thing. steel shot is ass and loses energy too quickly. Lead ammo only beats out copper ammo out past like 200 yards which is well past what a normal person is shooting when hunting anyway>>65000640why would someone bring up lead free bullets in a tread about leaded hunting ammo bans? are you retarded? half the people in these hunting threads are pro copper bullets because they don't want to eat lead>no big copper wants me to use this effective round that doesn't put lead into my food, save me lead mankeep sucking big lead's dick
>>65000645jews have to bleed the animal and have a rabbi bless it so they would need to bring a rabbi and then like catch and ritualistically kill the animal with the rabbi >>65000647lel>>65000660not
just nailed this furry little bugger with my Ruger 77/22
>>65000677>half the people in these hunting threads are pro copper bullets because they don't want to eat leadI like making ethical kils, actually. So I'll be sticking with lead.
>>65000688LOL
>>65000617NTA but all copper bullets are really good. Does it mean lead bullets should be banned? Of course not. But by themselves they are really nice.
>>64997889>>64997889No it hit pretty cleanly under the chin, about 2 inches to the right of his windpipe. I guess the bullet just fragmented too much. Like you said the SST isn't the most sturdy bullet but I get pass throughs on whitetails basically every time. I would have just headshot him to start with but a branch was hanging down blocking his head so I went for the neck/upper chest. Here's a pic of him shortly after that.
>>65001158Here it is, forgot to attach lol
>>65000638> Copper is effective in the same way steel shot is effectiveYou are extremely wrong and yet so confident
>>65001158Huh. That’s strange but weird shit can happen even with routine shots. That doesn’t seem like it’s asking too much of an SST, so I’m going to go with it was so close and faster it fragmented. I don’t know, I could certainly be wrong but I would guess that 9/10 times it hits the lungs no problem in that situation.
>>64986273it's not worth it but total hog death is
>>65000680You're so mean!
>>65000688>no 30 inches of penetration isn't enough retard
>>65001636He steals my dad's grass and that rabbit was chopped up and given to my dog's for breakfast
>>65001695Retard
>>65001833turn your monitor on
>>65001744Post dogs?
>>65001695Fucking size queens
>>64991427Don't you eat meat?I'm a kraut and I got my hunting license to get guns more easy but hunting grew on me. I think it's the most responsible way to meat, because I care about what I eat more then before.
>>65000688Stick with what you like, but I never made an unethical kill with my .308 copper HPs (Sako Powerblade)
More dead hogger
I also shoot predators
>>65004208You can have those in yarp? I thought they were super banned
>>65004388I'm like 90% I've said this to you before, but I'm getting very invested in fox hunting. I wish I had more chances to get one as I drew the short straw on anything but raccoons this year. Still great fur on a raccoon but I have so much more interest in fox and coyote. You see raccoons, opossums, and skunks in the daytime rarely. Foxes, it depends on the area but they're about the same if not rarer. Sometimes you can figure out where single individuals sometimes hang out in the daytime but it's not common. Coyote? I can count on one hand the times I've seen them and never in the woods. I want one up on the wall so badly; they're so cool. When I start getting good at hunting them is when it'll be a problem. How many 20-40 pound animals can you REALLY make space to display? Guess that's a future me problem, lol.
>>65004051kek
>>65004740the can? I'm American and not a yuropoor, but it seems like even in the democratic people's republic of bongolia and naziland cans are basically regulated the same as rifles. Walther is putting out this retarded bullpup straight pull because it takes a suppressor better than a normal rifle because shorter overall length and it's balanced to the rear and the TGS outdoors bong has a suppressor for one of his 2 rifles and the only reason it's only 1 rifle and not both rifles is because one rifle is a modern plastic straight pull with a threaded barrel and the other is like a 120 year old lee speed that wasn't threaded and he doesn't want to thread it
>>64997396>How can you shoot cute furry animals?Oh I have mild psychopathic tendencies. This gives me the opportunity to kill inside a legal framework and I enjoy being alone away from people and I’ve learned that wherever there are animals there usually aren’t people so it’s kind of a double win for me. I assure you that any offense and outrage this causes you only improves my personal experience. It’s not a sexual thing it’s more like a stress reliever.
>>65004208It is crazy to me that the Yuros are somehow more sensible about cans than American politicians are.
Do you guys know the weight retention numbers for bird shot or rifled slugs? if they're 100% retention or close to it then I don't see the problem with hunting with it when you can, but if they're shedding significant amount of lead into the meat like nonbonded bullets do, I'd rather use nontoxic stuff.
>>65004740>>65005330>>65005661I need to register my surpressors like I need to register my rifles, unfortunately. At least I can get them as a hunter tho. Sport shootets can't, so sportschützen btfo again.
>>65005661Semi-related, it's been driving me nuts that no one seems to be threading hunting and "regular" rifles (not an AR) from the factory more than the crumbs we've been thrown. Ruger took how many months until they surprisingly purged EVERY 10/22 to fully redo their catalog? Yes, even that one. Yes, including 1101 and 1102, the regular wood and polymer carbines that were their best seller. The one they've been making since 1964. Even then they only have maybe 30% of them threaded, but irons and threaded are so much more common rather than offering a featureless BUT THREADED barrel on random models no one wants. Lots of price hikes IIRC. CZ says "hey look at this ugly thing in 22LR lol you want it?" (pic, $799 MSRP) and still won't bring in all the cool ass threaded Euro models. There's like one fucking threaded model per caliber, 22LR/22MAG/17HMR, polymer stock ONLY, ONLY one barrel length. Savage makes like one or two threaded models I think and like a day ago they post a "hey look at this threaded bolt action 22LR that's compatible with the aftermarket of our full size rifles...starting at $1000."youtube.com/watch?v=Ik3nw2OZCMMIn-fucking-sane. It's like every company is fucking blind to the huge buying wave of silencers. I'll give the secret away to all the peopel in charge of what models are made and what gets exported: Just make your regular models...but threaded. Crazy, I know! I'm tired of having to think about paying $100-250 for a fucking threading job already. And CZ, why the FUCK do spare barrels cost like $300 and are never in stock?! I don't give a fuck if they come with a mag, seriously what the fuck?
>>65010146I think right now they are dealing with supply issues and before now I don't think people were willing to pay the premium for iron sights or threaded barrels on guns that were going to get an optic and not be silenced
>>65010175Ruger I can see as well as the industry being slow to do anything with supply/price concerns. It's just that Euro companies (or their US importers) like CZ drive me nuts when I know they used to make other threaded models and still largely do for Europe IIRC. I've seen some companies not offer threading at all, or other companies (Howa, of all companies!) offer a 22 Mag, threaded, but give a really flimsy stock, list it as their only rifle WITHOUT a 1MOA guarantee, and receive a concerning amount of reports of non-concentric threads. And one additional thing on Ruger that I'm not adding to shit on them but only give some more data; you'd think that they were just dipping their toes into threading but export 10/22 models say otherwise. Mid 90s sporter pictured (left), export only, 1/2x20 threaded.
>>65005672You cannot hunt with birdshot and eat it, the blood covers every single ball and starts leeching lead into meat, if you shoot a bird with copper load, and lick the copper, you'd realize it tastes like some sort of cuprite-iron mixture like a copper blood
>>64995343What's your doggo's name?
>>64997396>How can you shoot cute furry animals?You just don't lead 'em so much.
>>65010971so then how do people eat rabbits and quails?
>>64998376>>65000482I used to make just that at a bar I worked at, also duck. I wonder if you're talking about me.
>>65012562Nope, not a bar. It's in PA, near the Hamburg Cabelas which was (is?) the largest location. Straight across from a Sheetz. BTW that Cabelas closed their food court and never reopened AFAIK which sucks because they had shit like bison and caribou burgers. Not cheap but something fun.
>>65012506
>>65012963one advantage of steel shot is that it's magnetic lead won't crack your teeth
>>65012506You realize you can hunt them with real guns, right? Say no to shotgun homosexuals.
Does /k/ actually hunt birds and also eat them?Only hunters I know do it for sport
>>64986273No and don't do it, traps are indesciminate and half the time kill or maim animals you are not even after. I've seen the consequences of gobshites prepper spastics leaving traps out and having to put animals out of their misery. They should only be used indoors for rodents or in a life and deth survivcal situation. The worst is strangulation traps. I'm telling you if you had seen the vile shit I had to clean up you would not do this and don;t get me wrong, I hunt but for fuck sake do it right and take clean kills, not this shit.
>>65013340Yeah I take pheasant every year during winter with a dog and a side by side. I also release some birds from pends to keep the population up when necessary and leave ditches with some cover on them. I also release rabbit and keep habitat for them as well as hare and also preserve some other species like hedgehogs and release them and red squirrel, which also means culling grey squirrel etc etc. Fir fuck sake NO TRAPS if you are killing animals do it right and if you don't know how go out with someone who does and learn how to..There is nothing worse than some trespassing urban cunt dressed in camo desending and practising his youtube prepper garbage on wildlife. You don't hunt birds with 22 either you fucking idiot.
>>65010971>You cannot hunt with birdshot and eat it, the blood covers every single ball and starts leeching lead into meat,kys I mrean that people as stupid as you, fuck it's distrubing you even exist. Yet there you are typing away utter site from your little cement box thinking everyone is as thick and retarded as you are that your nonsense is plausible.The scale of educational and social failure in irban areas that generates thrash like you is incredible.
>>64992099the real bastards are magpies, devestate small bird populations, they will actually hunt down the nexts of all other small bird species and destroy the eggs in the nests. I get rid of them by shooting one and leaving the body hanging it by a cord whatever senses they have magpies can pick up that one of their own was killed in an area and the rest of them will leave. When it comes to corvids like crows and rooks, you are dealing with near human levels of intelligence though, unbelievably intellgent nearly to the point of sitting down to negotuate terms with you.
>>64986273>I want to try wild hog meat.MAke sure you learn how to check the internal organs for disease and parasites then and use a fucking gun. The easiest way to do it clean is go out and leave calf pellet feed scattered in a good spot with a safe shooting backspot down from a hide for a few months so they get used to the scent of a human where the feed is. Then setup and take one while they are standing. The other way is to drive them out into a line of shooters from cover. But do it in the right season so they don't have piglets with them for fiuck sake. Lean to do this shit right lads, don't fuck around like a prick, ESPECIALLY because you are some retarded cunt who thinks he's preparing for the end of the world full of shit about how you are going to 'hunt stuff' during your caffine anxiety xombie apocalypse bullshit.
>>65013473That works for starlings too. Both have distress calls that can be played but I don't do that anymore because it's like how Jews bomb people trying to help
>>65012979Biting steel shot is something else
>>65013429>>65013444Thanks, chatgpt
>>65010998Nova, 15mo English springer spaniel. She's mad on hunting but to be fair for deer she is just coming along for the walk thinking she's helping when she's not. When I shot that deer it ran approx 10m but it was with another deer and of course she chased the live one instead of tracking blood
>>65010146You're right about the CZ switch barrel models like 457. There is the extra bulk and weight penalty but then you go to buy a 17hmr barrel or something and it's unavailable
>>65010971>You can’t hunt with birdshot and eat itUh yes you fucking can>Blood covers it and leeches lead into the muscleOh no it’s retarded>CopperWho the fuck uses copper?>You can see most of the penetration wounds and dig them out if you’re scared>Steel shot exists>Chew slow retard>Stop posting dumb shit on the internet
>>65013649Chatgpt, I never saw someone eat a bird they hunted, hopefully this anecdote helps
>>65013429>You don’t hunt birds with .22Actually it’s common practice for spruce grouse and ptarmigan but that’s because they’re extremely stupid birds that tend not to fly when flushed. Like seriously you don’t really need a dog for them because spruce grouse will just flap up to the nearest tree branch and stare at you confused and ptarmigan live at such high elevation predators are just a foreign concept so they’ll just stare at you. I’ve heard of guys taking those two birds with rocks and their bare hands they’re so stupid. I remember reading a guys post about ptarmigan hunt and he loathed those birds. When his dog went on point the bird literally walked up to it out of curiosity and the dog just grabbed it and retrieved it alive and unharmed. No shooting necessary. Saying it makes sense for quail though is fully asinine because they live in coveys, you won’t see them until they flush 99/100 times, you’re not plinking one out of the air with a .22, nor is it particularly safe to do so. With rabbits it’s a numbers game. Motherfucker just has never been outside and it’s obvious.
>>65013653>Hehe my papa Tim Walz just left his pen raised preserve pheasants at the shooting club both times he took his cocker spaniel
>>65013338>shooting quails with .22also in my gay state you need to use a shotgun or an air rifle. I think the only animals you can shoot with a rifle are durr if you are using a muzzle loader and shit like foxes or woodchucks if you own a farm and are on a cull permit because you farm and maybe boars, but again it's a specific farmer's permit. I don't think we have a wild boar issue and for most people if you want to hunt boar in the state you need to get a durr tag because if you are out hunting durr you are allowed to shoot board but again, durr hunting is shotguns or muzzle loaders
>>65010971how fast could the lead possibly leech into the meat?
>>65014340How long does it take you to bring it somewhere and clean it? 1 hour? any amount of lead is bad btw, no safe limits
>>65014353I don't think the lead is dissolving that fast. do you have any kinetics data on it?
>>65014394If it's center fire, lead dust vaporizes into the meat, don't eat anywhere near the wound channel.22lr and shotgun is ok, but naturally don't eat near the wound channel on 22lr in case there are fragments broken off
>>64992099>european starlingi was gonna try and attract the GOD BLESS AMERICAn kestrels to bully them, otherwise my state says i can blast their invasive asses all year round so fuk u yuro starlings ur going in the wine sauce made with AMERICAN wine
>>65015746based
>>65015746absolute pleb over here mixing old world gamebirds with new world wine
>>65015774eat shit those yuro twink birds are going in a WISCONSIN red wine sauce with carmalized AMERICAN onions in AMERICAN butter
>>65015782based, remove nonwhite yuro pest bird
>>64986273>I want to try wild hog meat.I see some nice hog meat in your pic, OP. Why don't you try that?
>>64996919Duck tastes really good you just have to soak in lemon first to remove the gamey flavor. In areas where they're eating a ton of fish it's going to straight up taste like fish no matter what you do. >>64996926Geese actually are grazers. Completely different diet and anyone claiming they're comparable to duck can be immediately discarded.
>>65017727Also I've had hog. Same hog different hog made no difference. Some hog meat is just randomly COMPLETE INEDIBLE SHIT. I've heard the hormone theories but it really does seem to be completely random. I'm thinking some meat tastes bad because people are attempting to poison them. It takes absolutely horrid when it's bad so I don't think there's real risk in it either way. You'll know you don't want it.Also the lemon soak is mandatory from my experiences. Also note I've specifically only eaten baby hogs due to the taste issues and even those had it so I don't think it's hormonal tbqhwy.
>>65017754QRD on hormones shit? Are people injecting them with test or something?
>>65018060Hogs fuck and breed like crazy. It's the teste and pregnancy cycles causing meat spoilage. Goats are known (males) for tasting like shit as well when theyre older so I think it's a carry over from that. To be clear I think it's bullshit but I DO notice the younger ones have less bad tasting meat overall.
>>65018060Males = boatloads of testosterone = "boar taint" (buildup of various hormones and skatole, read about that on Wikipedia) = literally tastes/smells like shit
>>65018353>>65019746I see, thanks guys.>>65022796W-what are you gonna do to him!
>>65013340I do quail hunting pretty regularly, always with a shotgun, and eat each and every one I kill. If you're lucky you can hit bag limit with one shot, so it's a good economical choice. Used to do pheasant, but I haven't seen one since I was on a junior hunting license. And as for the fags whining about shot in your birds, you just trim it out before cooking the meat sort of like you typically cut away a bit of meat from around the bullet wound when you're cleaning up a deer.
>>64992099>European StarlingsAbsolute pain in the ass faggot birds. We have a bunch in Idaho as an invasive species, the story I typically hear for where they came from in the area is some dumbass bringing some in for a wedding or some shit because they thought the swooping clouds of starlings were pretty.
>>65023568Worse, a Shakespeare appeeciation group that wanted to introduce species mentioned in his works cuz pretty Euro animals just like in my English literature! They released a flock in central park and they didn't take. So they did that a second time. How maybe like 100 birds got to be millions without turning into inbred horrors will never make sense in my head.
I'm getting stuff for hunting and I'm thinking 3 to start with. R8 or H8 my choices, also recommend 3rd gun:>Smoothbore over-under, probably just a Toz of some kind because the Turkish one I shot during training was a bit sticky and had to be cranked extra hard to open fully and eject>Tikka T3 in 6.5 (SE, not Creedmoor because I heard it's a hipster round)I need another one for small game, was considering a Rossi R92/95 in .357 or .44 but heard that deep cleaning lever actions is meme unto inself. What would /k/ommandos recommend for a lower energy rifle?>400J to 1000J energy>due legal fuckery, centerfire only>moderately reliable, good to go mostly stock>gonna slap a scope on it>Euro products would be cheaper
>>65015746based, burger wines are only fit for cooking.
>>65026216if for some reason it needs to be centerfire for small game, look for something in 22 hornet or 204 ruger, 22-.250 or 17 hornet, 38special/357 mag (ability to shoot 38s would be ideal 357 is a bonus
>>65026216>6.5 creed is a hipster roundIn the US, I see a ton of it left on the range. It's surprisingly popular. I see less 30-30, 30-06, .303, and maybe even .308/7.62x51 combined left behind. Different in Euroland I'm sure but holy shit is it all over the place here. And at ranges with max 100-300yd lanes.>small game rifle>400J to 1000J energy>due legal fuckery, centerfire onlyWhat the fuck small game requires like 2-5x the power of 22LR? Or 1-2.5x the power of 22WMR? At that point fuck it, just go with a lever action. You can easily silence it anyways and most of the dirt goes out the barrel anyways.
>>65010971>You cannot hunt with birdshot and eat itOkay I'll go tell every single upland bird hunter.
>>65026216>probably just a TozAlso look at the Baikal/Izhevsk IZh shotguns since you have access to Tula TOZ shotguns. They're surprisingly nice. Maybe not the most durable finish on the wood but that's really the only complaint I can give and that's an easy fix. >what is this anime character captchaWhat.
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>>65026216why the fuck would you buy a turkshit shotgun or a rossi?
>>65034785Because prices here are ridiculous and availability is dogshit.
