The end of /hg/ - elion. The PX4 compact production is pausing. Thread Theme: https://youtu.be/h6ebbLvswnUGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik Previous: >>65409073
>>65414122It doesn't say anything about the actual PX4 Compact pausing though, just the Compact Carry which is the langdon collaboration gun. I could just be high on copium
>>65414122Should have started with Misato's piece.
Ben's take on Staccato. So if they are mid, what is a 2011 that is good? Or is that reserved for the 4000 dollar range?
Thread theme.https://youtu.be/oIscL-Bjsq4
>>65414165Fatlus
>>65414172>7000 dollarsYeesh.
>>65414165Ben also likes MPA as a (slightly) more budget option
>>65414143she used superior .40s&w
FN is liquidating it’s 509 stock and many places are selling optic cut full featured models for sub $350. Imagine buying an rxm or crusty PD trade in glock with no optics cut for $400. Or worse that guy with a bersa tpr9. Shit buying a $600 gen 6 glock is highway robbery >>65414165The best 2011 for the money is sig p211 no contest
>>65414165Staccatos don’t have the best triggers or fit. Their decision to make the standard size 4.4 is polarizing, Ben prefers the 5 inch standard size that the 2K11 and other 2011s use for their full size model. The 2K11 is at a better price point and has an external extractor. You’re paying for the brand with the staccato. One of the things that I think soured Ben’s opinion is one of his gun’s had a bad slide stop, they replaced it, but mentioned that they had a batch of bad slide stops: they knew they had bad parts but waited for customers to complain. It could be that not all of the batch were bad and only a few were out of spec, but waiting for customers to complain is a bad look for a duty pistol. I don’t remember how Glock handled their bad RSAs but I also remember it wasn’t perfect. Ben Stoeger is also very cynical since he’s been shooting for a long time and probably has a million rounds through handguns alone. I think the staccato is the standard that all other 2011s should be compared against still though. Obviously because they’re the most prominent and also they hold the trademark for the term “2011”.
Revised the Salinas challenge to make it more accessible based on last thread's feedback. Let me know what else to change. Once it's good-to-go, I'll post a pdf DL link.
>>65414223>FN is liquidating it’s 509 stock and many places are selling optic cut full featured models for sub $350.Where at?
>>65414165BUL, kimber 2k11
>>65414247Gun. Deals
>>65414258I checked, but the lowest I was seeing was slightly over $400.
>>65414233Glock didn’t announce shit about bad RSAs. I had light primer strikes at least once per mag on a 43x and they immediately knew and sent a different one
>>65414269Maybe they went quick. I got the full size 4.5 inch barrel model which apparently no one has ever bought since it came out two years ago once FN enjoyers we’re already locked in. Only one YouTube video on it exists as far as I can tell
I have no experience at all with .45 guns let alone subcompact. 45s. Could anyone here tell me how a USP compact is to shoot? How the recoil and whatnot is. Or a HK45c.
>>65414279Darn, thanks anyway.
>>65414258Is this legit?
>>65414283Gun deals is pretty good at keeping verified and legitimate sellers on their site, but if you're concerned you can do a search for them to double check. I know that I usually do.
>>65414280My first ever gun was a Hk 45c and with awful newb shooting form I was still scoring hits at 10 yards. It’s probably the smoothest compact .45 ever and can hold ten rounds while being small. 10/10 gun
>>65414235It may just be the in-n-out styled instructions suckering in my smooth brain, but I think this looks fantastic. Someone will bitch about it being untimed but like 3 people have timers, it's better that way.I'll try it and probably be painfully mediocre.
Neon Genesis Evangelion is like Citizen Kane, not particularly good in its own right but revered for being foundational to the contemporary medium.>>65414235TYFYS
How'm I supposed to zero a red dot when I don't know how to shoot and all I do is walk to the woods drunk and shoot busch light cans by the river
>>65414165Kimber ds warrior
>>65414182MPAs hardly qualify as a “budget” option. They may not cost as much as an Atlas, but they cost more than every Staccato except the XC. Personally, I don’t even care if they shoot well strictly because their 2011s are the ugliest fucking handguns I’ve ever seen. I know that shouldn’t matter, but it does. They look like Robocop’s dick.
Why would I want an FN though
>>65414320Rest the gun on something so less of your drunken stupor is represented on paper, even if you can't shoot it'll be closER to zero than whatever you're doing now
>>65414349So you can shoot antisocial chuds at In-N-Out and be praised as a hero in your town and in the New York Times.
>>65414143I'm glad that somebody liked my photo, I should do a new one with my .40 S&W USP
>>65414362I have no In-N-Outs in my state.
>>65414369No NYT op-ed for you then [slurps Napoleon shake].
I'm waiting for the nearby Culvers to open upThose burgers are amazing and shit on McDonalds
>Miss every shot>Get called a heroI knew training was pointless.
>>65414387Shake shack mogs to oblivion.
I like Hardee's
>>65414397You mean Carl’s Jr?
>>65414398Never met the man.
>>65414387Oh you're in for a treat, ever since the major fast food chains jacked up their prices there's no reason to ever go anywhere but Culvers, it's so good.>>65414394Overpriced and tiny
>>65414122>>65414125My cope is that they'll prolly come out with an updated one in collab with Langdon that comes with a damn optics cut at least. If we are lucky they'll drop one with a better frame texture as well. I'd like a PX4 but the fact it's a lil dated keeps me from getting one
>>65414405I just bought a PX4c and if they released one with an optics cut, 92 safety, and better grip texture I'd probably buy another.
>>65414394Oh yeah I love them too
>>65414387Hope you brought a suppressor and a laser/light combo for your gat, because 4chuds are getting uppity lately and the only thing standing between total incel carnage are goyslop eating good guys with meme guns.
>ANON GET TO THE IN-N-OUT
Anyone else tried a Walther GSPPretty accurate, but slightly heavy
Talking about the FN 509 price reduction and stock clearance got me thinking, so I went on FNs Defense website and found this. Looks like they may start pushing this new flagship pistol...
Is the 509 the one I can't squeeze too hard?
>>65414387McDonald’s burgers were always garbage compared to Wendy’s and BK. What shines at McDonald’s are the fries and nuggets. Culver’s is unacceptable trash though, can’t believe you and another anon in this thread are gassing them up. I’d rather starve than eat another Culver’s meal.
>>65414404>>there's no reason to ever go anywhere but CulversHere’s a reason; food that doesn’t taste like wet cardboard.
>>65414437>>65414441I'm so sorry that your tongue was removed as a child, at least you have the internet to communicate with people
>>65414436The 508 has been tested almost as much as the p320 at this point. Very very solid handgun
Last year I finally bought myself one of pic rel. it’s a lot bigger and heavier than I thought. :(It’s one of those guns for me that I love the look, but it feels “..ehh”. Anons, what do?
My LGS is selling a Gen 5 Glock 45 for $350 with original box and three mags. I don't NEED it but it's such an insane deal
>>65414457Buy that shit.
>>65414457That does sound like a pretty insane deal.
I just like 'em bros. Don't know that I'll buy another handgun for the rest of my life, these 2 seem to cover everything for me
>>65414167Real thread theme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmpcLLbSqFY&list=RDgmpcLLbSqFY&start_radio=1
>>65414479Isn’t that guy like trans or something?
>>65414487What guy?
>>65414454Buy the CO2 version, the one that can shoot airsoft or .177 pellets, it doesn’t matter. Buy 4.5mm styrofoam beads to act as wads. Plug the rear, pour in table salt about 1/8 inch to 1/4 inch fill, then push in the other all the way to the salt to cap the load. You now have an easily reloadable salt gun that obliterates house flies and other flying pests. You can use rock salt and or a heavier load if you’re shooting wasps, the table salt fucks up their wings but you need multiple shots to kill them otherwise.
>>65414407I'm genuinely shocked they haven't made an updated version by now. Call it the PX4X or something stupid. A grippier grip texture and a native optics cut along with a trigger kit based off the Langdon version would be ideal. Doubly so if they make it so you can swap the slides from fullsize to compact and the frame won't be gapped up
>>65414235>Once it's good-to-go, I'll post a pdf DL link.Shit I can't just print this image can I?
>>65414499Like this
>>65414428Looks like a Taurus.
>>65414407>>65414504I wouldn't be surprised if they come out with a new version using Langdon's optic cut like they did with the elite LTT II
>>65414436Yeah
>>65414493That anime guy.
>>65414437You must have went to a really shitty culvers. I think what's more likely here is you live in some sort of hellhole and think everywhere else is like that.
>>65414516Wait that's the TPU glock.
>>65414510Yeah, not loving it
The best thing about McDonald’s is a double quarter pounder with cheese
>>65414457that’s seemingly just free money if you flip itsomething’s gotta be wrong
>>65414542Only the worst contrarian would disagree with you. There's probably a few of them ITT
>>65414542Nah, it’s the sausage egg mcmuffin, coffee, and hash brown combo
>>65414556This but steak egg and cheese biscuit.
>>65414542I used to like the spicy chicken sandwich but they changed something
>>65414436>>65414516You're thinking of the FNX, and it was a bad batch of polymer they resolved like a decade ago.Culvers Curder Burger is the best burger in fast food but god limits it to once a month as to not kill us from overindulging
>>65414390yeah realistically the dude is a useless goofballthe shooter got taken out by the cops later
>>65414535No, it's the FN. Screenshot was from a video I can't post on this gay ass millennial site.
>>65414472based
>>65414387>CulversI wasn't blown away by the burgers there. Jumbo Jack remains my fast food preference.>>65414524The series was conceptualised as having a female protagonist but the producers decided against it. Nadia from The Secret of Blue Water was the basis for Shinji's character art however. Though not necessarily queer, he is meek and emotional like a woman.
>>65414479>GISMbasedhttps://youtu.be/wk75CgqmNRg
>>65414499>>65414509wtf thats genius
>>65414428Lmao FN cannot make a good handgun to save their life. I bet this one will also be a massive piece of shit as well. The only handgun theyve made in probably the last like 50 years worth anything was the FNX45 because of its mag capacity and that's it. What a shit company. Solid AR parts tho lol
Do we trust literalwho reloadz?
>>65414623The 509 is an amazing platform and supremely reliable. Hence the LAPD testing AND the MHS handgun trials People bitched and cried about the trigger being too heavy and FN fixed it without making too amazing of a trigger a la p320
>>65414608They don't blow me away either but it's good enough for fast food. The main thing for me is they always have a bunch of people working so you don't have to stand there waiting for someone to take your order, and your food doesn't take an hour. >Jumbo JackMy nigga.
>>65414630FN makes shit handguns and people rightfully do not care about them at all. As soon as they can make a normal handgun that doesn't suck complete and total donkey ass then I will maybe give them a pity look. If they weren't dipshits theyd unironically release a pistol that uses Glock mags. Tired of every damn pistol using its own mags. It's the current year and if you are dropping a pistol that doesn't use a common mag type, kys
>>65414615my dad invented it I think, he walks around the house in his cowboy holster and belt set up just annihilating flies. The CO2 version loads just like a real SAA which is alot of fun. unfortunately the CO2 gun does need it's seals replaced like every 400 shots or so. https://www.umarexusa.com/colt-single-action-army-45-177-pellet-nickel
>>65414640You basically said a whole lot of nothing the only concrete point made is admitting to being a poor that needs glock mags in their handguns
>>65414609Nice I used to have the "I owe you nothing" back patch. https://youtu.be/nWB4ox9Joz0?si=GJv_S41IzjdJB55h
>>65414624Nope, that's why I had to start buying factory ammo online.>>65414638>don't have to stand there waiting for someone to take your order, and your food doesn't take an hourGood point! Better drive through service than In-N-Out (not a reference to last week)
>>65414630Didn't people dislike the 509? I remember seeing a bunch of people saying it sucked years ago.
>>65414624A range I hit in Atlanta often makes you use their range ammo for any rentals so that you don't sneak in any reloads, but their range 9mm is shoddy ass whoeverscheapest reloads. Had 3 not go off in a box one time. Surely if reloads blowing up guns was as big of a worry as folks say they'd use WWB or something.Speaking of range rentals, tried the 2k11 target side by side with the DS Warrior and Staccato P. The DS Warrior is noticably budget and probably the worst 2011 I've shot. Not a bad gun, but the trigger and muzzle flip are both bad for a 2011. The staccato felt like it had a better trigger but the 2k11 shot better groups in both my hands and the /handguy/ I shot it with. The kimber also handled recoil better, absolute joy to shoot.
>>65414654It’s not talked about because it’s not truly revolutionary and customizable like a p320 and doesn’t have the normie appeal and staying power of glock. Kind of like the APX
>>65414608>>Culvers>>I wasn't blown away by the burgers thereThey are legitimately the blandest burgers served anywhere in America.
>>65414660>The DS Warrior is noticably budget and probably the worst 2011 I've shot. Not a bad gun, but the trigger and muzzle flip are both bad for a 2011.The 9mm one is aluminum. Not sure why they did that. Bumble shartsman said it noticeably flipped more than steel frames while not being that much cheaper.Your opinions of the 2k11 match alot of other people, the 5 inch 2k11 is better shooting than the ~4.5 inch Staccato P.
>>65414654I like mine and so does everyone I have try and shoot it. LAPD put 20,000 rounds each through 2 randomly picked 509 pistols and they both made it 20k rounds without parts breakage or stoppage.Everyones got different taste in guns of course but if you prefer a more aggressive grip texture you should try picking up a 509 next time you're at the gun store. For $350ish they're a steal.
>>65414509These are the shells, right? front and rear? Are you plugging both ends with the styrofoam beads?
>>65414670>The 9mm one is aluminum. Not sure why they did that.Shit that would explain the drastic difference in recoil. Thanks for the info. The DS Warrior really wasn't a bad gun it just was bad in comparison, if someone wants a budget 2011 the prodigy is still the way to go. Springfields have their lemons but when the DS Warrior is at it's best it's still worse than a Prodigy.
>>65414651hell yeah
>>65414664>legitimately the blandest burgersIs FGB&F any good? Might try there next
Shot .45 today, that bitch be kickin
>>65414700What platform? It's noticeably softer/comfier coming out of a 2.5 lb 1911 than a 16 oz Glock
>>65414624depends. i got some really nice 7.62x39 soft point reloads but they were from my dads coworker.
>>65414673Huh. Kinda upset I sold mine now. I had the compact. Didn't really notice anything too special but I only shot it a few times
>>65414702Some ruger thing it was my buddy's
>>65414683The rest of the line up is steel which is weird, .45, 10mm, and .38 Super are steel framed guns.
>putting a stock and 20rd magazine in an olympic pistolkino
>>65414640>>65414654>>65414662I actually like FNS/509 series, but it never took off so I guess theyre letting it dieThe triggers actually clean up really well, but as soon as people and reviewers said the trigger sucks, no one would give it a look
>>65414738>people keep "inventing" .22lr machine pistols/SMGs with extremely high rates of fireTime is a flat circle.
>>65414694Five Guys is fucking great. It’s also retardedly expensive for what it is, so even though I greatly enjoy it, I haven’t gone there in like 7 or 8 years.
>>65414700>.45>kickinNo. You're just a bitch
>>65414772>retardedly expensive for what it isI'll keep that in mind, ty
>>65414121>Five seconds between roundsIt was everything in five seconds right?
>>65414235I know that genuine USPSA targets are not easily accessible to most people, but there are guides online on how to make your own out of a 18x18x16 moving box that you can buy from Home Depot for like $1.50. However, I can understand people not wanting to spend time doing arts & crafts shit, when clicking 'print' is so much easier. I think letting people choose between a USPSA target and a 8x11 paper at different distances is a good call. I am kind of conflicted on the lack of a time limit. While most people do not have a shot timer, one can easily use the timer on their phone and add an extra second to account for the time it takes to bring their hand up from the phone to grasp their handgun at low ready. I think not having a time limit also makes it kind of pointless to have three different sets on stage 1, to have a reload on stage 2, and to have a slide rack on stage 3.All that being said, every less barrier to entry that you have will certainly lead to higher engagement rates from the general.
>>65414390>>65414581I'm not gonna shit on the in-n-out cowboy for choking, because I have no way to know whether I'd do the same. How you handle yourself in high-stress, life-or-death situations is determined by things beyond our understanding. You either have the right stuff or you don't, and no amount of training will help you if you don't. The shitty part is, there's no way to know until it's time to act.
>>65414677The foam pellets are just the wad to keep the salt in and push the salt down the barrel. You could use paper but my dad found that foam pellets are much easier to use.
>>65414918
>>65414900Right stuff or not, your hands start shaking and it's really difficult to control. That's why you have to have training because if you don't know how to shoot then you're not going to be able to hit anything in that state. I guess eventually you just stop getting it when crazy shit happens but unless you're getting into fights constantly then you probably won't be able to train yourself out of that automatic response.
>>65414649>FN>posturing as gucci
>>65414938Yeah I'm not saying don't train at all, I'm just saying that even if you're a top-tier shooter, you might not have the presence of mind to position yourself correctly, draw at the right time, consider what's beyond your target etc. Defending yourself from a methhead with a knife at 20 feet is one thing, using your ccw to engage a guy armed with a rifle in a chaotic mess of a situation is totally different and requires a bunch of skills that can't really be trained.
>>65414962>Yeah I'm not saying don't train at allI didn't think you were. That wasn't meant to argue, more of an expansion on your point.
i picked up an aluminum match weight for my standard barrel length usp. what am i in for?
The Jaguar 22 is good. I just shot 1000 rounds of 22 today. Only complaints is the disassembly is kind of niggerish when it gets a little too dirty. Maybe 10 malfunctions total with mixed bag of random 22.
>>65414122Will I ever (s)need more tho ?
>>65415058>doesn't like glock ergos so much he needs hogue grips AND hockey tape>doesn't just buy a different fucking gun that works with his hands instead of against themIdk man seems like you already need more.
>>65415042the aluminum one is cheaper and half the weight IIRC but still balances very nicely. Without a match length barrel, or a threaded barrel, the gap right at the muzzle between the slide and weight is kind of atrocious and directs blast sideways and towards youyou should get a match length barrel when you can upgrade
>>65415060>no fun allowedWhy are you this grumpy anon ?
>>65415058>>Will I ever (s)need more tho ?Yeah. You (s)need a red dot, or you will be kilt in da streetz.
>>65414738Neat
>>65414888>I am kind of conflicted on the lack of a time limitMaybe making it an option, like the target size, would work?>untimed mode>timed modeOnly question would be to set the times. What would be a reasonable time limit for each stage?
>>65414143>>65414217My head cannon is USP9 in the EoE and the Rebuilds
>>65415089>998 KB, >2666x1777This is really going to bother me.
I am genuinely concerned about the level of fast food consumption itt. Urrbody gonna be as fat as Bort used to be
>>65415105probably right because a military organization would be issuing 9mm
>>65415115To be fair i'm one of the anons that had opinions and i've successfully dropped 50 lbs in the last 6 months. That's why my opinions are so strong, if I only get sloppa once a week it had better be the best possible sloppa
>>65414172I've wanted a Fatlus shirt for the longest time but I can't find one. I might just have to work out one of those iron-on kits or something.
>>65414660>Kimber made a 10mm ds warrior >But no 10mm 2k11 or 2k11 proYeah fuck you kimber, if I wanted a 10mm double stack with shitty fitment id buy a damn RIA
>>65415115Burt is already huge bro, don't even worry about him
>>65415115im not ashamed of my bodyplus i can conceal anything with some bigger pantshttps://files.catbox.moe/lvr0o1.jpg
>>65414122Just means we'll have to buy more PX4 pistols
>>65414390>>65414581>>65414900>>65414938He at least distracted the shooter.
>>65415115I don't have to eat it all the time to have an opinion on the taste. >>65415125Nice, good work. >>65415158I wish I could say the same. I guess I gave myself body dysmorphia because I still see that fat fuck when I look in the mirror but when I see pictures of myself I'm not fat at all.
>>65415124NERV issues both USPs and Glocks
>>65414648>>65414918>>65414921EXCELLENT. Flies are about to get their own Tunguska Event. Thank you
>>65415178but nobody died at Tunguska
>>65415178The flies went like the buffalo, my dad hunted them to extinction with his CO2 SAA
>>65414122my new gun was just glitching hardcore today for the first 100 rounds, what the fuck? at least once every clip, sometimes up to 2 or 3 times, there would be failures to feed or failures to fully return to battery, where i would either have to completely unclog a jam or at least push the slide all the way forward before i could fire the gun. what the hell was that? and before you say some dumb ass wrist shit, the gun was even glitching when i would rack the gun for reloads. the last 50 rounds i did fired totally flawlessly, but i dont know if the gun was fixed or if that was because i started mag dumping the rest of the ammo i had on me as fast as possible so i could leave the range.
>>65415068he has anti glock derangement syndrome, i've humiliated him here already multiple times in other threads. he belongs in a mental asylum.
Do you think those PPU hollow points will expand if I ladder a load up to ~1050-1100 fps muzzle velocity? The factory ammo chronos sub-1k
Definitely put my PX4 through it's paces today. And a kindly old man gave me his .357 Mag brass
>>65414143I think both items in this image could send you to prison here in Ausfailure kek.
>>65415304idk just shoot them someplace that hurts.
>>65415305How does the PX4 feel? I got a 92GTS Centurion for the sex and the great $778 post-tax deal I got
I would never trust someone who owns a Canik handgun
>>65415174I think they just wanted visual variation instead of everyone having the same firearm. Gendo has a CV-75. Ritsuko has a soviet revolver. JSDF have hipowers. Others Uzis. It's all plausible, but there appears to be no standardization. https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/The_End_of_Evangelion#Pistols
>>65415275Probably metal on metal rubbing that just needs to wear in. Sounds like it was slowing the slide down too much
>>65415319Trust no bitch.*snaps fingers and sashays away
>>65415182I bet some flies did.>>65415187based
>>65415328Don't feed the troons, anons.
>>65415310The PX4 (Storm Compact Carry 2 G) is a darling of /hg/ for a reason. Super light, shoots like a fullsize thanks to the rotating barrel, DA/SA lets you carry with literally no fear of it going off.It's basically like a p2000 that shoots like a full-size USP (with a better trigger lmao)
>>65415275I feel like I have seen this fucking image 100000 times on several threads here
>>65415328thanks, ill try to keep firing it until it stops having problems. >>65415334then don't expect any further replies, faggot. fuck you.
>>65415347because some dumb ass saves every photo i post of a weapon and then spams them while embarrassing himself constantly, he got exposed on /pol/ by the user IDs.
>>65414888>genuine USPSA targets are not easily accessible to most peopleniggahttps://nationaltarget.com/product-category/official-idpa-and-ipsc-targets/
>>65415358I've seen those images in a faggot troon thread while doing a reverse image search. You're a faggot.
>>65415339>better triggerReset on my PX4 is stupid long
>>65415310The PX4 is the final iteration in Beretta's attempt to modernize the 92. It was apparent in the 90s that the 92/96 was not beefy enough for .40 S&W and that the Military service guns were getting beat up. Beretta attempted some stuff with the Brigadier line which the heavier duty slide is reinforced and the slower slide velocity might mitigate recoil. But as the Border Patrol found out that it wasn't enough; BP Beretta 96 Brigadiers were cracking their frames in 10-15k rounds, but the BP were shooting super hot 155 gr .40 S&W loads. With the Beretta Cougar, Beretta tried a rotating barrel system, like a rotating bolt in a rifle, to mitigate the recoil of .40 S&W. The cougar was very similar to a 92, aluminum framed, shares some parts. While it did see some adoption, it was losing to polymer striker fired guns. Beretta then converted their Cougar design to a polymer gun. The PX4 is that gun. It came in Full size, Compact, and Subcompact, with the Full and Compact using the rotating bolt. The Subcompact is almost an entirely different gun but does share some parts, it's purpose was to be a smaller compact gun as a police back up weapon that shares magazines with the fullsize. It uses a innovative for it's time, removable trigger cassette, so the user could theoretically change between DAO, DA/SA easily and also allowed the guns to be repaired super easily with cassettes removed and replaced. Kind of like the new modular FCU systems that guns use but Beretta did not have the foresight to make the cassette the serialized component, it was more of an ease of unit armorer addition.>>65415371Get the LTT Trigger bar and it doesn't seem any longer compared to a stock 92. What I have seen is that some people have guns with ALOT of overtravel which contributes to that reset distance.
>>65415371
>>65415275Well, is your new gun just new to you or is it brand new out of the box? Seems like it could be a couple of things, right? 1) If it was brand new, maybe yeah it needs a couple hundred rounds to break in a bit or 2) if it was used you may have unfortunately inherited someone else's problem. I've got large hands and sometimes I can get in the way of the gun's mechanics, right? So like I can cause some of the malfunctions. It honestly sounds to me like you could have been doing that, but I'm making that assessment only because you said you fired off the last 50 without failure.
>>65415384
>>65415380Forgot to mention, the rotating barrel really does cut down recoil. I don't really notice it that much on the 9mm fullsize but the .40 S&W fullsize and 9mm compacts it's very soft shooting. I used to think that this video shows off good shooting but I can see my grip breaking down towards the end, but this is without any grip tape or grip enhancement. It's cringe. I'm shooting 9mm ammo that's loaded to 39k PSI, 115gr going 1300 FPS, quite hot ammo.
>>65415365>i was browsing archived fag threads in my spare time and saw your photo>that proves it was you posting itno, this is how you expose people for posting your firearms, faggot. keep coping bitch.
>>65415064they just had to put this gap down there for some reason
>>65415386it was completely unfired and i also swapped the slide out with a brand new optics cut one as well. i could have sworn it was lubricated well enough though, and i also heard p22*s were supposed to have 'legendary reliability', can't believe it glitched fresh out of the box like that.
>>65415400well duh. you're supposed to use a match length barrel
>>65415380How do you feel about the Beretta 9000
>>65415396>this faggot ass nigger doesn't know about googlelol lmao
>>65415411don't have one, I only have Beretta 92s, PX4s, and a 1301. I ought to collect more but I am not burt
>>65415384Damn that looks way better
>>65415412im not interested in hearing about google either so shut the fuck up about it bitch. NOW!!!!
>>65415387the LTT bar is pure sex. its actually unreal how minimal the reset is
>>65415425Beretta prices have risen but in the 2020-23 they were really a hidden gem and made /hg/ basically a beretta general. With just 80 dollars (trigger bar and a hammer spring) any 92 could have that trigger.
>>65415425the problem is it looks too hard to swap those parts out on the gun. i hate fucking around with springs and little pins and shit.
>>65415435yeah its not really a beginner install because it could require filing of the bar itself or one of the hammer hooks in order for it to function reliably there are definitely springs that can go flying if you dont know what youre doing when taking apart a beretta but you should just watch some youtube videos
>>65415432are there hammer springs weights lighter than the D spring that are as reliable?
>>65415404Don't discount it yet. I can totally relate to where you're at right now. When I picked up my steel frame pdp I was on cloud nine until i took it to the range and it proceeded to fail out about 10 times in the first box of 50 i put through it - in very similar ways to what you described with your sig. I made sure to fully strip and lubricate it when I got it home. Next range trip I was highly conscious of my hand placement to ensure I wasn't inducing failure. And... I had a few more ftf. But I pushed about 300 rounds through it on that second trip. That was several thousand rounds ago now and I haven't had another failure from that pistol. Hopefully you will have a similar experience and your sig will hum after a little break in
>>65415449LTT recommends 13# or heavier for confident reliability, I thinkI run a 12# with a lighter firing pin spring and it strikes primers fine, no problems in a few hundreds rounds so far
>>65415449You need to be using one of the skeleton hammers for a higher striking velocity, but down to 13 was considered reliable, but I stick with 14 pounds. Langdon's new optimized hammer he says has the most striking force.Guns differ, some people say 12 is fine. But they could have THAT gun that is micrometers different and hits that just a little bit harder. Or they only use ammo with soft primers. Stick with 14 and actually train with your gun to catch it if is one of those guns that doesn't hit hard enough.
>>65415458Oh right I forgot the hammer influences it too. I run a Match Hammer with the 12#
>>65415411the slide serrations are annoying to grip
>>65415465>>65415475oh so the skeleton hammer isnt just for aesthetics? shiet
>>65415339I considered one but got quoted $850 pre-tax, so my decision was a no-brainer. This is the hottest gun I own
So I always used to think I hated paddle mag releases, but I just hate tiny ones, this giant one on the P99 is perfection, even easier than a button.
>>65415479Yeah, the Match Hammer supposedly helps you go like one pound lower with the hammer spring reliably and also reduces pre-travelThe newer LTT OP Hammer is supposed to strike even better than the Match but doesnt reduce pre-travel as much
>>65415453i almost got one of those pdps but i just didn't know if i could deal with that mid-slide scalloping. if i get another non glock striker handgun it's going to either be the pdp compact or the vp9k though.
>>65415358Nobody saves those images. It's one pathetic troll.
>>65415510Even if it were true, you can’t tell them apart since how annoying and gay (potentially trans) they are
>got a flux raider today>guy used an xcarry legion for it and included the grip>it feels surprisingly good and I wanna throw the fcu and slide back in to try it out but don't wanna fuck around with no p320Why does this gun have to be such a disaster
>>65415380>some people have guns with ALOT of overtravelBefore I got the OPTB, my gun had that. But intermittently. Randomly it would go from super long reset to short OPTB type reset, as if the firing pin block lifter was getting skipped some of the time. I spoke to Ernest about it, he said he's heard that before but didn't have a solution. OPTB gave it a super short reset all the time, so it must have been the trigger bar, or lifter arm.>>65415411Butting my fat head in here cause I don't think many have them; it pretty much sucks. It's rather huge, rather fat, trigger sucks, has a really uncomfterble grip (imagine holding an AK mag), safety/decocker is upside down and the fulcrum is in the MIDDLE of the lever not the end, so it's very hard to actuate, sights are tiny, and a very common issue is the rubber overmold on the grip dries up and cracks offBut it still looks radOh did I mention the trigger sucks?
>>65415364and just how many people do you think are going to drop $35 for a 25 pack or $48 for a 100 pack of targets for the goofy little internet challenge?
>>65415543Also it has a unique lockup. Where most Browning/Sig type guns use the top of the chamber as a locking point, the Over 9000 wanted to have that open top 92 language, so they moved the locking surfaces under the barrel. It's still tilting, but with wings!
>>65415544NTA, but you can use the targets for other things. Like as curtains, wrapping paper, or as targets for shooting practice.
>>65415544If USPSA or IDPA silhouettes aren't in your target rotation already, you're doing handguns wrong.
>>65415404>>65415453its funny how the 320 FCU system has virtually no malfunctions and its just a little box dropped into whatever bigger box you want. Army(ies) knows what they're doing not picking some finicky steel frame larp guns
>>65415487I always tell people to try the extended one for the usp but I've never heard back from anyone so idk if they liked it.
>>65415615Fuck I wanted to get one last post in. Five minutes late at most.
>>65415543>>65415548Informative and entertaining as usual, thanks pal!
@burt LOL how predictable https://www.koin.com/news/politics/rise-demand-firearm-oregon-measure-114/amp/
>>65415587I always saw that as a recommended upgrade and didn't see why it would help, now I do. What is the best one for a USP 45? I see HKparts has one but I barely trust them, most people seem to recommend the HK45 one.
>kimber releases DS warrior>couple of months later Staccato fucking diesSo that's all it took
>>65415708what happened to staccato
>>65414834>everything in five secondsYep, from the first round to the last– Saldinas had five seconds before the perpetrator returned fire. I'll attempt to hit the AB corridor at 50 yards for the challenge then spend the rest of the range trip target focusing at 15 or 10 yards.>>65415396He put Averi in your photo after stealing it?>>65415627Way she goes, anon. I'm sure your post would have been very entertaining.
>>65415709Two big dramas at the same time. One is them suddenly dropping a lot of their authorized dealers with one claiming that staccato won't do warranty work for their stock anymore, and another drama is them suddenly laying off workers with people saying the company is burning from the inside due to CEO mismanagement
>>65415709>>65415734Oh.>"Texas-based Staccato, the double-stack 1911 gunmaker formerly known as STI, decided that it can do with fewer dealers.>In a letter that can best be described as blunt, Staccato informed about 200 retailers that “you will no longer be an authorized Staccato dealer effective immediately.”>The company said the move was “part of a broader initiative to reduce the size of our dealer network so we can provide greater support and resources to a smaller group of partners,” and was not “a reflection of your organization’s performance or the value of our business relationship.”>The sentiment of the “it’s not you, it’s me” Dear John letter doesn’t really feel genuine, particularly when the company informed dealers that they had “cancelled all your existing backorders” and “will not be shipping any (in-process) orders.”>Just in case dealers were thinking there might be a chance of getting back together, Staccato asked for the ring back, telling the now ex-dealers “all open invoices shall be paid within (15) days of termination/expiration.”>Since they were moving out, Staccato also decided they wanted the television, the record collection, and the dog. Dealers were instructed to “please remove all Staccato branding, logos, and any references identifying your business as an authorized Staccato dealer from your storefront, website, and online listings.”>The “please” was an especially nice touch.>They closed the letter with a heartfelt, “We sincerely appreciate your partnership and support of the Staccato brand, and we thank you for your business.”oh. this is like dropping a bucket of hot shit on your dealers and customers.no wonder Nighthawk made this post: >>65414385Which i can personally attest that they do honor their warranty for used guns and I have sent guns back multiple times (4/4 so all of my Nighthawks made a pilgrimage back home)
>>65415742Or: >Eh, I’m not a huge fan of Staccato in the first place, since the changeover from STI it’s been a downhill slope with their QC, but Shooters Choice has been known as MAP violators and that very well could be the reason behind that. I’ve seen plenty of distributors and dealers get cut exactly like that for violating MTP/MAPinteresting opinion that this guy thinks their QC has gotten WORSE from their STI days. But if dealers were violating MAP which hurts other dealers then them getting this brutal treatment makes sense.
>>65415742>$199 annual subscription warranty
>>65415304Is that an 82 or an 83? Love my little cz Makarov.
>>6541576982. 9x18, it's why I asked about the garbage PPU bullets. They suck, but also chrono at a pathetic ~925 fps from factory loads
walked to the gas station again. Nobody tried me... AGAIN. what's the point of concealed carry if I can't shoot black people?
>>65415742What is causing this sudden drastic action? This and the layoffs drama too? Did stac ato get some advanced warning that glock is making a 2011 or something?
>>65415781Fuck off FBI
>>65415784If I had to guess it's part of their strategy to go hard into the Duty/military role and away from the competition side of things they grew from.>>65415745What does MTP/MAP stand for?
Got a friend deal on a Glock 47 and couldn't say no. Did a polish job on it and swapped in a minus connector. About as far as I ever go on modifying internals as I'm super paranoid about messing with shit too much I wanna be able to trust my life to all my guns and not relegate them to range toy status. Recently though I've been wanting a try out a flat trigger shoe (just shoe itself not a full kit) just to feel what people are talking about and oh man it seems like there literally isn't a single aftermarket flat shoe that doesn't have multiple posts talking about shit just breaking/snapping/pins walking out etc. Why is this seemingly impossible for them to get right? Especially charging like $80-200 for this shit
>>65415820According to Google>A MAP violator is a retailer or online seller that advertises a product below the Minimum Advertised Price (MAP) set by the manufacturer.Basically they were taking new guns and going below what staccato said they could to out compete other licensed dealers
>>65415820I think it’s like WAP for pedos.
>>65415823Idk dude, I've put thousands of rounds through Apex trigger shoes and haven't experienced anything remotely like that. I don't even know how that part of the shoe gets mechanically stressed. Maybe it's just a slimline thing (or a faggot redditor with purple cerakote and steel mag release for S15 mags like the one you have pictured). Don't get an overwatch like you have pictured, they're super light and vague.
>>65415304worth a shot. from what I've seen in various expansion tests, PPU jhps always have terrible expansion, regardless of the caliber. they always have much lower average velocities than everything else that they're tested against too, so being chronically under-loaded may very well be their issue. then again, in the lucky gunner 9x18 test, Hornady 95gr ftx had reliable expansion in ballistic gel, and they only had an average velocity of 953fps. so it's also possible that PPU just has dogshit serbian monkey brained projectile designs that won't expand no matter how fast they're flying.
>>65415781Oh shit based bro! What gas station and where? A lot of it depends on your palm color, could you post your palms without any blurring? Oh also any tattoos you have
>>65415854The projectiles are visibly dogshit serbian monkey brained designs. The only thing to test is whether an 18 lb Wolff spring and a reloading press will fix the issue
>>65415725no, he stole a photo from that guy's rifle too. and the middle image with the rifle at someone's feet was stolen from a third person as well. he's just pretending to own everybody's weapons.
>>65415778Honestly, why not scrap the idea of a good 9mm mak HP and get yourself an 83 instead? .380 is seeing a bit of a Renaissance right now and good .380 loads are easy to find.
>>65415778Also word of advice: be careful with surplus ammo. This happened to me with the cheap MFS surplus when I tried to shoot last months tombstone qualifier.
>>65415909The short answer is I have a 380. The long answer was I only got the 82 because it was a dirt cheap steel DASA and I want to use my reloading press
>>65415914Thanks. Not buying tins now
>>65415918Here's a better reference. The mesko stuff was fine, a little dirty but nothing too bad. This MFS stuff is everywhere and I had maybe four or five case ruptures from a single box. I still have ten boxes I need to do something with. Probably just shoot it all and never buy it again.
>>65415933I slammed some Ramshot Silhouette numbers into GRT and got 1080 with 4k psi to spare. I'm gonna ladder up from a little below that and see what an actual chrono says
I cook healthy meals at home. If I eat out its General Tso chicken. $12.30 including tip.
It happened again. I was doordashing and went to hit my vape, but I accidentally picked up my Glock (which has no safety)I put the barrel into my mouth and pulled the trigger, blowing my brains out and killing myself.
>>65415942I usually get that with fried rice and an eggroll
>>65415938The cool thing with the MFS ammo was they actually sintered steel for the bullet so it's extremely light for load, only 71 grains. They did this because they weren't sure if normal Soviet 9x18 Mak would run reliably in the 82's polygonally rifled barrel. I don't know how reloading works, but it might actually be worth it to buy a couple boxes and cannibalize the projectiles for your cartridges if velocity is the name of the game
>>65415945get well soon
Got myself pre 70 series .38 Super 1911. Euro here, so don't call me a spic
>>65416014Cool shit Anon. I think the .38 super cartridge is neat, and I'm interested in at some point picking up a tanfoglio in the caliber.
Would you let your wife shoot .45? Real .45 not a USP that's actually nice to shoot, I mean a hunk of blowback shit
>>65415945Not possible with 3 safeties
>>65415823I've tried Apex and Timney only to go back to the stock trigger with Ghost rocket connecter. Some of that is personal preference, but I think you should stop there.
Decided to drop my USPc for edc and go out and buy a gen 6 Glock 45 instead. Gonna put an rmr and x300 on it. It’s over.
>>65416356>RMRngmi, should have opted for an SRO
>>65415042A nicer-shooting USP than stock. I’m a big fan of the steel but I can also understand not wanting to shell out $350 for a block. I’m really happy with mine, I think it looks cool
>>65416356Are you going to sell it?
>>65416440any issues running a standard barrel length?
>>65415742TFW I was about to buy a Staccato and have been renting some of them to figure out which one ;__;
>>65416014>don't call me a spicBeaner
>>65416514I’ll pop you with my trenta ocho, pendejo
>>65416440>but I can also understand not wanting to shell out $350 for a blockI was super interested in the Blackbeard Compensator for my 92 until I saw it's like $700. That's more than the damn gun
I'm just so full
>>65416326My nigga. Wish I had that version instead of the ones with the netflix promo on the front.
>>65416502I fondled a VKTR 2011 at the store recently and if I had that money to spend on a single gun, I would absolutely get that over a Staccato.>>65416622Even when the film or show is good, those covers always look cheap to me. At least your gun is nicer.
>>65416643>4000 dollars1500 dollars more expensive than the staccato I was gonna get. Hell, a guy is (maybe it sold) selling a C2 at my LGS for 2300 with a shitty holosun. These 1911s and 2011s are too expensive.
>>65416501Other than the weight getting really dirty at the front of the barrel and some extra soot to clean, not really. I still plan on buying a match weight length barrel, apparently Jarvis has separate barrel lengths for the actual Match model and the knock off match weight
>>65416014Don't worry anon, the 38 super was made by white people for white people. Awesome colt.
>>65416014I have a colt in .38 acp which is kind of like .38 super
>>65416705>.38 acp which is kind of like .38 superExcept no
>>65416709how is it not kinda like it
>>65416502If you buy from staccato nothing should change, I’ll have to see what is actually going on but these dealers must have been doing something bad for Staccato to go scorched earth on them
>>65416709aight u gotta be like some kind of ass to not acknowledge the blatant similarity between the two
>>65416739>Camry vs CivicBut they both cars?!?! (Söyface)
>>65416660>2011s are too expensive Well, yeah
>>65416779They shouldn't be !
>2011 brands that I, an intelligent man, would consider buying at their price point:BUL, MPA, AtlasTHAT’S IT
I wonder if the Cuckcato HD cels panic bought any Mec-Gar mags>>65415945Did you died?>>65415895>stole a photo from that guy's rifle tooOh, I thought he edited the photo because you described him as a furry.>pretending to own everybody's weaponsSounds like a real POS!
Hopefully things get worse and I can pick up a Staccato for cheap
>>65415945Chat, is this real?
>>65416899Must have been 9mm
>>65416882fired 2 of my glocks from 25 yards yesterday, emptied 2 clips and hit nothing but dirt. i dont know why i suck so bad with my glocks. I'm hoping it was just because my hair was in my eyes and I didn't have a hat on.
>glocks have built-in tranime inhibitorswtf I love big G now?
>>65417034You suck because you don't train. Dry fire every day for 5 minutes. Then go to the range.
>>65417034>clips
>>65416705.38 acp is rad as shit. I'm jelly anon.
>>65416882What happened with Staccato?
>>65417048I shoot just fine with mine, that other anon sucks ass.
pistol shooting is a low iq sport and i love it
>>65417396Ben has a video up. Algorithm finally put him in my home page.I'm interested in what PX4anon thinks about it.
>>65417048works just fine for me
>>65417048lol is that why sgt can't shoot?
>>65417430Ok but why panic buying?
>>65417459The poster who mentioned the panic buying is a retard troll. You can ignore him.
Im in the market for a long slide 1911. What are some good options?
>>65417490AMT nigga
>>65417513Theyre outa buisness aint they?
>>65417522even more of a reason to seek one out
>>65417490Vintage Baer, SA, Wilson. I don't believe anyone is currently making a new longslide, certainly not in 45. Lots of used options. You can build one with a caspian longslide and a gov frame though.
>All these Staccato videos coming out nowKek
>>65417034>hit nothing but dirtThat's called preignition push™>hair was in my eyesWhy not slick it back with hair gel like the pros?>>65417105Clipazine.>>65417448Hi Jambo / Fishy!
>>65417539I doubt it'll happen but I'd lmao my ass off if this completely burns staccato and the kimber/sig 2011s become the standard.Maybe it's just the name, or maybe it's the fanboys, but I irrationally want Staccato to fail.
>>65417561>sigew.>KimberPlease make a 3.6 inch 2k11.
>>65417548>Hi Jambo / Fishy!I'm not anyone of those faggots, stupid.
>>65417561It’s funny that all they needed to do was handle shit with their dealers in a less retarded way and no one would care lmao.
>>65417567I saw it too you did something yesterday or the day before that gave it awayYou are from ashcord and that is certain
>>65417614lol lmao this nigger is crazy
>>65417601Has there been any recent leadership changes at staccato? Board changes?
In the market for a slimline 9 after having a bodyguard 2.0 on my waist I realize having a thin gun is insanely more comfortable for me. So I've spent the last couple weeks researching what to get in my free time and it seems like the 43X/48 are literally the only reliable guns in this segment>P365Trigger return spring. Manual says 10k round replacement. Dozens if not hundreds of individuals reporting it snapping resulting in dead triggers at 500-3000 rounds. Also rust also sig. Sucks cause I actually like how they feel in hand and shoot especially the XL.>CC9 Failure to extracts issues and general feeding issues at an alarming rate for something from HK (USA.. probably why)>ShieldPins walking out. Feed ramp issues (literally the same I saw with my BG 2.0). Just general dogshit QC and customer service from modern smith. I'm willing to put up with it on the BG 2.0 cause its a very unique gun.>HellcatSpringfield.>FN ReflexTypical cheaper FN pistol issues FTF etc. etc.>CSX E-SeriesHonestly seems to be great I just HATE how it looks>Kimber CDS9This intrigued me the most cause everyone loved how it shoots and the grip but seems to have a lot of reliability issues with the gun itself and the mags.I guess I'm just going with a 43X. Kinda boring and I know I'll probably dislike the trigger but I want something I don't have to be anxious about.
>pistol is made in usayou know where it belongs
>>65415544SNAPbin moment
>>65417548>gelthat shit will make you go bald by the time you're 50. now what i experienced yesterday was that i was shooting like shit when i was firing slow, but then before i left i just started mag dumping the last of my bullets with my sig and i was actually ringing the steel a decent amount, even though my sight picture was trash compared to aimed shooting. what's with that? stance issues? i shoot my pistelles like shit compared to my shotgun or rifles.
>>65417676Sounds overly autistic. Just get the one you like the feel and shootyness of most, which sounds like it's the P365. I also agree, it's one of the softer shooting micro9s and despite the itty bitty grip it's still quite shootable. Are you one of these people with toxic sweat that has a rust problem? If not I don't see why the Sig would be a proberlm43X is fine too. Is that the one where Glock finally, in the face of aftermarket superiority, updated their magazine to nominal double stack capacity?
>>65417705>shit when i was firing slow, but then before i left i just started mag dumping>literally meI can now slow fire better after learning to turn my brain off while shooting. Just focus on the target.
Total newfag question but something I thought of, when pulling the trigger I seem to have better luck with the trigger more in my joint. Is that a bad thing and should I be practicing with getting steadier with finger tip or pad?
>>65417430Why is my opinion important, I don’t even own a staccato. I should, I want one for carry as a “mid tier” carry gun I can trust since it’s built for Heroes (me). I am immediately suspicious of the claims from the dealers who got kicked out. I haven’t finished Ben’s video but I’ve already made up my mind that Staccato can do no wrong and clearly the dealers weren’t selling to Heroes.
>>65417687Where do they belong?
>>65417732Consistency is key. Whatever you do, make sure it's consistentAlso, did NOT think that was a finger from the thumbnail
>>65417687m^m
>>65417676get an OG shield. the pin walking seems common with the shield plus only?
>>65417779>OG shieldHell yeah! My dad will love to hear that the plus has issues lol he loves his 1.0 9
>>65417732>better luck with the trigger more in my jointThat just means you have long fingers.>>65417687In an EDC photo except for P320's and P365's.>>65417705>actually ringing the steel a decent amount, even though my sight picture was trashThat's because you were shooting like you meant it (Stoeger calls this hatred in your heart) which is the key to predictive shooting where sight picture matters less. >>65417614A /k/ general reaching the bump limit in less than 24 business hours is a telltale sign of a raid which are usually coordinated on Discord.
>>65417676>>Hellcat>Springfield.QRD?
>>65417714Yeah if the spring thing was a non issue I'd be all over it but I just can't get over it. I'm someone who shoots the shit out of my carry pistols (Glock 17 & BG 2.0) to get attuned with them rather than most people who drop 500-1000 rounds to check for reliability then it lives in a holster. 3-5 range days + dry fire and I'm already in the danger zone for the spring just hurts my brain.
Funny how two dog shit shooters are giving each other tips
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I hate my life. I’m going to buy another gun.
>>65417826don't worry, they don't even shoot.
>>65417868>>65417868>>65417868>>65417868
>>65417761>Also, did NOT think that was a finger from the thumbnailLOL, I can see how you see that. Thank you, I'll keep consistency in mind as I keep practicing. I noticed when dry firing that there was less of a jolt when I switched to the joint.>>65417799>That just means you have long fingersMaybe, I used to play guitar but I've never thought of them as particularly long.
>>65417749because youre the 2011 nigga
>>65417799>A /k/ general reaching the bump limit in less than 24 business hours is a telltale sign of a raid which are usually coordinated on Discord.I'm back from a long break from 4chins, and I'm glad I took it. lol you are retardedly forever online. Are you a fed asset?
>>65417963He’s basically terminally online and cannot afford ammo to shoot so we all think he’s some sort of fat fuck living off welfare somewhere in Arizona. He actually did raid this general before with his arg troons so he’s being a hypocrite here.
>>65417914>fifth cartridge has a crimp and less copper to the jacketFor why?>Winchester T-SERIESOrdinally, 45 ACP struggles through barriers but if the expansion were limited a few tenths then it might perform better against automotive glass or composites while still have a final diameter wider than what you'd get with 9x19 JHP's. However, it would still be an inane choice for everyday carry outside of cuck states with magazine bans* like California*As of writing, SCOTUS has not struck them down as unconstitutional.>>65417915>never thought of them as particularly longIf you can reach the left ctrl key with your thumb and backspace key with your index finger then your hands are built for the piano!>>65417973So now I have Burt's lore.
>>65417819Or... you could just shoot it until or if that even breaks
>>65417805Nta, but Springfield is a trash company that makes trash firearms.
>>65418384What's your firsthand experience on which you base this extreme opinion that you expressed as though it's fact?
>>65417676I own the 365, Shield Plus, and 43x but personally I like the Glock 26 best for CC.Out of all three of them, I like the 43x the most, followed by the 365, and finally the Shield Plus.Personally I would just get a 365 and shell out some cash for the inevitable trigger return springI should look into doing that myself
>>65418388Shooting a hellcat, hellcat pro, kuna, echelon, and watching them all experience a litany of issues, including failure to feed, failure to eject, magazines refusing to seat, and a sight flying off. Trash guns from a trash company.
>>65418388>>65418431Oh, Prodigy too. That gun also sucked cocks.
>>65418388their m1a sucks
>>65418181Burt is living off the proceeds to a Big Mac related personal injury lawsuit. Not living off government subsidies like you are
>>65418456I'm not on Section 8 nor EBT.
>>65414508You could print the image, it just won't print as nice as the pdf. At standard 8x11 printer paper size, it probably won't make that much of a difference. But I posted the (hopefully) final version in the new thread.
>>65418431>>65418438You expect me to believe you have personally had problems with every single handgun they make, when you don't own a single one? Surely no one would go on the internet and tell lies.
>>65418860Yeah I got it and I'm going to print it out at work today. Thanks. If I get my car back today I might even be able to shoot it.
Is a Staccato P worth it?or should I just stick with a CZ Shadow 2
>>65420252Doesn't answer your question, but I'm 'researching' Kimber now for a 2k11. Though I do want a shorter one and they don't make one.
>>65420280let me know if you find a decent model with a threaded barrel
In 6 days, my last handgun purchase permit will expire, and I know exactly what gun I want, but I am putting off the purchase to buy stock instead. I know that buying the gun I want will bring me immediate satisfaction and joy, but I believe I will be better in the long run if I just keep sticking to my plan and buy stocks. That being said, life is short. Am I wrong for saying FUCK IT yolo and get that gun?
>>65420349depends, do you already own one or more pistols?if you do then you should invest or save if moneys tight
>>65420402Yeah man, I already own a Beretta M9, Ruger MkIV, Tisas 1911, and a Glock 19. So I already have every handgun I need, this purchase would purely be a want. It's a Ruger Blackhawk 45 convertible, and it's pure sex.
