/frtssg/ - Forced Reset Trigger & Super Safety GeneralPrevious:>>64899646What are FRTs:Forced Reset Triggers (FRTs) are firearm modifications that allow semi-automatic rifles to fire more rapidly by automatically resetting the trigger after each shot, while still requiring a trigger pull for each round. They increase the rate of fire without converting the firearm into a fully automatic weapon.AR-15 is the most ubiquitous platform with the most amount of options. Other platforms have other nuances.See it action:https://youtube.com/@juiceymedia1https://youtube.com/@poorboyarmshttps://youtube.com/@printshootrepeatDistributors:https://pastebin.com/WPdrbYKyFrequently updated list of platforms that offer FRT/Super Safety support or are currently in development.https://kg2g.github.io/FRTINFO/webpage/FRTINFO.htmlRecent News:- Thompson FRTs is released- ASDesigns ARC V2 releases early April- Atrius Super Selector support is Lee Sporting Lowers is introduced- PS90 FRT by FN Specialties is back for preorder- Hoffman (super safety developer) launches a support site for legal fees against Rarebreed.http://www.givesendgo.com/hoffmantactical
Forgot the subject again, sorry guys
>>65001857Based retard
Khalash bash is happening soon and as I said before, I fully expect a 3 position selector to be announced then.
Anyone know if a 3 position FAL is still being worked on? I need to blow 20 dollars in a couple seconds on demand.
>>65001906In development by Partisan Triggers
I am no longer asking. Someone develop a FRT for the ACR/Scythe. I would do it myself but I have 0 knowledge, experience, or equipment to make one
>>65001913Good. I have something to start saving for.
Arizona Regulator is fucking perfect for an M16A1, pretty much got it because I'd be able to keep the retro three-position selector. Shit's fun as tits.
>>65002445didn't have to do any fitting or anything? what lower and upper?
>>65002449Yes, the hammer was dragging against the front surface of the Regulator so I was getting burst fire on semi. I just sanded the hammer surface making contact and that fixed it up. Trigger reset itself is barely noticeable on "FA," felt like I had a legit A1.>what lower and upper?Upper I made myself with an NDS receiver and a Green Mountain 1:12 barrel. Lower is from McKay Enterprises.
>>65002465nice one! I heard some people were getting issues here and there, not exactly drop in
>look into whether or not anyone has made one for MAC 10/11s>find one>constant OOBsbuh
>>65002664I think this when it comes out, might work?https://old.reddit.com/r/3D2A/comments/1rmwx91/were_going_on_a_trip/
>>65001913My FALO awaits.
>>65002445Should work just as good in an A2.
>>65002684Interesting
>>65001852Has one for the UZI come out yet? I want to use my Group industries like it was supposed to be.
>>65002845not to my knowledge
>>65002634Yeah the QC leaves something to be desired but once you get it tuned you're set. Seems to the be the best stealth FRT on the market for ARs currently.
>>65002465>>65002445I heard it can work in high shelf lowers. That true?
>>65002845>want to use my Group industriesMy IMI Model A is ready.
>>65002862says it does on the site
>>65002862Yeah, but not pocket lowers ofc.
>>65002881Those are the ones with the wall between the trigger and the lower pin?
>>65001852>Thompson FRTs is releasedWhat the fuck are you supposed to put them in? Auto Ordinance guns are comically overpriced pieces of shit. Who else makes Thompsons?
>>65002960the FRT works for Auto Ordnance and Kahr Arms
FRT for Sub2000 when?
>>65002970They're the same company
>>65002996They are spelled completely differently. That's like saying Hummer is General Motors.
>>65002999
>>65002970So $2000 guns that barely function, got it.
>>65002996I'm just reading what's on the site>>65003005I just provide information
>>65002991probably closer than ever since ps90 progressive triggers have been figured out
>>65003012Your read of the market trends is appreciated.
>>65003081well thanks man, I really like this space and excited to see new platforms grow into something that really enhances the shooter's experience. I like to share information whenever I get it and update the list in the OP with said information as well, so if that helps you then that's pretty great.
More footage of the Duality Arms Co's 3 position PS90 FRT
>>65003218>as a jewel of gold in a swine's snoutProverbs 11:22.
ASDesigns HK Drop in Trigger update
>>65003402Pretty sick. I do like my AR trigger and the ability to use the normal mag release without having freakishly long fingers though. It’ll be cool to have “clone correct” MP5 lower though
>>65003218I dont wanna mock your woman but, mate, its time for some introspection.
>>65001852soooo whats the deal with florida? is it a no or a go? some ship FRT to me and some dont, seems like a grey area here
>>65001852Is this the ARHK? I like the look of the lever (assuming they make it matte black)>>65002445Can you pull the trigger HARD without it locking up or otherwise malfunctioning? Any issues with bolt bounce?>>65001917I am no longer asking either. Someone make a slip trip for the LAW ARIC that allows it to work with an ASD Arc-fire>>65001887Fucking hope. I haven't shot my AKs in a while. Spent almost a grand trying to get the three position to work. >>65003402>every roller delayedFuggin based. I'm curious how they're going to do SEF vs NAVY pack housing compatibility.
>>65004039Is that your gat anon? If so, what locking piece are you using? I'm new to all the MP5 specifics.
>>65004205I've been running a 90 degree. Gun is an MKE Turkroach AP5-P (MP5k)Locking piece is the RCM 90 degree. Gun cycles 124 grain blazer CCI brass without a can just fine, 600 rounds zero issues with the 90 deg and no can. I put the 90 degree in there to run with my SiCo Omega9k but wanted to validate good reliability without can and the 90 deg.
>>65004039>Is this the ARHK? I like the look of the lever (assuming they make it matte black)yes, this is a testing unit, I am sure it will be black on release
This guy announces 3 position AK FRT>I present you the M.A.K.G.A TRIGGER.( MAKE AKs GREAT AGAIN). Installed one on my 104 ur an ran smoothly.Web page should be up in a couple of weeks. Also this is not a drop in trigger,some minor adjustments gonna be needed depending on your ak. Unfortunately not all aks are build identical and the tolerance vary.https://old.reddit.com/r/ak47/comments/1s2liga/3_position_frt/
>>65003218Never seen a stable bitch with a fuckin elephant tattoo lmao. Not even gonna get into the rest
>>65003223>>65003885>>65005242not one post about the gun, god damn
Atrius G levers that works with geissele triggers is releasing tomorrow
>>65005248Oink.
>>65006177this isnt even my girl or video, I posted it as information. Duality Arms Co posted it on their IG.
>>65006188Well, somebody is fucking her. She's a happy lil' piggie!
>>65004231so its true that the 90 degree is for those who run both can and no can? I plan on using a can along with the super safety, so i bought an 80 degree, but Id like to still have the option to run it without a can too
I hate living in Florida so much, man. So many dream builds, just not possible.
>>65006177why does (s)he have a mustache? i don't think its the lighting.
>>65006511Women who have hair issues (think arm, moustache, etc) tend to crop up as a result of ovary issues. Usually cysts. It causes hormone imbalances.
Looks like duality arms co is teasing another platform. Some type of AK?
>>65002445>>65002465Aren't the devices supposed to be slotted into the upper receiver though? Maybe that's why you were having hammer issues since you were installing it like the Kabuto.I have a few AZR-A1 kits that I haven't used yet, and the hammer looks like a standard AR-15 hammer included in with the FCG, so there shouldn't be parts rubbing together in theory.
>>65006795>another platformSiaga?
>>65007175yeah probably, since it's a mamba trigger, it's 2 position only
>>65005248There's alot of problems there and none of them are related to the gun, I mean come on man>>65006177She'd struggle to be attractive even without the piggy piercing and the tattoos. It seems her eyebrows have advanced past the borders normal set by the face's non-aggression pact. Usually I can see a girl's natural beauty hidden under fat/tattoos and such but yoof, this one is brutal
>>65005215wow such cooldont care
>>65002861thats not "bad QC" you dumb fuck. they have to be hand fitted because not all AR's have the same tolerance.
how interesting. The ARHK is way more dynamic than I thought
>>65007310>She'd struggle to be attractiveI just hope none of this gets back to her. I have enough compassion that I don't want her feelings hurt, regardless of the candor. I feel she will ragret more that that horrible chest tattoo, in the coming years.
>>65007443Anon I'm talking about the Regulator itself having wildly varying dimensions from unit to unit. That is the textbook definition of a QC issue.
Looks like ARC V2 will support 4 position?
>>65010545wonder if they are partnering with stuff n things
I've been under a rock. My MP5SD has a ASD lower with a generic SS in it. What does the Arc v2 offer over the v1? I'm inclined to stay with the ASD lower over the ARHK from ASD, because holy shit HK triggers suck.
>>65011181arhk can be used in stock mp5 lowers
>>65011181V2 will offer more selector options, have 45 degree options and apparently slightly stronger?https://youtu.be/7hRZ9_oiNPAJuicy said smoother but that sounds like bullshitApparently 4 position option
>>65011214>look at video>everyone is mad about having bought a v1That being said, the smart move would be for ASD to either accept returns for a trade in (and sell v1s at a rock bottom price), OR give v1 purchasers a coupon for like 50% off the v2.
anyone put a frt in an RXM? not sure which one to choose
Is there anywhere that has the tx22 in stock at a remotely not insane price?The only possible thing I have found is a tx22compact for like 390 bucks, and at that point I may as well get the toro thing with the green dot I found on gubroker for like 650 as there is minimal compatibility with the compact from what I have read, and I don't see the prices changing but it seems like bullshit to buy at they price
>>65003218My launch day duality vector is still fucked so no.
>>65011799wow these really went up in price
>>65001852>Thompson FRTs is releasedWhere?
>>65012031>supply vs. demandIt's like an eco nom nom icks thang.
>>65012615Released by Kinetic Crossfire https://youtu.be/CQaQhBUHtGcthere is also an install video
>>65011799https://gunprime.com/products/taurus-tx22-gen-2-toro-4-6-22lr-barrel-3-16rd-mags-2-22rd-mags-110817
Anyone know the exact date for the Arc v2 release?
>>65012802early april
>>65012679Hahah fuck me, I have been checking for awhile now and actually found one for 400 (still the 5 mag version at least) but damn of course me buying it triggered an in stock wave. Thanks for sharing that though
Duality Arms Co 12G AK FRT in development
>>65012975Should I expect this to work with my saiga?
>>65012983probably not since it seems like he's developing it only for that gun, but it's possible that it would with fitting or something. You could ask him on IG
anything for a B&T GHM 9? thx in advance
>>65012990East Valley Tactical has a service that allows lowers to work with the Rarebreed trigger and uses their safety to allow usage in the OEM lower. ASDesigns is working on it as a separate lower to allow function with a super safety or ARC selector, this is not yet released.ammjsolutions sells a GHM9 FRT mod kit that allows for Rarebreed FRT Please check the github link the OP for footage
>>65012923Ok I'm less mad now at least the more expensive people had my FFL on file while the others did not, and since he is a kitchen one he can be sometimes hard to reach so there is some amount of time / money wasted getting a hold of him versus just being done with it all. That said, what is the go to solution these days? I got the optics ready version, and I know some people need extra weight on the slide, and there is some discussion on the frt causing wear on the gun, is it Worth 3d printing a ton myself to replace as needed of buy one of these v7 things that are apparently an odd design (although the company who designed is currently not selling apparently?)Also best weight kit or any other accessories to buy? Seems some people like muffin top?
>>65014265there seems to be a lot of options like metal striker housings some have weight on the back to slow down fire rate etc
Looks like there's a G36 FRT on the way that isn't just an AR15 fire control group stuck into a 3d printed lower. He claims it works in factory H&K packs and is 3 position.
>>65014772wow that's cool, do you have a source? I'd like to update the github list with it
>>65014799He's on Twitter. I think it's B Squared Manufacturing or something. The same guy doing the P90 FRT that is a drop in pack. There's a video on there of the G36 and it's pretty sweet looking.
>>65014836oh nice, looks like he's making one for the ump as well, I'll update the list with this information. Thanks for the heads up
>>65014772now I need to know what is the best way to get a g36, convert one? tommy built is out of the question. I know you can buy a receiver and build that or something as well
>>65014889Either you buy a parts kit for thousands of dollars and a S5 Tactical receiver or you buy a prebuilt S5 Tactical S36 gun and slowly replace the US made parts with HK over time.
>>65014892man that sounds annoying but the latter is probably the best option, I'll consider it
>>65014896For what its worth the S5 built G36 clones seem to actually run decent compared to the Tommybuilt contraptions.
>>65014265the one I was talking about earlierhttps://cicadaresearch.com/products/tx22-tombstone-1-3oz-threaded-weighted-backplate-rate-reducerthe FRT design has changed over time
>>65014265>>65015014something to add is all tx22 trips from my understanding damages the striker plate over time, the v7 damages it less. I would buy a replacement plate to swap out the oem one and run the FRT with new plate.
>>65015014>>65015046Thanks for that, I see they claim the v7, I assume it's no different than the v7 from odd that talks about how everyone else selling it are bad and we shouldn't buy from them (despite their site not accepting orders apparently? https://www.oddmfgllc.com/blank-2
>>65015352response from cicadaresearch>I sell a design that is made by ODD MFG (to be clear, it’s in no way produced by them) that reduces wear to the slide, some FRTs are shaped in a way that actually damages the slide internals and will result in the gun not firing. Some FRT sellers also don’t do the proper finishing process, most people get these laser cut so they come with some pretty insane burrs. They need to be deburred and polished to prevent damage as well. Ultimately, this finishing process is what you’re paying for, so don’t buy any that don’t looks deburred and polished. Mine are both, and I use a magnetic pin polisher to get a nice satin finish on the part as well. Purely aesthetic, but I think it may polish the edges that contact the slide parts a bit more as well. I have purchased from them before, they are g2g
>>65015368Noted, thanks.
>>65014923thanks, I'll consider it
>>65012975I have a Saiga 12 and 2 20 rnd drums for that.
I want a 90/180 "normal" three position frt. Which one is going to be the most durable long-term? Obviously hard to tell atm but I'm leaning towards the arcfire because it doesn't use any springs. But it uses a clutch somehow? This sort of thing would probably be easy for me to figure out if I could look at them in person but I don't know anyone who has one. Halp. Clingy goat pic for your pleasure.
>>65015677I personally think the ARC fire is the best on the market, there are easier solutions that are pure drop in, cassette or solutions that do not require trigger cutting though.V1 already lasts thousands of rounds but the V2 is even stronger according to s3igu2, developerhttps://youtu.be/P3Ws0mIWpfE
>>65015677No clutch or spring loaded friction mechanism. No springs at all actually. Mine has been very durable. The exact same rifle and setup that broke 3x Atrius levers has done 2000rnds with my V1 Arc-fire with me intentionally PINNING the trigger to the rear HARD trying to lock it up, and it works flawlessly assuming you have enough gas in the system. The Arc-fire V2 will have a 90/180 version.
>>65015828are you interested in the V2 at all?
>>65014772that's radI wonder if it'd work in a stock sl8 too
>>65002465>Trigger reset itself is barely noticeable on "FA," felt like I had a legit A1So are you guys still insisting that the ATF definition of FRTs is correct? You know, that agency which is infamously retarded and constantly fucking things up. Or do you still get really mad when someone points out that functional full auto with one extra unnoticeable step should still be defined as full auto?
>>65016320>get really madIt legitimately follows the LETTER OF THE LAW.
>>65015845Absolutely. I am super curious about the utility of the 45/90 and 45/180 deg throw setups. I've not completely finished the experiment but I have initial results that I'm relatively confident in which is that throwing the V1 lever all the way to the 180 position absolutely eats up around 0.09s-0.11s or so DIFFERENTIAL on a read up drill vs flipping to semi in the 90 degree position, and given that most people's bill drill ROF on semi results in say 0.11s splits AT BEST and 800-900rpm cyclic FRT or machinegun corresponds to 0.06s splits, it requires at least 3x shots for the FRT/MG to be equal to or beat the hit factor of a 90 degree flip semi auto, meaning for shot strings of 1 or 2x rounds, assuming the same standards of accuracy are achievable, a 90 degree semi auto beats out a 180 degree FRT/MG.But this is why the 45/90 V2 interests me is that it might result in the FRT/MG beating out semi auto in terms of hit factor for shorter shot strings down to 1s even because IME the additional ~0.10s of flipping to 180deg vs 90 deg is due to the "two vector" motion that needs to occur, while if you're just going to 45/90 it isn't two separate motions, it is the same motion for both positions, just less amplitude of actuation, so I think the time split will be significantly less if there at all.
>>65016602seems pretty robust
Does anyone know if the gmr ar10 super safety works with the psa sabre10a1?
>>65016320Why are you angry, exactly?
>>65017142I think if the dimensions are good>*The lower rear section of the bolt carrier must measure 2.20"+- in order for the Safety to work correctly. Using a 2.40"+- BCG can damage or break the lever. The upper receiver must be trimmed flush with the rear take down lug to give the lever the proper clearance. This is not a "drop in" part. We do not accept returns for modified parts.
>>65016320kys fed
>>65016320 >noooooooo you can't just comply with the law exactly how its written to highlight its utter stupidity noooooo
>>65016602Brother you don't need to compose a 30 page equation, everybody already knows full fun is better and there is 0 reason not to have it.
>>65017581>full fun is betterThat isn't true though in the broadest sense, and the experiment I'm working on is precisely trying to quantify for what situations full auto or facsimile full auto is superior to semi auto. >0 reason not to have itI more or less agree.
>>65017611are you taking a precision shot?semi-autoanything else?leave it on fullI expect my check to be in the mail
>>65017617>field analysis requiredI'll need a sponsor.
>>65016215He said it will.
>>65016320What's your point? No seriously I have no idea what your intent is.
>>65017991That FRTs are most accurately described as full auto. It's great that the ATF decided otherwise, but they're simply wrong. If Eugene Stoner had for some odd reason decided to patent an FRT for the AR, he'd have called it a machine gun and there'd be no debate on this today.
>>65018108Okay? And?
>>65018108>speculation about inside a dead man's mind from 60yrs ago leaves no room for discussionYeah.
>>65018108a trigger pull is a trigger pull, fed. cry about it.
>>65018108>If Eugene Stoner had for some odd reason decided to patent an FRT for the AR, he'd have called it a machine gun and there'd be no debate on this today.How could you possible know this? Are you off some medication you need to be on or are you just extremely autistic and have bizarre fixations that don't translate well to neurotypical lines of thought?
>>65018108The trigger resets each round. Cry more Boomer. Your machine gun collection is worth less and less as more FRTs come out
>>65018108okay weird but I'm more confused why you are seething over this instead of laughing about how retarded this makes the ATF and their regulations out to be
>>65018108You're a faggot that owns a transferable lower, aren't you!?
>>65018112And people are so enraged by this obvious truth that they're calling me a fed within two minutes of posting it. No arguments to be found of course. Oh, up to five replies now, let's go for the high score!
>>65018108So you don't know the history of FRTs, don't know the history of the NFA or the GCA, you don't know our current laws, and don't know anything about Eugene Stoner. Why comment at all? Sit down and read a book, zoomie.
>>65018128Big, if true. But, it's not. $37,000 Thompsons from 1928 will not go down in value. It is pointless to assert that.
>>65018144People genuinely don't know why you're butthurt over it or why you think you have a point. It's a totally senseless argument. What is your angle here?>FRTS ARE ACTUALLY A LOT MORE LIKE FULLAUTOYes? Like, that's the point? Who are you arguing against?
>>65018144oh no he's just a schizo, damn
The ATF is in this thread, fucking SEEEETHING.
>>65018159>Who are you arguing against?He argues with his own conscience and he's winning! Happens all the time.
>>65018149For point for the Thompson until someone makes triggers for the clones. No point in buying an M16 lower now due to FRTs and it could happen for Thompsons
>>65018173>for pointFair*
>>65018173>No point in buying an M16 lower now due to FRTsThe prices are plummeting, the FA market has been impacted hard by FRTs, and the leader of the lizard people did the fusion dance with Hilary Clinton to create a new race to be the new-new ruling class over the existing ruling class.
>>65018173>>65018178Doubt. There will always be a collectability market (finish). Absolutely true that form and function will be indistinguishable.
>>65018184>leader of the lizard people did the fusion dance with Hilary Clinton to create a new race to be the new-new ruling class over the existing ruling class.This I believe. Like when the human race was genetically manipulated by the reptoids on October 17th through November 21st in 120,746 BC. Poor Neanderthals. F and shit.
>>65018108The ATF never decided otherwise, it was the courts. The ATF absolutely tried to classify them as machine guns and would ban them if they could. They went after rare greed and them losing is what allowed us to be where we are with this renaissance of cool shit for guns.
>>65018197>we are with this renaissance of cool shit for gunsAgreed. Enjoy it while you can.
>>65017983hell yeah
>>65018203We'll have had 5+ years of mass proliferation before they have a chance to federally ban anything, not to mention current cases on the docket challenging the NFA. Bondi's an absolute cunt, and whatever dem that follows her will be worse, but good fucking luck with the millions of super safeties that have proliferated
Get hyped
>>65018144>And people are so enraged by this obvious truth nigger what the actual fuck are you talking about? where do you see anyone here angry that FRTs mimic FA almost perfectly, it's because they do that this thread even exists. fuck off schizo.
>>65019124I'm not a schizo, got dogpiled a while back for arguing this. Seems more people ITT accept reality now though so that's good. >mimic FA almost perfectlyNothing you are consciously doing is making the gun run at its cyclic rate, and as you say, that's the whole point. That your muscles are pulling the trigger is irrelevant, as they are needed to hold down a standard machine gun trigger as well. Therefore a well designed FRT doesn't just mimic FA, it is FA. A poorly designed one, maybe not so much.
>>65019293buddy you actually need help, you are screaming at nothing
>>65019293>doesn't just mimic FA, it is FAYou're a soi redditor faggot tranny or a woman. Any man with an ounce of mechanical inclination can clearly understand the fundamental and immutable difference between an FRT and an MG. Get fucked. >>65017617>anything elseIt isn't so simple and I'm excited for the data to potentially show this.
Glock frts worth a shit yet
>>65019490I think they are fun, but requires technique to run. It's not as intuitive as a ar15 FRT. If you pull to hard, it chokes up and you need to learn sweet spots and trigger pressure to run it well. With several spring tuning and replacing, I got it to run super well suppressed and unsuppressed in my glock 34 among all my friends and it's a blast to shoot.If you want a pistol FRT that would run with little to no technique, I would suggest the tx22
>>65019507Im looking to put one in my 34 with a flux brace i just remember last time i asked the early ones were bad
>>65019700they are the same today, there has not been any advancement on the glock FRT. The P320 FRT looks promising though, it doesnt use tilting barrel to reset the trigger so it should be more reliable.
>>65017142https://www.reddit.com/r/AR10/comments/1rq669o/fullsemi_308_working_on_sig_716i_without/Looks like the 716i works without modification, so I guess a follow up question is what does everyone think of the sig716i?
>>65020189that's cool to know, I dont have experience with this gun but I would imagine it would work the same as a PSA, if I wanted a solution that works, I would just get the Sig apparently.If you're willing to wait, there are other companies working on AR-10 solutions as well, but if you can't wait, then why not.
>>65017142>>65020189maybe check this out?https://old.reddit.com/r/supersafety/comments/1s67dsd/pa10_with_gmr_ss/>Had to remove some material from the trigger pocket and a lottttt from the lip of the upper receiver.
My as designs mp5 lower came in and the box came with two little allen keys, but it also has a silver screw that I didn't see where it would go, does anyone have any ideas?
>>65022347I believe this is for the ejector, my buddy has my lower atm so I can't check
>>65022371That's probably it, but my back plate is a crazy tight fit so not gonna take it off to verify, but that puts my mind at ease, thanks
Beretta CX4 FRT is available now for preorder, it's a 4-5 week waithttps://brellosolutions.us/products/beretta-cx4-storm-forced-reset-triggerThere are some modifications neededAlso they are working on the PMX so I'll put that on the github list as well
>>65018173Triggers are made for the clones, as pointed out earlier in the thread. The problem is that the clones are overpriced dogshit that jam even on semi-auto.
>>65006177Would
>>65005215>M.A.K.G.AHorrible name choice considering Mr MAGA himself banned bump stocks without a second thought. Would be really funny if he decided to go Boomer mode again and try banning FRTs too. I'd say hopefully these people learn some day but it seems they love the rape.
>>65023791based
>>65002664only ones I've seen have been for 3d printed lowers and rely on thin plates that wear out after 10 30rnd mags under the best of circumstances
>>65024410a new reliable design is in beta currently
Thinking about putting together another AR build - maybe a sbr this time. Thoughts on a super safety on a sbr?
>>65024431I have 2 SBRs with ARC fire in them
bump
KM3Solutions is working on a trip for the matador 9 uppers
SKS FRT will be avaliable for preorder April 20th by Texas Trigger USAhttps://texastriggerusa.com/product/norinco-sks-7-62x39-frt/Footagehttps://kg2g.github.io/FRTINFO/Footage/SKSFRT.mp4
New P320 FRT footagehttps://youtu.be/Q2A9eJjAgeY
EVT now has their conversion service availablehttps://www.eastvalleytactical.com/product/genesis-arms-gen-12-pds-frt-conversion-serviceFootagehttps://kg2g.github.io/FRTINFO/Footage/Genesis-Gen-12.mp4
Any AUGtists in here? I'm thinking about buying one soon and I'm definitely interested in FRTing it. How does that Red Star Palmetto trigger differ (if it does) from the AUGFRT dot com one
>>65027189>Norinco>Not YugoWell, happy for Norinco havers but hopefully other variants get their shine in the game.
>>65018860Hold up. Are those the options? What happened to the 45/90/180 lever?
>>65023771There is someone for everyone, anon.
>>65027319if you mean the 4 position
>>65027327That's exactly what I'm talking about.>Id be on the lookout over the next few daysSo will the 4 position be immediately available, or do I have to wait?
>>65027335sense I dont see it on the site, probably laterhttps://activesafetydesigns.com/ar15/
>>65027344>sensedamn I'm retarded, I meant since
>>65027344Well fuck. Now I'm not sure if I should immediately grab a 45/90 for my MP5 so I can be at the front of the line, or risk waiting for the 4 position which may or may not come out later.
>>65027212More options for the Gen-12, looks like ARC support is coming soon, requires a modified leverbeats paying 900 dollars and modifying the gun itself imo
>>65027577>>65027212something else to add is that the EVT service uses a ARC anyways so that's wild if ASDesigns sells the lever
Seems like there is a huge amount of platforms with FRT support with a lot in development. Anything you guys are specifically shooting for?
>>65027638Three position P365, 1911, G19 and clones, Keltec sub2k, rfb, rdb, cp33, p50, I know some are already in development. If someone could make a Beretta 92 kit that looked like the 93 and gave it burst fire it would sell like a pound of nuts
>>650276883 position is pretty tough since a new selector would have to be designed but yeah it would be cool
>>65027688p50 kinda already have 3 position FRT support with the stuff and things set
>>65027212I thought I had seen info that you can just drop in a 308 lever and be good to go? Obviously the arc lever complicates things but surely that's something they would sell?
>>65027173This is cool, I went with a generic ar9 due to this reason but I would love one of these uppers
>>65027638Get the SS to work with the BRP semi MG42 grip. It's already got a AR FCG with a push pin safety, and people have managed to adapt rare greeds to work.
>>65028318that would be dope
Desk pop's video on the UMP GDI SS lowerhttps://youtu.be/o9B3MifKSV0
>>65028032SS/FRT 308 is still not a solved thing seemingly, grey market is the only 308 super safety and it works for hyper specific bolts and uppers
>>65018173Nah, they will hold value the same way military surplus holds value. i.e. via being the real deal, genuine article. There will always be collectors with money who wish to buy a real actual Thompson SMG that isnt cucked and is a true unmolested full auto gun. Its the stuff like the pre 86' beat to shit AR-15 lowers that are registered that have been repaired and been through like 10 owners that are going to nose dive in value. Transferable MG's with true historical significance, like Thompsons, MP40s, etc will hold value. No one is gonna want to pay $25k for a lightning link or AR lower though.
Do binary triggers count? What's going on with this binary trigger court case in the midwest and does it affect FRTs?
>>65030983what do you mean by count?
>>65001852
>>65031500I mean do they count for being in the topic of this thread
>>65032624no. there's an incredibly niche use case for binaries now that FRT's exist
>>65030983Dunno why anyone would consider binary triggers these days, and they were pretty lame even before the SS and FRT became big
>>65032677wrong. they were actually pretty neat before. but yeah they are almost entirely obsolete now.
>>65032677They're legal in more places than FRTsAlso the 2 shot burst is superior to the 3 shot burst
>>65003005your alternative is an original for $30,000
>>65017611>>65017617>there is one end all be all answer for when full auto should be usedits extremely dependent on the gun used, the recoil, the firing rate, how much it weighs/its stability, etc.you can absolutely do precision shooting on full auto but it needs certain requirementslike an ar15 isnt as good in full auto for accuracy as an mp5 or a suomi, nor will it be as accurate as a pkm or an mg3and a 650 rpm ar15 will perform better than a 750 rpm ar15
excited to drop 500 dollars this friday