Post gear, discuss gear.Cutting Edge / New Shit EditionOld: >>65023454
/gq/ Infographic Emporium:https://imgur.com/a/gq-infographic-emporium-1-00-1lZ5xw6Legacy Infographic Reserve: https://imgur.com/a/k-infographic-reserve-AIKzwWF>Last time on /gq/, RMA became the lolcow of armor and discontinued the XRT. Gilliam released lame-ass ICW plates. A2 did battle with Anon on whether dump pouches are ass.>QUICK ARMOR GUIDE 2.165CODE: * = active NIJ-cert, ^ = NEEDS SOFT ARMOR, DND = do not drop, ** = military.>Special Rifle Threat (M855A1, no M80 <44mm BFD):Budget: Hesco T212 or L211Mid-Range: Hesco M210High-End: Hesco U210 / U211, LSAPI**, or Tencate CR-6450SA.>CONUS Minimum (M80, M855, M193):Budget: Expired Hesco 3611C, surp SAPI**^, or Gilliam 6001Mid-Range: Hesco 3612* or 3810*High-End: Hesco 3811* or 3811LV^DNDElite: Used Cercom CER-EMH**^>CONUS Medium (M80 + M855A1 or BZ API):Budget: Used Protech 2120-5Mid-Range: Hesco 3411* or LTC 19513High-End: LTC 28780**Elite: VelSys PBZSA** or LTC 28791** or Hesco SC3812Elite-Plus: Used Ceradyne MH3 CQB**^DND (10x M995) or used Cercom CER-SOPS**^>CONUS Optimal (M855A1 + M80A1):Budget: Highcom 3S9 (SAPI-cut)Mid-Range: Used LTC 28550** / 28590** or Highcom 3S9M* (SAPI-cut!)High-End: Used LTC 28595**Elite: Used LTC 28570** or VelSys TSA**Elite-Plus: Tyr XHA4/S6/T(DND) or GEN 6 LTC TSA**>Level IV / CONUS High (.30-06 M2AP):/pfg/: Used Protech 2014G or Gilliam 1023Budget: Hesco 4403* (bare minimum)Mid-Range: Hesco 4601* (+ Level III) or surp ESAPI**^ (REV. G-J preferable, adds M995 / 3x M2AP vs 1x)High-End: Hesco 4800(DND), 4800LV^DND, or Protech 9812-R1(DND)Elite: Tencate CXP-800 SA or Ceradyne SOF ESAPI MK.II**^DNDElite-Plus: Ceradyne SAEC**DND(??)>Level IV+ / CONUS Extreme (Various)Budget: Protech 2230 (fast M2AP, $300/set used)Budget-Tungsten: Gilliam 8002 (.300 Winmag Swiss P AP)Mid-Range: Adept Colossus (7.62x51 Swiss P) or REV. C XSAPI**^ (M993)High-End: Rev. D XSAPI**^ (M993+)Elite: ECSAPI** (M993)Elite-Plus: Ceradyne 96034** (7.62x51 Swiss P)
Well in terms of new shit, Adept Armor wrote an article about combat drugs.https://www.ade.pt/chemical-endurance-the-pharmacology-of-russian-military-stimulant-programs/
>>65046593Will give this a read in the morning. I need mysterious Russian chems to finally quit nicotine.
>>65046593>no free lunch We have an insider at adept it seems.
>Just talked to them. They said the XRTs were a limited run and they have no plans to sell them again.RMA XRT is apparently no more. Now RMA has... nuffin?
>>65046837The 1165 I guess? Hard times at RMA rn.
>>65046435Op pic is bad ass.>>65046593Drugs are bad, mmmkay?>>65046802>quit nicotine.Good luck, anon. Next alcohol, caffine and swearing. Happy Easter!
>>65048103HE IS RISEN
>>65048103Thanks. Was going for a Scarface vibe with this one.>>65047904Not even. No drop pro (RMA literally prohibited Buffman from ANY drop testing - if it's that weak then it has a "mailman problem") and the 10x12 is badly undersized with bottom corner cutouts. It gets jacked up by the Militech RF3 Black and on paper the Longfri 4SiCMH. China vs RMA unfortunately favors China, because RMA has said and pulled so much sleazy shit over the years Militech is frankly more reputable. Even Buff prefers Militech plates and he's a huge RMA stan. Militech, Longfri, and RMA have an equal number of currently 0101.06-certified ceramics. Zero.The 1165 and new 1155 are what I would call "noob trap" plates. Ditto for the ESRT, Highcom 3S9M in 10x12, 4SAS4, 4S16, and RSTP. One only buys the noob traps if they're a noob and don't know the "tricks" manufacturers pull to make shit seem lighter. Unfortunately an anon or two has been burned by the 1165 because they didn't know how to work areal density and figure the plate has no drop pro.
>>65048185Christ is king.
>>65048185>>65048232>God bless us, everyone!", Tiny TimHave a Blessed day, bunny men.
>>65048268May your day be blessed and your armor drop protected and not steel.
>>65045425Do yourself a favor and to the VERY end of this fuckers ANNOYING voice to the summary. ChillGo carted @$24/ea.
Update on the hydration infographic, it got corrupted so I'm gonna have to redo it.
>>65048103Happy Easter! I will never return to church, but this does not stop me from celebrating Christ.
>>65048329Nice. Thank you level 99 chinamaxxer.
>>65048329Don't you dare talk shit about the farmer, he's a gift.
I see news of the Ceradyne SAEC plates has reached reddit. The top answer is that they are made by Ceradyne.
>>65048364I always try to catch a good Bible movie. Alternates being Jesus Christ Superstar, The Passion, and Godspell. Anthony Quinn surprised me in Barabbas. And Harvey Kaitel had a very interesting portrayal of Judas in The Last Temptation of Christ. The Ten Commandments is a great movie, if you can sit for 3+hrs. A great sea battle. 2yrs ago I was at a service where the Bishop (yes, Bishop) said his more unsusual question ever was "How much do you love God?". His answer was, "Not as much as I should, and not as much as He loves me." Theme: https://youtu.be/yFsnptQEWvM?si=cm1wRGgbgBNc7fyq
>>65048418Here's the summary of what's "known" about the SAEC so far, for anyone curious. 1. It's a super-high-end Ceradyne made ostensibly for DEVGRU and 24th STS around 2009-2013.2. It weighs four pounds for a 10x12 swimmer (ergo 4.2lb SAPI M). It is standalone and does not require soft armor.3. It is concealable, so under 0.75" thick. Drop protection is probably sketchy. Also, because it's a late-period Ceradyne there is a possible delamination concern.4. The ebay seller decided to complete the transaction off-ebay with some dude for five thousand dollars (pair). Kinda shady IMO but ok I guess since these are hot as hell.5. The blurred part of the label is actually sanitized. "NSN" is XXXX-XX-XXX-XXXX. This is very alarming because even Ceradyne plates made for Delta (96034) and ordinary SOCOM plates have NSNs.6. The rating is hotly debated. Going off the capabilities of other high-end Ceradynes, the language on the back (enhanced concealable), and the existence of an Enhanced Concealable SAPI which provides ESAPI performance but in a concealable thickness (hint!) this is an extreme featherweight quasi-Level IV plate. at 4lb 10x12 Swimmer, it is the lightest Level IV of all time aside from experimental Boron Suboxide or Polycrystalline Diamond models.
>>65048098Do not redeem the $1,000 digital NV.
