I got a job in security and they want us to be armed. They said we could pick our own sidearm and I wanna go with the old 1911.Thing is, I don't know much about guns. Is this a good price? Is there anything else I should know?
>>64998030You should get a FAMAS, they're about the same price.
>>64998030Are you actively trying to get suicide by crackhead, or do you actually want a gun that will save your life?If the latter, is your life worth only $370?Get a Glock 19 at the VERY least
>>64998030I haven't heard good things about Rock Island's QC. For a slightly higher price you can get a S&W Bodyguard 2, which is .380 (instead of the chunky .45 that a 1911 takes). It's also easier to handle and conceal
>>64998080>>64998082Im at a place where I will never ever use the gun unless terrorists attack American infrastructure sites.
>>64998087Get this 1911 then, its cool, lots of holster options, guaranteed to be a bit heavy for just keeping it as a display though>infrastructurei will steal all your copper
>>64998124Cool thanks for your input. >i will steal all your copperPicrel
>>64998030It's an OK price but Flip 1911s are pretty shit. You should get a Tisas they're a bit better made (forged frame vs cast frame and better finishes)
>>64998030The best thing you can do if you want a 1911 is make sure it's 70 series design and then run the shit out of it. A good running 1911 Is basic bitch. Take a look here or any forum at the 1911s run. You will see a plethora of tards bitching that the tight comp gun, flavor savor caliber, accessory laden 1911 is a pile of shit and jam, feed function prone. You will see hand built 2011/1911s hanging up during feed due to incorrect spring, tolerances and slide release catching. You will experience none of this with a mil spec/70 series 1911. Buy one. Run it enough to wear it in. It will last you a lifetime.
>>64998080I buy $50 motorcycle helmets because the odds of a wreak are very low. Same with a gun. Cheap is fine.
>>64998087>unless terrorists attack American infrastructure sites.>which is exactly where they will attack fisrt, but whatev
>>64998186What if I live in a shithole that only allows series 80 1911's?
>>64998030You're a retard to pick the 1911 for an actual armed job. If you're armed, you usually have to qualify with that weapon. Get a Glock 17 gen 5. And know you are carrying something for the role you are performing
>>64998030The 1911 is a lot like a pump shotgun, just smaller. All you hae to do is rack the slide as a warning, and the cowardly thieves will run. The sound alone is enough to scare thieves straight, just like the pump shotgun.
>>64998211>the odds of a wreak are very lowMoron, when riding a motorcycle, getting struck by a car is a matter of when, not if. You see how stupid people drive in cars around other people in cars. 90% of the time nobody is looking out for fucking motorcycles and if you get hot thats your ass because motorcycles offer zero protection. Friend of mine's wife is an ER nurse and she calls them Murdercycles, she's seen so many people die from accidents involving them. Look to your life, you bastard.
>>64998216When's the last time we had armed terrorists attack an American infrastructure site
>>64998087Anon...
>>64998262Like 2018 or 2022? Some group opened fire at the sub stations, and also some poles were bombed by possibly antifa terrorists
>>64998222You can remove the lever plunger and spring, add a spacer. But on a carry gun you would be fine with an 80 series. Leaves something to be desired but it's fine.
I have a the same RIA 1911 that I’ve yet to have a failure to feed or jam using both the stock mec-gar or Wilson combat magazines with FMJ, JHP is an entirely different story. Some people have the same experience as me, others don’t. If you’re looking for a duty gun this isn’t it. It’s the boring route sure but there are much better polymer 9mm that are double stacked, don’t need anywhere as much attention to maintenance, and can reliably feed JHP at similar price points
>>64998226>You're a retard to pick the 1911 for an actual armed job. Why? I've carried a 17, 22, 19, 1911 just to name a few. I prefer the 1911. Balance of a steel frame. Grip angle fits to the point it literally equates to it hits where I point it. .45 issue ammo like ranger t performs perfectly in humans. Recoil even in the officer model steel frame .45 is nice. It's not snappy like .40 or +p+ 9mm. It's all low bark and no bite on the user end. What the fuck do you think you would possibly be facing that you need more than 8 shots before you reload another 7? This opinion is like the clown advice you need 4 magazines for your Glock 19 on duty. That's insane. Try hitting something with the first shot. Are you laying down suppressive fire in your fantasy at Omaha beach? Jeesh kid calm down on the ADHD meds.
whatever you get go shoot 2 to 400 rounds bare nuts minimum through it before you carry it. make sure you can use it and it works correctly.if you like the 1911 get a bianchi m12 holster too so you can complete that dork mall ninja look you ohh so want
>>64998338my ria 1911 in 9mm is just now starting to give me hiccups and im in like 2-3k rounds of all kinds of garbage 9mm through it. time to replace extractor. same on my OG cz75 which might have 4-6K rounds through it or more
>>64998422anon its the future, we have kydex holsters.
>>64998297Ok but before that?
>>64998297>bunch of infra blown up in a deep red state in a plan that perfectly matched accelerationist christian nationalist militia fantasies>but actually it was some liberal hippies hopped up on matcha lattesImpressive mental gymnastics
>>64998350goddd you sound like you're in your early thirties but are so fucking stoked to be an old man.
>>64998350They hated jesus for telling the truth>reeeee you have to go out with a belt fed LMG or you're a boomer reeeee
>>64998350>What the fuck do you think you would possibly be facing that you need more than 8 shots before you reload another 7?>I'm so fucking retarded that I have never seen a shootout before. Absolute dumbfuck take of the week.
>>64998030Get a 2011 instead>no recoil>better everything
>>64998350gottemI am so fucking sick of glock tards
>>64998080>Glocktard can’t stand someone carrying anything else but his gunfu While I agree OP should get a nicer 1911, running straight for “19 or you’re going to die” is peak zoomer brainrot.
>>64998691Why?
>>64998350Trvke
>>64998262>When's the last time we had armed terrorists attack an American infrastructure siteAll the time, they just supress the news to keep the sheeple from panicking. 9/11 was too obvious to suppress reporting. I saw it on Univision.
>>64998445The Colt Single Action Army is all I would trust my life to. That or the 1911 and an M1 Garand. In fact, just get the Garand.
>>64998836>sheepleOpinion discarded.
>>64998836True. Mr brother found a bomb in LA when he was drunk. They brought in not just the bomb squad truck but the special one they rarely use(as was described to my brother) They had snipers on the roofs to get angles on it. Since my brother was the person who got closest to it they kept him around to ask him any details he could give them.Never on the news. nothing. Blocks of la shut down and not a peep on the news about the bomb.
>>64998186I own a Series 70 1911 made by colt. The 1911 is a good handgun but it shows its age>clunky rattling>fire without magazine damages firing pin>heavy and only 8 rounds so have fun with that on your belt faggot>better than glock ergos at best>idiot scratch>worst fucking gun I ever have to disassemble and clean, by farThe only redeeming quality is the trigger, and even then I'd say it's way overrated.. Go to a gun store and get a feel for different handguns. Walther PDPs, CZ75s, Glocks, HKs, Springfield, S&W. Yes it's old, but that doesn't necessarily mean "dependable".Some of the 1911s people recommend are fucking absurd. $1k-$2k? You can get an optics ready gun for a quarter of the price, and you'd have a better shooting experience with shot placement to boot.Out of the handguns I've fired, the CZ75 and PDP were my favorites. CZ75 for muted recoil, and PDP for having the best ergonomics by far.45 ACP is not some mythical, one-shot-stop cartridge. You'd be better served by a 9mm with defensive loads. Train with cheaper FMJs and defend yourself with the expensive defensive rounds/hollow points. The only other handgun calibers I'd recommend outside of that niche are 10mm or magnum rounds like .357 or .44 Magnum for protecting yourself from wildlife. I have a Glock 20 and I fucking *despise* the ergonomics but it doesn't have to be comfortable to hold, just reliable, no nonsense to stop a cougar or a moose when I need it to.
>>64998030Dude you cant be that fucking dumb. I doubt they'd even let you carry that or that it'd be on their approved handgun list. How did you even get the job lmao
9mm m9a4 or px4 with a 16 round mag
>>64998861Did it look like this?
>>64998881Shows the retard quality they hire today. I bet OP is full of shit. No approval list. No qualification program for assigned gun. Thinks he never needs more than 8 rounds despite having a job requiring being armed. I'm betting jeet pretending to be a federal employee at an infrastructure site. Problem is, I have seen what those guys carry. I have seen their armories. I have seen who they usually hire. (Former LEO or Military) And I call bullshit on OPs claim. Even an armored truck driver has a qualification program and an approved list for sidearms.
>>64998895I remember that shit, fucking hilarious.It was in the back of a suv, stereotypical bomb look. Giant fuel source, wires ignition/trigger etc.Im not making it up…
>>64998030It definitely is a functional gun. What I've noticed is that people who are forced to carry in places where they will never use their gun tend to gravitate towards the lightest option available to them. I usually see all the security guards in my area start with duty pistols and end up with subcompacts or 1.5-stack guns.
>>64998836>UnivisionBeaner detected
>>64998849Go to bed, Ocelot
>>64998030That's retarded. Get a Glock in 9mm
>>64998030As a owner of that exact pic, it's not really worth it. .45 is expensive and GI sights just suck without paint. If your heart's in for the 1911, splurge a bit more for one with dovetail sights, but at that point get a 9mm DA/SA. Don't touch Glock until you get range time, the people advocating them are retards following the trend set by other retards.
I wouldn't go with a 1911 personallyGlock 19, VP9, Glock 17, P226, 92FS, CZ-75, CZ-P10, PDP, P99, PPQ, and hell, a USP, are better optionsI like my Colt 1911 but the ammo is expensive (I'm assuming your job provides you the ammo) and it jams quite a bit.
>>64998974maybe if youre built like a twink
Don't be a special snowflake. S&W MP9 in whatever size you prefer
>>64998623honestly it was probably just gayops but they couldn't make anyone care nomatter who they could blame
>>64999059why the fuck not? Have some freedom of choice so take it.personally, id brandish this all day everydayOr a walther p38 if it has to be compact.
>>64998030I have been an armored car driver for 8 years. Absolutely no security company will let you carry a 1911. Go role play somewhere else. Find me the sop of any armed security company in the country that allows the carry of single action semi autos or revolvers.
Why not a beretta 92 centurion ?
>>64999008Not to mention a set purity company or any company would absolutely bitch about the one guy who wants 45acp rather than the 9mm. Better to get a vp9/pdp, or if you really want a metal gun a beretta 92. Really I say those too strikers specifically because the only possible issue is the oversprung recoil spring that you can easily get aftermarket solutions for
>>64999201OP doesn't have enough style to pull that off desu
>>64999076Availability of quality holsters for one.>i wouldYeah we know you don't carry which is why you're giving retarded advice anonymously on the internet.
>>64999188>Find me the sop of any armed security company in the country that allows the carry of single action semi autos or revolversPinkertons circa 1875
>>64999206They dont waste their time with shit like that. They just adopt a similar sop to all other police departments. I have done the job a long time and never once seen or heard of a security company letting personal pick what ever gun they want. My company does not care about caliber but it has to be a double stack da/sa or dao only trigger. Thats it. So no revolvers or 1911s basically. Some guys have 40 and 45 call glocks etc. Most guys just have 9mm glocks and other poly 9s. I can say with absolutely certainly no reputable and insured security firm will allow agents to carry single action guns.
>>64998080>Get a Glock 19OP said he didn't know much about guns and you suggest a glock with its fucked up grip angle.Just get the 1911, OP
>>64999228You fell for a retard that does not own guns. Op is a noguns fag.
>>64999206Call me crazy but I think a P226 would probably be slightly better than a 92FS
>>64999222Absolutely certainty* gay ass auto correct
>>64999076If you showed up with that you would be justifiably red flagged as an annoying retard faggot. Annoying retard faggots are the first on the chopping block and given the worst details. But at least you'd get to have your annoying retard faggot PRIDE sidearm I guess.
>>64998030Literally none of these things happen if you work for an armed security firm. Why do you faggots not call out obvious troll threads?
>>64998030>the old 1911.Get a Beretta 92X compact, Beretta 84X or a CZ P-01. Full size 1911s are fuck massive, heavy and small mags.
>>64999242Dont give advice to faggots that make threads like this. Be better do better
>>64999238lol who gives a fuck what firearm another guy has on display? If anything, you sound the retarded faggot, getting mad other people don't just have a boring Zog approved light sissy glock like you do.besides, 7.63 slaps hard and some looting nigger would shit bricks if a big 'gat' like that was swung out.STFU when real gun affectionardo's are talking.
>>64999258>lol who gives a fuck what firearm another guy has on display?Your employer. You'd get fired on the spot.
>>64999258not beating the annoying retard faggot accusations
>>64999258Your autism and noguns is showing again. Some people take the work they do seriously and expect others to as well. If a faggot showed up at my job with a broom handle mauser he would get fired and black listed with every company as a moron that cant follow basic instruction and wants to be killed.
>>64999262You can tell the both of them have never had a job.
>>64999262this is clearly a troll thread anyway. If anything, your just saying Individuality, when both expressed and permitted, is intolerable to you and are unamerican and thus, a faggot.>>64999267same for you, I gave a serious answer anyway (p38) but your a no fun sperg mossad faggot so whats the point explaining to your willfully ignorant ass.
>>64999276what a little dicked bitch you are.
>>64999277t. unemployable virgin
>>64999280wrong on both accounts bucko but keep telling yourself that, NIGGER.
>>64998030Have you asked if 1911's are allowed? Insurers HATE single actions and frequently refuse to cover posts that use them which in turn means that security companies won't allow them. By and large the insurers would prefer DAO.
>>64998030Bullshit thread, discard and move on
>>64998080NutinFancy, is that you?
>>64999277Why are you a lazy noguns nigger that askes stupid questions?
>>64999323>NutinFancyI will never that time he thought it was okay to post an image of his stillborn baby with his distraught wife
>>64998253It's his life, not yours, incel. He gets to take his own risks and you just get to watch.
>>64999333Vicious check
>>64999222>has to be da/sa or dao So, no strikers? That's odd.
>>64999277>p38>serious answerAn antique, expensive, full size, 8 round 9mm with no holsters is a serious answer to you? Are you completely retarded? And the fact that op was looking to get a 360 dollar pistol should be indicative of the fact that he's broke.
Hipster thread
>>64999384Striker guns tend to fall under the DAO classification. No, it doesn't make sense, but that's how it is.
>>64998030If it doesnt matter then make a fashion statement, treat yourself anon you deserve it
>>64999282
>>64998870>fire without magazine damages firing pinwhen did this fuddlore start?
>>64998849Colt SAA? What kind of infant are you? Personally the M1805 is all I would trust my life to. That or the arquebus and the pike. In fact, just get the pike.
>>64999188A lot of EP carry officers model 1911s. It's basic common sense. +P+ 9mm ranger t coming in hot at 1230fps expands to 65. That same ranger t gets reliable penetration although once it hits a rib it spends a lot there. Ranger t plane Jane .45 ACP expands to 1.0. it gets plenty of penetration and has more ass on it after it hits a rib. When your sole purpose is to stop someone. As in take them out of a fight a 1 inch hole through the vital organs is SIGNIFICANTLY more than a .65 hole. When on average you are only going to get the opportunity to put one to three into a guy in the window of opportunity you have...3 one inch holes is better than 3 .65 holes all day long. This modern thinking that you have to sacrifice balance, recoil, ease of aim and accuracy, for a few more rounds is stupid. Same can be said for a revolver in heavy 357 mag and 44 magnum. In private contracting work there are many places where you can carry it if you can qualify with it. On the flip side there are a lot of companies over the last 5 to 10 years that have standardized cherry pistols and they issue them to you. A few of those companies use pretty high end Glock clones then put the employees through the paces with round counts in the thousands in the training phase. EP is one huge exception to the rule and even where firearms are standardized company wide often you will find what they use is not the same as the uniforms and support guys use. In case you doubt the expanded diameter here is lucky gunner, on ranger t 450.952 0.955 1.01 1.03 1.04
>>64999242>Heavy Funny the scrawny kids in WW2 described the 1911 as light. So did the WW2 training videos. Has it occurred to you that you might just be a fucking pussy?
>>64998184>>64998030Tisas/SDS is the current cheap 1911 go to. They are sloppy and loose like old military ones from ww1, meaning they'll run forever on ball even if you forget to clean them. Some of them don't like to feed JHPs, this is solved by using ball as JMB intended.
>>64998030>pick our own sidearm and I wanna go with the old 1911>Thing is, I don't know much about gunsYeah, that's evident. Get an M&P9. If you actually are aware of what SAO is and prefer that, just get any cheap 1911. They're all shit. I would advise heavily against a Glock, they require training around their flaws. Pretty much every Glock copy is better than a Glock, M&P9 being the new meta.
>>64999580>kids in WW2It's not WW2 anymore retard.
>>64998623>accelerationist christian nationalist>liberal hippies hopped up on matcha lattes
>>64999651>I'm weaker than a malnourished kid who didn't have access to proper medical care and modern exercise science. I'm weaker than a kid who never got the proper amount of sleep to heal and develop. I'm weaker of mind and body than a five foot six one hundred and fifty five pound hill peopleThanks for confirming the issue is you
>>64998030If you insist on carrying a 1911, at least get a fucking Commander model (shorter barrel and slide), and maybe consider whether or not you would want to pick .38 Super over .45 Auto (but both are good). The 9mm ones are fine, but if you're getting a 9mm you could get another pistol instead.I'll advise against getting a classic GI model, because the original GI sights fucking suck to use.A Glock 17 or M&P 9 would be much more practical, or a CZ75 if you want kinda 1911-ish looks, but you're probably gonna be ok with a 1911. Avoid Sig P320.>>64998080Glock would be a more practical choice, but being real there's 99% chance that the pistol is going to just ride in his holster his entire career, and in the event that he actually has to draw it, it's likely he won't even need to pull the trigger. If he does? Probably he'll get the time to fire one or two rounds and then it's already over.The fact that he has a job mandating him to carry a sidearm, BUT, that their approach isn't to actually issue him a standardized one, rather only "Hey, buy a handgun." suggests it's not gonna be anyone's high priority and high risk target.>>64998082RIA are overall adequate for economy 1911s. Get one with modern sights, polish down any potential sharp edges leftover, and maybe replace the grips if they don't suit you, then get CMC mags if you don't feel confident in the factory ones.>>64998216>>64998292He's not gonna be working at a nuclear power plant or naval base if they're making him buy his own handgun and don't even specify which kind. He's going to be looking after some place to make sure that crackheads don't come and steal their copper wire.
Y’all niggers postin’ in a troll thread
>>64999464between the holocaust and 9/11
>>64999188>Absolutely no security company will let you carry a 1911. Go role play somewhere else. Find me the sop of any armed security company in the country that allows the carry of single action semi autosAnon, I was walking out of my bank a few weeks ago, and the armored cash truck arrived. One guy had a S&W M&P and the other guy had a 1911. I believe it was the Loomis Transport Services.
>>64998030You could get that RIA but you probably aren't going to like that gun or any 1911 for a number of reasons.Because it has a steel frame and slide, it is relatively heavy. You have to wear that on your belt rig every day. A polymer framed pistol is going to be lighter.Low capacity.Somewhat higher ammo cost than 9mm, which is the standard. That means higher cost to you getting proficient with it.Manual safety, which is either a plus or a minus depending on how you train around it. You have to carry cocked/locked and sweep the safety during the draw. You can't safely carry it in a condition where it can be drawn and fired right away.A couple of issues specific to the RIA.It has older GI style sights that are very small and hard to pick up/use. If you get a 1911 you should really get something with larger, more modern sights.It is based on the older Series 70 1911 so it doesn't have a firing pin block. This is mostly fine, but there's a very remote chance of it going off if dropped.The magazines that come with it suck ass, get some Wilson Combat magazines (yes, they are expensive, deal with it) and shoot a fuckload of FMJ to break it in.Can you carry that gun?Sure. As long as your employer allows it.Should you?Probably not. Get a Glock or something like it.
>>64998030hello friends,Timely thread, OP, I have some questions around working security too. Maybe we can make this a se/k/urity generalLast year I made the decision to trust my life on the street to Second Chance body armor. I got the level IIa because it stops the most rounds. plus I got the Trauma Plate for the front.What scares me is that, although I can fit an extra trauma plate in the front, I cannot fit a second one in back. As of late I have taken to duct-taping a second trauma plate to the area of my back where the heart and vital organs are located. Then I put my vest on.Here is the questions. The ducttape solution, although tactically sound, is hot and painful to remove. I would like to go to the single-plate solution in back. What I am worried about is repeated hits to that area with .308 ammunition. I have a high-risk security job and I fear that I would be the target for repeated long-distance shots to my back.Are any of you aware of a thicker plate that could stop, say, .338 Lapua or something like that? Is there a better way to do the second plate?BTW, I am, of course, usually carrying a pair of ceramic plates in my briefcase so that I can shield my head. My SO (we work as a team when necessary) has a similar accessory containing a breakdown NEF single-shot 300 WinMag with an 18″ bbl. The plan is that I shield us with my body and “catch the rounds” while she assembles the NEF. I lay down covering fire with my 23 (Bar-Sto .357 Sig barrel) and she makes the long shots. I will then throw smoke grenades to obscure the area while continuing to lay covering fire. The problem, of course, is when I have to turn my back to run, and then the problem crops up.Thanks!
>>64999856I think an M113 APC would be your best bet for cheap armor
>>64999870>I think an M113 APC would be your best bet for cheap armorWe use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.Naturally, the regular security people are unarmed. We “RTFers”, by arrangement with the local police, carry high-strength OC spray and batons.
>>64998184don't listen to this turk shill his father was probably killed by an orkin man.
>>64999892Aka segways
>>64998253>getting struck by a car is a matter of when, not if.Maybe you're just a shitty rider.
>>64998861>TrueI tried to tell him. >>64998860>>64998979Univision had better coverage than CNN, which had stopped replaying the jumpers so people wouldn't get upset by falling bodies. Makes sense, right? They were protecting the SHEEPLE'S feelings!
>>64999008>Glock 19, VP9, Glock 17, P226, 92FS, CZ-75, CZ-P10, PDP, P99, PPQ, and hell, a USP, are better optionsI would get a Walther P38 or HK P7. Just for the flair. Probably a nice ostrich skin OWB holster and matching boots. Am I right?
>>64999294>Insurers HATE single actions and frequently refuse to cover posts that use themwhy? is this some kind of actuary specific fudd lore?
>>64999076>why the fuck not? Have some freedom of choice so take it.I don't think they get it. They all want to be special, but they all want to conform. Just like the Rolex Riders on Harleys. They want to look rebellious, but they all buy thier leathers at the same shops. I carry a 7.5" Super Redhawk in a crossdraw chest rig. Nobody says shit to me about it. Go figure?
If you're going to be cheap with your life you might as well just carry a Hi-Point
>>64999242Admittedly, a nice pistol.
>>64999331Proof. Post pic.
>>64999451Oh, I love this and want one in 9mm Dillon!
>>64999490Fuck you, Tonto. You lost, cry more.
>>64999686>He's going to be looking after some place to make sure that crackheads don't come and steal their copper wire.Fuck, FOMO never hit me so hard. Now I want copper wire!
>>64999856Post pic of SO, or never existed.
>>64999856>usually carrying a pair of ceramic plates in my briefcase so that I can shield my headThis was from the original mall ninja thread, wasn't it? It's been a fucking while.
>>64999972>I wear my authentic, oficially licensedドラゴンポール (that's dragonball to you gaijin) gi on the job as a bus driver. Nobody says shit to me about it. Go figure?
>>64998030instead of some fudd bullshit you can get the apex of firearm tech for just for 30 bucks more>20 rounds>easy to cc>non existent recoil with deep penetrating roundsits honestly the perfect spray and pray pistol. and when the checks start rolling in you can buy a second one and have 40 rounds ready to go,>if you miss 40 times you deserve to get raped and gaped
>>65000136Yeah Gecko45 is like 25 fucking years old now, which means those shitposts are probably older than most of the anons reading them which is why they didn't notice it was copypasta. Fuck.
>>65000166>you can buy a second one and have 40 rounds ready to go,>>if you miss 40 times you deserve to get raped and gapedWe're back to braces of pistols now like we're pirates
>>64998030OP, if you do decide to go the 1911 route be sure you invest in solid magazines and ammo. I'm very partial to Wilson Combat and Tripp/Cobra magazines, the former offers a magazine with a unique feed angle that bypasses the feed ramp, which helps considerably with cheaper/pickier 1911s. As for ammo, I'm very partial to Federal HST and Hornady Critical Defense. Both have closer geometry to the original ball ammo, which also helps mitigate feeding issues. 45 is definitely valid, and very violent with the proper ammo. 1911s also tend to be very slim, which helps with carrying. If you're hellbent on 45, HK makes some that are very reliable. If you're willing to look at 9mm options, the CZ SP01 tactical has the best ergonomics I've had for a duty gun.
>>64998216>>64998292As an armed guard who's done shit jobs to $1000 cash a day jobs. Trust me. That anon is not going to be protecting anything worthwhile if he's given the choice of bringing his gun. All the good companies with the next level contracts issue guns. Which is why I carry a Glock in 40 s&w against my wishes.
>>65000296Not in security but that was my first thought, what kinda shit job wouldnt issue their own arms
>>64998030Are they reimbursing you for the gun? A 1911 is fine but you’re going to need something more duty-grade like a Dan Wesson Specialist or a Staccato. Those will run you 1.8-3k. If price is an issue the other anons are correct that a Glock is going to be the way to go.
>>64998814Most gunfights consist of missing and shooting to suppress/overwhelm the other guy. A self defense situation either takes 1 or 2 rounds when you get the jump on a hostage taker or mugger, or becomes a protracted chaotic magdump. The 6 shot statistic is only an AVERAGE. In either case, plan for three shots minimum to put down a man + five times that if you miss, x multiply for the average number of gangbangers patrolling together in your local sidewalk at any given moment.
>>65000429>he doesn’t invest in critical hit%
>>64998184Personally, I would much rather spend money on the Flips than the Roaches if I were to buy a non-American 1911.>>64998226Qual should be easy with a 1911, assuming he doesn't go for GI sights.>>64998870>clunky rattlingService pistols are SUPPOSED to be rattly.>fire without magazine damages firing pinWhat in the fuck are you saying?>idiot scratchDon't be an idiot and you don't get an idiot scratch, it's so fucking easy.>worst fucking gun I ever have to disassemble and clean, by farTry an old Ruger Mk.1 or something and tell me the 1911 is tough and annoying to take apart.
>>64998914>And I call bullshit on OPs claim.It could theoretically be some kind of shithouse operation which doesn't actually have any real qualifications or licensing for armed security at all, and they're using him as armed security illegally.Which would probably be a pretty shady job.
>>64999008>and it jams quite a bitDemand warranty work from Colt.
>>64999076>Or a walther p38 if it has to be compact.Setting aside the tardation of carrying a Broomhandle or clone, have you ever even held a P38 or P1?>>65000002This is a really old copypasta.
>>65000429if 8 rounds of 45 isn't enough to end a gunfight you don't need 17 rounds of 9, you need backup from guys with 30 rounds of 5.56.
>>64999815Can't speak for your shitty state but I have drove for both Loomis and Garda, neither allowed 1911s or revolvers to be carried. Garda had issued sig228s and glock 19s. Loomis required us to provide our own guns.
>>64998030That’s a really good price for that gun But that gun isn’t good for security
>>64998030Pick whatever pistol you want, but with your first check grab a VR80 with a drum to spec out and keep in your work truck. Some crazy shits gonna happen over the summer, best not be caught with your pants
>>65000668I was at a big gun store the other day buying ammo, and went to check out guns. There was a guy eyeing these things and other turk guns like ot up and down, looking super interested. The man looked to be late 30s, and he looked like the guy who collects funkopops and would have to ask his wife's boyfriend before he could buy a gun. I kekd.
>>65000809nta but turk shotguns arent as bad theyre made out to be. I have the mac turkenelli and I havnt had any issues in the 600 rounds ive put through it. some company is supposed to ship out a spas12 clone I was going to buy but that might be fucked now until the iran thing gets settled...
>>64998030Springfield XD. Smallest/slimmest 45, ballpark that budget.
>>64998030OP,Why the fuck are you asking for a price?Won't they reimburse you anyway?What kind of place asks you to Bring Your Own Gun ??Get something in .25 ACP and buy a tophat
>>65000828shhh let Op blow his first check on his brazilshit fudd toy and get raped by joggers when it jams on him
>>64999972Is this you? Are you trying to kill people with cringe?
>>64998030>I got a job in security and they want us to be armed>I don't know much about gunssome men die of thirst.. others drownits not fucking fairwhat job do you have anon, let me fucking take it from you
>>65000809I work in a gun store with tons of gforce turk guns. People are nuts about them. I try so hard to guide them to the maverick 88 but no.
>>64999210It's true I'm a total gun noob and have no rizz
>>64999980Found it on desuarchive for you. Bravo, nutinfancy!
>>64998030Based on your IQ, I would recommend a polymer striker fired pistol like a Glock 19 or HK VP9. Really any of them are fine, just don't get a Sig P320
>>65001059Here's a version without the gay meme text
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>>64999244Oh sorry I'm not initiated in your little gun cult, you fucking queerYou probably dress up in military clothes and LARP as an "operator" lol. Fucking fag
>>65001077You sound mad.
>all these people arguingbro just needs to walk into a gun store and pick whatever he thinks looks coolest.>"but what about...."literally doesn't matter.
>>65001059>>65001064dude what the fuck
>>64998929Maybe Mr. Brother is tho
>>65000958Yo the new blade movie looking litty
>>65001260Woah the venator actually exists!
>>64998253I hang out with some physicians and they just call motorcyclists "organ donors"
>>64998030I won't recommend a gunhowever I would advise carrying two gunsalso avoid polymer 9mm's
>>64998030Glock 19 or GTFO faggot>>65001453>Consoom ze hipster slop you stupid goyim, I need more shekels!271k wasn't enough desu
>>65001467t low caste poor fagkys plastic slop chink shill
>>65001509>obsession with casteyou are brown
>>65001432For me it's the fact that a sizable chunk of this thread is "adults", who are somehow over the age of 21, having these full shitflinging matches over people having differing tastes and styles. Like, why does some autists having a deadset idea of what they personally want matter at all? Who gives a fuck???It's like watching 19 year old slags tear each other apart because they all didn't dress up the same for the club.
>Buy cheap gun>Spend extra money on Narcan (for yourself), first aid courses, and a small IFAK>Significantly improved outcomes compared to a more expensive gun
>>65000817>turk shotguns arent as bad theyre made out to beThat really varies, some are alright, but the truly janky junk isn't just made up.
>>65000852Its flip, it actually works, and fudds don't like pistols, you retard.
>>65001548you have plastic in your tiny yellow chink balls, DA/SA metal aryans always winning
>>64998437RIA's QC sucks. It's 100% Filipino cast pot metal. That actually matters on a 1911. You're going to have constant failure to feeds from dogshit fit and finish.If you want a full-sized 1911 in .45 anticoloredpeople for carry, buy a used Springfield Loaded off of some dead boomer's family on fuddbroker. The old GI sights are tiny and they suck.My Loaded has been really reliable as long as I keep it clean and use good Wilson Combat mags. It's my favorite handgun to shoot.>>65001467>just buy a gun made out of a perishable material that will become brittle and unusable within your lifetime>become dependent on replacement parts>disarm yourself generationally>don't buy wood and steel that your great grandchildren can pop glowies withnot today, moshe.
>>65001707>WOODNSTEEL SONNY>He doesn't know plastic is significantly more durable in the long termEvery time
>>65001727see >>65001509KYS low caste paki>>65001548again fuck off paki bot
>>65001727Source? Your fucking zoomer sissy faggot ass LMAOfucking faggot newfags I swear
>>64998080RXM if you want a gun that does the same thing but cheaper and better
>>65001583a lot of us are bored, posting from work. I get the need to throw stones and shit because you're bored but it's annoying. You're trying to have a discussion and some anon starts burping in your ear about being brown or a boomer or a zoomer or starts piping off about microplastics for some fuckass reason. A lot of unhelpful people here.
>>65001752t.malding shitskin jeet>NOOO IM ARYAN SAAR PLS DO NOT INSULT INDIA SAAR
>>65000166>with deep penetrating roundsNot with a 4.6" barrel LOL.
>>64998080Terrible advice, glocks jam in every attacked by a crackhead video.“B-b-but they were holding it wr-“ shut the fuck up.
>>65001854None of that shit matters for a security guard sidearm. He should pick whatever he thinks looks coolest.
>>65001727That's contextual as fuck and you know it.
>>65001707>just buy a gun made out of a perishable material If you were buying some absolutely Turktastic shotgun with 3D printed furniture or something, I could see the "perishable" part, but Glocks from the 1982 which still hold up as hard as they do now. Go lock at old Colt 1873 revolvers from their time with vulcanized rubber grips, that's a synthetic which still holds up well after a century.Your retardation is extremely impressive.
>>65002041Source on BLUED WOODEN STEEL being the most durable material on the planet?
>>65002065>>65002069KYS zoomzooms, next you'll be showing us your faggot dildo KEK
USP is plastic and it shits on and fucks the 1911 to death. Total plastic domination.
Man the jeets sure ruined this place.
>>65002074I'm older than you, kill yourself, schizonigger.>>65002069That was never my argument (stainless steel is hardier than blued steel, for that matter), just that plastics has both its strengths but also its weaknesses.Long time exposure to strong UV light is for instance pretty bad for plastics, which is why some kinds do particularly poorly in hot desert climates.>>65002076The USP may actually be even hardier than the Glock (and the Mk.23 is definitely hardier than any 1911 or Glock ever), while also featuring based DA/SA.
>>65002087>PLASTIC IS LE BAD!>except muh heckin wholesome mk23 meme gun, wholesome 100 chungus alert!Anon... I...
>>65002100Are you actually dyslexic?
>>65002118Are you a like trying to get people killed? YES.
>>65002303>Are you a like
>>64998030I don't really see why you would but I don't think it's a very good choice, anon.My thoughts, assuming that you're a poorfag:Get a LEO trade in G17/45/M&P 2.0>But I want .45 ACPGlock 21/M&P45/XD/Maybe FN FNP-45>But I want hammer firedSig SP2022, P22X if you don't care that it will be 30 years old and the finish will be raped at that price point, maybe cheap CZs or old S&W autos. >But I'm incredibly autistic and set on a 1911Look at Tisas or used Springfields. Possibly old Norinco 1911s too, they're not super nice finish wise but they're solid and can be had for cheap at times. Your needs might vary though if it 'has' to be a new gun, but I'm sure whatever company you're working for will have some way for you to get a Glock for below MSRP through the Blue Label program, and I'm sure that pretty much any manufacturer of duty pistols has a similar program as well, though I'm not a copfag so I don't really care about that stuff to know details.
I'm still waiting for someone to explain why insurance companies don't like sao. I thought the only reason uspsa doesn't allow it in production is because da/sa sissies would all get mogged by 2011s if they did.
>>64998030>turdie made 1911 If you're in armed security and don't carry a modern full size double stack appliance pistol you are literally a retard.
>>65002485muh hair triggerthat's why. You're a retard for not knowing this. DO NOT try to argue with me about this, I do not give a fuck about the fact that it's perfectly safe to carry a SAO pistol with a crisp trigger, I am merely telling you what the actuarial reasoning is.
>>65002570did anyone tell the insurance companies they're retarded though?
>>65002607That's where you're wrong. They aren't. It doesn't make sense to a gunsperg like you, but that's because they don't give one ten millionth of a fuck about you or anyone like you, they only care about making profit like any business. They make money by receiving premiums and not paying out settlements, and they aren't going to do something that according to their jewish actuarial departments might increase risk of a payout even a tiny amount. The rules are objectively good business for them, you're just looking at it from your perspective instead of the correct perspective.
>>64999972they talk about you behind your back but you are too autismo to notice or care so good on you.
>>65002735i would point out that while it is sort of retarded from the perspective of "gunfag who understands how to operate his firearm and shoot properly" the average american/average shooter is a subliterate retard who can barely align the sights or operate the safety on then $300 turkshit 1911 they bought from guns.comi am pro-gun pretty much without compromise but you also have to recognize that the average gun owner in america is retarded and probably shouldn't be around guns.
>>65002087am poorfag, you think the czp07 is a decent usp clone? Ill be honest i mainly just want to make a RE4 larp gun, but getting a reliable edc out of it would be nice too...
>>64998030Get a p320, it's the only automatic legal without a tax stamp
>>65001059>>65001064Is it literally a monkey?
>>65002735is the settlement if you die on the job or if you shoot someone by accident? either way it still doesn't make any sense. think of all the crayon eating marines that have used 1911s without difficulty. I think they were even the last branch to finally drop it.
>>649980305.56 NATO revolver
>>65000983when was the last time you saw sunlight neetanon? Security is the easiest fucking thing to get into, some companies literally mass hire retards off the street because they just need a guy with a velco badge to check employee IDs for warehouse wagies. Look up security and detective licenses in your state, most of this shit can be gotten with a 3 month online class
>>65002766I get you, but I feel that manual safeties and trigger safeties are fairly good at accounting for the lowest common denominator types, and you're reaching diminishing returns while making shit worse for people who aren't below average IQ.You can have a DAO automatic with a magazine disconnect, loaded chamber indicator, grip safety, the trigger dingus and a +25lbs pull, AND the big lawyer text on the side of it, and there IS someone who is going to manage to STILL ventilate his TV/wife/car/dog/foot/neighbor/etc out of absolute negligence. You can only account for the dumbest fuckers so much, at some point you need to take other proactive measures, like outlawing inbreeding, and banning MENAs and Jeets from immigrating to your country.>>65002848It'll be fine. I vastly prefer metal frames and hammers myself (I really like the Beretta, CZ, and S&W 'boat anchors'), but guns with plastic frames or/and strikers aren't going to GET YA KILT INNA STREET like schizoanon bawls about, like an old boomer forum resident.>>65003026It's generally much easier to get into unarmed security, which is the real Human Scarecrow kind of job, but you're probably going to do much of the same in MOST armed security jobs too. A dude with a gun in a holster is a pretty good visual deterrent alone.
>>65002848It's a fine gun but you won't be satisfied settling for a gun that is the the one you want to larp with. Save up for the USP instead.
>>65003335He definitely won't regret a USP, and it's going to hold up for a lifetime. High quality and rugged pistols, in all three calibers.
God i miss old /k/. Some dude shows up saying ANY GUN works for his job and instead of people pulling up Colt Walkers on gunbroker and theorizing if a taurus judge can fit sufficiently lethal dragons breath shells, its the same two copy paste redditor opinions bitching about him not following the super strict meta that totally matters for all the gunfights he’ll definitely be in. If youve got yours already, i genuinely cannot imagine why youd be emotionally invested in what some guy you dont know carries. Pathetic normalfag behavior to suit your pathetic normalfag carry pieces
>>65003432I'm sorry, anon. We all got old and cranky.
>>65002848Turk company called SAR used to make some pretty good USP clones, but I think HK sued the fuck out of em because I havnt seen one in a shop since the pandemic
>>65003432>you need to le carry le rawr xd random gunerino for le 4chinz updootz!holy newfag batman
>>65002065>1982 was a long time agoYou have to be 18 to post here.
>thread full of clowns who have never worn body armor and a gun belt for 60 hr work weeks.Op, if you're going to actually carry a gun for a living, buy a striker fired 9mm. They all work the same so buy what's lightest. Buy quality shoes and a quality gunbelt. More importantly, don't take the job it sucks.
>>64998030I love the 1911, it's my desk gun at the moment. I've owned several 1911s, possibly my favorite handgun of all time between it and the 92But if I were a poor fag needing to buy a gun for a security job and need to minimize cost I would just do picrel, that or just about any S&W, XD, Walther, HK, Ruger, Beretta, not Sig P320 (any other Sig, yeah), Taurus, etc.Most of those you could bet good money on it's just gonna work. 40S&W cause it's not a bad round (it just doesn't offer any appreciable benefit over the capacity of 9mm) and if you're trying to keep entry costs down 40 is the bastard child that'll save you at least $100 on the cost of the gun aloneI would not use a 1911 unless I was already confident in it's reliability, something that only comes with a decent round count without failure. RIA is hit or miss OOTB.I don't care too much about the capacity limitation because>a. it's statistically unlikely you'd ever need it and even then it's less likely you'd ever need more than an 8rd (45 auto) mag>b. I'd still have 2+1 mags anyway at leastWhatever you get, make sure to remember the gun is just one part of the equation:>extra mags>good Kydex holster>good belt>good mag pouches>lots and lots and lots of ammo>lots of dry firing>lots of practiceIMO it's better to shoot fewer rounds more often than a lot of rounds at once. For instance, if you buy 1,000 rounds (ammoseek) I'd tell you it's better for you to go to the range 10x shooting 100 rounds each time than it is to go twice and shoot 500 rounds.Your mileage may vary, just my $0.02
>>64999331The picture isn't the weird part, the fact he posted it online is weird...They recommend you take a picture if this ever happens, but it's just for you and your spouse, not the internet, it ends up in places like this...
Op here. Ive been doing my research and really considering my options over the last few days, and Ive finally decided to get a Taurus Judge. I figure nothing beats a literal shotgun in the palm of my hand, and I can get incendiary rounds too. Im picking it up from local shop later today, thanks for the help everyone
>>65004359Nutnfancy has the 'tism, please understand.
>>65005348good stuff
>>65004131Anon, 1982 was 42 years ago.
>>64998030Questions:1. Will your company help you with ammo costs, or will you have to buy your own ammo?2. Follow up to the previous question. Are they placing a caliber restriction on you: "It must be .45 ACP or 9mm"?3. Do you get a partner, or are you going to be placed alone in a near-zero risk area?
>>6500590944, anon. It's current year+11 now.
>>64998030Bro please just get a glock 19 or something
