/gq/ Infographic Emporium:
https://imgur.com/a/gq-infographic-emporium-1-00-1lZ5xw6
Legacy Infographic Reserve: https://imgur.com/a/k-infographic-reserve-AIKzwWF

>Last time on /gq/, anons bought like ten thirty dollar Protech X-CAL LPs. A2Grip endorsed the Hesco 4800, Taobao Anon talked about .50 AP rated plates from the China and cheap shields, and anons talked about CLOAKS.

>QUICK ARMOR GUIDE 2.176
CODE: * = active NIJ-cert, ^ = NEEDS SOFT ARMOR, DND = do not drop, ** = military.
>Special Rifle Threat:
/pfg/: Protech X-CAL LP^DND (Last ditch option!)
Budget: Hesco L211 or T212
Mid-Range: Hesco M210
High-End: Hesco U210 / U211, LSAPI**, or Tencate CR-6450SA.
>CONUS Minimum (M80, M855, M193):
Budget: Hesco 3611C, SAPI**^, or Gilliam 6001
Mid-Range: Hesco 3612* or 3810*
High-End: Hesco 3811* or 3811LV^DND
Elite: Used Cercom CER-EMH**^
>CONUS Medium (M80 + M855A1 or BZ API):
Budget: Protech 2120-5
Mid-Range: Hesco 3411* or LTC 19513
High-End: LTC 28780**
Elite: VelSys PBZSA**DND or Hesco SC3812 or Protech DT306C-HW
Elite-Plus: Used Ceradyne MH3 CQB**^DND (10x M995)
>CONUS Optimal (M855A1 + M80A1):
Budget: Highcom 3S9 (SAPI-cut)
Mid-Range: Used LTC 28550** / 28590** or Highcom 3S9M* (SAPI-cut!)
High-End: Used LTC 28595**
Elite: Used LTC 28570** or VelSys TSA**
Elite-Plus: Tyr XHA4/S6/T(DND) or GEN 6 LTC TSA**
>Level IV / CONUS High (.30-06 M2AP):
/pfg/: Used Protech 2014G (last ditch option)
Budget: Gilliam 1023, Protech 2014MC, or Hesco 4403*
Mid-Range: Hesco 4601* or ESAPI**^ (REV. G-J)
High-End: Hesco 4800(DND), 4800LV^DND, or Protech 9812-R1(DND)
Elite: Tencate CXP-800 SA or Ceradyne SOF ESAPI MK.II**^DND or Adept Emperor
Elite-Plus: Ceradyne SAEC**DND(??)
>Level IV+ / CONUS Extreme (Various)
Budget: Protech 2230 (M2AP at +600ft/s) or Gilliam 8002 (.300 Winmag Swiss P AP)
Mid-Range: Adept Colossus (7.62x51 Swiss P AP) or REV. C XSAPI**^ (M993)
High-End: Rev. D XSAPI**^ (M993+)
Elite: ECSAPI** (M993)
Elite-Plus: Ceradyne 96034** (7.62x51 Swiss P)

>armor autism
>Chineseum
>Shields
>Skirts
/gq/ from a decade ago would be best up current /gq/ and taken it's lunch money. Anon, you are an embarrassment. Get a real hobby.

>>65373158
>would be best up current /gq/
Bro so fired up he's just saying words
>Anon, you are an embarrassment. Get a real hobby.
You're on 4chan and your hobby here is complaining about other anons hobbies. Way to tell on yourself my man

>>65373158
Nothing's stopping you from posting about whatever gear you want to post about.
> B-but people post about armor!!!!!!
99% convinced that this guy is either an RMA or Highcoom shill, tbdesu. What works over on Reddit doesn't work here, faggot.

>>65373165
>99% convinced that this guy is either an RMA or Highcoom shill, tbdesu. What works over on Reddit doesn't work here, faggot.
Agreed. That RMA paid guy (you know who I'm talking about) who used to post here is, frankly, a parasite and bitches / moans when he doesn't get access to a forum for discussing armor. This is exactly on brand for him.
Alternatively, it could be Yushi trying to rebuild his rep and he knows he's burnt reddit by not delivering and making shit up.

Remember when we used to get cool write ups and bios and the various guys that would post here along with their gear setup and the reasons they made the choices they did? I member. Now all we get are infographics and AI generated skirt pics. Sad

>>65373182
>doesn't refute anything and just makes shit up
I miss bunkbedguy too man but I accept your concession.
Alright, let's talk about something other than armor. The same dude on ebay has been selling dozens of LA-12 GLIS 200mW laser dazzlers for actually reasonable prices, for over a year now. He just got more in.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/336705454091?
Very useful shit. Basically a vis-only PEQ with a monster green beam.

>>65373188
I>making shit up
Newfag.

>>65373193
>has no actual argument
I've been here since the 2010s. I once again accept you don't have an argument.

Can we just reflect on the fact this guy bitching about armorposting thinks the $30 Protech X-Cals are Chinese?
>>65373195
Shit, way to shred credibility.

>>65373197
My argument is you're a gaywad and that I think it's cute that you get so butt fucking offended by anyone mentioning they don't like armortism. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

I miss Gargantuanon and /k/oko. They'd make you eat dirt and drink toilet water.

>>65373202
You didn't answer my question about how many times you posted about the $75 Protechs.

>>65373204
>I hurt your feelings!
>has literally been begging and moaning for armor autists to go off into a separate thread for over a year
>knowing and admitting this would kill both threads
Once again telling on yourself. Sad!

>I miss Gargantuanon and /k/oko
You've formed parasocial relationships with anons long gone. That's sad man. Move on.

>>65373202
Also, I never implied the Protechs were chinesum. You just shill chinesum here now because lmao. The fact that I distinguished the price of the Protechs should've been clue enough. The fact that you're trying so hard to "discredit" me just makes you come off as more of a homo. Not a great look. But go ahead and spend the day defending your honor.

>>65373209
Me personally? Three times and every time it's been framed as a last ditch option, which it is. They suck but they're cheap.
There's some other guy shilling them in other threads but it seems to just be a shitpost.

Maybe we dont need a zombie armor thread thats just one guy posting.

>>65373210
>parasocial
I don't think you know what that word means anon. Do you think conversing with me now is a parasocial relationship? I used to talk to those dudes all the time, even was in the /gq/ discord a for a little bit before I deleted my old account.

>>65373212
>while shilling for $35 chineseum that I wouldn't recommend to Tyrone let alone /gq/. How many times have you posted about the $75 Protecs?
The above is you. Yes, your argument about the "Protecs" given plates are a pair directly implies they're Chinese. I see that one hit you in the shin.

How about we actually discuss some shit? I just got an NP550 in the other day. feels great. Sizing is a bit odd if you want over-ear earpro, pads are okay, but the protection is... nice. Also the 3.8lb weight doesn't feel that bad.

>>65373218
Lol, I'm talking about how you're sitting here waxing poetic about dudes who are long gone, like they're your grandparents.

This thread is off to a wonderful start.

>>65373221
Again, you're trying WAY too hard to discredit me like I'm pretending to be some authority on anything. I'm just calling you a gay fart huffer for posting skirts and having armor autism. Chill your micronuts.

>>65373226
I accept your concession that you goofed on who makes the Protechs, exactly as I said.

>>65373225
At least they didn't get their panties all wadded up whenever someone called them fags. Such a little queen lmao. I've said my piece, have a nice day making infographics and skirt pics. Faggot.

>>65373230
If it makes you feel better sweetheart, by all means, assume away.

>>65373226
>bitches about people not talking about gear
>guy tries to talk about gear
>nooo finish your argument with me!!!

>>65373231
>>65373233
>I pretend you're mad and that means I win!
>Meanwhile I'm just glad this guy is giving the infographics and RMA-seethe inducing copypasta free bumps
Pottery

>>65373241
What makes you think I work for RMA of all things? Are you feeling alright?

>>65373107
Hit up Beez

>>65373243
I never said you're working for RMA, lol, but that one seems to be hitting you good. Telling on yourself again?

If you did I'll go email Blake and explain this shit makes his company look unprofessional.

GENTLEMEN, WE ARE IN THE RUNNING FOR THE FASTEST /GQ/ SINCE THE TWO HAMBOOMERS GOT INTO A PISSING MATCH ABOUT ANTENNAS

>>65373249
Do it, I fucking dare you.

>>65373255
>working for RMA confirmed (?!?!)
Aaah shit homes >>65373165 called it.

>>65373259
You won't do shit you fucking pussy.

2 retards fighting is gonna kill the thread faster than any amount of armor autism will

Daily reminder that RETURN MY ARMOR SUCKS

>>65373263
At this point, if he doesn't realize he's being baited than there's no hope for him lmao.

>>65373263
I agree, can I go back to autismposting about how the Adept Emperor is going to cuck the Hesco 4800?
Actually it's supposed to be released in August... so that would be timely, but I'm confused on who I'm supposed to be shilling for. Nobody is sending me any checks for this.

>>65373266
Yeah I figured this was a piss taking exercise. Whatever, more bumps for the infographics!

>>65373273
Sure you did bud. You were totally just kidding when you accused me of being an RMA employee. Lol.

>>65373274
RMA employee and baiting are not mutually exclusive amigo

Alright, time to repost some new used shit.

New shit from Hudsongunner:
Sets of LTC 23600 Level III all-PE plates, 3.3lb a plate or so, $150/set. 10x12.
https://tacswap.com/post/6a0cbc89cb28e70aaf794321
Highcom 4S17s in nominal 10x12 (more like a 9x11) and 8x10 (teeny!), $160/set. Single curve.
https://tacswap.com/post/68253d60ad08104afb221e29
Point Blank IC34s, old-school III/IV dual-rated plates that need good IIIA (basic won't do) to meet either requirement. No drop! $150/set.
https://tacswap.com/post/68e71ab4ffc5f7cdd369781f

Protech 2014G standalone bare minimum IVs remain $199/set. 2120-5s are now $216/set, standalone III or 6x M855A1 at 5.8lb each 10x12.

>>65373275
>he's still being baited
no hope lmao

And here is the Adept Emperor's test report from two days ago for anyone curious. It's standalone IV, 4.6lb for a supposedly legit 10x12, and stops M2AP with sub-30mm BFD. Going rate is probably $3k-3.5k a pair. It's been out a few years as part of Adept's secret LE / military lineup but SHOULD be available this coming month! Also your daily reminder that all armor companies have secret LE / mil products except maybe RMA. I think Gilliam actually has a secret plate or two, even, and that's a dude in his garage.
>>65346252
Of course, they are liable to vaporware it.

>>65373283
>he's still bumping the infographics and the copypasta
Thank you!

Found what looks to be a pair of LTC 28595s hiding in a tacswap listing. 600 bones for the pair bundled with an AVS. Left plate looks to be water damaged however.

https://tacswap.com/post/6a353aac856cbcbbf4481f8a

>>65373292
>he's this concerned with bumps
Actually sad.

>>65373300
>continues to bump
Either way I win. Dunno what else to tell you.
>>65373298
28595s indeed going off the lockheed martin inspection sticker. Horrible shape though. These aren't high safety margin plates that can take a beating and still perform to relevant CONUS threats.

>>65373308
You might actually be autistic brother. Are you even allowed to own firearms?

>>65373316
my rock hard barrel is inside ya mudda

>>65373317
>not denying it
lmao

>>65373325
Son it's actually me your dad. I bought a turkshit shotgun for your mom to use as a dealdo but it negligently discharged.

>>65373354
>still not denying it
You give off the same energy as the Italian backpack guy

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>>65373356
Son it's da one on the left. It's turkish so it was cheaper than a real dealdo from spancers. I had to put da tape on there to savor the aroma of ya mudda.

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Alright op I am revoking your cooking permit and giving you a baking license. This thread is hilarious.

>>65373278
>the 23600s are now $175
I CAN'T AFFORD IT

>>65373403
That extra 25$ cuts into fent money cuh...

>>65373410
Cuh that's almost one entire Protech X-CAL LP.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1189527918

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Each Protech XCAL LP is a promise. It is two hours at a dead end warehouse job. It is a promise that your life is life and certain death becomes less certain. To delay the inevitable is the most efficient use of your time in this fleeting mortal coil.
To purchase a Protech XCAL LP is to potentially get pussy, because a dead man in this violent world gets no pussy. Each Protech XCAL LP gives you the opportunity to spread your seed. A Protech XCAL LP delays the inevitable and prolongs the opportunity to smack that ass, to use your bone as the weapon.

Think of your future unborn children. Think of the promise of days saved by the most affordable plates in the world. Think of the women you have yet to meet. Think of the pussy. Think of the Protech X-CAL LP.

Buy some plates asshole two plates is less than the new COD.

>>65373429
New /gq/ copypasta just dropped

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>>65373158
nuGQ is fine. I still lurk. nobody gave a shit about soft armor skirts 10 years ago because the threat profile was different. It’s cool armormaxxing isn’t just a meme anymore. r8 my new plates fags.

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>>65373453
/pfg/ would be proud of the X-CAL LP.
>>65373454
>nobody gave a shit about soft armor skirts 10 years ago because the threat profile was different
Indeed. Like it or not the soft armor skirts are a thing in Ukraine. Ukrainians have theirs. Russia has... Jinwudun.
>r8 my new plates fags.
You bought plates inferior to Hesco 3612s or 3810s in almost every way. Did Apex shuck these on you?

>>65373454
Pretty nice plates, how much did you snag em for?

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>>65373475
>I hope not sticker because he could have saved some weight with 3612s for about the same or gotten major performance gains with the Militech RF2 SiC for much less if he was willing to chinamaxx.

>>65373475
$550 a plate after tax
>>65373474
hoplite. it’s the same protection.

>>65373483
Ay let a man enjoy his plates.

At least he didn't go RMA

>>65373503
Excessively heavy at 4.2lb nominal 10x12 for what they do. 3611s are a fraction of the price used and weigh less / have the same protection.
>Hoplite
Also kinda a bullshitter ngl. They lied about the 28590's rating.
>>65373504
Agreed, just saying he could have done better mayne

>>65373517
is hesco also not a bullshitter company who’s plates frequently are undersized or overweight?

nobody’s completely honest in this industry.

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>>65373536
>nobody’s completely honest in this industry.

Other than Tencate, no one's better than Tencate.

>>65373536
LTC states themselves on the spec sheets the 23707 is 9.6x11.75, but the 8x10 is curiously 8x10. The nominal sizing weight reduction games are played by everybody, even Ceradyne, unless contracts demand precise sizing.
Even then, the 23707 is 4.2lb. Much heavier than Hesco counterparts.
>is hesco also not a bullshitter company who’s plates frequently are undersized or overweight?
3811 and 3814 have nominal sizing issues. Hesco is however usually honest that the 10x12 is in fact 10x12. See people complaining on reddit those don't fit in SAPI M platebags because they're too wide.
>overweight
No not really. The weights are honest unlike RMA and TacScorp for examples.
>nobody’s completely honest in this industry.
That's for sure, but Hesco at least tries with their civilian lineup and doesn't half ass it like LTC.

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Still skeptical on use case for pl8’s. Ghillie not yet done. Threads a fighting. Cheapest lightest pl8? Don’t need lvl 4. Inb4 pick 1. Go birds. It’s cheap over in Mongolia lots of armor but none was exactly wearable.

>>65373558
Even Tencate isn't clean mayne. They were Shotstop's supplier for actually NIJ cert plates and knew about their games, plus they never disclosed those 20 hit Level IV LIBA plates had gaps between pellets big enough M855 could sneak through.

>>65373611
>Cheapest
Protech 2150-5s are 200$ a pair from Hudson gunner coming in at 5.8lbs 10x12
>Want lighter plates?
Hesco 3611Cs (expired warranty) and L211 are around 400$ on tacswap right now.
>Want level 4?
Paraclete 9900x are 5ish lbs and are going for 400-500 on tacswap. You can also luck out on a pair of ESAPIs that fell of a truck for around the same price.

>>65373703
Excellent list. You can get Paraclete 10079s from Botach for $200 if you need cheap IV too. Superior to the 2014Gs Hudsongunner has.
https://surplus.botach.com/point-blank-paraclete-100079-level-iv-triple-curve-torso-armor-plate-10-x-12-shooter-s-cut-police-trade/

>>65373611
>Still skeptical on use case for pl8’s
If the bad guys have rifles, and they do, plates are the last line of defense. They also enable no-selling most pistol threats which soft armor generally won't do.

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side soft armor or side hard plates?

CONUS, on a tac team, trying to build a proof of concept to replace our current set up of shitty mystery meat 10x12s and concealable iiia panels in a sucky carrier.

FBI data suggests far more piggies are shot anterior than posterior. using local data from the past 30 years, a limited sample size, it’s 100% anterior. explosives being such a rare threat conus, Im starting to reach the conclusion pushing more rifle protection forward facing is the correct choice over full soft armor coverage.

I know we could get a balcs carrier or a proprietary cut and get a lot of soft armor coverage, but I see more and more teams moving to plate carriers with some soft side panels.

if that’s acceptable, would it not make more sense to give up my 4-5 o clock, 7-8 o clock soft armor for hard plate rifle protection on my obliques?

>>65373560
what do you think of the hesco l110 side plates?

>>65373703
>>65373717
Bless will look into. Might let me keep some of my casino money.
>>65373784
I think it boils down to practicality for me. Performance is undoubted. What is likelihood of occurrence where you know that you may get shot at and in these scenarios will you even have time to don the armor? A proactive vs reactive thing where most scenarios I can think of are reactive. Also, if you have early enough warning of a scenario that you may need the armor, do you have early enough warning to avoid the scenario entirely? I’m not sure of the answer and even if it can be applied universally.

>>65374011

My main use for them outside of LARPing is when the local idiots start shooting into the air on holidays like the 4th and New Years. There's a slim but nonzero chance one of their shitty durr JSPs or something will come through my window, so I slap on my PASGT helmet and plate carrier until they drunkenly pass out early in the morning. It's a yearly ritual for me.

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>>65373901
>side soft armor or side hard plates?
Side soft armor is going to have higher coverage unless you use specialty flexible rifle armor like DragonSkin, Verco, Hexar, FRAS (blegh), etc. On the other hand, soft armor is USELESS versus rifle threats so if you're primarily facing rifles, then plates it is and must be.
> Im starting to reach the conclusion pushing more rifle protection forward facing is the correct choice over full soft armor coverage.
That is the trend, especially when dealing with active shooter situations.
>would it not make more sense to give up my 4-5 o clock, 7-8 o clock soft armor for hard plate rifle protection on my obliques?
If you're facing the enemy, yes. If there are concerns about them getting the drop on you or you getting flanked, which shouldn't be the case since you're on a team, then consider wider coverage. You can get larger side plates. Largest I've seen other than running XS SAPI-family in certain carriers is 8x8 but 6x8 is the most common "large" size.
>what do you think of the hesco l110 side plates?
Not bad but Hesco is very wishy-washy on whether the L110 counterparts the L210 or the L211 and old stock is thus going to reflect the L210, which is not M855A1 rated and will get blown through by .308 threats outright. The 3110s counterpart the more robust III+ 3411 and are a safer bet, but are thicker and heavier.

Are you otherwise confident an SRT is the right call, especially given future hypervelocity ammo concerns a few years down the road, or are you thinking you'll just reassess and re-eval then?
>>65374011
I highly approve of that anon's list. Those 9900Xs perform wonderfully with Buff and for $500 a set cannot be beat. That's less than Militech RF3 Blacks. They are lighter and unlike the Militechs no concerns of cheat ringing.
Granted, they get their ass KICKED by M993 because of boron carbide amorphization failure, but if you need to stop tungsten 7.62 then get different plates. Gillie 8002s are very attractive.

>>65374106
ive actually done a local threat profile based on what we’ve seized over the past few years.

of the ~1200 guns, it’s 12% rifle calibers, with 5.56/.223 being the most prevalent rifle caliber. most of those guns are 16” or 7.5” barrels. even if m855a1 starts showing up in pawnshops at that point, I suspect the performance out of the ghetto blaster arp to be suboptimal.

I dont see m855a1 showing up at “sporting good store” or pawn shop in the next five years, and 10 years from now I can buy new plates

>>65373429
>requires a $400 set of IIIA backers to meet III spec
someone explain how this is /pfg/

>>65374135
ARPs aren't good armor busters unless run against PE plates, so those aren't a cause for concern. My issue with SRTs is that they're easy to brute force by virtue of having a weak backer (this is why they're so thin) and they don't match good ceramic III+ on multi-hit. Future "M855+" will be a problem because higher-velocity 5.56 is the rage now and will only get more common from here. Also it just helps to have the headroom. Baltimore SWAT is rolling VelSys PBZSAs good for M80, M855A1, and BZ API for example. Better to have and not need than need and not have in case a new threat emerges and you're first up to bat.
>and 10 years from now I can buy new plates
And they'll be much better performers. Word on the block is Integris (Tencate) has some very attractive new RF2 models in the wings.
>>65374140
If you match v50s and such you don't have to use Safariland's specific packages. You just have to be damn sure the substitute soft armor meets or exceeds. Compare v50s, special threat testing, and BFD numbers.

>>65374162
>Compare v50s
Has anyone figured out what soft armor they were supposed to be paired with in the first place?

>>65374169
Yeah it's right on the gunbroker listing, spec sheet is second picture. Note that, per the picture, the plate needs a certain variety of panels to stop anything and then a more limited list allows it to stop 7.62x54R LPS.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1193055838
Also I have no clue why Safariland had the NIJ Mark on the spec sheet, this isn't 0101.06 compliant for shit.

Also daily reminder that DocGKR, the terminal ballistics wizard and OG armor dude of Lightfighter, P&S, and other old hangouts, thinks Level IV is dumb and you should either go below (M855A1 + M80A1 if near a military base) or go above and focus on actually modern AP threats.
Gilliam's (chinese) 8002 plate is still $314 a pop, 8.3lb, 1.2", and stops rounds as high as .300 Winmag Swiss P AP, significantly exceeding even XSAPI rating.
https://www.gilliamarms.com/products/model-8002-max-heavy-tungsten-rf3-silicon-carbide-ceramic-armor-plate?
I can't think of any time M993 has shown up in a shooting incident but Doc has access to statistics most people don't so maybe he knows something.

>>65374106
>>65374162
I want to be clear I’m not married to the l110. I recognize I want side armor, I can’t decide what that side armor looks like.

since pistols are 88% of my threats, soft armor does 88% of the job, but rifle hits are so much deadlier that is 88% an acceptable cost? I don’t think so, but a level iv side plate is 3 pounds or more vs a half pound soft armor panel. some of my buddies have the ferro 3ac, and it hugs and supports them like a pseudo-harness. I worry plates will just make my carrier even more front heavy and jab my sides

>>65374204
So based on your statistics you have a 12% chance of dealing with rifle threats. Soft armor is useless versus rifle threats so you're frankly cooked if facing M855 on a bad day at a bad angle.
I gotta be honest, I'm feeling a BALCS setup would be best. You're majority pistol in terms of threat profile, absolutely, but it makes sense to have the ability to add hard armor as needed. You're more flexible if you can do both than being married to hard armor alone. This also enables the use of thinner ICW plates.
You don't need full Level IV unless the more potent rogues' gallery shows up. M61, M80A1, B-32 API, M2AP. They aren't common, really, for now. The bare minimum however is M855 + M193 + M80 for most purposes and SRTs don't do M80 well generally.

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SOF ESAPI anon here, you guys are so fucking embarrassing Jesus christ does nobody have any dignity or shame, arguing with people you can't even name or see for months.

(Pic rel, XL sof esapis, balcs carrier from beez, chest-rig turned placard from Helikon-tex)

>>65374252
Welcome to the autism zone, we're special

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>>65374252
Needs a black samurai straw hat and a multicam black cloak.

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cleaning out my grandparents house found two sealed kits of the israeli PAPR
i recall these are somewhat desirable?

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>>65374181
I don't think I've seen cheap chink iiia meet these v50s (and this won't even cover 7.62x54r)

>>65374286
Not gonna sugarcoat it I don't even trust Chinese v50s because that's a thing you have to batch test.

>>65373717
What's the downlow on the 10079s? My google-fu isn't turning up any test reports

>>65373901
That's not you, right?

>>65374614
Police oriented companies like Safariland and PB won't always post test reports, especially for hard armor. They're listed on the NIJ CPL.
Older model, alumina-aramid multi-curve. Standalone 1", 7.5lb for a 10x12. They are inferior to the Protech 2230, but better than the Hesco 4403 in headroom. They've got a v50 of 3,194ft/s versus M2AP, which is significantly better than the 4403's, which is... basically a cunt hair higher than NIJ required "must stop" of 2,910ft/s.
For comparison the 2230 is 7.5lb 10x12, 1.2" thick, IV AND III rating, and the v50 is a secret number but they got zero penetrations even with M2AP above 3,510ft/s so it's gonna be super high.

Gotta be honest, the Hesco 4403 is facing a tough crowd.

>>65374619
no, just wanted to post an example of the ferro 3ac side armor.

>>65374708
Ok, thank god. I was going to shit on you for being a retard and wearing your plate carrier incorrectly.

>>65374717
It's a pretty shitty carrier, too. There's probably one pound in cobra buckles, lol.

I'm starting to think the industry checked out on NIJ 0101.07 entirely, still only 40 total entries on the CPL.

>>65374140
Also forgot to mention this earlier, these plates are SINGLE STRIKE. NIJ Level III is 6x 7.62x51mm M80, these are rated for only one.

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>more armortism
puh thetick.

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>>65374982

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>>65374984

Multiple people complaining about armor in every thread, they almost never contribute to gear pics or talks though. Everyone post PC setup or record your own suicide (I already posted mine but I'll post more later)

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>>65374989
There's muh gear.

>>65374982
>that posture
Terminal lumbago at age 25

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>>65374989
Quit whining, I'm posting gear and pics of the old guard that would take your milk money.

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>>65373115
>Nylon Edition
Am I welcome here?

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>>65375005

>>65374999
>furry

Scrolling through old /gq/ threads from a decade ago is such a breath of fresh air compared to what we get now. There's all sorts of talk. And yes, I've tried to get discussion going here, but unless it's about plates or armor, no one responds.

>>65375052
>no one responds.
They all left for discord or reddit, I'm sorry bro, but I'll talk to you if ur lonely ;)

>>65375052
What do you mean? Some dude said to post gear, so I posted my gear. >>65374993
Here's your (you) for the dopamine hit, you emaciated faggot.

Getting spicy

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>>65375052
I really need to get around to replacing the L210s in my kilt with PE plates, that way I can run four and actually wind up lighter.

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Does anyone on here have a Tacswap account? I live in Australia and want to buy something off there but the site won't let me make an account.

Bro trying to do an ITAR violation

>>65375094
I just want a specific safariland holster

>>65375100
So you want someone's tacswap account and want them to just give it to you?

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>>65375075
I need to see this full kit, I have something similarly stupid and over-armored

>>65375107
Working on redoing the vest with better, more larpy deltoids and so the cloak doesn't fall off, I'll post when that's complete.
Also I'm debating on replacing the L210s with either Militech Featherlights or Gilliam GARM 1s.

>>65375107
I am China's strongest warrior

SOF esapis, side esapis, balcs panels, shoulder 3a, axillary (armpit) 3a, groin 3a, neck 3a, thigh 3a, face 3a, helmet 3a

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>>65375122
>SOF ESAPIs
Was getting shot by TEN 7.62x39mm BZ API with 1" spacing part of your plan?

>>65375128
Yes, also I need XL plates and saw an opportunity for XL plates, I didn't even know what they were for months after trading for them

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>>65375138
Surely you realize the 10x BZ API claim is also for the SAPI M, and a SAPI XL has 30% more surface area?
Was standing still and getting shot by half a fucking mag PART OF YOUR PLAN!?
>I didn't even know what they were for months after trading for them
I remember when you came here months ago and asked if it was a good deal to trade normal REV. A ESAPIs for them. Indeed it was.

I still haven't figured out what happened to SOF ESAPI MK. I and regular MK. II, since yours and everybody elses are MK. IIB, or if they kept the line going.

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Not pictured is newly acquired 10/22 in magpul chassis

>>65375151
liking the lever

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>>65375107
>>65375122
China's ACTUAL strongest warrior:

>>65375105
No, I'd like if someone would send a message to a seller for me because I can't message them without an account.

The message of course would be "will you post this to Australia ?"

>>65375183
>not using DMGEAR XLs so he can run 10x12 plates as crotch flaps

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Old JPC

>>65375100
Which one faggot

I just spent all day looking at gq threads from a decade ago and I remembered when I was younger. My hair full. My eyebrows plucked. My skin so soft, my eyes beaming with joy. The namefags I've lost. The comrades I've lost. They all so hurt me bad. I am down bad for the old ones.
I speak my piece and all of you do nothing but talk about armor. Its a cancer that has infected this rancid corpse. The autists feasting on its carcass. I would rather this thread die and we all go to reddit as a kind of sadistic valhalla - glory oh glory - than sit captive in this wretched purgatory.

>>65375246
Anyone wanna venmo this guy ninety bucks for a pair of Protech X-CAL LPs?

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>>65375246
>26
Still whining with no gear pics or discussions

Because what's the point. The old guard would steal your breakfast and beat up your older brothers. Sharing this with you lot would be like giving virginity to a 1/10 hoe.
gq died a tumor's death. armor autistic fucks all over the corpse like maggots gnawing on cocks

>>65375275
Embarrassing and pathetic

I never wanted this. I never wanted to unleash my frustation. Together, gq talked about gear and actually discussed it. But the autism betrayed us, betrayed us all. Autists stole attention from the things that actually matter and bore us to death. Gear discussion has only one chance to prosper... if you will not make your own thread, thenI will.So let it be GEAR, from the crye JPCs to the team hillary helmets. Let the autists seethe, let the twenty thousand plates that do the same fucking thing but oh this one is HECKIN ARAMID be forgotten. Though it takes the last second of my time, I will see gq freed once more. And if I cannot save it from these autistic fucks, anons, then let gq burn!

>>65375246
>>65375275
>>65375299
Stop talking to yourself

>>65375309
still can't help yourself

Anyone have experience with the Ukrainian company Protec and their kit? Asked a few days ago and got some half assed remark, looking for both cheeks this time.

>>65375222
I want to get a 6354do a guy is selling one for much cheaper than anywhere I could get it for elsewhere

>>65375339
Good place to get high coverage soft armor. Their nylon gear isn't really anything special, although that Frankenstein carrier looks interesting.

>>65375359
I'm mostly interested in their AVS 2, primarily because I heard it's the same quality as Crye but it's half the cost for the plate bags and harness system.
I would be getting those, and then real everything else: Crye 2 band cummerbund, Spiritus SPUDs, Shaw placard+admin pouch, Shaw Magnum panel. Stuff some 9900xs (Or ESAPIs if the boomers on Armslist ever respond) and ESBi's in it.

>>65375372
Like I told you last time, faggot, anything made in 'Ukraine' is imported chink airsoft gear. Do you unironically think that quality nylon companies have somehow materialized there since 2022? Or is it more likely that it's fucking dropshippers flipping aliexpress garbage and profiting off rubes like yourself who think it's le combat tested

>>65375399
Do you have proof cocksucker? Or are you just flapping your gums?
>Do you unironically think that quality nylon companies have somehow materialized there since 2022?
They're have quality nylon companies for a while now, thank you daddy Uncle Sam's money
>who think it's le combat tested
Literally who the fuck said that?

>>65375372
>AVS mod 2
Don't see anything special about it compared to other knock off AVS carriers. Sunsnow and shekkin gears make good knock offs for cheaper. Like that other guy said, most "Ukrainian made" nylon gear is just Chinese anyways. But at least their soft armor is made with good uhmwpe.
>Crye 2 band cummerbund
No tubes?
>Spiritus SPUDs, Shaw placard+admin pouch
Why buy a knockoff plate carrier, but buy Spud pouches that cost 70$ per? If you're gonna chinamaxx go all in.

>>65375339
Look man, it's a Ukrainian company drop shipping Chinese products. Meaning, whatever they're selling them for is marked up from what the Ukrainian company bought them for. At the end of the day, a Ukrainian company is skimming money, selling Chinese gear. I doubt many, if any, people here have any actual experience with them, because they're a cheap Chinese plate carrier. If you're worried you're getting ripped off, you are. Because that's how drop shipping works. If you want to buy a reliable plate carrier, Chinese drop shipping probably isn't your best bet. If you're looking to get a good deal, then yeah, I'm sure it's fine. You're buying a $280 plate carrier, that's been marked up. Just understand that you're buying a $200 plate carrier, and you're going to get a $200 plate carrier.

>>65375406
>Do you have proof
lmao seething already, fucking holol simp faggot. Go to their own site and click 'location' it literally shows a fucking shed in the middle of nowhere which is far too small to be a factory of any kind.
>They're have quality nylon companies for a while now
Literally every single gear video made by anyone in Ukraine features them talking about how all gear is chinese airsoft clone shit and anything legit is price gouged to the max.
>Literally who the fuck said that?
You implied it. The only reason you want to buy gear from 'ukraine' is for some deluded reason you think you're getting quality gear made by people at the bleeding edge of individual gear development. You think that because two nations of 60IQ alcoholic retards are killing each other by the million with drones and artillery that somehow that translates into the innovation of superb tactical nylon gear for you to buy and larp with in the safety of you gay little flyover state

>A2 turns off his trip and sjitposts
>/gq/ 150+ posts in <1d
I ain't reasin all that.