God's Caliber EditionGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikOld: >>65474003
lol 9mm
"So, imagine a burger"
>>65480360>God's CaliberHell yeah!
is the sig p322 in 22lr gay?not sure if i should pick it or the ruger mark iv
I wanna trade my mac 9 for something that won't put me in open in local competitions. Should I sell it and get a 2k11 for $1500 or look for a trade in the local gun groups and classifieds for a gen 6 glock 45 + cash/straight trade for a coa version? A 1911 trigger can't be beat but I really like the ergos of the gen 6 glocks as someone who isn't usually a glock fan and the recoil impulse feels perfect on the 45 after putting several mags through my friend's that he recently got
>>65480389I've always found 22 pistols that mimic the shape of larger tacticool pistols kinda cringe. They should look like goofy target pistols because that's what they are.
>>65480389>is the sig p322 in 22lr gay?All tactical .22s are gayGet the Ruger
>>65480389>sigIf it's not a P22X, or P21X, its GAY and retarded.
>>65480405Same but also for rifles.
>>65480414due to misunderstanding your post and googling, i now discovered m&p 22x and might go for that instead
>>65480451Sort of but slightly different, all 22 rifles should have wood stocks and be bolt action.
>>65480465let me guess, youre against data centers and ai too
why dont they remove the rim from the .22lr to make it feed more reliably
if lisa is a boy then call me elton john
>>65480389Years ago every FB gun group I was apart of was posting various pics of their 322s that had been FUCKED up by Sig. I don't really go on FB anymore and nobody here is retarded enough to buy a sig 322 so I have no idea if that is a persistent issue but the 322 sure used to be a terrible idea. Why not consider the taurus tx22? It's got incredible ergos and is much more reliable than any other 22lr I know of. My buddy went 8k live rounds without cleaning just lubing it up and idk how many dry fires. He only recently cleaned it because the slide was so fucking disgusting feeling to rack from all the fouling. No reliability issues outside the usual 22lr dud rounds no gun can run>>65480414Real
$230 total if you count $200 worth of stuff from Beretta's website as subtracting from the price>>65480477Serious answer to meme question, because 22lr uses heeled bullets you'd be headspacing off the extractor instead of a rim or case head and rimfires need the rim to put priming compound in. What you're after is 25 ACP and it has existed for 120 years
>>65480459>due to misunderstanding your post and googling, i now discovered m&p 22x and might go for that insteadGet an M&P 45 instead
>>65480530Hey aren't you the guy with the Chris Chan amulet curse?>>65480394If it's for competition then the 2k11 is the way to go. As someone who hates glock but doesnt mind the gen 6 I personally think the g45 is a more versatile gun as you could carry it far easier than a 2k11 but GOD is that 2k11 nice enough to make me want to force it when I get one.
so uh, I bought a gun online last week and it's about to arrive to my FFL tomorrow afternoon finallyI just checked my bank account and while the transaction was previously showing for a few days as pending, it is now gone completely and it doesn't even show up on my active balance. Did I just get a gun for free ?
>>65480363>shaking hands and poor grip for the first couple shots>locks in and holds it steady for the two shots that incapacitates him>lol 9mmyoure a retarded illegal immigrant
Has anyone here put “competition” fiber iron sights on their Glock? Supposedly they’re smaller than regular, but I’m not sure I want to spend the cash just to try them out.
>>65480414>faggot doesn't know about the sig pro line
R8 and h8 my upgrades on my new (to me) Lightweight Operator
>>65480610>Holosun>UpgradeNice grips though
>discover obscure caliber and become interested >Only gun I can find is $3,000 and ugly as sinAnyone have any experience shooting .41AE? Is it just worse 10mm?
I don’t care about shooting my dick off.Is a police trade in p320 with 3 mags and a Romeo optic a great deal for 350-500$?
>.45 Based
>>65480595I don't think anyone here really spends money doing anything to their Glocks. Feels like I rarely seem them posted in comparison to Berettas, 1911/2011s, and HKs.
>>65480799>350Yes>500Probably, still yes. Check if its safe if you get it, there's a reason they're offloading it. Could be reactionary sig distrust or the gun presented an issue the past owner didn't like.
>>65480799AIM surplus has the full-size P320s for 299, id grab one of those instead since you're just gonna put it in a flux eventually and dont need an rmr cut
>US Chair Force inspected 120,000 P320s and found that it is 100% drop safehttps://www.airandspaceforces.com/air-force-releases-force-wide-m18-safety-inspection-results/APOLOGIZE and buy a NIG Goyer P320 right now.
>>65481034It already ND'd...
>>65480597>polymer frame>doesn't use P226/9 mags>no aftermarketTell me you're a noguns without saying it outloud.
>>65481048>polymer framefeature, not a bug>doesn't use P226/9 magsagreed, that was dumb>no aftermarketWhat is lacking that you can't get for it?I own an sp2022, you nigger.
>>65481051Pics or it didn't happen, nigger
>>65481058I've posted it before, believe me or don't.I'm still curious about what aftermarket parts you can't get for it - that you would specifically want.
>>65481071>I've posted it beforeYeah and I have a 18" cock
>>65481074What aftermarket parts?
>>65481034I thought the Air Force contract ones were actually fixed because the actual issue is a tolerance stacking problem which now seems to exist in dirt cheap copsurp 320s. The 320 design in its current state isn't a problem. Its going to take years though for Sig to rebuild its reputation on the 320 though, they may as well focus on making a duty size 365 with duty pistol parts lifespans.
>>65481078>Its going to take years though for Sig to rebuild its reputation on the 320 though, they may as well focus on making a duty size 365 with duty pistol parts lifespans.They're never living this down, the ceo is going to drag his feet unless he gets fired. I think they were shaving quality down to the bone just to squeeze that much more profit out of them. They ultimately answer to their parent company, and if the profit margins were that lucrative and irresistible, they'll try to weather the storm. Especially if they believe by just spreading some money around, they can redeem or at least "maintain" their reputation.They don't care if the gun fails on you when you need it most. They say to our face.
>>65481076Post gun first, but you don't have one lol
>>65480360I think the full size gen 6 glocks are ergonomically superior to every near peer (PDP, RXM, M2.0, VP9, CZ P10)
top 10 coolest handguns1. desert eagle 2. mark 233. 19114. colt python5. p2266. m9 beretta7. cz 758.luger9.five-seven10. glock
>>65481112>he's fleeing the interview!What aftermarket parts would you want?
>>65481126Only thing I disagree with is the deagle.
>>65480588Caliber memes are board culture, newfag.
>>65481126>M9 Beretta>CZ 75Would that also include derivatives?
>>65481187Oh.
>>65480588
>>65481204Repent.
>>65481204i think my favorite part of this webm is the fact that the security guard never gets shot, the only reason he's bleeding is that he absolutely annihilates his nose and teeth trying to climb over the divider in the bottom right
>>65481114Why is the beavertail so comically big?
>>65481193Like 92fs, 92x, etc?
>>65481206fake christian pls go
>>65481226Yes. Shorter slide/barrel versions like the 92s Centurion, Compact versions
>>65481218Slide bite and oversized beaver tail means you can be aggressive on getting up high on the gun without worry of slide biteBeaver tails are good. People anti beavertail should be shot.
>>65481232The Centurion is gay
CZ Legend anons do you have more pics of it with those wood grips? I haven't seen anyone else put on wood or even the rubber palmswells.Is the gun actually "grey" like a P10c" slide or black it looks different in every review.
>>65481126>he fell for the israeli media machineIRL it jams every other magazine, ejects into your face, and is terrible in the hand
>>65481246Does that go for the Glock 45 too?
>>65481114Every work of art has it's cheap copy I guess
>>65481254Seem like you have girl wrists and don’t know how to hold a gun correctly, mine works fine in all calibers.
>>65481291Firstly I have manly masculine wrists and am very strong
>>65481304I believe him, also it's huge
>>65481114imo everything that's supposed to make them better (trigger guard undercut, thumb rest, beaver tail) makes them look like shit and un-glock-like
>>65481288>memefield retard gun named after a faggot maneuver
>>65481317>so good that glock copied it bar for bar
>>65481316Dudes have been dremeling the undercut into their Glocks for decades. The undercut is fine. The thumb rest is big gay though and I'm not a fan of the texture. I thought the Gen 4/5 texture was a really good medium between easy to CC and providing some grip. It actually gave you grip unlike previous gens but it didn't tear your shit up like S&W sandpaper shit.
>>65481320>S&W sandpaper shitAIEEE my fucking hands on my 10mm 2.0. What were they thinking? Was it for gloves?
>>65481313Thank you for the vouch on my wrists
>>65481323>>65481320>Was it for gloves?texturing like that helps in the event that you're shooting your gun wet with shit all over your handsthe problem is that the average person is generally not going to shoot with shit all over their hands in a soaking wet environment unless you've got hyperhidrosis or somethingthe only guns I've ever had a problem with gripping are the HK45C because it has no grip texture at all, and the MK23 when I had to rack it after dunking it in water at a matchit an also be almost totally obviated with simple contouring of the lower grip that gives your pinky a ledge
>>65481316>muh looksTell everyone your noguns without telling everyone your noguns.
>>65481238People anti beavertail should fire 500 consecutive rounds through a Browning Hi Power MKI clone
>>65481353Aesthetics are very important to gun ownership. I refuse to own unaesthetic guns.
>>65480760It's an interesting caliber, someone on gunbroker has had two "conversion kits" (barrel, spring, mag) for a browning high power and a Jericho 941 for years. The problem is no one even makes brass for it anymore if I remember. But in terms of ballistics it's basically the same as 40 s&w.
>>65481364That’s the second kind of cool.
Worth getting a holster even if I can't CC due to being in a cucked state?
>>65481360>People anti beavertail should fire 500 consecutive rounds through a Browning Hi Power MKI cloneI've fired thousands of rounds through previous gen Glocks, sometimes more than a thousand in a single range trip, and never had any issue. Why try to fix what isn't broken?
>>65481360beavertails are like big tits, they have to suit the platformbig tits on a thick venusian woman trends towards perfection big tits on a southern methhead with a flat ass and posterior pelvic tilt is just kind of gross
>>65481364You don't own *any* guns though
>>65480799Yeah if you have need of full size strikerslop. P320s are alright, but why? Not sure why one would pick one in a vaccuum. There are other strikers you can get under $350, some of them new and none with controversy, though not with an optic unless you put on a ebay swampfox or a take-off Crimson Trace or something and let's face it, you would never choose a Romeo1 on your own
>>65481288>'ick on 'ech
>>65481385Big tits on a fat chick are like days off when you're unemployed; they're nothing special as they're to be expected>>65481371Of course. It's easier to carry around, you can still practice dryfire, and you build up sick-looking wear over time
>>65481364>I refuse to own unaesthetic gunsThat's the reason I don't have any Glocks. Boring design for YNs and cop wannabes
>>65481390That's beautiful Burt, does it fire? Can it be converted to fire??
>>65481288Yes, the Shitfield Shitchelon is a cheap copy of a Glock, glad you noticed.
>>65481374Beavertails are a carryover from 1911 shooters who like to ride the thumb safety to get a higher grip on the gun. You can't really do that on a Glock so idk what the beavertail is for either. It's probably one of those things like the squared off textured trigger guard that's on literally every modern pistol despite the fact that gripping the trigger guard with the off-hand index finger was a trend in like the 80's that nobody does today.
>>65480588its ok, if you cant handle 45 9mm is perfectly acceptable. most women and faggots cant
9mm is enough
>>65481404>You can't really do that on a Glock so idk what the beavertail is for either.If you just google "glock slide bite" you can find hundreds of people complaining about this issue. "But those people must have bad form or don't train" in the t-rex arms video on micro 9 comparisons a couple years ago all three of the guys complained of the g43x slide bite drawing blood on them, and that was unique to the glock after 2k rounds through all 6 pistols. Good for you if your hands fit prior gen glocks so well you don't have that problem but that doesn't make it not a problem.I've hiked the frozen patagonias with vans on. The lack of ankle support never bothered me. I'm capable of understanding what ankle support is for and why the hikers I was passing wanted it.>>65481401>>65481390Fuck why did FN make the frame blue not not the backstraps? The royal blue would have been so neat with the artic camo slide
>>65481404I'm guessing Glock wanted to drop/rush Gen 6 after the Gen V fiasco and were desperate for ways to make it stand out. Sadly, it is standing out... as ugly as fuck
>>65481126what kinda ai list is this
>>65480760Ouch. New brass is 1.56 a piece at graffs…. Unless you like using a lathe to cut it piece by piece.. I like obscure calibers, and I like the idea of 41 ae… but doing obscure calibers in a revolver or single shot is a lot easier than in a pistol… your gonna want a fair bit of ammo and you’ll be eternally chasing casings wherever they get flung…. Not that it’s not doable, but know what your getting into….
>>65481428Glocks have always been ugly as fuck so who cares
>>65481204Spend your whole life surviving to die bleeding out in a revolving door. Bleak….
>>65481433Embrace it anon, you're the brass guy now. People will definitely respect you for it.
>>65481388Cope and seethe tranny >>65481396I actually like the aesthetic of the Glock, it's a simple and timeless design that goes well with almost any look
>>654814169mm is the average size!
>>65481426Yeah, I used to get slide bite too...when I first started shooting handguns 15 years ago. 92fs, P226, Glock 17, etc it didn't matter which gun it was, I would get bloody fingers. Now I mostly train with smaller guns and I get absolutely no problems. So, yeah, I'm gonna asses it as a skill issue.
>>65481323Idk man, it doesn’t feel that bad to me…. Have you considered shooting it till your palms aren’t bothered?
>>65481441That’s why I like revolvers…. Don’t have to chase brass.. just don’t throw it when you take it out of the cylinder…
>>65481452I shoot my glock instead.
>>65481449>asses it as a skill issue.>12k rounds>only one gun of 6 causes this issue>skill basedBen was right!
>>65481323Agreed with this anon >>65481452The grip texture is not an issue
>>65481323Work from home hands typed this post
>>65481442>still nogunz
>>65481471>Still a seething troon
>>65481473>hey guys check out my buddy's vp9
>>65481473Cock on Glock or it ain't real
>>65481468That's a nice 10mm
>>65481478Why are you troons always so angry? You know you can simply walk into a gun store, give them money, and they give you a gun? This is not an insurmountable task. It probably is if you've been admitted to the loony bin but for normal people it's not.
>>65481470It's mandated by management to wear gloves.
>>65481480My cock is very identifiable by its unique and giant veins, I might as well post my ID and social security number
>>65481492>Bullied into posting his vp9>Trans on the brainKEK found the sissy
>>65481500Don't worry kiddo I'd be angry too if my right to bear arms was involuntarily taken from me
>>65481492Why is your slide missing its left wing?
I like the way my Glock looks. I hate front slide serrations.
>>65481503No clue actually, I handle all my guns pretty rough so I'm assuming it fell off somewhere at the range or innawoods
>>65481511Did you take it off as a signaling thing?
Why does /hg/ always devolve into two spergs arguing about shit no one cares about?
>>65481500checkedknowing that this is the only way have to exert power over others warms me. your posts paint a picture of a truly trash garbage worthless, unlovable reject of a human and I thank you for doing the work to show me how pathetic you are. :)
>>65481514I'm assuming shit just popped off somewhere, I don't care enough to search for itAlso the RIGHT side is the gay side
>>65481517PB isn't around to lightning rod
>>65481514>being this obsessed with sucking cocks
>>65481517Because people can't not take the bait for some reason
Is the scuttlebutt about smith and wessons downfall true? The 386 night guard is perfect on paper, but i dont want to drop $1k+ on a new gun just for it to need to be sent back for fixing
>>65481523This also feels like signaling
>>65481525Even if it does have QC issues, every time I've dealt with Smith and Wesson customer service they've been great.
>>65481526did it work, are you signaled? it's cool, i'll let you suck me off if you wear black lipstick but don't tell anyone!
>>65481518Anonymous is always being such an asshole to people in /hg/ father figure and burt hang around a real meanie
>>65481517First time on the internet?
>PSA has the 320 flux on saleDo I? Was going to get the one without the optic mount since my 320 has a dot on it already...
>>65481524There is no baiting
>>65481520PPAnon?
>>65481535I'm not PP go away
Is a FN509 for $450 new an okay deal?
>>65481465Fair, I really only got my m&p so I’d have something with lighter recoil when I wanted a break from big revolver stuff..>>65481468Did you keep the factory spring in yours? I swapped mine out for a 22 lb and it seems to like the snappier stuff better
>>65481323Feels good in my hands, reminds me of the USP grip texture.
>>65481517Anarcho-tyrannical moderation. Get a 3 day ban for saying nigger in the wrong thread to the wrong guy who reports you to the wrong janny that thinks any usage is horrible, but if you're just an annoying sperg who says 1 or 2 sentences on topic for every paragraph of sperging and the jannies don't bother to deal with it. 4chan is equivalent to a gas station in a Blue City with the Jannies/Mods being the justice system.
>>65481554>Gas station in a blue cityYeah that tracksNeed to fill up my tank come to think of it. Thanks Anon
>>65481525>Is the scuttlebutt about smith and wessons downfall true?This is completely anecdotal but I'm interested in the new New Guard as well and the comments of every video on it are people reporting theirs or their buddy's had to be sent back
>>65481542It's an ok deal but I've seen $100 cheaper on gun.deals like two weeks ago. I absolutely adore mine, so much so I bought a second. QVO makes a great holster for it.If it's the compact model and you send me a receipt I'll mail you a 12 round mag for free if you email bluefnanon@proton.me
cheap LE-Trade p320 and a raider x on sale gives you one of the best PCCs for under 700 bucks.
>>65481565There's a reason why it's on sale and it's not because it's the "best" PCC.
>>65481554I feel this. STILL seething over a ban I got a year+ ago for saying The Word. How did redditors become jannies
>>65481563Oh okay maybe I'll shop around more! Thanks
>>65481565If only the chop top version was on sale. But I guess that modification just takes a minute to do yourself
>>65481568he said 'best pcc for under 700 bucks' not 'a good pcc'
>>65481568its on sale because its labor day and every website is having a sale. its one of the best PCCs because it has a trigger that doesn't suck (also an FRT), a long barrel for its size, a collapsible brace that isn't uncomfortable and doesn't weigh 7 pounds.
>>65481559Thats what I'm seeing as well. I might just take the risk. Like i said, it has all the specs i want, and their customer service is still well regarded.
Hey you fucks rooftop has od green usp .45 for $1150. I pasted it in the last thread and im not waiting around four fucking minutes to repaste it here
>>65480389Get a TX .22.
>>65481576Sig check cleared?
>>65481574it is, it just costs more.
>>65481584you will be pro-sig in a few years after your programming tells you its now too popular to hate sig, same with liking keltec.
>>65481576Okay, I hope it doesn't hit any vital organs when it goes off randomly in your bag.
>>65481586>You will like sigSorry Mr. Schwab I won't
>>65481586I only shit on sig because doing so makes people unreasonably upset. Behind the giggling I don't give a fuck about sig one way or another.
>>65481585Damn. I really want one but just bought another gun which I need to buy more shit for
>>65481589*cohen
>>65481545Yeah i have made zero changes to it. Stuck an onsight on it for a range trip and sheared the screws on the second mag and sent the dot flying about 20 behind the range so i haven't done shit else to it
>>65481577Well, if you have a good belt, might I recommend my personal preference...https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/ruger-gp100-wiley-clapp-3-vs-smith-wesson-386-night-guard
>>65481600nta but I got one a few weeks ago after wanting one for the past year or so and I love it even more than I expected especially after setting it up how I like. Might still get the forward optic mount and an SCRS but I'm perfectly happy with it as is right now. The new p320 frt looks like a lot of fun too but I'm gonna wait for someone to make a select fire one.All the buttons also make it the perfect fidget spinner to sate my tism when I'm bored sitting around.
>>65481615>Using a P320 as a fidget spinnerRIP your dick.
>>65481620nta but when was the last uncommanded discharge from a 320? I haven't seen any footage of some deputy blasting his leg in a small while.
>>65481578>Hey you fucks rooftop has od green usp .45 for $1150. I pasted it in the last thread and im not waiting around four fucking minutes to repaste it herenice I just want black ones to come back in stock
>>65481622>when was the last uncommanded discharge from a 320Probably 2 weeks ago. They're starting to dwindle because everyone is getting rid of those pieces of shit.
>>65481614I already have a 4" 7 shot gp100. If I get a 3 inch ruger it'll either be a sp101 or lcrx.
>>65481627>Yes, shit directly out of my ass for 300, Alex.
>>65481627>probablydude come on
>>65481628Honestly, I think my favorite revolver I ever carried was the SP101 Match Champion. You only get 5 shots but that 4" of barrel really feels great.
>>65481636Sorry man, there are so many reports about the P320 going off that I can't remember them all the time. You can always check out ben's timelines to get more information as he loves to report on it for the drama.
I have zero idea why anyone would buy the P320 when it's outclassed by almost every other striker-fired hand gun. It's a hipster gun for people that want to make their gun their personality"Yeah give me a Glock with a worse aftermarket, worse QC, worse trigger and worse barrel"I'd rather have a fucking G2C or APX than a fucking P320
>>65481645I believe the last sigcident report from him was a couple of months ago. He talked about Sean Strickland shitting on the p365 qc and sig in general a few weeks ago.
>>65480394A 2011 is going to put you in Limited Optics, which is a slightly faster division than CO. The difference in times is small, even at the highest level, but you should be aware that they're different divs. If you want more competition, go to a match or look up your club on Practiscore, and see what the biggest division is. Where I live, CO is about four times as popular as LO, so if you want the heat, you have to shoot CO.
>>65481659I saw Ben talking about an incident april 2026 at a shooting comp. a 320 x5 leigon
Which way, Western man?
Who else pairs their carry gat with their fit of the day? Once it cools down and I can wear comfy sweaters and jeans, I find the Glocks pair well with all black form fitting clothes and the vp9 pairs well with big wool sweaters
>>65481610Bummer about the screws. Mine came with a freebie green dot, that I found I didn’t like as much as irons. So took it off and it’s on a double barreled shotgun now for shots and goggles
>>65481670it's less about "pairing" and more about how much gun can i fit into my outfit. They're not cooperating like a steak and wine would be, they're being stuffed into one another.that said I love winter in the northeast. I shoulder carry a 50ae under my giant jacket.
>>65481571Looking like Locked and Loaded which had the cheapest price before jump from $319 to $659. How many mags does it come with? If it's a shop see if you can talk em down. I got em to knock $50 off of the price of my second one and it was already $349
>>65481677I too am in the northeast and size up for the fall and winter though I like to vibe my fit with my gat
>>65481680can you use the shovel to scoop ice cream? if so then yes I am very jealous.
>>65481666None. OR 1911 with half rail for me
>>65481685lel, whoops, I thought I won another E-tool, which is the shovelapparently this "multi-tool" is some bullshit armorer's bit driver thing
>>65480389I don't like them fwiw (nothing). They feel cheap (but unlike the TX22 they aren't) and have that weird "clunk" trigger of the P320 and P365. Also I know two people with them and BOTH slide stops don't work 80% of the time. There's like 3.6 microns of engagement with the slide and it doesn't matter how hard you hold the lever up it can't grab the slide. Not a deal breaker but it's gay.TX22 is still king imo. My S&W 22X is very picky about ammo and two guys I know have problems if they fully load mags so they both down-load to 18 rounds. Again not a deal breaker but gay. Also I HATE THE 22X trigger, it really feels like crap and the angle the trigger breaks is actually backwards which wants to push your finger off the trigger. TX22 feels very good, and Ruger Mark with Volquartsen feels amazing in comparisonIf you find a P322 cheap it'd be worth it. But not new imo>>65480529tbf that lead buildup is a thing on TX22s also. Not sure why it's only some guns but that's where I first heard of that ever happening. Taurus will replace the barrel for free if it does that or keyholes or has chattered rifling>>65481401Not yet :)It will be :):)))>>65481426Many such cases
>>65481440>shot by a revolver>spin around >die in a revolving doorGod's a fuckin crackup sometimes, man
DEAL ALARTDEAL ALARThttps://www.gunbroker.com/item/1199543985COLT ALL AMERIKKKAN 2000 ABOUT TO END AT $204 DON'T LET THIS ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY PASS YOU BYCUMS WITH BOXUNCOMMON POLISHED SLIDE VARIETYITS NOT MINE
>>65481702>ITS NOT MINEI would actually be MORE interested if that was the case because I'd know you took care of it
>>65481666Bro, I'm still waiting for what aftermarket parts you would want for the sp2022.
>>65481505The old pre-G4 Glonk mag releases are so shitty compared to the new ones that I can never go back
>>65481505>colorfillwaste
The wrong Browning pistol got modernizedThe Browning Hi-Power should be receiving all the upgrades possible, it is an absolute travesty one of the most innovative and prolific pistols gets completely forgotten in favor of >muh two World Wars
>>65481731The hi power did get modernized, it's called the CZ-75
>>65481720I'm just glad that Glock finally started catering to the only people who matter, the most powerful race on earth: southpaws.
>>65481674Surprised to say those screws just walked right back out using a fingernail. That wasn't the case when the screws sheared off the PSA dagger i have. Lesson learned about Osight, the dots are pretty good, the screws are potmetal trash.Luv me smif tenner. Sold my g29 and carry the smif innawoods now instead.You tried any aftermarket mags? I got a promag that is a total waste of money but one of the factory Smith mags i had was garbage as well
>>65481666top one will probably be nice to carry, bottom one is 3.5 libs loaded which will not be fun to carry.
>>65481734By broke ass faggot Czechs and not red blooded Americans or even purest Wallonian Belgians like it should have been
>>65481687It's a shame the half rail 1911s are getting less common, they look like shit with the full length railed dust covers.
>>65481740Fucking nice shooting, even if you are cursed
>>65481731It’s fucking gay and European 1911 trigger better1911 everything better Lick nuts
>>65481752Having built my own half rail 2011s I wish I went with full rail. It just feels better in the hand, it feels more aggressive, and it lines up perfectly with a Surefire X300 (the only weapon light).
Now that 2011s are getting cheaper and more accessible, what will be the next bleeding edge pistol trend?
for me, it's the FULL dustcover
>>65481761Unironically, PDWs.
>>65481760Full dust cover like this is cool>>65481764This is piss ugly tho
>>65481768>this one costs more so its not ugly
>>65481777>he can't see how the gay little notches ruin the aesthetic I'm sorry you're blind.
>>65481781i think the infinity looks better but i also dont think the accessory rail or the bevel are particularly hideous.
>>65481661Turns out I'm gay retarded and illiterate. I'm wanting to give IDPA a try since it's the closest and most convenient for me so I assumed it'd be the same as USPSA wrt comps/ports but it turns out CO in IDPA allows them. Double checked the rules and if it's integrated into the barrel that's fine. Might just stick with the Mac in the meantime then since it's also perfect for 3 gun where I like to do 2x4 which puts me in open rules anyway (or I might not because the 2k11 is sexy and I still want one)
Just got a g43 and it feels very nice to carry. I can wear this with anything just about and no more discomfort or having to readjust when you sit
>>65481759Browning never cared for the 1911 beyond meeting U.S trial specs; the Hi-Point was his passion project and a huge step forward for pistols overall>Double Stack in 1930s with 13 round capacity in early models>Iconic Browning tilting barrel action>9MMIt is the grandfather of all Wonder 9s and deserves to see modernization; more so than the 1911
Hi-Power* lmaoCome to think of it, I do need me a Glock 40 problem solva for the sake of it
Do the gen6s actually feel substantially different in the hand, or do they still feel more or less like, well, a Glock?t. a small girl hands-haver
>>65481812Maybe because COLT owned the patent for the 1911 after he split ways with them?
>>65481801Why didn't you get the 43x?
>>65481821COLT The company notorious for sitting on their asses with bleeding edge designs and....doing nothing with them after the first revisionThe same COLT now owned by faggot Czechs
>>65481812Browning died before getting past the initial prototype of the Hi-Power, during which he had to avoid many of his own patents. Saive integrated the expired patents later because they worked better than the workarounds. Browning did not, however, care for the .45 ACP. He thought that .38 Auto was fine and the ebbs and flows of .38 Super popularity (dimensionally identical and close to the original load that was reduced in power due to cracking frames) show that he was right.
>>65481820It's dimensionally the same but it's more ergaynomic because it's rounded like the penises your womanly hands are accustomed to holding and not like the standard Glock brick. According to Ben Stoeger the King of /k/, the block grip actually helps prevent twisting of the hand during rapid fire so the round grip isn't a straight upgrade.
>>65481820They feel like they're actually made for human hands and not brick layers. The palm swells, texturing and undercut are really nice and mitigate the grip angle issue I've always had with them
Is there anything different about the Gen 6 internally or is it all external?
>>65481821>COLT owned the patent for the 1911Colt owned that patent In the US, not in Europe. By the time WWII rolled around the patents were already expired. In Europe the 1911 only saw limited popularity and was quickly superspeed by more modern handguns. The Norwegians were the main producers and the Bongs bought some from the US, that's more or less the extent of the 1911s military service in Europe.Patents are (or at least were) funky that way. What's patent-protected intellectual property in one area may be free for the taking in another, hence the all the hundreds of Spanish mom&pop gun smithing etablissements with fewer than 10 employees cranking out blatant clones of popular foreign pistols in the first half of the 20th century, because Spanish patent law allowed it.Similar story with Browning's Auto-5 shotgun.Remington had the right to make it and sell it in the US, FN had the right to make it and sell it in Europe.Despite this, questionably legal clones were made by everyone from Winchester, to Franchi, to post-WWII Japanese industrial conglomerates.
>>65481825This is smaller
>>65481843European produced 1911s were made under license Spain are the niggers of Europe so they stole designs
>>65481831And Dieudonné Saive was of purest Wallonian Belgian stock, hailing from Wandre in Liège. While not the most /hg/ aligned firearms engineer, /brg/ owes him for a small part due his work on the FN-49 and the can of worms that opened
>>65481666every expensive 1911 has that mall ninja quality to it
>>65481848Not by much, not worth the downgrade for a slight decrease to width. What did you pay?
>>65481832The dicks I pull are girthier than any glock. Stop settling for small cocks.
>>65481825the 43x is too big to pocket carry. i dont know why people bother getting it when you have the 48x
>>65481842Gen 6 goes back to a single spring guide rod and I think has a revised extractor design
>>65481873Who's "we"?
Why are we pocket carrying strikers without a manual safety?>>65481879see >>65481864
>>65481820Anon you can go into any gun store in america and try one. But yes, as someone who hates the way glocks feel and shoot the gen 6 is MUCH better.
>>65481883Eh if the trigger guard is covered it's okay
>>65481898You're going to Plaxico Buress yourself.
>>65481850>European produced 1911s were made under licenseLOL, LMAO even!Historically speaking, the only major producer of 1911 pistols in Europe was Norway (a broke-ass backwater nation back then), and they didn't exactly pay full price for the technical data package and the legal right to produce them.FN owned those data packages, and the legal rights to European 1911 pistol production.Then WWI kicked off and the Belgians got immediately curb-stomped by the Krauts, who immediately seized control of FN's factory, management, and intellectual property.When the Norwegians bought the technical data package and the "legal" license to make their own 1911s, they bought these things from FN, but they didn't buy them from the Belgians.The Norwegians just handed a briefcase full of untraceable gold coins to the highest ranking kraut occupying FN's factory at the time.Thereby paying a fraction of FN's original asking price to what were effectively a bunch of armed robbers selling stolen property.While the m1911 was indeed an exceptional service pistol by the standard of the time, it's highly questionable if the Norwegians would have ever adopted it if they had to pay FN the full asking price for all the manufacturing specs and legal rights.The Norwegians basically just adopted the 1911 because they say the Belgians getting ass-raped by the krauts, and the Norwegians a shady opportunity to buy an expensive pistol they liked for a small fraction of the original asking price.
Grandpas inheritance 1984 series 80. First 45 added to my collection.
>>65481921Very nice
>>65481915I am spiritually Norwegian in terms of finance it appears>>65481921Giga based
>>65481905I pocket carry with a holster that covers the trigger guard
>>65481729NTA but I color fill all my pistolsEggsampleI just like how it looks
>>65481862330 including shipping and ffl transfer 280 was the auction price
>>65481958Not bad, but damn, fiddy bucks for a transfer.
>>6548196530 +20 shipping
>>65481745Not yet, debated updating the trigger since Galloway has one for under 30, but that’s just me wanting to dick around with it….
>>65481969Ah. Did it come with a box? Mags?
>>65481729Is it a form of signaling?
>>654819762 mags no boxI want to try the shield arms steel 8rd mags too which are supposed to be the stock size but +2
>>65481984Asking if it's a form of signaling IS a form of signaling.
>>65482019Fuck
>me when the only carry that feels good is the 226 xcarry legion and I'll have to post about it here when I buy
>>65482062How do you know it feels good if you haven't bought it and carried it?
>>65481210Are you sure? I mean that's a shit ton of blood but I haven't exactly had my nose take the full weight of a face plant while getting shot at.
>>65482086yeah watch it againit's like a slapstick fall, all of his weight goes straight to his face on tile, if you both break your nose and put your four front teeth through your lip, that shit can leak like crazy
>>65481210I never noticed that kek
>>65481695Honest to God I almost want to get a sig p322 just to see if I'd have these issues
>>65482090Yeah you're right he fucking slammed
>>65481204https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewufRwrayTI
>>65481820ergonomics are slightly better and the stippling is much more aggressive but its still just a glockid say the best comparison is imagine a gen 5 glock with a good laser stippling job and the trigger guard cut and thats the stock gen 6i think the trigger is the best improvement ergonomic/feel wise but it isnt like its a new gun, its just like a tricked out gen 5 but thats the new oem
>>65481883i israeli carry any gun i pocket carry.
>>65481654The P320 was the #1 gun used in competition for many years in USPSA. Probably would still be #1 if it weren't for retards shooting themselves, and the following memetics. The gun has won multiple national championships. Perhaps the only truly stock gun to do it. The X5 Legion specifically. Competition shooters tend to like CZs, hipsters on /k/ and plebbit like Berettas, tacticool nerds like Glocks, and tacticool nerds with money like HKs. And gun guys who like tinkering, gunsmithing, competing, etc like 2011s (also theres the retards who THINK owning a 2011 will make them good shooters).Right now the P320 is a gun that's literally for those who simply like it and can think for themselves. We can make jokes about them going off, but to this day not one single mechanical shred of evidence has come out showing how thats happening. Not the FBI study, not the military study, not independent researchers or lawyers... no one. Those who know, know it's because its a very unforgiving gun since it has no trigger blade safety that would prevent NDs if something went inside the trigger guard of a glock, but not the P320. For all intents and purposes, carrying a P320 is like carrying a 1911 with its manual safety and grip safety disengaged. Which is why I personally like it for USPSA, got me to M class having a light striker fired gun using the steel frame module. And GM is right around the corner for me.Very light trigger, super soft recoiling, and for those who want a "fix", they released trigger shoes with the Glock like trigger dingus. I hate liking the gun because I hate Sig as a company, but the P320 is actually fine.
what's a good handgun for my tiny ass hands?
It's so blatant that ShortShotTony browses /hg/He made a youtube short over the .38 vs 9mm argument we had
>>65481764Yeah except only when the frame is the same width as the slide. That looks like crap with the overhang that has to be minimized with a bevel, and the rail cut ain't helping eitherPick a lane, either tasteful greebles or BRICC, not both. Les Baer got it right in that regard
>>65481949Do you use nail polish or chalk or what? It looks great
>>65481764Full dust cover with no front slide serrations is a great look.
>>65482297The PDP-f is literally made for small hands with a shorter length of pull from the trigger to the back of the back strap and easier to manipulate slide for smaller and or weaker hands. The PDP is already a good option for most people but the PDP-f is literally designed in a lab by the best nationals winning womans shooter for people with small hands. Also cheaper than a glock 19 gen 6 atm.
>>65482364Tell him what the F stands for
>>65482364i'll check it out, thanks man.>>65482378i assume the f stands for female because of the whole made in a lab for women thing.
>>65482378He's a big boy he can figure it out. If it works it works.
>>65482378If a guy tells me he daily carries a pdp-f I'm going to assume he's signaling to me
>>65482405Top kek. All kidding aside, I am 5'8 manlet with short chubby gnome fingers and I shoot and carry full size pistols for competition and duty. Are we talking like 5'2 manletism here where people can't shoot a standard compact pistol?
>>65482378Fxpose people's insecurities
>>65482422I'm not sure what configuration some male would have to have to not be adequate for a full size "duty" pistol but I'd have to imagine it's few and far between. Probably not born a man either if you catch me
Henry's Holsters confirmed their Cipher holster for the Shadow 2 Compact fits the Carry (obvious, but wanted confirmation).Ordered today...shipped today! I'll see it Tuesday, September 8th if everything goes well with UPS.Fuck you Legacy Holsters and your 2 week lead time!
>>65482481Nice man! I love having stuff coming in the mail. Currently I'm waiting on two mags and a pair of grips that I'll show off when they get here.
I am retarded but in a gun without a firing pin block that isn't drop safe, what is the difference between dropping it on the ground and dropping the slide on the first round loaded? Wouldn't they have the same inertial effect?
>>65482508Firing pin spring. Dropping the slide doesn’t induce enough inertia to defeat the firing pin spring. CZs have ND/ADs (and a dead RSO) because CZ faggots use reduced power firing pin springs. Allegedly a guy shot off his toe since he drew his gun too fast and it hit his soft primers too.
>>65482203Based p320 enjoyer. Slurping the deals. Gay competition stuff aside You forgot to mention how it has the best aftermarket ever. 10/10.
>>65482388Locked and Loaded has the standard 4" for $543.81 if you're poking around. They make a pro trigger one that folks have said are real nice but I haven't been able to get my hands on one to give personal testimony
>>65482488I'll need to buy myself more of these Mec-Gar CZ75 Compact mags with the blue follower. Whatever anti friction coating they use is the tits, certainly an upgrade over the CZ provided mags.
>>65481127Everything. Mags, frames, barrels
>>65482342Thanks anon, after much experimentation I figured this enamel paint applied via tiny brushes is best, followed by wiping the area lightly with a nail polish remover pad (this removes residue on the slide but not the colored letters). I have done it to pretty much all of my pistols and it holds up extremely well and I beat the shit out of my guns.
>>65482532thanks for the info, will keep in mind.
>Firing Pin Safety>Only one "Yes"Lmao
>>65482621
>>65482633
i own three pistols now, how should i store them if i want to be autistic and neat about it? are multi slot pistol cases worth it?
>>65482637I have a multi slot pistol range bag that accommodates three handgun cases in it + ton of pockets for other gearI keep my handguns in it, with case
do you guys own safes for your guns or nah? if you only have a few handguns like anon above would you get a safe or just go with cases or have that shit scattered throughout your place?
>>65482643Safes make sense if there are others in the place with you that you'd like to keep out of reach of your guns. Say home with children for example. Also good for protection in case of a fire, depending on the safeOther than that...mine are just strewn about the place
>>65482643I have pelican cases that are cable locked through one set of hasps to a structural beam for shit in storage that’s not either being carried or run at a match but other than that, noIf I had kids I’d probably just yank the firing pins on non home defense stuff
>>65482662Yanking the firing pins out... You already know what I'm going to ask
>>65482662>Yanking firing pins outAbsolutely retarded in any fucking circumstance beyond maintenance or changing them outHoly fuck
>>65482698It’s a single cotter pin you fucking doofus
>>65482700It's the principle of the matter you niggerWhich is RETARDED
>>65482662Problem is that when your six year old decides to take your gun into school to show his friends, the school isn’t going to care that you “disabled it”. Store them safely….
>>65482770The point is if I want to pack my match bag, I don’t have to worry about a kid’s ingenious ability to somehow load and charge my rifle in the middle of the night if I’m asleep or something, not to leave guns out all over the place
>>65482787Solution is 15$ lock etc etc
>>65482819I am waiting for Mark LaRue to make one for $99.99
>>65482829Mark LaRue...
>>65482830Buy the C-Note or you're a fag!
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The challenge wasn't finished until mid-August and only like 3 people did it, so might as well let it run for all of September.
>>65482518I have some respect for the p320 for popularizing the fcu serialization (even though nobody else but fucking sig has done it right)
>>65482203I thought it was proven that there was an issue with slipping in the striker system because of the trigger? Now I'm only talking about it being dropped since I too haven't seen anyone actually explain why the gun suddenly goes off. I do remember years ago talking about safariland holsters having to be recalled but idk.
I live alone in a 3bed house. I quite literally have guns strewn about, with loaded mags, in every room of the house. Like I started typing this post and thought about it "nah that can't be right" and so I checked and yes there's a loaded gun chilling in every room lol. I'm sure it's rewarding to have kids but I'm personally anti-natalist so I can't imagine have to put things away so some brat doesn't accidentally splatter it's brains across the dining room table.
>>65482643I just got a safe, once I got over 10 guns they were really spread around. Plus I occasionally have my roommates dipshit friends in the house and I'd like to make sure they're out of their hands. Might as well be children.
Why do seemingly no other pistols in the entire fucking world have the safety feature the USP does where you can actually use the manual safety whether the hammer is cocked or not (and not to mention the fact that it double functions as a decocker)???I've been wishing all DA/SA guns worked like this but they just don't, no you either need to manually drop the hammer on a loaded chamber which is stupid because then you have to manually recock the hammer in a defensive situation (and who tf does that?) Or you buy a gun that replaces the safety with a decocker only.
>>65481578Got mine at 11 AM EST sharp this morning, and Sol shipped already. Fucking based. Barely any left. I’m probably gonna get one of each.
>>65483049Dunno anon but I'm with you, it's one of the USP's best features. Maybe I'm not versed enough in hammer fire guns but it doesn't seem common for them to have both safety and decocker. Surely someone can correct me and provide similar platforms
>>65483056PX4 (and I would guess the 92s I'm sure someone can confirm or deny) have both but you can't have it cocked and locked, the safe position is also the decock position. USP is definitely the best safety I've found.
>>65483049I think the HK45 does this too, it's preddy neato
>>65483049Because manual safeties are fucking retarded and gay dogmatic leftovers from the army circa 1909.
>>65481514Taking your left wing off is big in the gay community.
>>65481517Fuck you bitch.
>>65481517Speaking of, I've been gone like a year from this hell hole, maybe longer.Is PPtroon dead yet?And what the fuck is with this nigger tier new catchall shit?
>>65483068I read about that
>>65481801Hell yeah.
>>65483078PP got married IIRC
>>65482086>>65482090It was pretty instantaneous. I usually have more of a delayed reaction with blood where something will happen and I'll be like "oh wow" and then a second later I feel the blood trickling down my face and go aw shit. I have all my teeth though so that could be different.
>>65482535They're on sale right now at midway. Zero issues so far with mine.
>>65482643I have a safe but I leave it open all the time.
>>65482869I forgot the rules and shot them all at the lower a zone except for the last shot.
>>65483035Basically I don't want to have to go to a different room to get a gun.
>>65483035Cook so the logical conclusion of this is you should an hero as well to complete the work faster.
>>65483049The Arex Zero 1 does that, but I agree it's a cool feature set more pistols should have it.
>>65483049>drop the hammer on a loaded chamber which is stupid because then you have to manually recock the hammer in a defensive situationDo you not understand how DA/SA works? If it's a defensive situation, you could just fucking shoot the guy in double action.
Fully doing the "buy a cheap 1911 and install nice parts over time" meme now apparently.Ed brown trigger, extreme engineering seer+disconnector+hammer, egw mainspring housing and titanium hammer strut+plunger. Had to take some material off the top of the new msh to fit it right and took just ever so slightly too much but still a tighter gap than it was. Will eventually want to blend the bottom corner with the frame in a mild semi bob but need a proper vice for that. Might even consider trying a mild trigger undercut eventually.Trigger pull is crisper now, but main thing is side to side hammer fit and strut fit have no play now (had to stone the strut to hammer fit a bit too). Fully eliminated some rattle from the gun.Will reiterate the common wisdom that you should just buy a nicer 1911 to begin with, unless you're doing it as a learning experience.
>>65483201i commend you, i had a Garrison that i recently sold because it was unreliable and was chock full of fucking MIM parts that I didn't feel like investing $300 trying to replace one by one to make it into a nicer pistol. I don't have the patience for that shit, I like guns to be good out of the box
>>65481764Put a Streamlight TLR9/10 on it.
>>65483049USP's descendants, the HK45 and P30, do that as well. The prevailing theory behind DA/SA in modern autoloading pistols is that the long and heavy DA pull ensures that a cop or soldier pulling that trigger is doing so intentionally and Officer Timmy isn't ND'ing because he left his finger on the trigger and a dog barked. The SA trigger pull then ensures that if Timmy is actually in a gunfight then he's got the best possible trigger available.So being able to Safe a gun with the hammer cocked isn't seen as all that important because the gun being on Safe implies that the pistol's only being handled for administrative purposes. And if it's only being handled then might as well have the hammer down to further mitigate the chances that Officer Timmy ND's in a moment of retardation.
>>65483212I can at least say this thing has run reliably from day one. This all started because I didn't like the convex trigger face.
>>65483229The logic is there, but the reason I like DA/SA is that it gives options. With a USP you are able to decide if you want to carry it cocked and lock, uncocked and off safe, uncocked and locked, or even Israeli. You can argue until you're blue in the face over which of these options are the best, but being able to choose from them all on the same gun without any modification is nice.
>>65483229>The prevailing theory behind DA/SA in modern autoloading pistolsthat's more of a rationalization than a theory of why it's popular, the design comes from revolvers, and it's popular because the P226 and 92F/FS monopolized the military and police departments in the 80's and 90's after the death of the 1911 and police .38 specials. it's popular because retarded people who don't pull triggers for a living think that it do be like that. The widespread modern adoption of safetyless strikers over DA/SA would seem to indicate that it's irrelevant and mostly fuddlore since anyone who's used one for any meaningful amount of time will know that someone who only shoots a 45 round qual annually will most likely whiff the DA shot and send a flyer into a civilian.
I prefer hammer-fired DA/SA guns for conceal carry and striker-fired guns like Glocks for my duty weapons
>>65483257Both are fine for either applications.
Unironically single actions like 1911s shouldn't have safeties either. Safeties and heavy triggers was old fudd shit carried into the 21st century by antigun politicians/policy makers and mouth breathers dumb enough to fall for the fuddlore.
>>65483258>>65483257No that's dumb as fuck considering DASA 9mms are as fat as striker fired double stack 45autos. The DASA mechanism apparently requires guns to be fat as shit. Which is the worst thing for CC.
>>65483245I'll first say that I agree with your post.>that's more of a rationalization than a theory of why it's popular, the design comes from revolversI'm just going off of Mas Ayoob's explanation. DA/SA in autoloaders didn't become popular until after departments started phasing out revolvers and adopting wonder nines, which gives a good 40+ years of SA as the prevailing autoloader action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq3fong0F6k>it's popular because retarded people who don't pull triggers for a living think that it do be like that.And those same bean counters and pencil pushers drive procurement.
My cz only goes into safe with the hammer cocked. My other da/sa is a usp so idk. I thought more da/sa's were like cz.
>>65483261>fine>OMG seesh youre gonna get kilt in the skreetsok
>>65483261>Which is the worst thing for CCNobody gives a shit about printing. Just don't be fat
>>65483261what is with the constant vague complaining that normal sized handguns are always too big to carry here? Do you people not own belts?I just checked and my shadow 2 compact is the exact same dimensions as a 19X and VP9, and smaller than a P99carrying anything smaller than a G19 is low testosterone behavior and only acceptable if you're at the pool or wearing a suit
>>65483264Nice strawman.There's a reason you never meet anyone who carries a DASA, because they're so fat the person stops carrying (oh I just don't have it on me today) or they go to a striker or SA gun. It's only anonymous internet wierdos who claim to CC those bricks, because they're noguns(or hasguns who has never actually CCed outside the house) who think they want a DASA because it's "safer" or some other retarded rationalization.
>>65483268>Just don't be fatI always figured if i got really fat and printed I could just be like>It's my insulin pump, ASSHOLE, I'm diabetic!!!and make people feel bad for pointing out my gun
>>65483259>Unironically single actions like 1911s shouldn't have safeties either.John Moses Browning always intended the 1911 to have a grip safety, at the very least. Everyone smart enough to design a gun for mass production is also smart enough to realize that most of the users will be retarded enough to accidentally shoot the gun, so for safety and reliability they try to make that as unlikely as possible.
>>65483275I rotate between da/sa and striker. I don't think it matters as much as you think. I like theory crafting too, but it's kind of meaningless if you just bs on the internet.
how do i filter tripfags again? new guy is insufferable
>>65483275Yeah man, I can really feel that extra .08 inches. What am I, the fucking Princess and the Pea?
>>65483283>Ma, posted it again!>MAAA
>>65483278>so for safety and reliability*so for safety and to avoid liability. I'll take that as my cue to go to sleep.
>>65483284Even the closest, the Cz shadow 2, is .11 I ches wider, not cou tinf it's retarded safety(it's retaretard because they still kill people on safe.)
>>65483278At least the grip safety is somewhat not manual, and disengaged itself when held, or at least should, I know in practice it has issues. But it was just dumbass uberfudd army guys wanted an additional manual safety. And now here we are almost 120 years later and we are still plagued by this nonsense.
>>65483297https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/glock-g19-gen5-vs-beretta-px4-storm-compactThese are the two guns I carry most and I don't really feel a difference between them. I carry the Glock in a Kydex holster and the Beretta in a leather one
>>65483299Have you met a military retard? The safety exists so they don't fucking kill themselves or their battle buddies.
>>65483304It's irrelevant when they made them carry Israeli anyways.
>>65483297>.11 I ches wider, not cou tinf it's retarded safety(it's retaretard because they still kill people on safe.)anon can you smell toast?>>65483303>I carry the Glock in a Kydex holster and the Beretta in a leather oneI believe you, different guns carry differentthe VP9 feels like dogshit to carry appendix in the same model holster that I carry a P30L happily inI occaionally carry a .50AE desert eagle appendix when I'm feeling particularly retarded and the extra length actually lets it conceal very well
>>65483275I switched to a USP45c from a Glock 19 because I shoot it better, muh stoppin powah and just general vibes. Carry it every day.
>>65483307The 1911 thumb safety was added for cavalry use, where it was intended to be carried cocked and locked. M9 and M17/M18 are also carried Condition 1.
I have a IWB holster for a 6" GP100, but I almost never CC it
>>65483318It was extremely common for 1911s and M9s mandated to be carried empty chamber, muzzle covered in tape, until like 15 years ago. Larry Vickers had an old video on it.
Someone make a new thread, or I will and the autistic trip fags will get all pissy with what I chose.
>>65483336It's only page 4, relax lil bro
>>65483336Do it, pussy. You won't.
Oooh he said he won’t do it.
>>65483346>>65483341Fine, let the triptrannies and autists seetheNew>>65483362>>65483362>>65483362
>>65481883I condition 1 carry a Hellcat in my pocket every single night when I walk my dog after dark (NH so more worried about furry thrests than bipedal) and it's never just gone off for no reason
>>654830491: Because the double action trigger *IS* the safety, having a manual safety that engages when the hammer is down or a manual safety along with a double action is redundant2: Unless I'm misunderstanding your question, there are absolutely loads of them, DA/SA with safety and decocker on one lever is one of the most common configurations outside of a fully precharged striker. Beretta 92 family and copies, PX4, Walther PP(x) family and copies), Walther P-38 family, Walther P88 family and copies, Grand Power family, over 9000 S&W 2nd and 3rd gen models, six gorilion Ruger P family variants, FN FNX, hell there's even an SMG with it, the Sites Spectre
>>65483035Wht do you do with them when you go out?
>>65482883That issue was fixed YEARS ago. And an entirely separate issue from the "they shoot by themselves" histeria
>>65482423Ah yes... the "im so straight and secure with my sexuality thats why I can be attracted to gay things" cope. Reddit mod tier faggot
>>65482770Seriously. How retarded are your little nigger kids? I only worry about this when they're toddlers. Once they're like 5 years old, perhaps even younger, I trust all my kids around my firearms. I take them to the range and show them what it does to a watermelon and tell them that could accidentally be my head, mommies head, or their own if they touch the gun without daddies permission. So unless you have murdering little nigglet/retarded children that you emotionally abuse and dont discipline. I dont see how you guys cant trust your own children to listen to the man of the house. If OTHER kids are coming over I lock everything up obviously.