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>>65185614>>65184560Don't forget to vote!
the ar15 is solved and its a solgw with a sig red dot and a dji mavic
>>65185629>SOLGWWtf. Explain yourself.
>>65185629you forgot the HICAR 84k psi upper and M855A1+
>>65185627
Hello Armed and Retarded General. I bought an MR556 because i had too much money. I am installing an FRT because it is cool. How do I take off the selector lever on this thing? I assume it's this roll pin. If so what size? 3/32nds?
>>65185680>selector lever pinned in placeTop fucking heh
>>65185680Bro I have bad news...
>>65185689Well?
Retard here I need help. Got a new Rearden plan B suppressor mount. I tightened it too much I think and now the conical piece on the right is stuck on my brake. Not sure how to twist it off. Considering I don't plan to ever switch the brake off this gun and keep it suppressed pretty much most of the time, I guess it isn't much of an issue. But I would like to install it properly
>>65185614Loved the Tour of Duty TV series!
>>65185680Yeah its a tiny rollpin
>>65185695Its ligma.
>>65185680>what size?Just hold a punch up to it and if it's too big get a smaller one.
>>65185629>DJIYou can get more for less, which is the based way to approach drones. ELRS is often easier to implement too on the more DIY looking ones as they're all screwbuilds.
>>65185752>Comparing a nazgul to a DJIYeah why would you buy a Glock 19 when a SCAR 20 exists?
>>65185762>nazguljfc is that really what they're called? I love lotr but I hate nerd references.
>>65185762If we're larping hard we're not rocking handguns are we? What I linked costs less than a Mavic and can do more, which should satisfy the nay sayer from last thread who complained about economics. I could buy a Fatshark headset, Radio with a Nomad or something on it and multiple of these things for the cost of some Mavic kits and have a couple hundred bucks for batteries to spare.
>>65185772All of these things have pros and consYou dont discount one on account of another.>>65185768Chinese people naming things after LOTR is funny
>>65185736I do not have a roll pin punch. I need to order one. That's why I need to know what size to get. I guess I could just order a set and trial and error it.
>>65185797A roll punch set is $12 on amazon.
>>65185797Nigga it's a set, you don't buy them individually. Get this and be done with it.https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N4RG023
>>65185797Should be 3/32"Just buy a full set for $10 at harbor freight.
The "all I can afford">Radical Firearms RF15>Replace buffer tube spring, bolt carrier group with Geissele parts>Magpul vertical grip>Magpul mags>Your choice between LPVO + Dot or Romeo/Juliet sights>Soft nose ammo>Spray painted camouflage>Flashlight duct taped on>CAT around the stockAm I missing anything?
>>65185828Common sense, mostly.
the carpenters fucking suck >>65181188>>65181302>>65183356unironically most swag rifle posted in this thread consistently
>>65185782>Chinese people naming things after LOTR is funnyAgreed. American companies doing it is cringe.
I couldn't believe seeing 168 new posts when I got home. Now I see. Jesus you guys really argued about this for hours?
>>65185841At least his Supdef lower is milspec. Fixed trigger guard looks as dogshit as snake oil Jims gay rollmark.
>>65185943Be honest this general has been dead without superfluous gear talk and the sticky vicky meme has gotten stale.
>>65185841ive been saying this for years
is 14.5 the new 16"?
>>65185947ITS STILL FUNNY TO ME DAMNIT
>>65185841>700 dollar fag lowerkill yourself retard
Aside from cost, why would I go for a minimalist plate carrier over a load bearing one?
>>65186073To larp as a gray man, instead of larping as a high speed operator.
I've already got an Aimpoint PRO, so I'm already outside of the bracket of buying high tier glass, but I have to ask. How dogshit is this and would it be workable? Since there is no way I'm affording the real shit for awhile.
>>65186079have you looked into getting a drone operator license?
>>65186079used one, theres a reason they are $180. its not as bad as like a Burris 1-4 but it isn’t as good as a PrimaryArms budget lpvo
>>65186079They are pretty bad>ive already got an aimpoint proWhat else do you need?>>65186073Depends on how you intend to integrate it with other gear and use it.>>65186089>licenseI bet you drive the speed limit
>>6518605413.9 is the new 14.5 which was the new 16
>>65186093That's the thing, I really don't need anything and I don't have a range where I would use a scope either. Just one of those back of the mind "I WOULD need it sooner or later" kinda deal.>>65186091I'll keep it peeped, thanks.
>>65186138>I really don't need anythingThen why the fuck are you even entertaining the idea of buying a shit scope? If your goal is to just make poor financial decisions, then just buy it and fuck off. That way you can come back in a month and complain that the scope is ass. Get a grip, retard.
BB was right.
>>65186160About what?
>>65186170About pulling the trigger and getting bottom surgery.
>>65186174A hezbollah drone already gave that brown settler bottom surgery.
>>65186073The bulk mainly but weight is a secondary concern. A lot of people load their carriers down at first and then over time you figure out what all you really need.
>>65186079They should have always been that price.
>>65186136The fuck does 13.9 do, shit sounds pointless
>>65186194it has the same velocity as 14.5 but is slightly shorter
>>65186196How does it have the same velocity if it’s slightly shorter? That’s just untrue
>>65185621Thanks for including me in coalition member, might I ask the context of that? I haven't been on /k/ for a couple months, been busy IRL>>65185704>HK416D>D>D for dirty gun>>65186198https://www.admmfg.com/blog-velocityIt's marginal enough for most to not care at all
>>65186212>contextI don't get it either. Founders? I'm not even an oldfag by /arg/ standards.
>>65186212Yeah but then you’re stuck with a gimped 13.9 and having like a long ass muzzle device anyway unless you have it as a pistol, in which case you should’ve just gone 11.5
>>65186223Maybe because you posted arounded the time he started the collages.>>65186225This is true, which is why I have a 14.5 (the can has been swapped with a Polonium-K, Ventum lives on a 16in LSW now)
>>65186225oh I'm so sorry sir, reddit is down the hall.
>>65186242>aroundedHoly shit I'm retarded, lmao
Are they making pin and weld illegal or was that just guntubers clickbaiting again?
>>65186245Projecting
>>6518625416” shall inherit the earth
>>65186242Umm, excuse me. Get that thermal off your rifle right now. A2 said thermals don't work with acogs.
>>65186257nigger you're the one getting a penis inspection from the feds
>>65185828Do not do this
>>65186093>Depends on how you intend to integrate it with other gear and use it.I just want something I can do whatever I need with.Was thinking of the SHAW ARC V2 w/ MSR cummerbund especially since they have it in tropic
>>65185841Don't boost his ego
>>65186291I have an arc v2, and I will say, it's a great carrier. It's not exactly minimalist, if that's the way you were leaning.
>>65185828>Replace buffer tube spring, bolt carrier group with Geissele partsThat's a weird choice. I'd change the barrel first and really you don't need to get a g$ bcg just get a microbest.
>>65185828A BCM upper and a on sale PSA lower>>65186274Sometimes that guy just says the darndest things
>>65186302I had to adjust the thermal to work with the acog, maybe a2 didn't do that and that's why he thinks you can't do it? It's still wouldn't be my first choice though.
>>65186254My understanding is that an ATF agent unscrewed a pin and weld job with brute force until the muzzle device and threads came off, and decided to classify it as an SBR. It was one isolated case, but some people think that it could have ramifications for the future.
>>65186312The courts slapped that down right? Was the person convicted?
>>65186307The thermal is a supplement aid personally; the grand larp will never happen, societal decline will be slow and painful, but in the event it somehow does and ROE is nonexistent when its tooth and nail:>See white/red vertical blob>Chevron on vertical blob>Squeeze trigger until hortizontal blob
>>65186223>imagine being a founder but also not a member of the high councilPATHETIC
Can I get a quick run down on how everyone is doing? I've been in a coma
>>65186348Big boss is fighting in lebanon right now
>>65186347Don't pull rank with me I'm on there too.
Do I get a tropic or multicam plate carrier?
>>65186348My elbow kinda hurts. I need some BPC157 from Ash
>>65186370Where do you live?
>>65186312I want these people to suffer
>>65186370MAS Grey
>>65186370Coyote brown
>>65186370ranger green
>>65186373>Where do you live?Innaforest where M81 would work good in summer but I want something more modern & available
>>65186406>InnaforestWHERE do you live? Give me a state, I'm not asking you to post your address. You know what? Fuck it, I don't care. Get ranger green, because you live in da trees. You fucking retard.
>>65186414New England >ranger greeni want a camo
>>65186414123 Gay Bitch St. Please don't come rape me my door won't lock.
>>65186406M81 is probably as accessible as MCT. Regular old multicam or ocp works is way more realistic and versatile anyway. Buy something cheap and test it. Also consider you can buy your nylon in multicam and vary your combat attire to the environs. >>65186414Lol
>>65186416It doesn't matter because even if we give you the perfect pattern for your micro niche climate you still will only be able to buy gear in mc, rg, and cb.
>>65186435MCT is available.Sadness not as available as MC thoughI don't want a niche unobtainium camo pattern
>>65186444>I don't want a niche unobtainium camo patternngmi
>best looking modern camo>no one makes gear in itI really just don't get it, it's basically a modern M81 and works great innawoods
Whatever I'll just do standard MCWish I could get shit in Tropic but a lot of manufacturers that USED to make stuff in it no longer will (looking at you Spiritus)They're overpriced but their saving grace used to be they made gear in all MC variants.Any MC variant will blend pretty well into each other if you want a different color uniform though
Well I was THINKING about getting a 16" AR-10 but even .308 is $1 a round now for the cheap stuff.I just want the STOPPIN POWAH
>>65186488Get pwned battle rifle LOSER
>>65186488https://www.theamericanmarksman.com/bullets-1st-762-147gr-m80-fmj-400-ct.html?FLARN=1779843429Literally 73 cents a round.
>>65186488Stay away from .308. I don't even know what the cheap stuff costs.
>>65186490I have too many 5.56 ARs and even a 300>>65186492Why thank youStill debating 6.5 vs .308 in my mindI like how hard the .308 slaps
>>65186467>>65186478Oh my friend, just buy all the MC gear, covers, uniforms, rucks, whatever you want and then have it make sweet love in a bucket of rit dye. >Cheat the industry with a home depot bucket, make big savings>see pic relhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwGjMO9HU-k
>>65186500
>>65186503
>>65186372Oh
>>65186503Behind cover it barely matters what you wear.
>>65186488Only cns hits matter. Stahping powaaa is a psyop from Big Bullet. >>65186467Most forests aren't that green. M81 works well because it fades well so it matches the MC palette.
>>65186511>Most forests aren't that greenwhat wasteland do you live in?
>>65186500>not using a free harbor freight bucket
I might do it boysI might buy the 14" PSA Saber in 6.5
>>65186512Dirt is brown, anon. Same with dead leaves, sticks, trees. >>65186516Why?
>>65186513I forgive you for your poverty
>>65186530Its hard to find an affordable SBR in a full size rifle cartridge.I feel a 16" AR in 308 would be similar but I might just go for a bolt action in the full size cartridge category.I'd just really like a supressed semi-auto "battle" rifle.If not I'm considering building an ar in 6arc for distance
ADM QC has gone to shit. Scope mount showed up today and the locking latch on one of the QD mounts had a spring sticking out from being installed incorrectly. Luckily, I own roll pin punches and fixed it but for a $250 mount thats fucked up.
>>65185614Got my upper in finally. First impressions are good. It’s not as big or heavy as some people would suggest.
>>65186564How far out do you shoot normally at the range?
>>65186564Is that a P4xi?
>>65186500What if you dyed them black like in that one planet of the apes movie
>>65186570Usually 200 yards at steel but sometimes 300.>>65186575Yeah, bought it back before Steiner jacked the prices up on the their scopes.
>>65186584You know, at that point just go to JMRC and rob the OPFOR for their pajamas
>>65186530>Dirt is brown, anon. Same with dead leaves, sticks, trees.If you're laying prone it doesn't really matter what camo you have, when you're standing up or crouching is when it matters.
>>65186497>I have too many 5.56 AR's and even a 300thats your own stupidity dont push ur own issues onto the truth
>>65186609Lay down? I'm not getting this shit dirty.
>>65186615You can wash your kit anon
>>65186618Then my gear will glow from the detergent.
>>65186609Ground isn't flat. You will always be seen at some angle, including directly above.
I bought a spiritus micro fight chest rig in tropic to satiate that urgePC will be standard MC
>>65185828Ten outta fucking ten I laughed.
Why are all of my uppers fucked up? Should I just file these until it fits?Also realized I lost a screw for the gas block.Fuck my stupid chud life.
>>65186506huh
I will now buy your 12.5”.https://danieldefense.com/glssc?utm_campaign=DC__glssc_launch_email&utm_content=MAY%2026&utm_medium=email&utm_source=zaius
>>65186506>>65186756Nice DefinitelyNotMossad clones
>>65185704Thanks>>65185801>>65185805I ordered a set. Will report back. >>65185814I went to the Menards and the smallest roll pin punch they had was 5/32. I do not have a harbor freight near me.
>>65186535>bucket elitism I've seen it all.
>>65186795>govt profileWhat the fuck man the socom profile was RIGHT THERE
Who here /hodge/?
It's over.
>>65186839They're carbine anyway, who cares
>>65186869RIP
>>65186870Idk 12.5 is already too long desu
Why are you guys fighting so much today
>>65186937>Bly blar blou bluys blighbling blo bluch bloblay
>>65186940I found you a house
>>65186947unironically kino would squat in illegally
i will be putting a vcog on my 16 inch ar15
>>65186869Best stock right there.
>>65186488If you want a .308 gun get something fun like a G3 or FAL. Think of them more like an AKM that hit the gym instead of a marksman rifle and they're a lot of fun.
>>65187088Or just get a SCAR and you can think of it as both
Is a nitride/QPQ barrel justasgood as chrome linedAnd does CHF really justify the extra cost over button rifling
>>65187140>JussasgoodNot even close>Justify the costOnly when paired with chrome
>>65186212You post on /ak/ which has Fox threads of its own hence the coalition. Also, your video(s) and photos threw /hg/ schizos off the trail>>65186223The Founders were integral to the origins of the ARG collages. Skelly bestowed onto me my moniker. The ARG magazine covers from the Dissipator/605 builder inspired me to start including anons' AR-15's for the FFriday threads. The owner of that M4gery with the green-tan lower kept whinging about not seeing it in any of the OP's so I produced the first collage as a shotgun approach to oil the squeaky wheel(s) but this inadvertently lead to even greater demand for them. Tuwu produced OC inspired by FFriday threads, was the impetus for the voting bloc I assembled and the first to describe it as "the council". Kacey is an original negro of mine and gave the collages their soundtrack [total Carpenters supremacy]. G$ anon, Big "Boresnake" Boss, Fishy and Horse were early supporters and manifested safe travel for me during my holiday flights
>>65187209If only your internet pals could manifest you a job so you could afford to shoot.
>>65187211Pastebine shoots DOZENS of rounds every few months. He shoots plenty. It's targets that he needs. Maybe a new permanent marker.
>>65187217A ruler too, those lines need work.
>>65187218Oh great that's another, what, $2? Are you trying to bankrupt him?
>>65187218>make additional effort without any gain in contrastNo, I will not
>>65187236Effort in general seems to be a hard concept for you.
>>65187237Effort comes easy he just seems to be applying it in weird places.
>>65187237I'd BYFAIYSTSTMF
>>65187243Looks like something a child would draw so he could be like daddy.
>>65187248I'd eat your ass if you said that shit to my face
>>65187217Still more than me
>>65187261I know kcanon, I know.
>>65187153What makes the chrome lining better? Durability?
>>65187235I can’t believe you selfish jerks made him do all that work on the collages and didn’t give him a dime. You just let him starve while he poured his heart out into his work. Real friends wouldn’t take advantage of him like that.
>>65187283Barrel life measured by round count, yes
>>65187286Jannies love doing it for free.
>>65186834Real, ofc>>65186138Then dont buy it. Cheap optics will continue to get better.>>65186212Fact check, true>>65186291>I just want something I can do whatever I need with.Then go lighter than needed and integrate with web kit>>65186307>maybe a2 didn't do that and that's why he thinks you can't do it?Nah nah. ACOG sucks for thermal usage because there is no 1x to scan on so you only get a pixel-y image at 4x.
>>65186212>marginalmaybe, but 14.5 is still objectively faster. Plus you get two full twists of stabilization. Plus softer recoil and increased dwell time which improves reliability...If you want short, go 11.5 > 10.3 > 12.5, and if you're okay going longer for a more GPR type then it goes 14.5 > 16/12.5 >13.x. I'm chill with 12.5 but it's an almost caregorical compromise>>65186054Weird but I think 14.5 is the new 14.5 for all the reasons listed above. 16" does give you a much more appreciable gain in MV compared to the 12.5 -> 14.5 jump. Makes it much easier to justify for UPR/SPR builds, but not necessary for longer ranges>>65186073>>65171824>>65186570Grok says >46.1% in a tac bay, >31.5% from 500-1000y>22.4% zeroing/shooting groups at 100-300y>80% day/20% at night>>65185841Thanks man, just trying to raise the standard here much like you. Trigger guard has a lovely bevel to it btw...excited for the gun to come together>>65186294
>>65186073Generally there are 3 plate carrier set ups to plan around. Obviously you are catering this around who your team is and what they can do/bring.1. Tactical: Plate carrier to protect you and carry some spare mags. Small first aid kit and TQs are welcome but if we have an admin pouch it is small and essentials focused, just enough to fit a resees fastbreak, spare batteries, Leatherman, and your nightvision kit in. Its light on sustainment and is probably used in conjunction with a battlebelt or warbelt. This is your kit for rapid deployment and skirmish. Most people can stop here.2. Assualter: Sustainment heavy, plenty of ammo at the ready with a heavy focus on direct action. Direct action ironically often means hours of doing nothing or shooting at people who you can't see and are too far away to lay effective lethal fires on. It has an admin pouch with anything ranging from NVG kit, to maps, to communication gear, maybe an optic magnifier or binoculars, even snacks. It goes without saying divy this stuff up among friends and in your pack, these are examples. You certainly have an IFAK either on your belt or on your carrier. This is the kit for looking for a fight or holding a position. Some side soft armor to protect from frag completes this rig for its mission set.3. Low profile: You wear it under your shirt. Its not a load bearing, it maybe has a mag or two carefully placed for accessibility if the weather appropriate clothing permits. This is nice for not getting shwacked. A little drawstring backpack with essentials (like snacks!) and an IFAK is all you get.
>>65187386Oh and comfort. Do not undersetimate how miserable you can get in a shitty rig with shitty set up. You'll be flacked up for hours on end. Might as well be cozy.
>>65187406>You'll be flacked up for hours on enddo you live in Somalia or something? unless your active duty police/swat this situation is never gonna happen in the civilian 1st world
>>65187209>G$ anon, Big "Boresnake" Boss, Fishy and Horseliterally who
>>65187425>t. newfag
First AR build, bought the upper completed from AR15Discounts, built out a PSA lower with an Anderson LPK. ODG B5 Sopmod stock, Sig Tango MSR 1-6x, Toolcraft C158 BCG, nothing super fancy. Plan is rattlecan ODG, shoot the barrel the budget upper came with out, then go from there.
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>>65187434Just needs a sling
>>65187440Any reccs that aren't $50 for a sling and QD attachments?
>>65187421Maybe you just don't get invited to the cool kid parties.Also pic related, you don't need the fucking handpiece radio shit. Radios suck to have on you to begin with but just put it in a place you can yank it out. I was dumb(er) back then.
>>65187443I recommend doing some overtime, broke nigga
>>65187434Good job anon. Buy a sling then go to bulk ammo and hit the range.And report back frequently for your lashings and learning.
>>65187421>anon has never humped or worn PC all dayBeing comfy is very important, anon. Beware back injuries, they suck>>65187425Transvestites, mostly
>>65187434>>65187437Congrats on first buildGet a vickers padded sling with a pair of high quality QDs (not midwest industries or troy) and then eventually a lightAmbi safety is also nice to have.Get a paint pen and witness mark the MSR mount as mine shifted at one point.
>>65187443
>>65187444>Maybe you just don't get invited to the cool kid parties.you only attend those kind of parties if someone is paying you to hold a gun.>>65187451work on that reading comprehension big dawg
>>65187434This should be in your budget lolhttps://centerfiresystems.com/cetme-g3-sling-slgcet-1/
>>65187510>u should lrn2readI refuse
So what’s a good AR to get as like a combat rifle? Just the most reliable and “rugged” upper or rifle possible, ideally with all of the modern niceties (free float, chrome lined, CHF). Weight and everything else can come secondary to reliability and service life? Yes I know it will never see war if I buy it, it just suits my autism
>>65187525SOPMOD block II
>>65187525You're several days late. You could have picked up a Geissele Mod1 for a good price during memorial day sale.
>>65187525Plain jane milspec M4gery, but with toob
>>65187444checkedlet's touch sweat stainsI'd pare down your '3 PC setups' to 2:>Overt>CovertYou yourself seemed to say that the 'Assaulter' is more mindset, and I think Assaulter setup just falls under Tactical >can range from lighter setups for serving warrants or quick interdiction & infil/exfil stuff>to being loaded down for longer ops where the carrier benefits from structural properties to bear heavier loads and distribute weight better for additional ammo and sustainmentYou can do most overt stuff with a slick, but I agree that comfort will become a concern esp as op duration increases. You can also do covert stuff with tactical PCs, just requires downloading some of the mags/equipment and running a bulkier jacket or shell>handpiece radio shitTrucker/lapel/remote/shoulder mic....knew what you meant though. Did the cable get snagged? >>65187454>Get a vickers padded slingOh>>65187209it's funny how you have no tripcode or even a name and yet are widely recognized for your contributions...tyfys
>>65187536Eh that’s fine, I can wait until the fourth or the next big sale. Just trying to plan for something now>>65187549So like this?>>65187533
>>65187561Nohttps://litter.catbox.moe/vlnh94ilsshy1quo.jpg
>>65187581Oh uh, no
>>65187558I do have a moniker here but I appreciate the sentiment all the same! Op on, anon
>>65185797It was very easy to remove. Get a very tiny roll punch. It doesn't has to come all the way out, just until you can wiggle off the selector
>>65187605Holy smokes dude
>>65187558That is bretty good feedback. I guess I didn't even mention scalability. JPC 2 is probably able to fit all 3 mission sets with proper modifications and no one says that simply having a pouch means it needs to be stuffed. Good notes.>radioTo be honest I've only ever used my radio gear as walkie talkies, and yet still seem to constantly need to fiddle with it when on my person. My Baofeng handpiece was cheap and in the way, no doubt it can be better done but I don't have much call to use it at the moment.You should post more anon.
>>65187561>or the next big saleDepends on what you want exactly. If you want a completed rifle or you want to put together a lower and upper, etc. but yeah like I said, I recommend Euro Optic during the next sale.
>>65187525BCM, Centurion, Colt, Daniel Defense, FN... DSA if poor.Milspec and chrome lined barrel.
>>65187608Obtain airshit H250 handsets to hand out for baofengs. They are the single most useful setup for baofeng budgetposting. Compared to a real one the PTT is a bit less tactile. They would benefit from a PTT guard tbqh , if you gain access to a printer I will send you a STL.>>65187618>CenturionNone of this in CY>>65187558>OhOh yes
>>65187525M16A4 or brownells DD block II 14.5 upper.Always better off building though
>>65187615Probably putting an upper and lower together yeah. Which geissele did you recommend?>>65187618Which ones? Or just anything from them?>>65187630An M16 in the modern day is any interesting choice
>>65187633They had a bunch of Super Duty uppers on sale depending on the length you want. Pic related as I still have the web page open. You can also salvage parts from it if you end up wanting different furniture like the bcg.
>>65187619>printerI've got about $10,000 of hobby/house/car projects to chew through before I can pick up another. Will take you up on that though, thanks.>CenturionMonty needs the money to pay Reed his protection money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHSSO-vJTSsIs the forward assist a waste of weight and cost in 2026?
>>65187639Oh wow and that’s the complete upper? That sounds kinda worth, what barrel length would you recommend?
>>65187633Before you are set three paths:>11.5" You are ambitious and practical, you WILL own nods, a can, a LAM, and have friends. >14.5"You value practical, familier, and robust. You can't enjoy war movies that don't mention logistical concerns.>16"Kinda lazy but not stupid. You pretend like you'll drop the dosh to make it a proper SPR but really you just like the idea of being a precision guy because it means you get to sitdown and laydown a lot.Choose wisely.
>>6518764412.5
>>65187653>20"You're gonna make it
>>65187661Yes, but only because the movie relied on a lot of mcguffins to get the protagonist to survive where much more qualified people were killed off in contrived ways.
>>65187653>11.5Bottom>14.5Vers>16Top>20Power Bottom
>>65185614>>65184560/arg/ AR15 Stock Survey TournamentVoting is done via Strawpoll and is collected every 24 hours.LMT Crane has won the tenth round!Round 11: VLTOR IMOD vs Magpul CTRhttps://strawpoll.com/e6Z2ALqw6gN
>>65187644It depends on what you're going to be doing with it. I stick to the 13.9-14.5 range normally.
>>65187434Wear gloves and check gas block is secured. Have fun tuning. Welcome. >>65187668There can only be one winner. >>65187525URGI >>65187643No>>6518764411.5
>>65187653Uh i guess 14.5”? I am looking for the most robust and practical thing, with special attention towards reliability. You make 11.5” sounds cool I guess, I should be future proofing my stuff>>65187657Oh, is that any good over going either direction?>>65187671Fair enough, thank you>>65187674So an 11.5” URGI?
>>65187675Or super duty
>>65187679Is there a big difference? They seem pretty identical except for muzzle devices, of which I’m not a huge huxwrx fan
>>65187682>big differenceYes, the super duty uses a center tab to lookup whereas the URGI can fit on any receiver. The Super Duty lockup is superior to the URGI. Pic related.
>>65187653Wrong
I just remembered that my 300blk ownership experience was trash in every conceivable way and I'm glad I don't hear about it much anymore.
>>65187685Oh kinda like an HK then? Interesting. I do like the idea of being able to fit the handguard on any AR upper, that’s neat. But if it’s at the cost of possible zero loss, than yeah maybe super duty is the way to go
>>65187695I don't think you would lose zero. Also uses two set screws to perfectly align. I currently have this. It works fine so far but I do want to pickup a super duty instead.
>>6518767514.5" is very nice because plenty of optics with BDCs will naturally pair with it. Takes a little less work on your end. It suppresses well and has fuck tons of data out there on its ballistics for your personal education. The length is nice and managable for weapons handeling stuff while being quite aesthetic and there is basically no tuning needed with midlength gas, maybe a buffer weight tune will be it. It just works, it will always work, and you won't need to think about how it works.11.5" is minmaxed for weight, reliability, handeling, railspace etc. But you are going to be constantly fucking with it as your shooting habits and gear change. Shorter guns need a lot more thought put into them to be nice to shoot.You'll be best advised here with a "sky is the limit" approach for learning and doing more with your gun. Neither of those lengths will ever hold you back as you grow.
>>6518767511.5" with a dot and a can should be your first rifle14.5" shrimply doesnt offer any benefits outside of running a SPR with a large clipon, bipod, etc If you are afraid of the NFA/Dumb buy a 16" non pinned gun until you wise up.>>65187640Wrangle one out of the locals, someone must have one.
20" beat out all of the other pissy peashooters BTW
Btw thanks for the help guys I really appreciate all the advice>>65187699Oh okay, not bad. If I’m gonna be vain for a moment, the URGI does look really good with the two tone. If I get an 11.5” instead of a 14.5” I’ll probably do URGI, mainly because of the muzzle device (I imagine a can is a must with a shortie) but also because I noticed they have different barrel profiles, so I imagine on the shortie it won’t matter as much. And the rail probably is less likely to lose zero when the rail itself is shorter >>65187700Yeah that’s kinda the impasse I’m at, the 14.5” seems more reliable, or at least safe, while the 11.5” is more “minmaxed” like you said>>65187703I mean I could just run it as a pistol and not give a fuck right? Anyway that’s kinda crazy to say, 14.5” really has nothing to offer? I guess an 11.5” would be the way to go then damn>>65187707Funny enough I do own one, which is why I’m shopping now. It’s great and super soft shooting but now that I have my gear squared away and as I’ve trained with it a lot more, it’s really not ideal lmao. Like doing anything indoors with it is a nightmare, in a vehicle is a nightmare, and innawoods it’s okay mostly but you really notice the length in harsh terrain/deep woods
11.5 elcan+dot cat wb
>>6518771711.5" with correct tuning is just as reliable.
>>6518771811.5 with singlepoint OEG and moderator
>>65187717Assuming the rifle is built and tuned properly (don't forget the gas block oring) such that it passes a threshold of acceptable reliability, you can deprioritize the gas characteristics of 14.5 mid. Therefore you can focus on gizmomaxxing, and planning ahead for a well curated and adaptable weapon system - not just some rifle. Make sense? Any asshole can buy a gun and shoot trash. With some thought, you can instead build skills and develop a system that is actually relevant and meaningful to your security.
>>65187723Oh no shit? Interesting. What am I looking for in ammo? I keep hearing that with good/modern ammo, shorties will have similar terminal performance to longer barrel ARs, but what ammo exactly is that? I’ve just been shooting ball ammo with the occasional match load I’ll find at the store or these cool FBI bonded soft tips they had on sale there one time
>>65187717Yeah pistols are gay but you could do that>14.5 has nothing to offerReally youre going to be shooting this gun inside of 300m almost exclusively. Probably inside of 100m most of the time. If you are trying to get the gun beyond that you run into ergonomic considerations (platform weight, handguard length, etc) and accessory considerations (optic, bipod, etc) prior to running into ballistic issues of the 3" of barrel chopped off. That 3" of barrel is basically a "free" suppressor, pic rel
>>65187703Conceptually I agree with you on 14.5 but there is just something about 14.5s that I think is comfy to use. I don't always like running a can because they are heavy and lugging one around all the time is eh. Idk, it's fun to be irrational sometimes
>>65187744>funCan you imagine?
>>6518774075gr gold dots>>65187744Cans are almost always worth the increased weight. Yeah an unsuppressed 11.5 sucks and id actively try to avoid that for sure. But being able to communicate easily while rifles are going off is huge to the whole shoot, move, communicate you should be doing with small arms.>>65187747No.
>>65187737No that’s entirely true, but reliability is ultimately my biggest consideration yk. After spending some time messing with someone’s unreliable rifle, all I want is one that will be so reliable I never think about it fucking up unless I purposely don’t clean it for thousands of rounds or some shit. So I agree with you on the system, I’m just being autistic because I want a weapon system that will always work>>65187742Pistols are gay, but besides the range MAYBE, who’s gonna check my stock anyway, right? Anyway wow yeah that’s a huge difference, interesting. As for the distance thing, would a magnified optic make that distance issue with an 11.5” a lot less of a factor?
>>65187525>>65187633>>65187644>>65187675>>65187695>>65187717cringe ass larp
>>65187769Oh ok thanks
>dropping form 4 with no rifle
>>65187768>MagnificationAt 500yds with 77gr and an 11.5" barrel you are shooting about two forms up over thr head of your target. This is... fine. You won't hit anything in a gun fight but you'll be enough in the ballpark to bring real danger and therefor effective suppression. Hence the popularity of magnifiers on shorties. Its a fashion statement generally for mag optics on proper SBRs.>AmmoI plagerize a lot of A2s stuff so if he says 75gr Gold dots do that. But just blast and train with the dirt cheapest shit you can buy in bulk and memorize the holds of one good people popper type of ammo.>Reliable14.5" is going to be in a very technical fashion less reliable with greater longevity.More gas means more likely to just chomp through a hiccup due to varience in its cycle of operations. More gas also means harsher treatment on moving parts. So after a certain (and unknown) amount of parts wear the betting man says the 11.5" needs a new bolt/springs/barrel/gaskey/gas rings/ etc first. You should probably get an 11.5" as you sound like you do go outside and do have friends and do have ambitions.
>>65187718>cat wbMay as well go KK
>>65187784Yeah idk about 500y lmao, but I see what you mean. LPVO or even a prism optic might be overkill. The destroying moving parts quicker sucks for sure but I hear it’s better than a 10.3” and if it’s reliable then I can live with that. Thanks for the advice man, I think I’ve kinda decided on a URGI 11.5” but if I destroy it prematurely I guess I could get a BCM 11.5” to replace it lol
>>65187792>LPVO or even a prism optic might be overkill.it's more about PID and effectiveness beyond point shooting ranges. Every optic has mechanical and electrical parts that can fail. An etched prism is objectively the most robust.
>>65187718>11.5+wb20+odb
>>65187836Yeah that’s a good point. I’ve been training for awhile now and just identifying anything in the woods or at distance is horrible lmao. Even with binos it’s so inconvenient. I get why people like LPVOs so much, it is nice to just crank it to 6-8x and actually get a good look at something
>>65187784Here is a video of me hitting a 590 target with 77gr from a 10.5 barrel
>>65187751>almostkeyword
>>65187605
>>65187870Good shooting anon. Thanks for sharing. But I think I'll let the SPR guy take the first crack at the dude standing watch in the window 600yds away.
>>65186242I was told this optic setup is physically impossible. How do you scan!?!?!
>>65187881Dwot fantasies are cringe
>>65187879It's an M27 clone. It's not heavy
>>65187898I want to fuck it
>>65187898yes it is it's fat
Current /arg/ family with /hg/ cousin visiting
>>65187870now put the target in an unknown location and have it shoot at you
>>65187964Out of respect to our veteran with PTSD please do not mention /hg/.
>>65187608>didn't even mention scalabilityand I didn't really even mention belts but man the gear convo here is much livelier than in (ba)/gq/I wish you luck on your comms journey and A2s bubblepack idea is rather on point. Same with the PTT guard except that's actually required on any radio I run. >>65187870First round impact at 500y with a 11.5 dot + mag is pretty doable ime. 590 is impressive, though you must be honest how many rounds that took, also curious what 77gr?>>65187994then move it
>>65188009The bdc pretty much aligned, more trouble confirming hits than it was hitting it.>>65187994and then make it dark and make it rainy and make my ammo bad and also one of my eyes went out also they have FLIR and a drone and live satellite imagery and there's a guy fingering my butt and a mosquito in my ear and the prom's tomorrow. Let's see how well I shoot then
>>651879644 of the same gun?
>>65187994No need, mk18 is just a noisemaker until your indirect fires/CAS show up.>>65188009>except that's actually required on any radio I run.Talking about a guard for the H250 as well in that post. All PTT should be guarded, way too easy to lay on a radio and become an emitter.
>>65187964Nigga this collection fucking sucks I bet people tune out by the third clone of the same rifle >but the optic is different >yeah anon... that's cooland then get mogged by the one friend who has a revolver while all the girls pretend to be femme fatales while you try to get a word in about how the Elcan can switch zooms, and you have to explain why it's better than your friend's cheapo lpvo to the noguns who don't care
>>65188028silence wikipig
>>65188032This is what every AR collection looks like to non AR or gun people.
>>65188028What rifle do you get if you don’t have any indirect fire/CAS
>>65188065Only if you have the same rifle x4 with different optics
>>65188035Thems the rules>>65188072Ruger No 1 in 375H&H to blow your head off for being so fucking stupid.>>65188065FactualIts why you gotta have some random fun things.
>>65188074As I said to non AR people they're all the same, no one cares about your mini recce vs DMR
>>65188072You die. There is nothing you can do.
>>65188032Post your AR
>>65188078Not really, you just need even a marginal amount of variety in your builds if you have multiple ARs
>>65188084I'm drying up where's your Anaconda Chad has an Anaconda.
>>65188077Okay but now give an actual answer because literally none of us have CAS or indirect fire unless they’re military>>65188079No people have had gunfights before not involving CAS
>>65188087right here babe*unzips uretha*>>65188082Sure here>>65188077I am married to a trans woman btw
>>65188072Brother you are the CAS.t Droneschizo
>>65188088no they haven't. George Washington won because he had a 10 warthogs and thermals
>>65188087I know this is a joke but no guns girls don't talk like that. You just need a lever action, some flavor of classic ar, some flavor of modern ar, some revolver, some handcannon like a deagle, and some old bootie and they will pose for hours
>>65188102My WASR is pretty popular with the noguns, they like often more than my ARs.
>>65188105yeah because it's iconic. The crowd pleaser for me is the m16a1 retro style AR. Girls like posing with it like disaffected hippies.
>>65188026>>65188074Same rattlecan yeah,I live in one spot.1. 18in SS410 SPR that I shoot with 77 gr (BCM, Vortex Diamondback 4-16x44, G$ SSA-E)2. 16in Mystery meat 'LSW' that was my first rifle I bought when I was 19 (see pic rel)3. 14.5 GPR (BCM, TA31 w/ RMR2, milspec trigger, arcfire SS, Polo-K, homogear PEQ-15, Streamlight ProTac HL-X)4. 14.5 "Girlfriend's" rifle (I told her it was for her but really its a spare fuck around rifle for me because she doesn't shoot a lot)>>65188032 The elcan is chinese, you're brown, and I'm laughing at your headcanon>>65188105My buddies get a kick out of my WASR too, but I ran out of 7.62 so she sits in the locker.
>>65185703Seconded, grew up watching reruns of that show.
>>65188112>I'm laughing at your headcanonYeah that is the idea it was a joke after all lolol
>>65188112>the Elcan is Chinesehave you tortured it or compared it to a real one? How does it hold up? I have considered Chinese Elcan as well.
>>65188121kys
>>65188142No I don't want to
>>65188124I haven't put it through the ringer yet, took it once to zero and it held well, but no prolonged beating through the bush and doing bursts.I was convinced to drop the $200 because I watched this guy test his to full confidencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeP-DQdTZyMIts a doohicky for me more than a serious optic choice, ACOG TA31 is my soul partner. I bought it from Spectre specifically. His was an ebay pick?>>65188142For the record that is different anon, thank you for the support
>>65188088As always:>#1: 10.3-11.5" 5.56 DI AR with t2,g33, light, MFAL and can>#2: 14.5-16" 5.56 DI SPR with 2.5-10/3-9/similar optic and a can>#3/4: 16" 308 DMR with 4-16/4-20/5-25/similar optic, bipod and a can>#3/4: 13" 308 SCAR 17 with Elcan 1/4 or Elcan 1.5/6 and canI dont want to hear about 12.3512" micro optimized BRT or BRN180 or SIG Trouser Snake until your 4 essential food groups are covered.>unless they are militaryNot with that attitude!>>65188154>non cracked US woodImpressive!>>65188093>10 warthogshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-T6lEYJHm8
>>65188154>Spectre specificallyelaborate. Was this a roundabout way of saying you have an elcan or they sell airsoft clones of their own scope?
>>65188158Ok thank you, smooch, .308 13” is crazy though>Not with that attitude!Alright maybe someday ill get my own hind and fighter squad from four generations ago, but not right now
>>65188077Who makes that rifle rack?
>>65188154Yo what leaf suit is that?
>>65188171Savior 9 gun rack.I have a pair of them I use for "ready to go" riflesEverything else deeper in the vault.They struggle with guns shorter than 12" no can or guns over 30lb FWIW but its still workable.>>65188163>.308 13” is crazy thoughIts pretty excellent, laserbeam almost>Somedayhttps://bowmanarms.com/search.php?search_query=mortarPeople out here spending more on their rifle than a whole ass mortar system. Very sad!>But thats demilledChisel the slag off the firing pin holeCut tube above demill holeTurn down and throw on a sleeve just above end of tubeBehold, an 81mm>What about roundsJust make them yourself.Destructive Devices are way more fun than machineguns.
>>65188180Mortars are a little further down the pipeline than a shrimple gun is, but good to know
>>65188160My bad man, brain fart. I meant Spec Precision. Buying a spectre from spec precision feels like a double negative.https://www.specprecision.com/rifle-scope/airsoft-elcan-specterdr-gen3-1-4x-scope-mil-spec-ver-specter-dr-elcan-replica-in-stock.html#/elcan_color-dark_brown>>65188175LAPA Gear, hope you're cool sending $186 through Paypal to a "family/friend." Its a nice suit, lot of though put into it. Apparently got field feedback from UKR SF as they developed themhttps://lapa-gear.com.ua/ghillieI bought the Ghillie V 5 and Ghillie V 9
Can't decide on a ARC V2 or LV-120ARC seems like too much for what I need
>>65188020>bdcwhat optic?>>65188028>Emitter? I don't even know herbut yeah I need a 3dp...are these metal (infused) filaments legit/usable by hobbyist-grade printers?
>>65188180Hopefully Bowman wasn't lying and they get more 81s in soon. Looks like a ton of fun.
>>65187434Be less poor
>>65188190Almost 200 is an insane asking price desu, I’d rather get another leaf suit, thank you though. Do you have like one you prefer to use all season or is getting a bright green and then a brown one the move?
>>65187618Does DSA even still do the FN barrel uppers
>>65188225I assume so...
I'm still old school
>>65188200Can I offer you another Berry Compliant alternative thats just as good at half the cost as the others good sir?https://www.beezcombatsystems.com/collections/sapi-esapi-plate-carriers/products/american-sentry-grid-plate-carrier-cumber. Also has mulitple camo options>>65188221Its a great suit imo, jersey mesh body, leaves that dont soak water, front zip, snap button on/off face veil, bungee cord to size, durable, knee reinforced but hey I get it. $200 is a lot to look like a bush lmao. I use the green during the summer/spring, and brown during the winter/fall (depends because I have MC Alpine overwhites for heavy snowfall). Appalachia METTC.
>>65187536>You could have picked up a Geissele Mod1 for a good price during memorial day sale.not from the fucking geissele website you cant. that shit is out of stock 24/7
>>65188306No I get it, I’m sure it’s great and everyone that uses them loves them. I’d just rather get an Arcturus hunting one, which is supposedly IR compliant, and is like 60 bucks a pop
>>65188244I feel like I owe you sloppy head for posting this
>>65188188Its basically simple gun but big. Really not much going on in there.>>65188207Two choices1) filaments with metal powder suspended in polymer (colorfabb copperfill, metalfil, etc) that are mostly ornamental, a couple cool uses for those but the strength is weaker than a homogeneous polymer part. 2) filaments with a very small% of polymer compared to metal (Virtual Foundry, BSAF, etc) that you can stinter in a kiln to burn out all the polymer and have a metal object. But doing so requires gear you wont have at home. But it would yield a durable object.If I was printing for metal performance id print polycast (PVA), then lost filament it in plaster to make a negative to pour molten metal in. The end product is fine enough you can actually see the layer lines in a print. Ive done a healthy amount of it when prototyping mortar shells.>>65188214It really be>>65188306>BeezIck
>>65185680>>65185685>>65185689>>65185704>>65185736>>65185801>>65185805>>65185814>>65186809The roll pin punch set came and after much fiddling we got the FRT installed. And we didn't even scratch the shit out of my new gun!Thanks for everyone's help!
>>65188464FUCKForgot pic
>>65186212Ayo hol upLast /arg/ thread was saying 12.5" was an appreciable difference over 11.5" now that's not the case?It can't be both
>>65187209I don't recall whinging.
>>6518849212.5 has never been worth buying>>65188464Grats
>>65188492>trusting ADMyou'll end up like this anon >>65186564
>>6518850012.5” destroyed forever
>>65188492It's almost like you shouldn't listen to anyone itt. Almost.Every single piece of information you need to make an informed decision is available at your fingertips outside of this dumpster fire.
>>65188492Hey man I agree, imo I dont think 12.5 vs 11.5 is an appreciable difference. 11.5 vs 14.5 is, 10.3 vs 13.9 is, 14.5 vs 20 is. Big jumps matter, little jumps dont when I think about barrel length and purpose of the rifle itselfI wasn't in last thread so I can't speak to what the fine gentlemen of /arg/ were saying their reasoning was
>>65187668>Nolmao the b5 beat the prs?
>>6518849212.5" is a pain in the ass to tune and gas. As I said before. You have 3 choices. One is a cop out, one is low effort, and one is correct but requires a bit of experience.>16", 14.5", 11.5"
>>65188591>the 3 most dripless barrel lengths known to man
>>65187781Can you smoke inside like that?
>>65188598Whoa buddy, seems you forgot to attach the file with your "drippy" rifle there. Lets go ahead and take a look at her.
For me it's 20", 13.9", and 10.3"16" is for .308.
A friend told me like 80% of the posters here love israel is there any truth to this? Post your iwi builds
>>65188614True>insert bb .308 16" magdump
>>65185614lets bring back rope to our gear.
>>65188612my drippiest rifle is far to drippy for you to handle
>>65188612nta but okay
>>65188648Charles Bronson had rope.
>>65188654I'm shooting rope right now
>>65188653
>GET ME OUTTA THIS WACK ASS PRISM
>>65188653Kek.>>65188652https://youtu.be/R_FQU4KzN7A
>>65188620Cohort worships them.
Lemme get uh hk416... BONELESS
>>65188680That will be $4,000 plus tax plus tip.
>>65188698We’re juuuuuuust gonna ask you a little question right heeeeeere…
>>65188703
>>65188784I need to rewatch Spongebob, shit's funny at any age.
>>65188620I stand with my greatest ally is there a problem with this?
>>65188840Uhhhhh, yeah pal
New saucy larp>>65188929>>65188929>>65188929>>65188929
>>65186937Keymod? Really??
