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>>65023695If you’re in line, stay in line They can’t make you leave!
Anyone else buy anything during the Tanfoglio sale?
What's your favorite magazine/way to reload? For me, it's speed loaders.
>>65023742trying to insert the last 3 bullets and having to strain so hard you're worried you're going to slip and slice your thumb against the magazine's edges
>>65023688What's this month challenger?>>65023752Try reloading old rusty Hi Power mags
>>65023729Yesterday, I post it in two threads ago, bought a Tanfoglio FT 1911, clean it and took it to the range, amazing gun, the trigger is great, apple size group at 25 yards.
What is your favorite handgun in the following calibers;.22, 9mm, .45 ACP, .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum >>65023783This months challenge is for me to not be even more reckless with money
>>65023742>>65023752If you shot more than a single box of ammo a week you'd understand.
>>65023787>.357 Magnum
>>65023816sorry wrong pic
>>65023816yeah that does look like s&w but likely better fit and without mim parts
>>65023783April fools, don’t go to the range but pretend you do
>>65023787>.22My great grandmothers wedding present, a prewoodsman>9mmMy glock 34>45 ACPMy 1911>357 MagnumMy 15-2 dan wesson, the 8 inch barrel >44 MagnumMy 629-5 4"
>innarange today>overheard retired military guy say: "Cops like when veterans carry. They know we're trained and we'd be the first choice if they ever needed to deputize people".
>>65023787>.22Ruger Mark IV Hunter>9mmA hard choice, but I would say Beretta 92FS>.45 ACPUSP>.357 MagnumSmith and Wesson 686> .44 MagnumSmith and Wesson 629
>>65023865I heard someone selling someone the M17 as the future of handguns and that the U.S. army adopted it
What's up with mec gar glock mags? Yea or nah?
>>65023888I once was checking out some gun store in the middle of nowhere PA and saw a used Browning BDA. I asked the only person behind the counter, an old man, if he knew anything about the gun and he said "It's metal" and walked off.Before I left, I hear a customer ask for ammo as he was going hunting and the store owner said they don't sell ammunition "due to the liability".What the fuck does that even mean
>>65023945>they don't sell ammunition "due to the liability".If I beat the shit out of you with this gun who's liable then, faggot?
>>65023935Nay, your saving all of 10 bucks whoopdiedoo. Better off getting the magpul ones.
>>65023865This is true
>>65023935I have heard that they can overtravel and damage your extractor but I don't know if that's fuddlore.
>>65023935Aren't mec gar top tier italian mags?>>65023974Usually anything your hear or read about X damaging your gun is fuddlore, like steel case 9mm damaging the extractor or the ramp
>>65023945I expect less and less from gen pop as time goes on. The fact that the average person can tie their shoes is a fucking miracle.
>>65023935They lack the Glock overtravel stop so be careful when using them in a 19 or 26 or aftermarket frame. There was a fiasco when using a aftermarket everything Glock with a trigger tech trigger, slamming in a magazine would cause the gun to go off. The trigger tech trigger was to blame mostly.For the new 15 round slimline Glock mags it seems that MecGar is the OEM manufacturer of them. Okay not really seems, it’s 100% confirmed from the ones in the wild.
>>65023695Nah my dude, I'm gonna STOCK UP. Don't you know there will be NO AMMO in a MONTH due to what's GOING ON in the WORLD?? A 1000rd case of magtech steel case just flew over my house!.
>>65023787>22 My grandad's old Sturm Ruger>9mmCZ Shadow 2 Orange>357 74 Colt Python >Fuddy FiveNighthawk Falcon or Wilson CQB>44 Mag6" Nu Anaconda.
>>65023996Yeah mec gar makes mags for a lot of different gun manufacturers
>>65023935Mine work great, but I already saw someone here post a magazine like that with a jammed follower.
Cleaned em up today
So I had my 1st IDPA match yesterday and absolutely had a blast. What is a good revolver to use for IDPA for fun? You can only have 6 rounds for revolver division so would a New Model 10 Smith be a good option or shoudl I go with a Ruger GP100? Maybe a Taurus and spend the difference on some speed loaders? I really prefer a 3 inch barrel.
>>65024112Gun oil or ballistol for a 1911?
>>65023935My only experience with Mec-Gar is shooting them with my Staccato. After 1,600 rounds through the gun (and about a dozen Mec-Gar mags) I had this malfunction this weekend.>pew pew pew>[stops]>hammer isn't cocked>"huh">rack slide>no round chambers>eject mag and inspect>rounds jumbled up about an inch down>used squib rod to clear mag jam>reload>keep shooting without issue
>>65024128Actually, now that I think about it more, the hammer was cocked and when I fired, it was just an empty chamber. Yeah, that makes more sense.
>>65023688>Mag Edition
>>65024009>The fact that the average person can tie their shoes is a fucking miracleThe era of shoe-tying is coming to an end. In the 1970s and 80s slip-on variations of shoes that were traditionally laced started to catch on, you can thank Vans for that. Since the early 2000s though it's been snowballing aggressively, and now slip-on/laceless/hands-free footwear dominates in nearly every category. Running shoes are the last major hold-out, boots are "competitive". Exceptions are made primarily as a style choice, lots of sneakers now have fake laces just for show. When you see zoomers with laces it's because they're wearing Nikes, and the untied laces are tucked behind the tongue, or they've been replaced with fakes. Shoe-tying, wife-beating, cigarettes, machine guns, a lack of AIDs, it's all boomer-speak now.
>he dont got the sticky fo he blickyThey do 40 clip cartridges now got zamn
>>65024180May I please have a link
>>65024161yes but you should include a sentence that opines off the those shoelace that were curly and when you pulled on them automatically tightened your laces
>>65024198I don't have the liquor for that, anon, not on a Sunday evening.
>>65024202apricot brandy like my grandmother would shoot you pussy.i miss you grandma. she died months ago but now i'm feeling it im such a stupid bastard i hate myself. from the badlands of montana no less
>>65024191https://gunmagwarehouse.com/ets-smith-wesson-m-p-9mm-40-round-extended-magazine.htmlhttps://gunmagwarehouse.com/ets-9mm-40-round-extended-magazine-for-glock-18-pistols.htmlThey only $13 nuh you aint even got to lose yo KFC dis week
>>65024212Haha thanks! I'm surprised they fit a Glock but delighted!
>>65023816Literally just a smith and wesson clone action for 6x as much moneyEuropeans are so fucking stupid
>>65024217>ETSThis shiet is going to get him killed in the streets!
>>65024208No I mean I drank everything I had and can't stock up until tomorrow morning. Sorry 'bout grandma.
i am becom sigger
>>65024254pro sigger, am jealous
>>65024127ballistol for outside and cleaning, lube the actual friction points with lucas extreme imo>>65024116yes actually I think you would see some real benefits with a partial underlug Model 10, it's the only .357 that doesn't come with a full underlug or a top rib as far as I know. Those are really bullseye/target features that don't help for idpa. 3" python might have a slightly better double action.
9mm and 40s&w prices on ammoseek are officially touchingboth 26 cpr, they are touchingit's so gay
>>65024127I use clp (forget the brand) for cleaning and motor oil for lube
>>65024329It’s over. I need to order more.
>>65024282^^ this guy is right if you have it. Hoppes is fine for all over if you don't.
>>65024432Hoppes is actually the worst oil I've ever used honestly. I ran it for over a year on parkerized steel parts and it basically did nothing to prevent corrosion/rust at all. it seems like a good oil when you first lay it on because it spreads nicely and the excess wipes off easily, but it dries super quick if it doesn't run off first. I think it's mainly meant for blued guns. I wouldn't put it on anything knowing what I know now, for friction areas I'd rather use clp or rem oil if I didn't have lucas oil
>>65023786Ever try rotating an apple in your head?>>65024066Kek I'm glad to see that faggot finally made into a basedjak>>65024127Dlead wipe for cleaning, coom lube for lubrication
I buy coconut oil from Costco (31c/oz), add a dram of wintergreen flavoring ($3) for every gallon of coconut oil, divvy it up into 4oz plastic jars from Amazon (50c/ea), slap a label on it (15c/ea), then sell them as gun lube for $14/ea. Nobody seems to mind.
>>65024465>parkerized steel parts>rust>hoppesYeah. Keep going, kid.
>>65024329Man, glad I bought at the beginning of the month right before the panic buying started.>40s&wWhat're the selling points for .40, anyway? I always hear the debate between 9mm and .45 (and maybe 10mm for woods), but I barely hear .40 get brought up nowadays.
>>65024501From my local .40 fanboy? Mostly that lots of LEO use it, even after the FBI abandoned it, and some people really like using what they use. In my experience, it doesn't give you anything 10mm won't do a bit better, or that 9mm isn't already basically doing.
>>65024501>What're the selling points for .40, anywayIt's between 9 and 45, but it doesn't matter as much as it's an indicator of panic buying - 40 sits where it was because no one is shooting it, it fell off.
I think I’m gonna buy an USP45
>>65024501Its a tried and true basketball american stopper, widespread use on the streets since the 90s by police to great effect
>>65024501>panic buy resistant>cheaper than most other pistol rounds>easily converted; 1 gun can fire 2-4 different calibers out of it
>>65024501I like it. It’s not metric. What else do I need to say?
Slide is getting caught on the guide rod flange. I replaced the main recoil spring, still happening. Anyone deal with his before? Would just replacing the recoil assembly take care of it? Kahr wants me to send the whole thing in, but I don't want to deal with all that.
>>65024748When it isn't caught up like an asshole.
>>65024748>>65024749Sorry. Kahr PM9.
>>65024748There are at least 3 different generations of recoil spring assemblies for the PM9 and they've all been problematic. I'd send it back to Kahr.
>>65024748Radius the inside end nut of the guide rod, you could do it to your gun inside the guide rod hole, but a guide rod is easier to replace than a slide. Just a slight angle with a dremel and clean up with sandpaper will do. Like change it from this | to this \
>>65024329why are retards panic buying ammo now
>>65024905Because they are retards that don't handload and didn't stockpile when ammo was cheaper.
>>65024945>just have no bills bro
>>65024618Trigger is mushy sold my uspc a long time ago
>>65024618It's a good gunMy issues are ammo and magazine prices
>>65023865>>65023888>>65023935A boomer once told me that 556 was especially deadly to an enemy combatant, because once the round enters the body, it zips and bounces around like a ping-pong ball.
Am I stupid for buying a Star BM in the big 2026? Used to have a Llama Model III-A that I sold and I miss having a small 1911.
are Beretta 84 Cheetahs officially considered Curios and Relics this year?they were released in 1976 so thats already 50 years ago
>>65025124Well, they recently came out with the 80x so it's still a tried and true design if they're still making it to this day. The 81bb I had in .32 ACP was amazing but having one in .380 would probably better.
>>65024992>I had bills dood, my funkopop bills, my pokemon card bills...
>>65024465Lucal oil makes a clp, I have some right now.
>>65024905Sometimes I wonder if people are so conditioned to panic buy every time something happens anywhere in the world that they just do it out of habit.
>>65025057When I got mine used the gun store just happened to have 5 used mags for sale for $20 each. I'm so lucky for this coincidence.
>>65025124Only the ones made in 1976.
>>65025127yeah the main reason is im trying to get my hands on one in california and since the C&E bypasses the roster im hoping it'll let me get a Cheetah
>>65025228FUCKhow do you tell them apart? serial number?
>>65025233Berettas have proof marks that tell the date of manufacture.https://www.bluefieldsports.co.uk/blog/dope-5/beretta-italian-date-marks-8The proof mark for Cheetahs are usually on the trigger guard. For example, this fuddbroker Cheetah has a proof mark of "AI", which translates to 1982. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1165997865For 1976, the mark is "AB". So look for a Cheetah with AB on the trigger guard.
>>65023935No issues with mine either.
>>65023695>be me>buy bulk ammo to try and save money>coincidentally run out of 9mm right when retards start panic buyingThis has happened to me 3 times now and I will never not seethe about it. Once during covid, the other during Biden and now again.
>bought before panicDoesn't matter at all, ammo is not collectible, if you shoot it, you'll need more
>>65025379I don’t believe you.
>>65025379>retards start panic buying>victim_blaming.exe
>>65025379>run out of 9mmBuild a stockpile that you never touch
>>65025379>covid, the other during Biden and now again.All three of these things were clear indications of what was coming. If it's that important to you then you need to stay on top of things. Don't forget you have midterms coming up and probably a million other things that the media will use to work people into a frenzy.
Which cz or clone should I get?
>>65025465You should buy a pre-B CZ-75 with no import marks and give it to me
>>65025467No I want a cz thank you. The mythical combloc gun no one could get which was really cool. I think they’re better than berettas
>>65025478Okay but it's not the 1960s anymore. You can grab a modern CZ at any gun store in the US
>>65025481>Modern CZ>Made with modern soft steelNo thanks fag
>>65025141I dont buy any of that shit, keep projecting
>>65025481Which one do I get though >>65025482Okay dude. You want soft steel? Go look at star pistols. Like butter
>>65025529>Which one do I get thoughThat all depends on you. Which guns do you already have and what do you like about CZs?
>>65025458I'm trying. But I shoot a lot of 9mm. 200 rounds per range trip is normal and that's at least once a month, often more. That means I'm burning through at least 2400 rounds a year. One day I will have to go full boomer and order a 100k round pallet and just fill my closet.
>>65025458I already have 1k of 9mm to start (again) a stockpile.I wouldn't mind having 3k minimum just to put aside.
>>65025544History and the trigger.>which do haveI have these in my keep-forever inventory:Betetta 92fsGlock 17Makarov1895 nagantDesert eagleModel 101860 army
>>65025548You should start reloading.
>>65025559Well the most iconic one would probably be the CZ-75 B then
>>65025478>I think they’re better than berettaYou can think that, but you’re wrong, both mechanically, and aesthetically.
>>65025517Youre the one projecting with muh bills.
>>65025584Ok NEET
>>65025587>When his hourly pay is in the teensGrim, keep stuffing that NEET strawman.
>>65025580It will be done. Wasn’t sure if I should get a rail model, Jericho, or a tsngfolio clone.>>65025582Having owned a beretta, it’s just a hard truth. Cz stock has a better trigger compared to a dressed up beretta AND it’s more aesthetically pleasing. I honestly want to see dressed up hi-powers next. Not that beretta’s are bad, but best analogy I can come up with is eating spaghetti for every meal. Yeah it’s spaghetti, but after a while it gets stale and there’s only so much variation you can do with spaghetti.
>>65025596When you get the CZ you will see you put it on a pedestal and it’s Eastern Bloc barely acceptable mid as them come handgun.
>>65025596Beretta owners never fuck with extended firing pins and lighter firing pin springs for a reason, the idea that a stock CZ is better than a “dressed up Beretta” is asinine.
>>65025576Reloading isn't cheaper than bulk ammo unless you're reloading for a weird caliber.
>>65025217If you were older than 17 and lived through some things you might have perspective. Imagine not remembering Thursday morning lines outside Walmart.
>>65024992If you are so broke that buying a box or two of 9mm every week or so is going to be the difference between paying rent and getting evicted or going hungry, maybe you should try to get a better job and improve your living situation before you start trying to stockpile ammo. Or at least get on food stamps or something.
>>65025232Some of them bypass the roster apparently. I'm getting a Type 3 for ammo, but a Star bm9, the cheetah, and a p38 are on my want list. I want to feel like I'm threatening Rockford. What 357 curio should I get? And what 38 snubby?
>>65025633I'm trying my best to clean up my financial situation.
>>65025636There's been time I would only shoot 22 because no money
>>65025627>Reloading isn't cheaper than bulk ammoUhh...
>>6502562738 special and 357 Magnum aren't weird calibers and it is much cheaper to reload that shit. Of course, you are correct when it comes to 9mm and 5.56. Of course, if I had a 9mm revolver, I would probably handload for it. I just hate trying to find and collect my brass after shooting semi auto pistols. Nobody makes a decent brass collector for pistols.
>>65025653I'm about to panic buy primers and rmr nukes
>>65025636I hope you make it bro. I really do.
>>65025653It's not. Price it out. Primers are the real killer.
>>65025640Personally I think there's just way too much going on to even "just" shoot .22
Ive watched enough Caleb Hammer to see where this conversation is going.
>>65025662ThanksI just want to enjoy this hobby
>>65025664>Primers are the real killer$0.06 per primerOnce fired brass is free$0.10 per bullet$0.03 per powder chargeWhere are you finding 9mm for $0.19cpr right now?
>>65025687Same place you got your numbers, the past.
>>65025615>>65025604Seethe more. Probably going to end up selling my beretta.
>>65025695>the pastNohttps://freedommunitions.com/products/xspp-b5000https://ravenrocksprecision.com/product/x-treme-9mm-355-115gr-fmj-bullets/https://www.powdervalley.com/product/winchester-231/
>>65025720BTFO! >>65025695 is a dumbass. If you say price it out, actually do it to verify your claim like reloader anon.
>Reloading for 2-3 cent savingsThis is the real dumbass here. At least Im saving 20+ cpr on the ammo I shoot.
>>65025706https://youtube.com/shorts/h1LCxnhfo_Mhttps://youtu.be/Aa5FX1aHF5o
>>65025664>Primers are the real killer.You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about>>65025706>Probably going to end up selling my berettaStop trying to make your gun your personality
>>65025819no
>>65025720Since you seem knowledgeable, what basic setup should someone get when starting to reload? One round at a time.
>>65025872RCBS, Hornady, Lyman all good. Lee single stage presses aren't bad, but they won't have the longevity of more $$ presses. I like Lee dies for certain things like factory crimping or .003" undersized dies for getting "Glock bulge" out of range pickups.Come visit /rg/ >>64980130
>>65025872NTA, not a reloader but researched it from the perspective of reloading pistol calibers The more money you spend on a nice press the more ammo you make. A fancy progressive press does multiple tasks per lever pull, single stage presses you only do one stage. I was going to buy the Dillon Square Deal since it’s designed specifically for pistol calibers (straight wall only) and you could get it in a package with all the accessories for a specific caliber
>>65025636Best of luck with that bro. Been there myself. Not easy to get out of but possible.
>>65025899>not a reloader but researched it from the perspective of reloading pistol calibers>The more money you spend on a nice press the more ammo you make. A fancy progressive press does multiple tasks per lever pull, single stage presses you only do one stage.No.New reloaders are way more likely to fuck up with a progressive setup than a single stage.Get the fundamentals down first, then go to a more sophisticated press.
>>65025872No matter what you reload or how you do it: get a powder check die. It's a tiny amount of money in exchange for a life with both eyes and 10 fingers.
>>65025910Good point, but I’m built different
>>65025819Retard
>>65025720>doesn't factor in brass costRETARD ALERT>inb4 "get your brass for free from the range hurr durr"Yeah I like having my guns NOT explode. Thanks. Fresh brass or reliable factory ammo brass only.
>>65025687>Once fired brass is free>because new ammo doesn't come with brass
>>65025928Naw bro, the brass is free, you get it from the air.
Without sounding like a woman, tell me what exactly is wrong with the Echelon
primer flow boys… we out here
>>65025933It gives me the ick
>>65025687>>65025720>didn't factor in shipping (PRIMERS ARE HAZMAT!!!)>"hurr durr get ur mystery meat brass for free from the range floor"
>>65025933You asked a few threads ago and nobody said anything bad. Buy the fucking gun if you want the fucking gun.
>>65025687>pay 22c for an 9mm round>reload it 5 times at 19c / ea>19.5cprI guess if your time is worthless I could see the appeal. Not pretending like I wouldn't if I were already reloading other calibers that actually make sense to reload, even if it means working for below minimum wage, couldn't help myself.
>>65025933I've never heard anyone here badmouth the Echelon. My LGS was selling them brand new with 4 mags for $699 last week and they sold out almost immediately
>>65025928>>65025930>>65025938>being this retarded on purpose
>>65025941During the chink-cough and 9mm was astronomically high, it was absolutely worth it. We're going to see higher 9mm prices again. These things come in waves.
why are you as a white man reloading your own ammunition when some poor turkish man thousands of miles away could be doing that for you?>hard mode don’t mention your penis size
>>65025933Too expensive for what it is.
>>650259559mm isnt going that high just from panic buying from speculators.
Vortex Defender line or the Holosun equivalent? Pls respond.
>>65025963It will when government institutions start building it up and the only way to get 9mm is to roll your own.You better not come here crying when that happens.
>>65025941>if your time is worthless>he doesn't watch reload while watching TVI bet you can't breathe and wipe your ass at the same time.
>>65025970>2011+15>delta point pro footprintI seriously hope you guys don’t do this
Last week, 5 rounds at 7 into the X, rather disappointing 25 round group barely all in the black
>>65025972I wont bet money on it.
>>65025992This week I switched to Speer Lawman since it was the cheapest, last week was federal, I think there’s a slight shift in zeroing but again I could just be bad at shooting slowfire
>>65025933>is a Glock clone>doesn't take Glock mags>proceeds to get raped by the RXM>echelon fanboys eternally showing up in the comment sections of RXM videos
>>65025996>t.
>>65026002You lost the arguement that badly huh
>>65025947What makes you think reloads are equivalent to factory ammo when you don't include all the components you get with factory ammo? You fucking dolt. Reloads factoring in the cost of brass are equivalent to factory ammo. If you were earnest at the very least you would take the cost of brass and divide by four re-uses. But you're not interested in an honest discussion, faggot.
Boondock is such a mid wit, the military's special purpose ammo is Hague compliant because the copper jacket persists into the cavity instead of exposing the lead. This bullet construction improves accuracy because the weight's shifted rearward for a more level orientation in flight so terminal expansion is plausibly incidental to the ballistic properties of M1153.
>>65025933Imported Glock clones should be cheap. The Echelon was made for high margins, it was made to be a rip-off. Buy the RXM, or really buy just about anything else because the Echelon is so overpriced it puts you in the range of numerous other perfectly good guns that aren't made by HS and weren't designed to be a "more profitable replacement" for older models.
>>65026016Haven’t we been using “hollow point” 5.56 for a while now? Honestly we should be using acid or bacon grease filled hollowpoints, or explosive tipped 7.62
>>65025933Nothing?>>65025970I'm of split opinion. On one hand I respect Holosun more because my failure rate of Vortex is higher than Holosun. On the other hand, Holosun's warranty is as utterly pathetic as Trijicon's where Vortex has a no BS forever lifetime any reason warranty. So maybe the Vortex will conk out sooner? But they'll replace it forever.>>65025985They cum in 2 footprints
Best grips for a Ruger Redhawk? Specifically for shooting
>>65025999Do you prefer the big trigger shoe on your 2011s? Most people seem to like the shorter ones.
>>65025985Defender CCW comes in RMSC
>>65026020>it puts you in the range of numerous other perfectly good guns that aren't made by HS and weren't designed to be a "more profitable replacement" for older models.List those guns
>>65026013>pick up brass you fired>reload itIt's called reloading for a reason.Stay mad, waste your $. Go ahead, do it.
>>65026036Yes, I have no idea how people shoot the short ones.
>>65026053Post your reloading setup.
>>65026021>hollow point” 5.56Yes, the military adopted Mk262 under the same rationale which is why it's designated "open tip match" instead of BTHP.>bacon grease filled hollowpointslol
>>65026013Goddamn are you dumb.>>65026006>losingAnyone advising against reloading doesn't have gun owners best interests in mind.
>>65026063If you want a timestamp I'll post a timestamp
>>65026083NTA but you'd have to value your own time at zero dollars to be using a single stage press.
>>65026051Echelon starts around $540 though I think I've seen as low as $500. The RXM starts at $400, APX is around $340, the FN 509 is under $500, a CZ P-09 Nocturne comes in around $500, P-07s are even cheaper, the P365 exists, an M&P 9 Shield comes in around $400, you can get a G43, G43X, G17, G19, or G45 at or under $500. That's without getting into the weird or cheap stuff, there are a LOT of guns on the market for at or under $500.
>>65026089I watch TV while I reload. And save a ton of $ while doing it.
>>65026083Alright credit where it's due. You're still disingenuous for not calculating all costs. Fired brass isn't free, you paid for it one way or another.
>>65026081>AAAAA DA JOOS DONT WANT ME TO SAVE A FEW PENNIES PER ROUNDWhat an exhausting mindset
>>65026101Takes me 8 hours to get through 1000 rounds on a six stage and thats me taking my time and enjoying it over saturday/sunday.
>>65026117>Fired brass isn't freeSee this? It's 2 years worth of range pickups left from other members of the clubs I'm also a member at. Guess how much it cost me...$0.00
>>65026127>Free brass at the range I pay money tp useWew lad
Do you need a G17 mag spring for a G19 +2 rds OEM?
>>65026130If I didn't reload, I'd sill be shooting there...You are fucking dumb, boy.
>>65026127In all seriousness, how do you verify you're using good brass and aren't putting the 12th round through a lucky case? Is it obvious when a case has been through multiple reloads, are there signs you watch for or specific things you do to test the brass?
>>65026135Says the mongoloid who does all this to save a few cents, maybe 30-60 dollars total.
>>65026093Thanks. I've had reliability (FTF and FTE) on the MandPiss shield.
>reloading>risk of explosion>increased led exposure>tool investment>time investment>all for ~$60 savings
>>65023688Trigger is pretty bad but otherwise pretty nice.
>>65026140Brass that doesn't polish right, doesn't fit properly in the shell holder, doesn't pass a chamber gage after resizing, needs trimming for 9mm or .45 (I have so much I just put over length ones in my scrap bucket) or splits in the case mouth expander. There's several steps where I decide if it's bad brass.>>65026141Post gun with timestamp.I'm starting to think you don't reload because you're just plain too dumb to do it.Come visit /rg/ and learn.
>>65024155P Series mag hoarder gang
>>65026148>risk of explosionPussy>increased led exposureWash your hands>tool investmentPoorfag problem>time investmentI have passive income funding this...
>>65026162>There's several steps where I decide if it's bad brass.That's kind of what I was hoping for, that there would be various signs along the way that could make you decide against using a particular case. Neat, thanks anon.
>>65026166
>>65026166>seven mags is hoardingten times that wouldn't even be hoarding
>>65026169>I have passive income funding this...>I expose myself to needless hazards to save $60Looks like you've had enough lead exposure
>>65026182Lol noguns
>>65026182>he doesn't reloadFag.
>>65026187post guns (you won't)
>>65026182>lead exposure
>>650261629mm reloaders arent worth the effort really, you will never value your time.
Where are the guns? Post more guns.>>65026196Just considering using 357 SIG components to load 9mm (they use same components) makes me nauseous.
>>65026191Timestamp now.
>reloading 9mmNGMI
>>65026229>he doesn't reload for every caliber he ownsDefinitely not going to make it.
>>65026234>he reloads 22lrWhy
>An afternoon to save 30 bucks is worth itHoly shit lmao
DIY ammo makes sense for precision handloads or cartridges that are out of production. Churning out FMJ slop is just cringe.
>>65026153how is it bad? is it because the shoe is so short or is that colt can't put together a good 1911 in 2026
>>65026175Did I imply 7 was hoarding? 10 per weapon is a reasonable start.
>>65026209That's not a gun.
>>65026240I don't own a rimfire, but yeah even I wouldn't reload for anything not centerfire.So sure yeah even I wouldn't attempt reloading for .22LR even though I have 500rds of 9x19mm upcoming in my reloading schedule after some .357s.
>>65026242>30 bucksFor 9mm it's more like $100 per 1000rds now for FMJs. Even more for JHPs.
>>65026250>500rds of 9x19mmhow long does that take, including final inspection?
>>65026257Wrong
>>65026182>Bro, what if you accidentally consume the lead or powder?
>>65026258That's about an hour of work on a progressive, two to three for a standard press.
Is the Enigma worth it? Does it really mean you can carry anything anywhere? Does it make conceal carrying in warmer weather easier?
>>65026276Wrong
Finished this thing off. Got trigger job done and replaced the grips with ones that wont just fly out of my hand. I do like the new 686 mountain guns.
>>65026279https://concealmentlabs.com/concealment-liner.50 Concealmentbucks has been deposited to my conshillment acount.
I might do reloading for my 45-70
>>65026258>how long does that take, including final inspection?I don't time it to the hour, but casually working on it it would be over the course of a few days.I deprimed, sized and cleaned the primer pockets of over 5,000 .45 Auto cases and that took me most of season 1 of SG1 across a few days. So like 14hrs-ish. About 6 press presses a minute, one every 10 seconds because I'm watching TV.Doing the math and assuming priming the brass takes about the same time if I'm slowly doing it, I estimate 500rds would take me around 7hrs on my single stage press at a casual rate. And that's all while paying partial attention to watching TV.
>>65026279yes, yes, yes>anythingit excels at small guns, but for big guns it makes a big difference if you set it up right
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>>65026279>>65026290if you buy the leg leash from phlster or make your own, you could make something like the enigma but probably more modular and accepts different holsters easily without having to unbolt them from the faceplate.
this whole argument could be solved with >i enjoy reloading, it’s fun, and I like the small money save>okay good for you I’m glad you enjoy it
>>65026306Anyone discouraging any sort of reloading doesn't have gun owners best interests in mind.
>>65026306So the ammunition manufacturers themselves?
>>65026306>he thinks he's on redditMy opinion = truthYour opinion that isn't in line with my opinion = trash
>>65026306That would be against the script though.It's always lead exposure, $60 savings, time wasting when could be working, etc...For some reason the browns are against reloading and their troll farms are fairly persistent.>I save more per box of 9mm than they make in a week.
>>65026191Lol noguns fag
>>65024254I have always wanted an SP2009/2022 after holding one at a Gander Mountain 10ish years ago waiting on my rother to get out of their shitter. But then I remember I really have no need for one.
>>65026361Want is all the need you require. Buy everything you want and sell it if you don't end up liking it.It's not like guns are losing value.
>>65026352>save more per box of 9mm than they make in a weekIf that's the case than I probably have more than their year salary in picrel lol
>>65025632I think you missed my point but it’s okay.
>>65026376>fmj fnhuh
>>65026374Eh, I am on an FRT kick for real guns and a 10m air pistol search for not real guns atm.
Want my first handgun with a dot.It will be a striker fired 9mm.I’ve pretty much narrowed it down to the budget option as the P10c OR and the expensive option: the VP9a1 k.I feel like I could get a better dot with the money saved on the p10c.On the other hand, if I get the VP9a1, I will have the paddle mag release which I’m used to since I shoot my USP 45 a lot.
>>65026381They come in .45 Auto weights, but I think they can be used in .45LC if you want to load it in a levergun tube mag on account of the flat nose.However, I also think they're meant to punch paper like a semi-wadcutter could, but it's an FMJ. SWCs I don't think can be jacketed due to the shape. And you can't fire lead or plated through a ported barrel that isn't countersunk. I got these in 185gr and 230gr to shoot through my ported P220 barrel with 231 powder to make fireballs.4th of July loads.
>>65026405oh OK thanks for the qrd
At least reload jhps or something guys.
>>65026415Take what I'm saying with a grain of salt as they could be intended for .45LC. I don't see why they'll wouldn't feed in a .45 Auto but I haven't loaded any yet.
>>65026436Winchester sells .45 ACP FMJ Flat Nose as Ready or red box. It’s my preferred .45 but its a little bit more expensive
>>65026436>but I haven't loaded anykeep us posted!
I shoot a lot of .38 and .357 Magnum. If it wasn't for my friend reloading my brass, it would not be financially possible
is Zhongshan OOTE Optics Co. LTD a reputable brand ?
>>65026525>SECDES - Zhongshan OOTE Optics Co.,LTDSECDES NUTS
>>65025379>running outbad move>buy 1,000 rounds at a time>restock every time you get down to 250
I have 5,000 9mm and 5,000 5.56 that I won't touch unless it's TEOTWAWKI. Everything else is nebulous
>>65025933>Glock clone>Not cheaper than a GlockAre you stupid? What's right with it?
Let me guess, you need more?
At what point is ammo too much? like literally causing issues with your subflooring or joists. Especially if you store it in the same room/area.Assuming you go by the recommended load for square feet based on normal housing standards, if it is a closet or something would probably not be as much as you think.Plus 45ACP and heavier rounds weigh more than smaller rounds.Would be a good Gemini question probably. How many rounds is "enough"? 10k per caliber? 20k per caliber? 2k per gun? Obviously normies might only have like a few boxes, so maybe 100-150 per each gun. Assuming you train and shoot maybe 1k rounds a month per caliber, or at a minimum a few hundred a month, youd need to restock 1k rounds every other month to maintain maybe.
>>65026684I need less. Of that fucking thing. In my vicinity.
>>65026684Is that an Echelon?
>>65026127So you're counting on brass stolen from someone else. Yeah that's totally equivalent to factory loads where you steal part of each cartridge. Like I said, you've been disingenuous from the start.
lol
>>65026716it's good to know that the secret service protecting the dems are retards just like the DEI ones protecting trump
>>65026716Don't these guys carry little flashlights?
>So you're counting on brass stolen from someone else. Yeah that's totally equivalent to factory loads where you steal part of each cartridge. Like I said, you've been disingenuous from the start.>t.Shut up rajanamaNo more direct replies for youYou don't even own a gun, let alone reload
>>65026352Some people probably enjoy reloading for the sake of it. I love cleaning guns because it’s fun, not a jump to think people would enjoy reloading because they find it fun. Especially since there is money saving. People saying reloading is retarded are themselves retarded. People saying you must reload or you are retarded are also retarded.
>>65026716sig moment
Best modern .45 ACP revolver go
>>65026741S&W model of 1986
>>65026741SAA clone with conversion cylinder.
>>65026737>People saying you must reload or you are retardedPeople who claim it's not worth their time to reload and still bitch about ammo prices are the truest of retards.
>>65026743Wrong year, it’s “ the Model 625 was introduced as the .45 cal Model of 1988”
>>65026741Ruger Redhawk
>>65026748good way to save some money for sure
Accidentally fucked up a target stand with my buddy's new, uh, handgun.
>>65026716>leaves phone in the damn trunk of a vehicle>decides his best course of action is to use his fucking weapon light to help search>forgets that holstering is free and manages to shoot himself in the assThis is precisely why military and law enforcement used to be super anal about having manual safeties. It takes time and effort to try to raise the average competence of an organization, and there will always be retards who can't be helped. So it's often just easier to make it more difficult for retards to not hurt themselves than it is to make them not retarded.Anyway give me a 17 or 19 with a manual safety, Glock. Weren't you fucks already looking into it during the MHS trials?
>>65023816>Spoor>Made in Germanyheh
>>65026897You don't need a manual safety if you actually train
>>65026917>You don't need a manual safety if you actually trainFact. I'm just so used to having trained with a manual safety that not having one feels wrong. It would also probably cut down on the shitposts about Glock leg, but that's not something I really care about.
>>65026897He lost his phone. What makes you think the mfer is competent?
Omg OMFG, it's happening! Hope you all panic stockpiled 1,000 rounds before this crisis.
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>>65026976His ammo sponsor Fiocci is out of stock. Biggest ammo shortage of our life is happening now. Buy now, or regret later.
>>65026985I think you should kil yourself in the most painful manner available.
>>65026972>These videos brought to you by big ammo
>>65026972>stockpiled>1,000lollmao
>>65027033I'm with the boomer on this one
>>65026972I fucking hate sootch man
>>65027006>>65027019>>65027033You're too poor to afford 1,000 rounds of ammo. You wouldn't even know what to do with it if you saw it. Probably cum your pants and run away shidding and farding and crying. It's too late now though. The beginning of the end has already begun.
>>65027047s00tch is a pretty cool guyEh shoots the hood of his own car and doesn’t afraid of anything
>>65027062post guns
>>65026684I do actually need just a little bit more. Not much, just an rmr cut.
>>65027074post hole
>>65027074
>>65027096lmao
>>65027096How many yards was that?
>>65026716>he didn't have a separate flashlight in his EDCCarrying a flashlight could save your ass huh?
>>65027165>>65026716I didn't carry a flashlight until now, because phones have flashlights built-in. But, if I were to look for the phone, in the dark, well. The only other flashlight is on the gun. This is a mistake to learn from.
>>65024228I would never recommend a new S&W revolver, but after working over the action of a 986, it felt pretty similar to a Spohr I got to handle. The Spohr is nice, but I don't know if it's $3000+ nice, and a problem with all of the commercially available high-end European revolvers is they're just meant for target shooting. At least Spohr makes a 3" model, but it weighs more than any comparable model from S&W or even Ruger. The Korth Sky Marshal was probably the coolest European revolver sold in the USA, but it had such a short production run that it basically doesn't count.
>>65023816moar liek .357 fag-DUMB amirite? amirite? iamrite.
>>65024208grief is like that. that's why apricot brandy is a thing.
>>65025559>keep-forever inventory:For me it's been:Any form of the Glock 19Beretta 92FSS&W 638Sig P226USPRuger Mark IV HunterS&W 686
>>65027202eh screw it I also include the:Glock 17Glock 26VP91911629M17
>>65025933idk it just gives me the ick
>>65025933It's not a Beretta or an HK.
>>65027216This. If you take off your shirt and I see one of those tucked in your pants then you are definitely not getting laid that night.
>>65025933why tf did they call it echelon
>>65027267It gives you the 'ech
>>65025741Some niggas just hate their life.
>>65027272>no one on /k/ has done 'ick on 'echthis board is dead
>>65027339>people that can afford guns and ammo aren't complete fucking degenerate losers I'm shocked too.
>>65027202>>65027208>I'll just keep everythingI'm paring it down to basics for "I'd never get rid of that">Prewar 1911>CSX-E (gotta have a favorite carry gun)>SW 17-6I was tempted to include my Mark 23, it's cool and all, but I can't say I wouldn't sell it some day. It's worth more than I paid and it's not a bucket list gun anymore like a long barrel Mateba.>>65025741This. I have a reloading setup for rifle rounds but I'm not going to waste time reloading 9mm. I MIGHT reload .357mag some day, but I go through ammo so slowly with revolvers that it's not worth it now.>>65027238>Berettayawn>HKoverpriced
>>65027346>everythingI have nearly 28 handgunsI'm just narrowing it down to my personal favorites
>>65027346>>65027355I also wanna add that it's pretty much>Full 9mm Glock suite>US military handguns>HK>.22LR gun>my revolvers>my two favorite CCWs (638 and G26)>The P226 being that fucking good
>>65027355>nearly 28So 27? I have 8 right now. I haven't counted everything I've ever had but I've sold most of what I've owned because a lot of it was just getting to use it and then deciding it wasn't worth keeping vs trying something else. Notable examples of this include>Luger P08I overpaid because it was my first bucket list gun and it was nowhere near as fun to shoot as I expected. Felt great in the hand, very meh trigger, had some reliability issues.>various sig, beretta and HK full sizesJust didn't do it for me. P226 was probably my favorite of these but I really had no use for it since I never carry a full size and I have an SBR for home defense>G34in the end, it was just a bigger glock>P229 in .357 sigFell for a meme.>G20Fell for another meme glock>P320 Kind of ashamed of it, but it was cheap. Wasn't very good and I dumped it immediately when they started making the news to minimize my losses>PPKThe most memed gun, muh james bond, what a fucking turd>Hi-Power9mm 1911 but worse in every wayUpcoming guns I will inevitably overpay for and sell out of disappointment or boredom>XR9S>Semi custom 2011>P7 (unless someone lets me shoot one first)>C96>Model 500but hey, at least I got to rent a deagle instead of buying one and being disappointed.
>>65027392I value all my guns for various reasons.I hope one day I can like a Hickock45 but for my own grandkids and I can pass all of my collection, handguns and all, down the generations.And hey, if I have no one to pass it to, I'll just request to be buried with my top 5 handguns, my favorite shotgun, and my favorite rifle
>>65027346>CSX-EBeen fighting off the urge to buy this for like two weeks now
>>65027346Not him but same, I got 1000 9mm bullets and I’ve just been sitting on them for over a year because I can’t be bothered.
>>65027456Anon, I won't judge, but, do you shoot? Maybe, 22 sometimes?
>>65027529All the time. I’m bringing 250 rounds of 9mm this weekend I’m just not reloading it. I have 100 .45 reloads left and I’ll probably do a couple hundred more sometime this week.
>>65027541Oh, I'm retarded, I thought you meant you are not using your massive hoard of 1000 rounds.
>>65027626I’m not using it. I just buy 9mm. I’ll reload it when 9mm hits 50cpr.
What's everyone drinking this lovely Monday night?>for me it's Adolph's Banquet Beer
>>65027831Whole milk
>>65027831Nice estrogenic goy drink and even nicer gun anon. I'm drinking a water.
>>65025634>What 357 curio should I get?>curioRevolvers can also be exempt from the roster through single action exemption.>buy gun>convert to single action>dros>get gun>convert back to double action>???>profitBasically any revolver is fair game except snubbies, since single action exemption has an overall length requirement, which most snubbies are too short for. So for snubbies, you have to get C&R.>And what 38 snubby?Detective special.
Please help. I'm all over the fucking map. For modern 9mm handguns... I currently have a Tactical Toblerone APX and a Sig P365X with a Holosun 507K X2 on it. For some reason I've been thinking I want 2 more guns. A DA/SA with external safety for nightstand/home defense duty that I could later throw a red dot on it and use my X300U. Second gun I've been trying to convince my self of anything other than a Glock 19 MOS. However I fingerfucked a Gen 6 and other than the grip angle which I know I can learn.... I like it. I checked out the PDP compact and was unsure but liked the trigger. I really liked the PDP full size 4.5". What are the current recommendations here? Suggestions for a DA/SA? I feel like I should just get a G19 Gen 6.
>>65026214What labeler do you use for those lables? I don't want to have to download another app, but I am also sick of using stickers and a sharpie.
>>65024748I emailed Kahr. Let's see what they say. I know it's not fashionable but I like it. It's a solid pocket 9. Are there any others just as small?
>>65028096https://www.brother-usa.com/products/pth110
>>65028112The DB9 is similar overall, a little longer/taller but skinnier. Sits in the hand a little nicer than the PM9 but that's not saying much, they're both very small.
>>65028135Oh nice, no app needed! That's perfect!
>>65028112Hows the trigger on Kahrs? I wanted to get a PM45 a while back, but could never find the model I wanted in stock. Can you restrike with them?
>>65028148The generic tape refills are cheaper and just as good too
>>65028140Thanks. So it's still totally viable as a pocket 9. Cool. Seven rounds of 9mm vs ten rounds of 380, I don't know but 9 is pretty good.
>>65028150It's different, you'd either like it or hate it. It's a smooth consistent pull, not too heavy, and there's no wall. It just breaks. The worst part is that the trigger needs to be let out all the way to reset it. You can get used to it, but you'd like it or hate it.
>>65028165I'm a revolver guy so I could see myself liking it. Nobody stocks them locally so I can't find one to feel the trigger. I always wanted a 45, but I exclusively carry J frame sized guns and the Kahr is the only pocketable 45 that I know of that has any sort of reputation for being reliable.
if i ever needed a new beretta slide where would I be able to get it?does the official beretta website offer replacement slides?
>>65028276Gunbroker often has like new slide assemblies.
>>65028046For a home defense gun, grab an m9a4. Then you can easily slap a dot, light and and suppressor on it
>>65027831Nobody cares.
>>65028417Not him but I would love to make an M9A4 my HD handgun along with a FN 545
>>65029048Migrate whenever
