Party like it's 1994 editionGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik (embed)Target(s) of the month for July. Shoot some redcoats. If you pass the first one, try the second.https://files.catbox.moe/clnjel.pdfhttps://files.catbox.moe/kloq65.pdfAttach this month's archive code "hg-qual-7-26" to help the collage maker find entriesPrevious: >>65344139
carrying my taurus spectrum todaywish me luck bros
>>65350648I hate when shikigami attack my car
>>65350648Meanwhile the unseen nigger outside the passenger side shoots him in the back of the head
>>65350611Possibly the sickest gun in /hg/ currently.
>>65350648Imagine the lead fumes
>>65350766Imagine the lead fumes Imagine the lead fumes>fuck did I say that already?
>>65350648>me when I pull up to Burger King and there is a melanated fellow in the drive through window
>>65350786U good brother?
>>65350648Isn't watch on the right wrist a little weird?
>>65350648Good stage setup but it looks goofy as all fuck
>>65350805Those lead fumes weren't a joke
>>65350648Christ no ear pro?
>>65350806It's gay thing. He's signaling.>>65350819Ear pro is cucks.
>>65350831Is it really? I was unaware. I don't see it too often is why I asked
>boomer legend Massad Ayoob told me my thumbs curling down grip is heckin cute and valid even for non-wheelgunsBased
>>65350834If I see someone notice it I’ll head to the nearest bathroom and if they follow then it’s on. Different anon btw.
>>65350911What Massad Ayoob says: >I was a career police officer >I was an IDPA revolver champion >The second chance vest saved my lifeWhat Massad Ayoob means:>I was a part-time deputy in a town of ~3000 residents that is essentially retirement community>I beat the half dozen other guys that bothered to enter in Stock Service Sevolver at IDPA nationals>I happened to have my vest on when I crashed my patrol car The guy is just such a fucking joke. I'm shocked he's still coasting on his outdated books/articles and that dumbass voice he affects to get low-IQ people to take him seriously.
>>65350958Lol there's no way that's real! Like at the range while shooting?
>>65350960>meow
>>65350960I don't know, curling my thumb down does provide me a more stable grip with my dominant hand than if I point my thumb up or forward.
>>65350611Infinity sexooo
>>65350982Oh yeah, nothing like shooting hot loads at the range with the guys ; - )
It's kinda gay but I kinda dgaf
For me, it's the RTF frame.
>>65351132Looks like shit. Literally.
What's one step up from a tisas 1911? Springfield garrison or whatever the fuck?Why do we not have a 1911 buyers guide
>>65351198Because all 1911s are boomer guns. Anyone and everyone who wants one is better off getting a 2011.
>>65351198RIA
>>653511981911 buying is too feature specific for there to be a for X price bracket, buy Yplus they've been making them for 100+ years, there's plenty of used guns out there and some great deals used.
>>65351198>What's one step up from a tisas 1911?which tisas are you even talking about?
babe wake upnew frame mounted muzzle device just dropped
>>65351220RIA is not a step up from Tisas.Ita probably Kimber or Springfield only if you're willing to potentially send in for warranty service.
>>65351263So instead of using a slide to match the frame they use a smaller slide? Why not put a comp on a slide that fits?
Do you think S&W would sell me a Metal HD frame with a standard M&P 2.0 slide if I ask them really nicely? I know I can just buy both and combine them, but then I'm left with an awkward second gun.
>>65351198girsan < rock island < tisas < mac < ruger < sig = s&w < kimber < remington = tanfoglio < springfield = colt < dan wesson < semi customs < full customs
>>65351284>oh no i now have 2 guns!:/
>>65351284Explain what you are doing and why and whats the advantage
>>65351284I think you should ask them. Worst they can do is say no.
>>65351280Fixed weight > reciprocating weight It’s not a shorter slide, it’s a rail mounted compensator that lengthens the frame
>>65351293It looks cool.
Anons of /hg/ riddle me this: You are looking for a .22lr handgun, a pocket pistol, something that is very compact. You want a threaded barrel for your suppressor. You want this gun to be good for plinking and good for sticking in a pocket of your camping backpack or bug out bag. You plan on using high velocity rounds because you have another .22 that likes them. What are some of the first things you want to look at in this hypothetical, if you're a revolverfag that doesn't know much about guns in this caliber and size.
>>65351309>You are looking for a .22lr handgun, a pocket pistol, something that is very compact.Pocket pistols don't normally come with threaded barrels for obvious reasons.
>>65351329I was thinking it might have become more common since the tax on cans dropped, and I would like one gun that does multiple things than two for the separate purposes, honestly.
>>65351285How are the savage 1911 pistols? They look appealing and scratch the hipster itch I just can't shake. That, and the Bersa B1911.
Oi.Thinking about changing the p08 for a p1/ postwar p38 because im too lazy to reload.
>>65351309I wouldn't at all since there are like four pistols ever that aren't revolvers (plus the 0/22) that can even handle feeding .22 LR reliably due to it being rimfire. The rest sounds like a funny meme but also counterproductive. Smith CSX in all fields other than the barrel part and that's a 9mm.
>>65351338Rimfire really isn't that popular for self defense, so your options for a modern pocket gun are already slim. For your case I recommend the TX22, its a full size handgun but its extremely light and comes with a threaded barrel adaptor.
>>65351309The smallest 22lr handguns with threaded barrels that you'll find are the beretta bobcat 20x and the walther p22q. Though neither is really good for concealing in a pants pocket, per say.
>>65351309Beretta 21A Covert is like the only one unless you drop at least one of those requirements. But it needs very spicy ammo because it has no extractor, and it only holds 6 cartridge clips. Also don't carry a .22 for any kind of defense. If you intend to use it to plink nasty when you're innawoods carry onMinus the threaded barrel the smallest RELIABLE .22 you're gonna find is probably the Third Bay Ounce but it's expensive and weird and it takes over 9,000 seconds to reload. Equally small but super reliable is the Ruger LCP .22. The next smallest probably Walther P22, it's pretty smol and can be reliable with the right ammo. Bigger than that and you may as well just get a Ruger Mark or Taurus TX22. Also, the TX22 Compact seems to suck so probably don't consider that even though it's smallish
>>65351280>Why not put a comp on a slide that fits?The comp is frame mounted, somewhat like the old muzzle stand-off devices from Botach. These are a bolt-on comp that requires no new barrel or slide and requires no extended or threaded barrel so they are 50 state legal. The comp portion just sits in front of the muzzle.
>>65351353>Though neither is really good for concealing in a pants pocket, per say.It's really not about concealment so much as it is weight - ounces become pounds, after all. >>65351355What's the QRD on a Ruger Mark?
>>65351309>>65351355You can get a threaded barrel kit for an LCP 22.>>65351387>QRD on Ruger MarkOne of the most proven and popular 22 pistols of all time, for many good reasons. The latest versions mostly solve the only real complaint about them which is that field stripping them can be a pain in the ass. They have a huge aftermarket.
>>65350648I can't place my finger on it, but this gay as fuck
Gold dot 124g good nuff?
>>65351410>Gold dot 124g good nuff?Probably. Gen1, or Gen2? Std. pressure, or +P? What gun?
>>65350819Train how you shoot or... something
>>65351309Reddit spacing and your>>65351309 phrasing gives it away. Go back.
>>65351342Is your Luger broken or something?
>>65351387>ounces become pounds>>65351387It's a single stack 10 shot .22 in a medium-large format that comes in a gorillion variants. In its default form it's relatively mediocre but the aftermarket ceiling is high. It's good but even the Lite versions aren't all that light, and they all cum with magazine disconnects now
>>65351432>Go back To the range? To the trails? I will when I get some more feedback, retard, don't worry. I don't want to stick around long enough to take on any mannerisms from noguns faggots like you, I prefer my offline life.
>>65351397>>65351443Yeah I've seen these around. A little bigger than what I had in mind but I will find one to fondle and see if that changes my mind one way or the other. Thanks for the other reccs, open to more.
>>65351423+P vp9F
>>65351456>+P vp9FShould be fine. Should penetrate adequately with reasonably reliable expansion.
>>65351456Gold Dot 124 +P has always grouped very well for me. It does hit a bit low compared to range ammo (see top left, versus center), but that’s to be expected for faster stuff.
It happened again. I was driving around the city. In my passenger seat, I had my vape and my glock. I reached for what I thought was my vape, put it in my mouth. Turns out it was my handgun (a glock without a safety) I pulled the trigger to take a hit, and blew my brains out, killing myself.
>>65351459>>65351467gotcha I'm probably going to switch out the federal punch for it
>>65351510You should also consider Federal HST 147, particularly if you’re price sensitive. It sometimes gives me some vertical stringing at longer distances, but it always performs well in gel tests.Don’t shoot too many hollas at the range, or people will begin to think you’re a fed.
>>65350766>>65350786looks like you huffed some
>>65351524I've seen some gel tests with federal hst 147g and it looks good. I usually buy ammo in person so it's the mercy of the LGS stock. If they ever have any I'd be happy to grab some boxes
if I'm carrying 115gr hollow points in a particular gun, should I be training with 115gr round nose instead of 124gr?
>>65351739Doesn’t really matter, because the powder charge will be different, so you’re still gonna have point of impact shift. I recommend 124 gr training ammo because it’s comfier than 115, though.
Maybe I just need to train drawing more or dress differently, but I feel like I'm unable to quickly draw from appendix. I know it defeats the point but does anyone open carry appendix? Not a fan of carrying on the hip for open carry because it's just uncomfortable
>>65352326You just need to train, I read somewhere appendix is the fastest draw positionOWB appendix is possible but completely ridiculous
>>65352326>open carryInnawoods?
>>65352387Well it would still be IWB. I have a phlster holster. I usually dress with a button up shirt over a t shirt, so I guess i would just have the shirt be unbuttoned to be open carry
>>65352326Why not 4oclock strong side? My 509c disappears on my hip and at 7 yard drills I'm doing 3 shots in almost exactly 2 seconds with first shot in 1.5.Try it out, everyones body is shaped differently so you may find it works best for you, and what works best for you is what you should be doing.
>>65352326>>65352479Ah my appologies i misread this and didnt see you wanted it specifically to be open carry, I just assumed you had tried OWB strong side but not IWB.What gun are you carrying that an enigma rig isnt comfortable? You got like a x300 on a 2011 or something?
>>65352495Open carry on my hip is uncomfortable, appendix is fine. My problem is that I have a difficult time quickly drawing from appendix with my shirt I suppose. The gun is a PX4 compact. Whenever I draw my shirt gets caught between my hand and gun, which is why I had the thought to just open carry
>>65352532Your support hand is supposed to grab your cover garment to free the path to your gun for your dominate hand
>>65352532>The gun is a PX4 compact.I carry my PX4 Compact nearly every day strong side 2 o clock and its very comfortable. So you're doing something wrong. What holster are you using?
>>65352326>...train drawing more...This is the answer 100% of the time, for all of us. For our chonky friends, I would probably just go ahead and recommend a strong side carry in the 2 to 5 o'clock range. Tends to work out best for the chonk brothers I've known.
>>65352326How fast are you drawing? And if you don't know you're not timing it and you're wasting your time.
I'll get my no-rail grip module from HK eventually..
>>65350648Can't lie I kinda want to try out picrel in a car situation
>>65350648>evening, officer
>>65351112Odd question but do you own a CZ P-01 with blue grips?
Bought my first handgun recently, what's a good box to keep it safe in my nightstand drawer? Don't want my kids getting to it. I was looking at fort knox and stopbox but I don't really know what I'm looking for.
>>65350611My wife has wanted to start carrying but wants to start with 22. Shes willing to move to larger calibers once she gets comfortable with it but thats where she wants to start. Whats the best self defense 22 handgun for carry? I was thinking maybe a revolver to offset the 22 reliability issues since you can just keep pulling the trigger, but I am open to suggestions.
>>65353074.22 is not a good carry caliber. If she's uncomfortable with pistols, I'd say get a plinker .22 pistol and her just practice with it until she's comfortable.If this isn't an option, then another anon hopefully knows a good model.
>>65353073https://www.amazon.com/Dalmbox-Pistols-Handgun-Combination-Portable/dp/B08KD3774Y?th=1
Just bought a Maadi Helwan Brigadier, it's one of the Interarms imports, which I'm told are closer in quality to the original run than the later imports from Navy Arms and Century. I like the old school 80's aesthetics, especially the horizontal ridges on the grips. I don't mind that it's only single action and has a lower mag capacity. I spent $380 on it, and haven't had the chance to fire it yet. Am I retarded for this impulse buy?
>>65353074Tell her to get the new Beretta tomcat, the one chambered in .32 ACP. It will do what she wants, but isn't a waste of money.
>>65353074Get her a 9mm and tell her it's a 22
>>65353073StopBox? But honestly you can probably toss it on the concrete a few times and it pops open, it’s a purely mechanical lock so it can’t drain its battery and not open. It’s TSA approved if you use their additional cable lock. It’s light weight. It’s more of a retention device than a safe or a vault. I used to sell them to unsuspecting people, telling them how great it works and I have 5 of them at home (I have zero). With some practice you can actually open it super fast, there’s about 81 different combinations for its buttons. Would be very hard for a kid to open and not hard for you to open. Unless they start bashing it.
>>65353116Not that bad. I think there’s a guy who makes upgraded locking blocks (wear item on the 92 style guns). People say they are very mechanically accurate.
>>65353154Why would tsa approved ever be a consideration for a lock box? I thought you weren't supposed to use TSA approved locks for guns because the niggers working there can steal your shit
>>65353073https://www.harborfreight.com/drop-down-gun-safe-57392.html
>>6535307422LR is not so great for carry. If you want to get a 22 for her to start learning on, fine, but I wouldn't get one that is a carry gun as it wont be much of a target gun to learn on. e.g. a Ruger MkIV is easier to learn to shoot well than a Ruger LCR or LCRx.Alternatively get her a heavy target centerfire 9mm that soaks up recoil, so she can learn to shoot centerfire. A 9mm 1911 is easy to shoot, as will most heavy metal framed 9mms.
>>65353074Foids are so retarded >Uncomfortable with anything but .22Besides terminal ballistics, how is a .22 different from carrying a 9x19? Does she think an effective self defense caliber will nuke the ground she's standing on? Psychologically what is different? Both are handguns, both shoot bullets. This infuriates me
>only the passenger retains the key or combinationYeah so unless I'm retarded, using a TSA approved lock on a firearm in checked baggage breaks federal law
>>65353185>>65353216It depends on the airport and also the workers there. Many airports do not follow federal law and do retarded shit But TSA approved was just a marketing thing I remember to say every single time a customer asks about the stop box
>>65353124>Get her an obese straight blowback 32 Bodyguard 2.0 has far less recoil than the Tomcat, which doesn't feel anywhere close to a 22.
>>65353216Flying with guns is hell. Doing literally everything right does nothing to reduce the chances of some 50 IQ slob at TSA fucking it all up for you.
>>65353216They do specifically say that TSA approved locks are allowed, but you really shouldn't. Use your own trustworthy lock that TSA can only open with you there.
>>65353164Yeah, I think I am gonna run it to a smith to tell me if there's anything especially fucked off the bat. It has a bald spot on the finish of the barrel near the slide, so may ask them about re-blueing it. Some scuffs on the grips probably from a kydex holster or something, but I don't care about that either, just feels lived in.
>>65353224>>65353240>>65353251Yeah I don't ever plan on flying with a gun, it seems like a shit experience. I'll just borrow a gun if I ever go on a guided hunt in Alaska or some shit
here's my submission for the qual. I whiffed the last shot on the button and barely hit the paper.
>>65352532>Whenever I draw my shirt gets caught between my hand and gunYou have to be grabbing the shirt in a bad spot or pulling at it with an bad angle.
>>65353237It's a nice size from carry, not rimfire, tip-up will be easier if she has weaker hand strength, and I think .32 is fine for self defense. When you say Bodyguard 2.0, are you talking about the S&W Bodyguard revolver in .38 special? Or, and I assume this is the case, the M&P semi-auto that's 9mm? I have a buddy with an M&P 2.0 and it does have gentle recoil, but it's also a bigger, heavier gun, and not one I personally would want to EDC. But I prefer a pocket revolver, so it just isn't my style in broad strokes. I don't think my girlfriend would be comfortable with something so bulky as an EDC though, she keeps an LCP on her.
>>65353265>>65353251>>65353216I’ve flown a bunch with a gun, probably the best way to do it is:>everything in one pelican air 1615 case, clothes, gun, everything>buy high quality locks that are very difficult to cut like Abus>stick an AirTag in the case>roll of tamper tape, like $8 on Amazon>pack with gun on top>wheel your shit to oversize>print out the federal rules>ask for firearm declaration, they’ll have TSA check your bag most likely and give you a card to stick on top>close it, apply tamper tape, lock, zip-tie, photograph>send it on its way>track your shit with the air tagIt’s miserable but the only thing satisfying about it is the thrill of knowing TSA can’t legally look through your shit, and at your destination if you can’t find your luggage, you get to loudly say “WELL IF YOU CANT FIND IT THEN THERES A LOOSE GUN IN THE AIRPORT. THAT SEEMS DANGEROUS! YOU DONT KNOW WHERE MY GUN IS?”
Once when flying from Houston to Philly I had a loaded PPK mag in my bag that I had completely forgot about. The TSA people at Hobby weren't shocked in the least lol, they said I could check it so I did that.
>>65353349Texas is very cool with guns in general, DFW is the only airport where I was able to just send my luggage through like normal, the United check-in guy was like “I don’t give a fuck and neither does TSA here” when I asked if I needed to take it somewhere special
>>65353279this thinghttps://youtu.be/_fD0KacruPs
Noob here, when shooting target focused with both eyes open do you just have to accept that there's going to be a ghosted image of the gun to the side and ignore it or are you able to train your eyes to completely get rid of it? I get the same thing with red dots too. Even using the tape occlusion method where I'm able to properly transpose the dot over the focused target I get a 40% opacity ghosted image of the gun to the side.
>>65353356Yeah, I was like "oh shit" when he pulled it out, to his credit he wasn't phased at all.Another time I was leaving annual training when I was in the reserves, I used my assault pack as my range bag as a civilian and when flying out of Minneapolis it kept hitting for gunpowder residue and they kept searching, repacking, and resending it through the x ray machine. They finally found a spent .45 casing in there and just threw it away.
>>65353371Seconding this. Bodyguard 2.0 is basically the perfect gun for girls. Just make sure to give it a look over for QC issues like the feed ramp and sights being off to the left on seemingly half of them in existence. Just feels (both shooting and ergonomics) like a 9m thats been shot with a shrink ray and chambered in 380. Love this thing for lazy/no pants carry. I'm still trying to justify spending more than the price of it itself (200 cut + 300) to mount a 507k. Those shitty dovetail mounted dots have horrible QC and are ugly af.
>>65353380Yes you just have to accept the dimmer second gun in your vision.
>>65353323Screenshotting in case I ever need this, thanks anon
>>65351010No, it doesn't. You just haven't been told that you're supposed to do most of your gripping with your support hand. There's a reason every single competition shooter that's worth a shit uses essentially the same grip.
>>65350764I think anon’s meatballs are pretty cool but if he has an auto revolver he’d take the cake
Shot my own handgun for the first time today. How'd I do and how can I improve? I was hitting low and left pretty consistently all day.
I don't get 19/2011sWhat's the appeal? Is it just muh 2 world wars? Are the triggers really that good? If straight pull is so much better than hinge triggers, why don't precision rifles use them? This don't even a shit post I just have never shot one and don't get it at all
>>65353445Dryfire, dryfire, dryfire.
>>65353445>Shot my own handgun for the first time today.Congrats, anon.>I was hitting low and left pretty consistently all day.It's from anticipating recoil or not pulling the trigger perfectly straight back. Very common.
>>65353426Deviant Ollam, despite being an extremely weird fucker, has a great three part series on YouTube about how to fly with guns, tooThat’s where I learned most of it
>>653534461. Highly adjustable ergos. >Grip too wide/narrow? Get smaller/larger panels. >Trigger reach issues? There are at least 3 different trigger lengths to choose from. >Grip panel doesn't have enough real estate for your support hand? Arched mainspring housing pushes the back your firing hand out of the way. >Not to mention undercuts, beavertails, different sizes of magwells, extended safeties, etc. etc. 2. Best trigger on any auto pistol ever.>Straight back trigger pull is the easiest to master by far. There's a reason why almost all beginners shoot better with a 19/2011>Single action means it can be made to do literally anything. Heavy, light, rolling break, crisp break, whatever.3. Institutional knowledge. >Gunsmiths and hobbyists have been working over the 1911 platform for well over 100 years. Accurization is very well understood process. >>65353463>Deviant Ollam I'd put good money on him eventually being outed as a pedo
>>65350611Can I please be shilled a reliable rubber grip tape, please? I would like good grip while also not an uncomfortable kind of grip. I've had stuff slip out of my hands before. And I'm not sure what rubber grip pattern is best.
>>65353446to add to the other post 1. There is something mechanically very nice to the 1911 swinging link action and the hammer. The recoil spring + hammer spring of hammer fired guns make them shoot nicer than strikers but there is something really good about the 1911/2011. 2. The triggers are really that good. Precision rifles have such short travel and light weight they don't need them. Rifle actions can have the trigger behind the actual action so the triggers can have really nice geometry, even a mil spec AR-15 has a nice trigger compared to handguns, pistols you have to do all sorts of weird geometry to get around the magazine being behind the trigger and action to be right above the trigger. They're just really nice. >>65353492Hogue Wraptor, literally rubberized grip tape, it's actually uncommon for grip tape to be rubber.
>>65350714fucking kek
>>65351405The modern "tactical" look is objectively fucking gay.
>>65353483>>65353505What current production gun would you say is the baseline 19/2011 experience for someone looking to dip their toes in and see what all the hype is about?
>>65353446>Are the triggers really that good?
>>65351405The watch on the right wrist
>>65353531Go shoot a Staccato at a range if you can, the Staccato is the "standard" for 2011s (formerly STI, they are the creators of the 2011 so they're legally the only people who can call their gun a 2011, others have to say "1911 Double Stack" despite being the same thing). It might be dirty and beat to shit though, they do need more "maintenance" than other guns. Lesser guns >Springfield Prodigy or otherwise called the Springfield Poverty>Kimber 2K11, similar quality but lesser build quality (uses MIM components instead of billet)>Kimber Warrior DS, budget version of the 2K11 meant to undercut the Poverty. More classic 1911 build than a 2011 (bushing barrel, GI guide rod, internal extractor) >Tisa/MAC DS, they are turkish guns. Good base for modifications >Alpha Foxtrot, literal who manufacturer >Live Free Armory, Apollo, literal who company but somehow makes a 2011 for under 1k in the US that doesn't shit itself immediately>Dan Wesson DWX, not actually a 2011 but similar enough, different action but 1911 trigger>Sig P211, not actually a 2011 since everything is Sig proprietary but is basically a 2011 but nothing is parts compatible. Real 2011s are nearly 100% parts compatible with each other and even 1911s since 2011s use the same slides, barrels, hammer/fire control, everything except the things that need to be wider for the double stack magazine. Better guns than the Staccato>ATLAS, very high end production gun >Nighthawk and tons of other custom builders where builds can be personalized. Too many to list because you'll probably never see them at a rental range, where I think someone ITT has shot an Atlas at a rental range.
>>65353505Thanks!What grip texture is best because I want some rubber grip tape I can cut to fit on for maximum variety if no pre-cut alternatives exist.
>>65353581they only have one true rubber grip tape, the other is sand paper
>>65353576I'm still on the fence if I want to get the 4 inch model or the 3.6 inch HD model. I was thinking of using it for conceal carry and also potentially as a duty handgun.
Here is my submission for the July pistol challenge. I also shot it with a stock Gen 3 Glock 19 and overall did better but I whiffed the button. For the GP100, I did manage to land the button shot one handed and couldn't do it again if I tried
>>65353576Thoughts on the Springfield Operator or TRP? The Dan wessons look nice but so much $$I want one gun that can be used in dynamic shooting sports and cowboy action wild bunch class, which requires a 1911 in 45
>>65353067I used to>>65353446The straight pull doesn't matter, the attributes of the trigger do. And they ARE shared with very good rifle triggers too. Short, light takeup, a hard wall, an extremely crisp break, and super short reset. These are all innate to a 1911 trigger, though some will have a little creep or grit due to slop or a firing pin block. It takes a lot of special attention to match almost any other handgun's trigger to a bone stock 1911 trigger. A basic bitch 1911 trigger is already equal to or beyond the maximum sunk-cost potential of most other handguns. Couple that with very low recoil for caliber and it's clearly a winning combinationGo shoot one dawg>>65353531Kimber DS Warrior or Springfield Prodigy>>65353585Damn, almost. Nice go!
>>65353492Have you tried hockey tape?
>>65353576>Dan Wesson DWX, not actually a 2011 but similar enough, different action but 1911 triggerPlease {color}-pill me on this. I've been eyeing the DWX.
is there a difference between .380 and .38
>>65353585Mirin that button shot.
>>65353595My only Springfield is >>65351027Which >Cerakote is applied nicely >I haven’t torn the gun completely apart but I noticed the hammer strut and ejector being MIM. Safety, slide stop, are not MIM. I think the hammer and sear might be MIM. >trigger is very nice, great >slide to frame fit is nice >optic plate is held on by 2 tiny ass screws >everything I want in a carry/duty 1911 The 10-8 masterclass is basically a TRP but with 10-8 parts and modifications Your wild bunch class might mandate classic 1911 styling instead of modern
>>65353613Funny, I think you may have started my CZ fixation. Do you remember where you bought those grips?
>>65353531For me, a Springfield Loaded and a Staccato P represent solid "service" or "duty" grade pistols that represent each platform pretty well. They're reliable and accurate enough for most uses. From there, you're spending quite a bit of money for refinements, improvements and more attention to detail. I throttled back on my 1911 game, back down to a Springfield Loaded circa 2014 or so. Found it checks most every box I would like checked on the 1911 front.I had a very finnicky 2011 almost two decades ago. Always loved the idea of them, but it was definitely part of that class of gun that required a lot just to achieve baseline functionality for a day on the flat range. Between the gun and the mags, I was frustrated enough to sell it off. The Staccato P reignited that spark and after watching trustworthy folks deem it reliable and seeing the mags come from the factory ready to function...I bit. Very content with that decision, has been a great gun. You still have to pamper it on the cleaning and lubrication fronts relative to something like a striker fired duty gun, but it has been far from finnicky and it doesn't get too sluggish going a couple thousand rounds with only additional lube applied.
>>65353595Any of springfield's sub-$1000 offerings are solid choices, especially with springfield's lifetime warranty for the original purchaser. The trp has a couple of extra features over the other "lesser" options, but it's not worth the ~$500 price increase imo. Not to mention the trp is getting very close to dan wesson prices. Dan wessons are great, but you have to ask yourself if you're really getting twice the gun when you're paying twice the price. If that's what you truly want, and you can afford it, then go for it. But the operator is a good choice, especially if you shop around.
>>65351067Meh
>>65353636Lok, before they blew up. They're checkered palmswell if I remember, should be thesehttps://lokgrips.com/gun-grips/cz-75/palm-swell/full-checkered/cz-75-palm-swell-full-checkered-g10/
I have a used M&P 2.0 and I could trade it and get a brand new Springfield hellcat in a clean swap. Should I go for that? I heard that the hellcat is pretty snappy and unfun to shoot. I'm looking for a small CCW gun that I can have fun with on the range
>>65351112U should occasionally post a timestamp with your photos
>>65353620P220 style hood locking instead of 1911 lugs, some sort of linkless barrel for the lower lugs1911 style trigger, 1911 style safety, but does not actually use 1911 parts. It shot like a 1911/2011 but I wasn't in love with the ergos. I like grip safeties, you can hold the gun in a way to not activate the grip safety for holstering or unholstering administratively. >>65353625.380 ACP is an automatic caliber ( ACP stands for automatic colt pistol), .38 could mean .38 Special +P usually which is a revolver caliber and is basically 9mm power if not a little weaker.Power wise.380 ACP < .38 Special +P < 9x19mm Parabellum
>>65353672>.380 ACP is an automatic caliber ( ACP stands for automatic colt pistol), .38 could mean .38 Special +P usually which is a revolver caliber and is basically 9mm power if not a little weaker.needless to say, but they're not the same dimensions, right? for example, you're not gonna be able to stick .38s in your bodyguard 2.0, and you're not gonna be able to stick .380s in your snubnose?
>>65353582Thanks anon!
>>65353654Alternatively you can get the Shield X
>>65353654>pretty snappy and unfun to shootIt is, but you get used to it. The TLR6 helps with the snappiness.
>>65353620The issue with the DWX is that it'd overpriced by about $500 retail. With being such a standard contender in the 9mm market, they've kind of pigeonholed themselves into a weird grey area of being simultaneously too expensive to be desirable
>>65353582>block textureIs that the tape you meant in recommending? What about other patterns like hexagon or diamond?Sorry I'm an autist-defect.
>>65353654I wouldn't, unless you hate m&p for some reason, then yes. I'm not sure Hellcat ever grown back like the rest of the slims. Are you sure you don't want to come to Glock 48 or 365 Xmacro?
>>65353718I was thinking about doing the trade and trying to trade it right after at a LGS for a p365. I got the M&P for 300 total in the used section of my local gun store
Shot the hg-qual-7-26 with a variety of guns, had a good time with it. The PPU 124gr I used had a real strange pattern, switched to the high powered winchester flatnosed stuff for one of the groups.
>>65353736Threw that flier on the largest tombstone target with the 509c which is a bummer, pretty happy with it minus that.The bodyguard 2.0 shot the hg-qual-7-26 pretty well with the exception of the final smallest tombstone which trailed left with each shot into the other tombstones. I didn't one hand the picard's button, I never shoot one handed and didn't want to absolutely fuck my target up
>>65353724I would trade in the M&P 2.0 for a CSX-E honestly
>>65353654Do you not like the m&p? The hellcat is fine, just as snappy as the g43x which others are happy to ignore the snappiness of. The issue is that the shield plus, bodyguard 2.0, and vp9cc, CSX-E and HK cc9 are all better tinygun options and with the exception of the vp9cc can all be had for around $300-450 if you hunt around.Speaking of, shot the cc9 at the rental range today. Left group is the other /handgun/, top right is my first group, right diamond is my second group. All three 7 yards slow ish fire although this gun really ran fast in my hands. Didn't side by side it with any other micro9 but I'd bet it shoots slow fire as fast as a glock 43x or springfield hellcat would shoot fast fire just due to the latter 2 options having such severe muzzle flip. God I wish this gun wasn't so FUCKING ugly because it may be the best micro 9 I've shot yet.
>>65353750Ignore the smattering of FRT 22lr on the target. We got a bit silly.Speaking of silly, here is the tx22 frt attempt at the qual. Turns out the FRT is not the mod to add if you want to accurize your pistol.
The arex tactical is still waiting on the screws from holosun to arrive so I shot it sans red dot for the hg-qual-7-26Did alright, i may shoot the CC9 better than it though when I look back at that second small diamond group which is a bit insane.
Has anyone bought one of those threaded compensators with extended guide rod for the Beretta 92 from eBay? I was considering buying the official Beretta one but the eBay clones look similar and it's a gift for a guy who mostly wants one for looks (some recoil reduction would be good).
>>65353765And here is the arex tactical hg-qual-7-26 attempt with PPU 124 gr. The holes are rougher and I had a light strike. Not sure if thats due to having just replaced the hammer spring for a lighter competition hammer spring or just the ammo being finicky and old.All in all it was a fun challenge. >>65353585He's underselling it, he had a light strike on his reman ammo so he held it one handed for like an extra 10 seconds while he cycled it through to restrike. Me personally I'd get tired and miss with my arm extended holding a heavy revolver one handed, but he absolutely showed me up. Fucker.
>>65353690Correct. Cartridge naming conventions vary wildly depending on the norms of the time, place and designers associated with any given cartridge. Always be aware that just because two cartridges appear similar in name, dimension or appearance, that does not necessarily mean they are compatible or interchangeable. Here's a very relevant and informative video on the subject if you're interested:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zrH8nn0kAc
somebody pls post this month's target thx
>>65353830It's linked in the OP, you dingus
My LGS has a Springfield EMP in 9x19 new. Thinking about getting it. Thoughts?
>>65353830https://files.catbox.moe/clnjel.pdfAt least that's the one I've seen everybody use, so I printed and shot that one.
>>65353750jfc do m&ps really turn your bullets to .22 sometimes?
>>65353585>>65353736>>65353740>>65353755>>65353765>>65353783added
>>65353963I'm not a chainsawfag but Yoru was a great character
>>65353963don't forget mine >>65353267
>>65353979added
>its a McMaster order dayfeelsgoodman.jpg
Steel
>>65354067
>>65354070i lucked up at a gunshow. Went in 30 minutes to closing on the last day this weekend and these people gave me a stupid deal. First trip with it to the range tomorrow. Maybe now my wife will stop bullying me with her cz Shadow
>>65353910thanks
>>65354027The gp100 was a different guy if you care, and the tx22 was just for the meme
>>65354196Sorry, the table looked the same so I assumed it was all one person. Revised.
>>65354220All good brotherSince I took a long break and other anons may not know, my bounty of "If you see me at the range come say hi I'll buy you lunch/dinner" still stands. If you see a blue camo FN 509c, don't be a stranger. Also if any anons live in central PA I'll be around on a contract until october and am always happy to shoot.
>>65353585>Wiley Clapp GP100I always wanted one of those.
>>65354245Anyone anyone? or just anyone
>>65354266I've met up with a couple anons from here including GP100 anon. I always appriciate being able to shoot with new folks and try each others guns.
>>65354289Oh okay well if I ever see that pretty 509 I'll say hi
>>65354294Word, I travel for work to a different hospital every 3-6 months so there's a decent chance I'll see someone from the threads one of these days, although I've had the same offer standing for nearly 4 years now and it hasn't happened yet outside of planned meetups with anons who post here
>>65354303I'd say there probably isn't a lot of unique posters on /k/ to where that would happen often
What are your thoughts on an eagle stamped hi power? Worth it or no?
>>65354341If it had a swasti then maybe
>>65354395What are they worth if it has a backwards windmill?
Is a magnetic optic that replaces irons gay?
>>65354443It's a decent idea (magnetic dot for when you can't/don't want to get an optic cut), but it's useless because it costs the same, if not more, than it does to get your slide milled.
>>65354245I don't think I've ever seen an hg/arg person in the wild but I'm always keeping an eye out. Most people don't have stuff as recognizable as your 509, but I'm convinced I'm the only poster in my state
>>65354443The only person I've heard interested in one is Pastebin, let that be enough of a warning about it.
>>65354443Yes. Any magnet that would be removable would likely have a shifting zero. If you're only looking for minute of tiddies at house hallway distances it could probably work well enough, but at that range point shooting is every bit as serviceable.
>>65354065Those are some really sick Beretta grips. Are they stock? Imagine those gold medallions in some wood...
Ben I know you lurk here. I know your thoughts about the support thumb, but what are your thoughts about the strong thumb?https://youtu.be/NZBssjxyFQ8?t=1068
>>65354443The magnet pulls on the bullet and you lose at least 100 feet per second
>>65355049>Imagine those gold medallions in some wood...
>>65355054Shouldn't your thumb be more forward? Especially if you have a light?
>>65355085I couldn't do that without fucking up the rest of my grip
>>65355097Couldn't do what he's doing or holding your thumb forward? If the latter, how do you activate your light?
>>65355112I couldn't lock my support thumb with the strong thumb as he was doing.
>>65350611Agency Arms M&P 2.0. I want to put the Align Tactical gas pedal/thumb rest on it. Does AA's pistol build service change out the pin/bar the takedown lever rests on? Or the takedown level itself? It looks like the trigger is held in by this pin/bar.. This is my first striker gun, all my other shit is hammer like a goddamn american.Story behind the gun; old buddy from Xboxlive in TX found it and bid 550$, got outbid once then got it for 600$ before taxes and shit. Ignorant boomer fucks clearly thought its a regular ass M&P.Anyway he's getting into FRT ARs and wants funds so im giving him 700$ for the M&P. 7 becasue its decked out, still a 400$ gun IMO. 1 mag lol wtf
>>65355146I highly doubt they change the takedown lever geometry at allThe gas pedal should fit like normal
>>65353920It's an autocast, every time you shoot 9mm bullet there is a 40% chance to proc an extra 22 bullet
I really need to find this in stock somewhere so I can hold it. I've been reading comments concerning the 3.6 and someone mentioned how the trigger guard makes it feel like a Glock 30 with the stubby grip which I hate. Not sure if any of you anons have experience with this thing yet.
>>65355189It's a real looker
I want it bros
>>65355208Yeah they look good, but if the grip is too short and sucks, no amount of good lucks will fix that. My Dad has a mod 92 SB compact and I had to get magwell spacers so it's doesn't suck as much to hold.
>>65355237Please excuse the typos, I'm retarded 75% of the time.
>>65355211Closest thing to my dream revolver I've ever seen, which is obviously the vash the stampede gun (break action, 6 o clock barrel, in 45 long colt)
>>65355049Ya they're made as-is by Hogue for and sold by Beretta. Thanks
>>65354257It's pretty sweet, honestly. I got lucky and found a GB listing and got it for MUCH cheaper than MSRP. Even came with the factory box, papers and test round. It's carryable. The grip makes shooting even hot .357 Mag a breeze and the gold beat sights are really nice
Another dose of 1911 propaganda
>>65355311>putting the ancient long expired patent numbers on because it gives boomers a viagra aided boner
A second NiggerTech Gayce AD has hit the frankenglock sphere.
>Want a WML for my nightstand glock>X300 out of my budget entirely>TLR-1HL are going for $170 kinda hurts still but I could>Harbor Freight knockoff is $60 from the store>Harbor Freight knockoff is $35 sealed new on EbayAt that price I couldn't help myself. God bless China.
Noblex has a grip of new optics with turboretarded German nomenclature and a typo or something naming two different ones the same thing which makes it worse. The Acro ones have the design language of the made-in-Taiwan model so perhaps they also are. The others kind of have an Osight vibeAlso Osight made a new Glock MOS sight
>>65355429That reminds me, when is holosun releasing their aems micro, those retards need to hurry up.
>great quality flashlights available from no name china suppliers for 10+ years >finally available with rail mount and common holster compatible form factorI'm glad surefire is finally going away
>>65355429eps cores, where are the cores?
>>65355447>>65355453In Area 51 with the amber reticles and AEMS Micros/Macros
>>65355429I will gladly take the 1 in 500,000 chance a piece of lint will fall perfectly into the recessed emitter when I actually need to draw then ever put a disgusting mailbox on my pistol
I’m getting my dry fire reps in, I’ve done a few thousand dry fires in the last few days. I’m definitely looking at competing in some local tournamentsI didn’t realize how good at was at noticing minor changes in pattern, but my sights are off by about 1/16th of an inch or so for me (just enough that I can see ever so slightly more laser then I should poking between the gap of my front eight post and rear sight post). It’s not even a factory issue, it’s just the way I shoot It’s weird when I get to know THAT much about my firearm and myself. I definitely enjoy all the additional time I’ve put inFor my duty firearm I put a touch pad on my handgun light, which has a 1,000 lumen light. The idea being when I’m coming out of the holster and I’m death gripping my handgun I’ll end up disorienting an attacker
>>65351132still bummed that I passed up an ODG gen 3 glock 17 with RTF at a pawn shop a couple years ago for like $360. I didn't need it though.
>>65355501Can you explain a little better? When you say laser, do you mean red dot?
>>65355554I have a laser cartridge for my dry fire stuff. I practice on a circle that is about half an inch
>>65355493>t. never trains
I hope filling in the minor A-zone and will improve target focus enough at seven yards because IPSC dimensions are easy to draw. Otherwise, I'll have to purchase conventional silhouettes like the NRA B-27.>>65355085If the grip wouldn't work single handed then it's certainly not a good grip with both hands.Last year's drama is no longer tolerated in /hg/, victory is mine.
>>65355328it's called history, son
>>65355054>tactical bearded guy with a hat and sunglasses I've never heard of>nearly a million subscribers
>>65355731>guy who shoots less than 250 a year weighs in how to shoot episode
>ds warrior in 45 came in>has bull barrel which I didn't expect but aparently 10mm/45 have them while 9mm is bushing>full length guide rodAfter I shoot I'll see if I should just replace with tooless or not. First lubing was kind of a bitch to field strip because of the full length
>>65355783Excuse me, he declared that you must give him a clean slate for the 50th time after sperging out for the 50th time, why dont you trust the scorpion?
>>65355769Same here, who is this guy? Kek
>>65355769>>65355807new batch of guntubers to replace the old>Paul HarrellDed (RIP)>IraqiVeteran1488Divorceraped
>>65355793Can you post pictures of it? I had no idea the warrior DS was bull barrel. How does the reverse plug work? Red Team Armory has mags for 42 bucks each, they also have shorter 11 rounders. With different followers and springs you can increase the capacity of the 11 rounder to 13-14 rounds. No idea what you can do with the long 13 round body which I think is 155 or 170mm but they call it 140mm for some fucking reason. Way longer than a real 140mm. https://www.redteamarmory.com/product/checkmate-magazine-2011-compatible-45acp-ss-13rd
>>65355800What's hilariously bad is he didn't take the five (5) seconds to try dry firing (no ammo required pantybin) one handed with his thumb curled downwards and see how much less the sight picture moves. Does the interest rate on his ACOG go up every time he dryfires?
>>65355815Here it is, with proof of bull posting shortly. It came with 2 13rd 45acp so might be interested in your site. Also saw there was some 18-20rd 45acp rdd for 2011 but I don't know how much that would extend or if that would just be like having a brick.
>>65355858Bull. Aparently only for 45 and 10mm.9mm gets bushing and has aluminum frame
>>65354067Oh get the aftermarket wood grips. My dream nu-bond would be a stainless SF pdp f with wood grips.
Forget if I asked this before but what is your most hated thing about your favorite handgun
>>65355897I get lube bukkake'd when I shoot it (operator issue)
>>65355858Wait the DS warrior is actually out? How does it shoot??
>>65355783>>guy who shoots less than 250 a year
>>65355934I just got mine, havent shot it yet, but reviews say that it is basicslly a prodigy killer. Will find out because this is definitely what 2011's need now, a major volume manufacturer making good price-point models. Only issue I have seen in reveeas is that the coating wears off fast, so maybe a special coat or quick cerakote will be in order
>>65355189>I really need to find this in stock somewhere so I can hold it.Same. I'm not interested in the 3.6, but I am interested in the 4 and 4.5. I was practically sold on picking up a Staccato P, and then these things were announced like four weeks later. Now that the HD line is out, I can't bite the bullet on a P without trying these out first. You've reminded me, I read that a range about 20 minutes from me is the largest Staccato dealer in the state. I'm going to call them right now and see if they've got the HD line available for rental.
If youre constantly rechambering a single round for your EDC when loading it for the day, how do you safely dispose of the round when it's been pushed into the case a noticeable amount?
>>65355972>he doesn't cycle through his EDC ammo>he doesn't use up all his EDC ammo at the end of the yearNGMI
>>65355972>how do you safely dispose of the round when it's been pushed into the case a noticeable amount?Shoot it through my buddies stribog or my FN509c because both eat literally anything I toss at them. Or just toss it out man you're worrying about such a small ammount of money just by the generic brand mustard at the store next time and youd save more than you lost.
>>65355966I'm leaning towards the HD P4 now. I don't have giant hands but I hate grips that force your pinky to hang off. Means that conceal carrying is going to be difficult if not impossible though.What range? If you don't want to give away too much info because doxxing concerns then don't worry about it. A range near me has a few staccatos in stock for rental, sadly not the 3.6.
>>65355991Not really concerned about the money. Just getting my fingers blown off
>>65355972Pull out the bullet, throw the brass in the trash or reload it, do what you want with the bullet, save the gun powder or pour it in your garden.
>>65355972Call your local PD and arrange from them to send a hazardous materials pick up from your home. Don't touch the bullet or leave it anywhere hot or dangerous until then.
>>65355997What gun are you shooting? Is it rated for +p+? If not a lot of ranges have a "dud ammo" bin you can toss it into
>>65355997Go to your local range and throw it in the unspent cartridges bucket
>>65355993>I don't have giant handsI do, which is exactly why I have no interest in the 3.6 lol. I'd rather print than shoot a gun a small grip.The range is Uncoiled Firearms in Livonia, MI. I did just call them, and they confirmed they have the entire Staccato lineup available for rental. I'm going to have to drop in there within the next week or two.
>>65356019Damn, nowhere near me. The search continues.
>>65355935Kek
I'm going to paint one of the new mags I ordered pink so I know it's for dry fire and nothing else. I'll probably take out the follower and spring too so no bullets can go in and the slide doesn't lock back if for some reason I rack it way more than I need to reset the striker. And maybe jam some stuff in there so it's the same weight as a loaded mag
**********CMP has .22LR for 5.6cpr shipped***********>>65355972With a USPAlso buy better ammo. Or just stop buying Hornady
>>65356102There's a plastic piece you can put in the mag that also makes it act like a loaded mag without any ammo in it so the slide lock doesn't activate, you can find them on Amazon in packs for cheap.
>>65356115I wish my 10/22 wasn't a picky piece of shit, I've pretty much only had good luck with aguila and cci shit. Even federal automatch which I thought was a pretty decent bulk choice stovepipes. Volquartsen extractor didn't noticeably help>>65356164Oh neat, I'll take a look
>>65355858>>65355864god damn it, the Warrior DS is everything I want in a .45 2011 but only came out AFTER I've invested alot of money in .45 2011s slowly iterating on my custom builds
>>65355054>literallywho LARPer and ESL brownoid trying to teach me how to shoot Anything but a slight variation on the Rob Leatham/Brian Enos thumbs-forward grip is completely fucking retarded in ANY application. god I fucking hate "tactical" shooters.
Going to get a red dot for my 92, has a factory rdo cut. Probably just getting a holosun. Are there any recommended adapter plates companies to go for or just grab whatever? Last red dot I had was direct mount
>>65356216Burt did you notice they changed the Chicken Bacon Swiss at Arby's? Now it's 2 pieces of thin bacon instead of one thick piece. Anyways answer this guys question now that I have your attention.
>>65356216I'm using the dlah plate on my A4, no problems so far, itll take a while to actually get it tho mine took about 2 months
>>65356019>Livonia, MIAfyer you shoot go to Cantoro's Italian Market - Plymouth and go to the right of the entrance where the resturant is. The dining area is always booked up with reservations but the bar has seating and you'll be able to have the best italian meal in the Detroit area.Staccatos are cool, renting 2011s is always a blast unless they're made by Springfield. I wish I knew about uncoiled when I lived in Detroit I used to hike at the rotary park 5 min away.
>>65356216Eleven 71 makes titanium platesSomeone else makes lower than stock plates.Dlah makes low aluminum plates, pic related. Be very careful to not overtorque into the softer aluminum plates. Get a low dot to begin with so an EPS or similar low deck height optic to mitigate the height.
Talk me into enjoying my grandpas old S&W .38 Special revolver instead of keeping it in the safe.Also, I’m not quite sure what the exact model is, so if someone could help me out, please let me know.https://litter.catbox.moe/ckjykznb9gvg1s3t.jpg
>>65356235Yeah I was looking at the dlah’s but I saw they take forever. I think holosun does their own adapter plates? Might just grab a cheaper one while I wait>>65356241I was looking at the holosun 507c. I have the scs for my vp9a1k that I like, but figured I should try something bigger.
>>65356248Good lord that's pretty. And you should shoot it because it was made to be shot, appease the machine spirit.
>>65356176I would say it's the most cost effective "correct" 2011 style pistol you can get right now. Modular Ds, purely American made, optics and rail, with multiple calibers it's at least on paper the Toyota 86 of 2011's. Have to actually shoot the thing though, as said earlier the coating is definitely existing put would need some form of refinishing at a earlier than expected date.
>>65356260The .45 is a ramped barrel so you could probably caliber swap it with a new barrel and slide
Is there a 2011 but in .40
>>65356269There is old sti's and probably builder/boutique,
Need help bros.I'm trying to clean that range rental SP2022, i've stripped down the slide but i can't FOR THE LIFE OF ME, get that fucking pin (pic related) off even one bit. Said pin holds the firing pin safety and the firing pin in place so i need to remove that shit.Is it a special pin with some kind of taper ? I swear i've been at it with a solid hammer and that shit is going nowhere, the punch is gonna give up before anything else. On my model this is NOT a coiled / roll pin. It's seems like a solid pin with a somewhat rounded end on both sides.
Is there a 2011 but in .50
>>65356269My Infinity 2011 in the OP is in .40. .40 was one of the more popular calibers for the 2011 since it allowed it to compete in major, this was before 9mm MAJOR became popular and it was more easily bought than .38 Super.There's plenty of older 2011s in .40, but they're often beat to shit and also not very reliable. You could buy the new Kimber Warrior DS in 10mm and then fit a .40 S&W barrel (Fusion Firearms .40 S&W government bull barrel with wilson nowlins ramp), or just shoot 10mm like a man.
>>65356291No I fucking looked at doing a .50 GI conversion to a 2011 and guncrafter hasn't done it so you can't.Perhaps if someone made a .45 caliber glock mag 2011 it would be possible since you could then use the .50 cal glock mags and use the guncrafter .50 cal 1911 slide and barrel. Very unlikely all the stars would align for that build to work.
>>65356289do you NEED to clean the firing pin?
>>65356298the problem with .50 GI is that you can barely even buy the ammo. pretty sure GI only sells the cases and bullets which are like a dollar each. you may as well just get a deeg
>>65356300My brain tells me yes and won't let me being defeated by a pin.
>>65356301yeah but imagine how cool you would be with a .50 caliber 2011
>>65356255Thanks anon! I really appreciate that. Years ago I shot an otter with it. I was in my boat and we had an otter on our property building dams and killing fish.
>>65356313otters don't build dams?
>>65356309>how coolthey're only 5 bigger than .45, no one will know unless you tell them
>>65356318>>65356313lmao
>>65355412I wish we had those when I was poor. Being a poorfag then sucked because you only got to pick from dogshit. Do what ya gotta do, I tried one in the store and I would absolutely buy that if zi was starting over.
>>65356318>>65356323Might’ve been a beaver then. Either that or I’m misremembering the dam part.
>>65356365Don't. There's so much to live for.
>>65356365Since you are a faggot no doubt self reporting your own post to get the thread baned, You can find info https://sprc.org/
>>65356365I can fix you
>>65356373I can't even tell what this is. Faux suppressor? Anyways I want those mlok covers and 1911 grips this dude makes but buying from Japan is such a hassle.
>>65356387Faux suppressor.Palmer Luckey, the billionaire behind Anduril follows him on twitter.
Why would I want the thread banned when I am literally coming to you for information? If it will cause a problem I'll delete it. Not trying to make issues.
Bro smoked an otter for building dams. Lol.
>>65356449>beaver builds dam>otter pays for it
>be me>find nice neighborhood innawoods>nice pond>plenty of fish>quiet little place>start cutting down trees and build myself a dam>even make friends with local otter and we become bros>all is well>one day out of the blue some human comes out to the pond in a boat>see otter bro just swimming along>human pulls up a big iron and just shoots otter bro>mfw
What is your favorite cartridge and what is a handgun you wish was available in that cartridge?
>>65356347beavers don't eat fish and damns increase the number of fish because more places for them to live.
>>65356313
>>65356239>used and abused range thot with a twerked extractorHOW COULD THIS HAPPEN
>>65356538>What is your favorite cartridgethe cheapest while still being reliable>what is a handgun you wish was available in that cartridge?lemat
>>65356593>Same range has a used and abused Atlas that shot flawlesslyIdk man some guns can hold up to abuse and some can't. The two Staccatos I've shot at different rental ranges functioned flawlessly.
>>65356239>>Afyer you shoot go to Cantoro's Italian Market - Plymouth and go to the right of the entrance where the resturant is. I was actually just there about a month ago. We held a coworker’s retirement party there. We were served a selected menu though, so I couldn’t just order whatever I wanted. I liked it. Saw the ice cream on the way out, it looked great, but they were already closed.
It makes me sad to think that someone is out there shooting cute little otters.
>>65356176Are you the anon that machined his own 2011? I would say that any properly functioning firearm you made and/or smiffed with your own hands is an incredible feat on its own, regardless of what your money can buy.
>>65356636It pisses me off
>be me >be otter, doing otter things >I hear dire straits “heavy fuel” blaring >a V8 cigar boat pulls up, straight piped exhaust battling with his stereo >the driver says “did you make that dam? >I shake my head no >driver pulls out a Smith and Wesson 4506, blindly bright as the stainless steel catches the sun>”not on my dam lake, beaver” >sent to otter heaven as “ When my ugly big car won't a-climb this hillI'll write a suicide note on a hundred dollar bill” blares
>>65356807>pov you are a piece of shit otter about to get what you deserve
>>65356248>I’m not quite sure what the exact model is, so if someone could help me out, please let me know.S&W Model 14, possible K-38. >>65356347>Might’ve been a beaver then. Either that or I’m misremembering the dam part.also, If you aren't sure about the pest status of an animal, don't shoot it.
Favorite gun for TOD?
>>65356837We were finding dead fish in our pond at the time, so am pretty sure he was the culprit.I appreciate the advice though.>S&W Model 14, possible K-38I don’t think so, cause it’s got a thinner barrel profile and also it has a little screw on the front side of the trigger guard.
>>65356862>I don’t think so, cause it’s got a thinner barrel profile and also it has a little screw on the front side of the trigger guard.Check the interior of the frame for a model # marking.
>>65356807Kek I had to check that out
Is eBay or gunbroker better to sell gun accessories like slides and grips on?
>>65356934eBay is much more accessible and easy payment. Gunbroker you cannot set up online payment without going through a lot of hoops and actually having a business. eBay will take a big cut of payment, Gunbroker takes like 1% but you have to do payment though checks, money order, or PayPal/venmo (not Gunbroker approved).
>>65356934GAFS
>>65356289I've seen some sig armorers say that the firing pin retaining pin should come out from right to left, but I'm not sure that's actually necessary. You using a proper setup with a bench block? Or better yet, with the slide chocked up in a vice?
If I want an optics ready DA/SA gun my only options are Beretta M9A4/92X/94X or CZ P07/P01/Shadow right?
>>65357191Grand Power, Sig P series, Langdon optics cut HKs?
>>65356313Wtf you fucking psycho you shot an animal for something it didn’t do. You shouldn’t be allowed to own guns, unironically.
>>65357191>my only options are Beretta or CZ right?Sig 229 / 226
>>65356248Sell it. You are too stupid to own guns.
>>65357199>>65357209>226s have optics cuts nowWell hot damn I had no idea. Are they decent or have the metal guns fallen victim to nusig shittiness?
>>65356878If I swing open the cylinder, there is a 4 digit number different from the sn. But I don’t think it’s a model number.
>>65357202It was actually a beaver. I was misremembering because it was so long ago. We thought it was an otter at first, but it was in fact a beaver.It was killing our fish, and in my state that is perfectly legal.>>65357211No. I won’t.
>>65357212>nusig shittinessThese are very narrow, model-specific engineering things, not a quality blanket. There just happen to be a lot of themYes they're fine. Hell one of my favorite guns is from their worst-of-the-worst years and it's been wonderfulAlso, you can just get almost any gun you want cut for whatever footprint you want. Pic related was made 6 years before Sig started doing factory (proprietary) optic cuts
>>65357212They’re okay from what I hear. I think the older, short extractor is supposed to be better, but the newer milled slide is better than the old stamped one where they had to attach the breech block in with a pin. I don’t really love the SA only Legion guns, and I don’t like the Legion cerakote finish, so I’d stick to the non-Legion guns. They’re still mega pigfat, especially without the EE grips, but I’m a handlet.
>>65357212>Are they decent or have the metal guns fallen victim to nusig shittiness?I can't really tell you. Ron Cohen has been in charge of Sig (since 2005) for almost as long as I have been into guns. The Sig forums used to be full of enthusiastic Sig owners cursing all the issues they had with their purchases. Back then Bruce Gray was promising to fix Sig 220 extraction issues with a new extractor that he never actually released. There was a small cottage industry of refinishing Nitron slides that rusted from looking at them. The 220ST that I had back then worked fine however. Sig has likely been up and down and up with the metal framed models for a decade before the 320 fiasco. The 226, 229 are great guns. I'd take a chance on them if I wanted one. I am not sure on the optic cut compatibility, or if conversion plates needed. Don't get the fancy models (Legion) if they are Cerakoted. Just get the more basic option with the optic cut (Elite) and upgrade (grips, trigger, etc) from there.
AI sloppa for fun but honest question. If HK made a 2011 that took vp9/p30 mags would it sell?
>>65357266Not as well as a modernized USP would
>>65357266HK has literally never made a racey gun, so, no, it wouldn’t sell. It would suck.
For the purpose of breaking in a trigger does dry firing accomplish the same thing as live fire? Like if I pick up a new gun can I just sit and rack the slide pull the trigger a hundred times a minute for an hour and break it in?
>>65357349Sure, but you might as well be actually dryfiring rather than just pulling the trigger on the couch like a retard.
>>65357349yeah basicallyyou'd be better served by putting 200 rounds through it and then taking some Flitz to any areas where you see wear on the trigger mechanismsbreak-in is different from a nice trigger on a really old gun because break-in is basically fitment of the action by the friction surfaces burnishing against each other which doesn't happen with dryfire
>>65355816Sure, it might be the better grip for target shooting but it's not a combat oriented.>>65355800The slate is forgotten, only the obsessed still remember and care.>>65354742>holding the bag on archaic mountingI don't plan on baking the next bread, have a good night!
>>65356538>What is your favorite cartridge .50AE>what is a handgun you wish was available in that cartridge?Luger P08
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>>65357427I’m with him on this one. Fund it.
>>65357435No accounting for taste I suppose
>>65357231Thanks again for the Ruger posters!
>>65356636>shooting cute little ottersWhy?!There was a beaver who was relocated multiple times at my local conservation club, multiple times, before it got lead poisoning.Never a problem with otters.
>>65356538>What is your favorite cartridge 12 gauge>and what is a handgun you wish was available in that cartridge?double barrel bullpup revolverside loading 1911
>>65356538>favorite cartridge7.62x25 tokarev. I'm a sucker for necked down cartridges.>handgun you wish was available in that cartridge?Grand Power K100. I'm also a sucker for a rotating barrel, so both of those in the same gun is my dream.
>>65357266>HK 2011Kek imagine the pricetag
>>65357888Mk23s go for like 2500 new so I'd guess somewhere around 3000 for a base model with no optic cut and black irons, but if it had paddles it would sell
HK did say for them to make a factory optic cut hammer fired handgun it would cost about 4m in R&D and likely be purely for the consumer market and thus not realistic. Maybe that changes if it's targeting the 2011 market, but 2011 people probably wouldn't want paddles and HK nerds probably wouldn't want an hk 2011 with button mag release. Idk, who's to say
>>65356235>>65356253I personally wouldn’t buy one again, mine was nowhere near fitting properly, I reached out to the guy and explained where the issue is and the dude just never responded. It was not a minor fitting job, had to remove a lot of material to just get the dot to fit
>>65357358>it's not a combat oriented.>makes it harder for anyone to disarm you>gives you stability without requiring a perfect two-handed grip>it's not combat orientedA statement expected from sub-250 round/year shooter.
>>65356313>>65357225>we though it was the animal that doesn't build dams at firstSo you're retarded either way.
>>65358032Why wouldn’t 2011 people want paddles? Is it an aesthetics thing?
>>65358161Paddles are an inferior release
>>653581612011 people are 1911 people and they are used to button mag release. Paddle fans are in the minority. Common race guns are what, glocks, 2011s, shadow 2s, etc. I don't think many people looking for a race gun are going to want to get used to paddle after using nothing but button. Ofc I'm assuming that this theoretical HK 2011 is going to be marketed towards comp shooting and not like a "compact" carry gun
>>65358337>glocks, 2011s, shadow 2sAs race guns get towards more racist side of things, only 2011s tend to remain.
>>65358135Why even bother replying directly to him anymore its ppanon but worse. Like clockwork he will make shit takes then sperg at anyone who disagrees then demand a clean slate and that everyone forget about years of his history for the millionth time.
>>65358391>Why even bother replying directly to him anymoreFaustian Spirit
>>65358391>Why even bother replying directly to him anymoreWhite Man's Burden
>>65358321Blasphemous statement
Are there any good targets I could print for slightly better training and what not? Haven't gone shooting in months because it's too expensive
>>65357427you're saying you DON'T want something in between a luger p08 and the autocannon from helldivers?
>>65358421You can order a bundle of whatever targets you like off Amazon for cheap
>>65358391>Why even bother replying directly to him anymoreNiche speaks about this
>>65358433Shut the fuck up
>>65358436pantybin malding
>>65358449I thought we were making TD references
>>65358421https://www.triggerpressers.com/articles/dot-torture-drill/Made me a better shooter real goddamn fast. If you can't holster draws just grab it off the table or start at low ready.
>>65356538>Cartridge .357 Sig>HandgunEverything, it should have replaced 9x19 and be 20 cpr
>>65358057Who do you recommend if not the dlah plate?
>>65358057He does make them in the order they came in so if you have a bunch of orders ahead of you you'll have to wait a bit. My dlah plate (I'm probably going to swap for a lower profile one) also fits multiple holosuns rather than the one it was made for. It seems to work, just I was an idiot and bought the mid one and not the low profile.
>>65358527Just use the factory plate ya mong. You're not better than it.
>>65358527Eleven 71
>>65358476what's TD
>>65358135That revolver grip doesn't feel as comfortable as FF thumbs. >makes it harder for anyone to disarm youThat's the role of a good holster and being armed at all. Use a pistol lanyard if it's such a concern, kek.>stability without requiring a perfect two-handed gripIf that's your priority, go prone or press against cover.>sub-250 round/yearFifty rounds per month is 600 annually. Educate yourself.>>65358391>ppanon but more loveableFTFY
>>65358588True Detective
>>65358604you cannot call yourself loveable
>>65358609Then quit obsessing over me.
>>65358032What the guy in the email meant is that he would waste 4 million in the process of making an optics cut slide. It doesn't take 4 million to mill a few slides then test them for 20k rounds and some salt water or whatever their testing process is. Somehow small gunsmiths manage to make new cuts without 4 million all the time
He literally got depressed because Burt doesnt like him lmao
>>65358634Big corporations are genuinely retarded.
>>65357191Also tanfoglio and bersa (one model)
>>65358634not defending the terrible company but you need to update engineering drawings, update tooling and manufacturing, assembly line space for the new machine, etc. 4 million is insane and likely includes some forced diversity supervisor or some shit to make sure the optic cut is equitable High up HK likely does not care about the civilian market as all which is a huge mistake since the US civilian market drives firearm innovation. HK will NEVER see a contract for a hammer fired handgun with an optic so there is no reason for them to retool to make it. Probably the only hammer fired handgun to see a new military contract is the Staccato HD line.
>>65358680It likely includes a horrendous development cycle as is normal in large companies. Iteration after iteration and decisions happening at the speed of 1 meeting a week.
>>65358704the internal audit to come up with a 4 million dollar cost to update an existing design likely costed them hundreds of thousands of dollars to do
>>65358604>it's not combat oriented>*talks about comfort*>*focuses on getting disarmed while weapon is holstered, not when you're in a COMBAT situation where your weapon is drawn*>it's not combat orientedPantybin moment
Oh heyull yeahh
>>65358727Cool! What did you get?
>>65358680We don't generate nearly as much money as military contracts do, which is why they hate us.
I've been trying to solve the mystery of how a Glock "connector" replacement leads to a binary trigger or seemingly automatic fire. It's known that the cruciform sear will reset automatically between rounds but the "connector" will not until the trigger is released enough for the "bar" to engage it like a pawl and cog. My theory is that the "connector" angle can be adjusted to the point where the "bar" will be driven down along with the sear rather than forward and level. >>65358713>when you're in a COMBAT situation where your weapon is drawnIf you're not shooting the assailant(s) trying to disarm you at that point then your grip is the least of your major malfunction.>>65358638>depressedThat wasn't the word used to describe the initial pain but it doesn't matter anymore since Burt inadvertently exposed you and what's actually going on here.
Oh no hes onto me laughing at him being a retard!
>>65358862>pantybin's combat scenario is a stationary hand drawn paper target 5 yards away and not someone charging at you trying to pry your weapon from you despite you already putting a few holes into him.Biggest Retard Award
>>65358874You're falling for indian chatgpt engagement bait. Just share guns and ignore him please
>>65358888I wish he was an indian bot its just a sperg who gets gassed up by /arg/ to come shit up this general.
>>65358862Is that a video/screenshot of an ND judging by the smoke?
>>65358888>Just share guns and ignore him pleaseChecked and no.
How much of a meme are drop leg holsters? I picked up a cheap surplus Safariland holster for my M9A3 and X300 and it’s my first time ever fooling around with a drop leg and I’m not sold on it. I have a spare Safariland belt attachment that I can just stick on but I don’t want to write the thing off just because I’m not used to it. Drop legs make sense with plates but for just wanting a holster to carry my Beretta with a light while hiking around is a drop leg too tacticool?
>>65356019>Uncoiled Firearms in Livonia, MIIt's been a while since I've been there, but the last time I was they had a pretty decent selection. It also wasn't full of niggers that stink like weed like Action Impact on 8 Mile and Beech.
>>65356298>Perhaps if someone made a .45 caliber glock magWasn't there talk a couple years back of Stealth Arms doing a Platypus that took g21 mags?
My local pawn shop has an old Colt Police Positive (might be a special, but I can't remember) in 32-20 WFC. It's nickel plated and looks well used with a good bit of the plating worn off. They're asking 300 and it's been in there for like ever. If I were to guess at least over a year.Is it worth it, or would you say it's a hard pass? Could it be a good otter gun for when they're building dams?
Best shooter in the entire general doesn't use that revolver grip and all my dry fire has been thumbs free so I will not be investing in a new one. #SorryNotSorry>>65358874>trying to pry your weapon from you despite you already putting a few holes into him.That's why I bother shooting the minor A-zone unlike you remaining in the comfort of the major A-zone>>65358902>video/screenshot of an NDAD because the fire control itself is the issue https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbEFNgnxvfE/
>>65359061>those "groups"Yikes
>>65359042The 10mm was too difficult for them to do and they scrapped that, I wouldn't be surprised if the 45 was the same.
>>65359067That's what I was afraid of. I would've bought one in a heartbeat. Are there any 1911/2011's that take g21 mags?
>>65359053No anon save your money. Old gun in meh condition with a very expensive cartridge. If it was 100 I'd say maybe.
>>65359082The platypus is aluminum, historically aluminum .45 1911s don’t have long life spans Among 2011s .45 and 10mm are rare and barely have any magazine support until very recently when checkmate started making them
>>65359066They'll improve when I lock the fuck in next time.
>>65359156Thanks friend; I appreciate that. I may possibly go by there tomorrow to take a closer look. If I do, I’ll take a picture and post in the next thread. Though I assume since it’s been there for so long, something may be wrong with it honestly..
>>65359180>historically aluminum .45 1911s don’t have long life spansPresumably because they used machined castings instead of billet. Cast aluminum generally has porosity issues if the qc isn't on point checking for that shit. It's also dependent on what specific alloy is used.t. former mill, lathe and qc guy
Are Beretta M9A3s worth getting with M9A4s and LTTs being a thing? Do they do anything different other than not having a slide cut?
>>65359312Older. Italy made. Hasn’t been in production for a long time so if you’re on some fuck ass site selling you new M9A3s it’s a scam. Occasionally they pop up used. Inferior to the 92X RDO, M9A4 internally since those have the upgraded short reset trigger. The LTT combat they sell is basically the same thing as the M9A3 but with a compensator already attached.
>>65359324what if i already have an m9a3 from when it first came out and it predates the a4 and the ltt, is it worth upgrading or just selling it and buying an ltt? all ive done to it is put a d spring in it.
>>65359354You can just put in the LTT TJIAB or just the LTT trigger bar and the match hammer or get the X-Treme S kit from Beretta if you can find it for 120 bucks. Easy install, takes me 5 minutes since I’m very experienced.You can get your M9A3 slide optic cut by LTT
>>65359199No problem, yeah the other problem with old revolvers is unlike a lot of autoloader problems which can be fixed with a spare part, timing issues require a knowledgeable gunsmith and aren't cheap to fix.
>>65359373are italian ones more collectible? if its worth anything i could sell my italian one and just buy an ltt
>>65359373Mr. Langdon, why are you here?
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>>65359061>Best shooter in the entire generalWhere is your challenge of the month target?
>>65359016See for yourself. Run around for a bit.
>>65353654Snappy is a meme. What the Hellcat is, is hard to shoot well.
>>65359663I'm not attempting the challenge
>>65360356gay
>>65360665Send me 13 cartridges [9x19] for the challenge if you give so much of a fuck
