Musket EditionPreviously: >>65494474
>>65503411>>65503518well it definitely shoots a hell of a lot better than TulAmmo >>65486806 >>65486821still think i can eek out a bit better groups at a proper range, i can't seem to manage solid groups of more than 2-3 rounds before having to make adjustments laying prone in the dirt littered with empty brass and broken glass from others on this bit of BLM land I like to shoot at need to find a more remote stretch of land or hit a proper range really like this 77gr though, shoots decent and i feel a lot better running it through my gun/suppressor than that dogshit russian trash that turns your bolt black after a mag or two
>>65503910also used ~100 yards for the calcs but was probably something like 100-120 yards away, tough to say as the path i paced out starts straight then goes diagonal so i added some extra paces at the end so the straight line distance would be at least 100 yardsgoing to pick up a cheap vortex rangefinder to better estimate
>>65503910Good to see that their range line stuff is gtg, was curious given that it's a budget friendly option
>>65503910I'm pretty good too when I leave out the flyers.
>>65503910I started keeping one of these in my trunk. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/939101910?pid=276544
ARs with a barrel length lower than 13" are essentially musketoons
>>65503954yeah definitely picking up a mat and a rangefinder, and have a geissele super 42 and H2 buffer coming in a couple days that i want to compare against my current sprinco blue and h1 buffer
>>65503893>no laser filter>no GDI R-com>no buis>wml tailcap placement>barrel heat retention maxxing>pardon me while i adjust my AR's comb heightthis could have been a contender
Musket thread
>>65503954>available in mossy oak bottomland originalwell I guess I have a shooting mat now
>>65504075>available soonnvm
>>65504075They have a sun hoodie in that that I have my eye on.
By this point, how many /arg/s do you think have come and gone?
Someone explain the vault 13 bot guy. How not b&
>>65504091GOAT camo desu
>>65504117As much as I disagree with it, fags are still allowed to post here.
>>65504091fleet farm has these in strichtarn but they're 40 fucking shekels and don't even have the thumb holes sewn in so it's a hard sell for me>>65504096i actually think it was 9 million
>>65503893Is there a cheaper alternative to KA quad rail and covers? I’ve seen some before but can’t remember the brand.
>>65504149p&s.
>>65504149not sure if they sell the rails but my next build is gonna be an 11.5" quad
idk about the 30's but some of those rock river mags aren't surefeeds, I got a d&h 20 round mag.
>>65504462Bummer, 30s are all suresneed
>>65504149two good alternatives are midwest industries drop in quad rail, i like the one that has the little gap cover to make the upper's rail & the handguard's rail continiousdoesn't look 100% clone correct but if you put rail covers/accessories on it the difference is pretty smallother one that looks slightly more clone correct but i wouldnt trust to hold zero for IR lasers is the PSA quad rail, its $100 and if you cover it up with the quad rail covers you pretty much cant tell the differencePSA also has their own knockoff rail covers & vertical grip that come with it, im not a fan of the rail covers but the vertical grip is almost as good as a real KA vertical grip, pretty good deal for $100 desu
>>65504462It helps if you read the product description before buying
>>65504528I guess it's a 10 round mag then.
>>65504153>>65504321>>65504503Thanks, I’ll check those out.
scope recs to plink out to 1000 yards?
>>65504551if you use GAFS someone is selling a RAS m4 quadrail for $160 right now, thats probably the best deal youll geti wouldve snagged it if i didnt have a PSA quad rail thats good enough, i dont use IR aiming devices so i dont really care if it has slight wobble
>>65504617ummm I dont know what's your budget?
>>65504617Budget?
>>65504624>>65504625i'm a cheap fuck so it would hurt my soul more than my bank account to spend more than say 1500 or so with a mount
>>65504626>i'm a cheap fuckSay no more frenhttps://www.arkenopticsusa.com/collections/long-range-shooting
>>65504626Arken SH4 4-16 should do it, you pay with weight
>>65504626This should give you plenty leftover for a good mount. https://www.eurooptic.com/steiner-h6xi-3-18x50mm-mhr-moa-ffp-riflescope-8786
>>65504633>>65504638sheeeiit the gen ii 5-25 kinda looks like the ticket
>>65504321Quads are gay
>>65504694Make sure to get the new reticlethey released, i buy a 5-25 for the ordered 6.5Creedmoor.
>>65504704>new reticlewhich one's that?i was going to go with the VPR/MOA reticle
Let’s say you have unlimited funds to build 1 AR that will last nearly forever, is bombproof, and is sub MOA. What do you buy?
>>65504793BCM upperPSA lower
>>65504793Stag 15 is the state of the Art if you can afford it. They are backlogged from mil contracts but pop up from time to time for civilian.
>>65504793>sub MOAwhy are people so obsessed with thisanyway sr15 or an sr25 clone
>>65504793It’s not an unlimited money problem, AR15 is solved, decently cheap and readily available. Submoa is almost a given so you go for longevity also: CHF+CL from a quality maker such as G$. No rail is bomb proof but there’s plenty of low deflection options with solid barrel nuts such as ris 2/3 or KAC urx. Then you put an acog, elcan or t2 and on it. Surefire light, sling and stock of preference. It’s just the baseline for this general, then you spend your unlimited money on ammo mags nylon and nods.>>65504834Proprietary parts though
>>65504855>Proprietary partsunlimited money indicates the ability to purchase spare parts
>>65504793the AR15 isnt designed to be sub-MOA but i have a build thats even more effective than a sub-MOA gucci AR>A2 Upper>A2 furniture & RAS m5 quad rail>rare greed FRT(i dont like them but they feel well built)>A1 pencil barrel with A2 birdcage>as many 100 round double drum mags that you can clip to your beltthe AR is designed to shoot fast, you dont need sub-moa when you can just dump 20 rounds on target and hit it multiple times
>>65504834>best suppressorbased
>>65504858>admitting it will need partsBaited. Now tell me about KAC qa and warranty.
>>65504855>AR15 is solvedUnity 2.26 for t2 is too tall.
>>655048645.56 was designed by NATO to blow your leg off and bounce around inside the skull
>>65504864shouldve added 'anything milspec' to this post too >>>65504864the AR is just as, arguably more, reliable than the AK & it is easy to clear most malfunctions & even easier maintainits only weak point is the gas tube when it gets super hot but as long as you arent mag dumping nonstop youll never realistically make the gas tube blow up, even the shitty youtube meltdown 'tests' they make the gun so hot they have to wear welding gloves and rounds are cooking off before the gun even fails
>>65504865hold the velos, cherish the velos>>65504868Every gun needs parts dipshit, it came free with your small arms engineering.>Baited. Now tell me about KAC qa and warranty.I don't know I don't fucking buy KAC, I just recite sr15 upper/sr15 lower when applicable, in accordance to the old ways>>65504874based
>>65504834>why are people so obsessed with thisWhy shouldn't I want the most accurate rifle possible? I'm good with 1.5 but I'll always prefer it to be as tight as possible.
>>65504883>basedI wish, I have to return this thing now. I wonder if the ADM QD for it is compatible with something else.
>>65504874I think the future is all in one mount, optic and coaligned laser. And it will be 2.26 with no other height options.
>>65504885>accurateyou mean precise
>>65504895>2.26 with no other height optionsPlease no. This chin weld I'm entertaining is genuinely awful. Why does nobody make a 2.07. I works for my night vision very well.
>>65504885Because if your rifle is more than MOA it’s a fucking piece of shit so not relevant to even think about
>>65504903CAD a FTC magnifier at that height and tell me if it’s possible
>>65504908Don't know about flip to center, but I was running half inch optic riser with 1.57 FTS.
>>65504885you should but it also shouldn't be the basis on which to buy an AR unless you are doing long-range/prs. 1-1.5 is fine, and I would sooner give up moa for barrel material and manufacturing, but ultimately >>65504855 is right, most modern AR barrels are sub-moa>I'll always prefer it to be as tight as possiblegiggity>>65504893>>65504903oof, it's a hard lesson man I still have my T2 and G33 unity mounts. I just went back to lower 1/3>>65504904>Because if your rifle is more than MOA it’s a fucking piece of shit>every issued rifle is/was 1 MOA minimumyeah
>>65504903>Why does nobody make a 2.07.Absolute cowitness plus the unity riser for the QD eokek is in that ballpark. I can't remember the exact measurement though
>>65504912>>65504913>I just went back to lower 1/3I do use night vision, so I have to use something higher. I was trying to avoid having a riser altogether but I may as well go back to using one. Nobody seems to make a 1.93 height QD T2 mount except for scalarworks' clickdrive.
>>65504920>I do use night vision, so I have to use something higherYou really don't
>>65504924>You really don'tYes I do. I tried to use 1.57 with night vision and it didn't work for me. However, without night vision that's my go to height.
>>65504930>it didn't work for mewhat was the issue?I'm just saying that whatever issue you're having with a 2.26" mount isn't going to improve with a 2" one
>>65504937>what was the issueToo low for use with night vision>whatever issue you're having with a 2.26I'm trying to explain that I already have had success with a 2.07 I cobbled together with a 1/2 inch riser coupled with 1.57 mount I've been running. I just wish someone made that 2.07 standard. So I'm thinking of returning the unity and getting a 1.93 in the hopes that it is still usable.
>>65504858unlimited money doesn't make spare parts magically appear out of thin air, unless you are planning on buying out KAC and running the manufacturing yourself thougbeit
>>65504941>Too low for use with night visionthat is not a legitimate issue, dudes have been using lower 1/3 with NV for a decade before the unity shit, and even then they don't really use themBut sorry, I did not realize you had already cobbled together a solution. I was gonna recommend attempting to source a wilcox riser mount or equivalent and a 1.5"-ish optic mount
>>65504954I suspect that they weren't passive aiming but active aiming and it didn't really matter what optic height they were at. I think that the 2.26 is unnecessarily tall even for nods but on an AR it does matter.
>>65504958it depends on who and what, but active aiming will always be superior to passive, and with good discipline and signature reduction doesn't matter t b h. I'm just trying to give you options
>>65504855>No rail is bomb proofDDM4 is without flaw.
>>65504913Cute rifle
>>65504153>>65504149I’m getting ready to buy one for a build and depending on where you look (eBay/GB) the P&S are more expensive. I don’t need the whole kit with the grip, etc. I used to have a Midwest drop in rail that looked pretty close.
new sneed coming out soon.
>>65505022The past few times I looked the p&s weren't that much cheaper than the kacs. I don't really get it, like yeah it's the same rail but different rollmark but the whole reason they are expensive is the cloner tax which used to not extend to p&s. They weren't expensive because they were good they were expensive because they said knights armament on the side.
>>65504913What's the oal on this bad boy
What can I do with an 11.5" fsb barrel? It won't fit, so don't even suggest that.
>>65505169gordy build
>>65505139It was 27.5" from tip of A2 to rear of buttpad.
>>65505178Interesting. The urgi upper with the AASSS + lwrc uciw is 25.6875" (25 11/16") and picrel which is just a regular 10.5 A2 upper with the kak mini milspec is 24.875" (24 7/8")
>>65504149You can find the Daniel Defense quads cheaper now and then. They're not that much cheaper, but are actually quality. They're also tighter around the barrel than most quad manfs though, so you might experience a bit more heat transfer? IDK.For the >>65503893 general, I'm wanting to put together a 6mm Arc upper. Anyone have one? What barrel did you go with?I think I want to do a 16 inch with rifle length gas, but am also considering an 18 inch or 14.5 if it comes to that.It seems like a bunch of shit is out of stock. I'd rather not go ballistic advantage because it's a fucking coin toss whether or not it's a good one, but they are everywhere and cheap.Trying to spend less than ~$400.
Newfag looking for another optic, what's more practical for a red dot: the Comp M4 or a T2?I already have a PRO
>>65505229of those two, T2. But just get a romeo 4t pro for a few hundred less for equal performance
>>65505239tight, I'm just concerned about reliability the most since some anons said Aimpoint was bombproof
>>65505243Aimpoint is, you could argue that's why they still charge $900 for a 10 year old rds. But the Romeo is pretty much the T2 but with different reticle options (and cheaper). Can't go wrong with either.
>>65505212I wanted to put a rra entry stock on it but it would be unusable for me if it were that short and had no adjustment
>>65505243>I'm just concerned about reliabilityAny red dot above $100 is going to be dead reliable
>>65505239I don't understand the love for the Romeo 4T Pro. The buttons are too close together to easily differentiate and almost impossible to use with gloves. It's the same Chinese parts as every other Sig/Holosun, just "assembled" in the US under Sig quality control. Honestly I bet Chinese QC is better. The difference in IR transmission is only noticeable in extremely dark conditions. The Romeo MSR Gen II or Holosun anything is a better optic in almost every way at 1/4 the price. And if you can afford NODs, then you can afford a better optic than Sig.If I were willing to share my contact info on this Ethopian squash distilling forum, I'd offer someone a great deal on a lightly used 4T pro.>>65505229The T2 is smaller, lighter, and has more aftermarket options for mounts. The Comp M4 is cheaper. Prices on T2s have gone up significantly in the last few years. Both are intermittently hard to find. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the Comp M4, but not much reason to get one over a T2 unless you're trying to build something clone correct or you find one for a really good price.
>>65505011Hi YNH
>>65505303You got a tacswap? I'd take that 4t off your hands
>>65505303It's for people who really don't want to admit chinkshit is just as good but can't quite afford an aimpoint.
>>65504617Do you prefer MOA or Mils? You really need to provide some guidelines for this purchase anon. We’re assuming you’re talking about a 10.5” PSA in .223 Rem here.
Kac
>>65505353>t. Dyslexic tranny
>>65505303>The difference in IR transmission is only noticeable in extremely dark conditions. Bullshit. It's a night and day difference between my Romeo5 and my Eotech 552. The Romeo can only be passive aimed with large amounts of backlighting. Any shadows at all and you aren't seeing shit.>The Romeo MSR Gen II or Holosun anything is a better optic in almost every way at 1/4 the price. No, this is poverty cope. If it were true those would be mainline service optics of countries that aren't China and Ukraine. I'm not even bashing the higher end SIG options but your sub $300 crap is not competitive with a real optic.>And if you can afford NODs, then you can afford a better optic than Sig.Aimpoint would get my money if they actually stayed competitive simply to spite SIGger. Instead I'm looking at a Romeo4T now because Aimpoint doesn't sell a T2 with the Eotech reticle. SIG does and it's $300 cheaper. I don't hate SIG that bad.
Howdy
>>65505303I suppose I still can't decide if I want to follow the Block II with a 16" DD barrel that's coming in this coming week, I see that they issued the both the T2 AND the M4S on the cloner site, so I'm split between buying a T2 at MSRP that has the retarded engraved Spuhr mount or the M4S by itself with the mount and spacer as well.I'm not even sure what HRT even means in terms of firearms, I just think of a local Toyota dealer
>>65505372>your sub $300 crap is not competitive with a real opticIts a red dot bro this isnt the 90s anymore aimpoint has been fat and lazy with their military contracts for decades. The reason more nato countries don't buy china made optics is logistical and regulatory nothing to do with the quality of the optics. That's why sig is doing well because they are selling china made optics but with the "domestic made" stamp of approval scam so departments can buy them.
>>65505379Hey
>>65505397>Its a red dot broUntermensch, tell me this instant what your most expensive optic is. >That's why sig is doing well because they are selling china made optics but with the "domestic made" stamp of approval scam so departments can buy them.Very weird how they have the poverty line then too if all of these dots are created equal. If your nonsense about Chinadots being JAG was true every single nation would have a SIG style rebrander supplying them with limitless Holosuns. They don't, they buy high end SIGs or Aimpoints or EOTechs for half the price of a rifle. Because they aren't cut rate shit only a low IQ low impulse control civilian would buy because neither he nor anyone he knows has the taste or brains to understand why a T2 is better than a Romeo5. Deys both putta dot on da target huh?
>>65504073Thats cool camo anon where do i get that?Anyone wanna talk me out or further into an auto rifle lmg set up like pic related?
>>65505414>carry handleoh BROTHER....
>>65505379Hey bedposter>>65505408>Untermensch, tell me this instant what your most expensive optic is.EXPS3 but my holosun HE530 is a close second.>Why does Aimpoint get the contracts instead of holosun?Aimpoint is made in Sweden which is a Nato country. China is an opp to USA who is top dick in Nato. There are countries that use holosun for their military and because of Sig USA is ironically one of them.>JAGSome are JAG some are worse some are better it depends. They all work for basic red dot duty and can take a beating but not all have the glass for nods or magnifiers due to poor light transmission. Not all aimpoints are JAG as the T2 either.
>>65505372> No, this is poverty cope.It actually isn't. For red dots, I have two T2s, two EXPS3s, one of the old AA Eotechs, a 4T pro, and an assortment of cheap chink shit. The 4T pro is the only one I would not buy again. You know what else isn't a mainline service optic in countries that aren't China and Ukraine? The 4T pro. Get an Aimpoint or Eotech for serious use. Get cheap chink shit for a range toy or if you can't afford an Aimpoint or Eotech. If you can't afford an Aimpoint or Eotech, then the one arguable advantage of the 4T pro is irrelevant because you also can't afford NODs.
>>65505414auto rifles are memes
is there a round superior to 77gr blk hills in 11.5?
>>65505434Not enough to matter
>>65505434Supposedly they fell off. Something about velocities being way slower now.
>>65505434Aside from loading your own?
>>65505434Define superior. Accuracy or terminal performance? What distance? Which version - mk262 or their house brand OTM bullets? The mk262 load is superior to the house load. Federal Gold Medal Match SMK might edge out both on accuracy, but it will depend more on the gun than the ammo. Speer GDSP 75gr might have better terminal performance against unarmored targets out of a short barrel. The differences are all probably pretty marginal though. Most 77 and 75gr options are significantly cheaper than Black Hills.
Does anyone here have a cool salt and pepper shaker for camping? Wondering if something new and cool came out or if it's the same old shit.
>>65505434basically any nas3 77gr
Question - should I pay $1500 for 6780 of .223? 5780 is Tula steel cased. 1000 is Wolf Gold. I yes to $250 for the WG. Trying to decide if $1250 for 4780 of .223 is worth it.I don't have a 223 AK.
>>65505514Not a bad price in this economy
>>65505514Steel case is dogshit if you want that much ammo to burn with your beater FRT rifle go for it. Not getting anything near as cheap else where but its very dirty and low velocity so your gassing will be noticeably different
any recs for a 3 lug hub adapter? i'm looking at the rugged ru3 mount
>>65505514If you’re shooting that much volume, you may be one of the few /k/omrades for whom reloading may actually be economical. How much do you value your time?
basic mk18 build. how does it look?
>>65505554Sub 700 Fico
>>65505554Looks like a mk18 built basically
>>65505545I have the YHM one. It's been fine so far.
>>65505549Do you have any idea how long that would take?
>>65505554It's impossible to look good with that style of red dot. Simply can't be done.
>>65505562What is your limited time on this earth worth anon?
>>65505564At home on an AK, but not an AR.
>>65505562Uh estimate for me is about 26 days if I don’t get tired. Shooting once a month is my average so that would line up great for me. I have no life or other hobbies aside from jacking off so that’s just me.
>>65505570More than that. Doing nothing right now is better than reloading. I say this as I have primed 9mm rounds sitting on top of a box of bullets right next to my computer.
>>65505611Gib primed brass
>>65505647200 more in the closet I just didn't grab those. I have 100 gold dots so I was going to do 200 berry's and 100 dots. That's not happening tonight though.
>>65505428Why is 4t pro bad? Genuinely curious
>>65505864>sig
>>65505434bullfrog 77gr because it's cheaper
Just relood
>>65506022Yeah
Is there fucking anything that has a better cheek weld than the SLOPMOD?It feels great but it's ruined by the fact that the end where the end of the stock meets the buffer tube just so happens to be exactly positioned to tear out my fucking mustache hair when I can't the gun to transition from ACOG to top RMR (feels better to can't and use with the left eye than losing my cheek weld and picking my head up)
>look up posts about a gun i want>all comments are people with sub 500 rounds through the gunWhat causes this
>>65506258Spending money on rifle easy because look cool and scary. Spending money on ammo hard because hidden in magazine and have go outside to use.
>>65506258There seems to be a widespread lack of interest in shooting in the gun culture these days. Take a sample of 1,000 gun owners and you'll find MAYBE one or two semi-serious shooters. Irresponsible low-commitment people like to cite "muh ammo prices" or "too busy taking muh kids to soccer" or whatever, but truthfully they're too stupid and/or lazy for guns.
>>65505564>>65505573those sights are tits he just has it far forward looking
>>65506364Torque is where its, at staking doesn't do much and is easily undone on many gunsmith videos
>>65506389Year 2010 it was like 150 shipped for a case of 556. You'd go shooting and buy another when you where half way through it. That program to recycle rifle brass used at military training rages needs to be a thing again
>>65506258most people don't have the time to spend hours at the range every week, so they just buy a gun that they find cool, use it for a bit and then proceed with their lives because they got something else to do
>>65505864It's not bad as such, it's just not worth the money over other options IMO. I dislike the buttons on the 4T pro because they're too close together for me to easily manipulate without looking, especially with gloves. Other than that it's fine, but it's the same internals as other optics costing 1/2 to 1/4 as much with the only difference being optical coatings that give better IR transmission for use with NVGs. In my opinion, if money is a concern then get one of the newer Holosuns or the cheaper SIGs. If passive aiming with NODs is your priority, then get an EOTech. If hard use durability is your priority, then get a T2.
>>65505864Because I will bully you for owning sigshit
>>65506443Somehow I doubt he has night vision.
>ta31>rcr piggybackI really don't need buis anymore do I?
>>65503893Can someone explain how one is supposed to actuate that light?
>>65506533ask yourself if the larp risk is worth the weight penalty? I have BUIS because my 16" is already a big fat pig just like my wife so fuck it. The BUIS will never fail like my wife will never leave me
>>65506535why have I seen this retarded build so often over the past few threads
>>65506389Ammo cost twice as much as it used to while everything else got more expensive. I use to shoot a lot more when I was paying sub 20cpr
>>65506535Use your toes you fuckin idiot
>>65506364Hey what's going on here?
>>65506568They have an article on their site written by a woman and it uses nothing but ai images.
>>65506571That's actually a talent to get it wrong like that. Prompt must have been "make everything wrong on purpose".
>>65506577It's a work of art
>>65505464max energy at max range. the 77gr TMKs>>65505441really?
>>65506535kek look where the foregrip (read: handstop) is in the OPjust reach a tad and actuate with the thumbi had a pressure pad but it significantly cut the light output despite being a surefire product so i said fuck that thing
This is what tech bros believe is going to replace you at your job btw.
OTM or TMK?
>>65506597i have no clue but intuitively it should be TMK without question
>>65506599I have some Sierra 77g TMK. Superior to mk262 OTM?
>>65506603i just said i have no clue nigga why are you asking me keki've only shot a mag or two worth of 77gr OTM for the first time yesterday >>65503910 and it shot fine for 80 cpr so i don't feel any need to pay more for anything else
>>65506535My first AR is a 16 inch BCM with a 15 inch handguard. I didn't know any better and besides the goofy looks of such a thin handguard of that length that's another reason why I was never truly satisfied with it. It was my first though so I'll never change it.
>>65503893>>65506594damn that reminds me how much i've tweaked since i first built it
Meme bcg good. I might pick up another one.
>>65506697>meme bcg
>>65506702KAK downvent
>>65506535Armlet post >>65506697Post magazine brush
>>65506535They're not as big as you think I'm short and I can still stick my finger in the muzzle while it's shouldered.
>>65506741>magazine brush
>>65506753Removes fluid grease and oil not lead and carbon
>>65506756I'll mark 2 mags and track how many rounds they take to get to get gross and post results. I do need to make a mag brush anyway though.
>>65506753my beloved. Even comes with a free light cap
I want a Daniel defense upper with a ris ii rail and 11.5” barrel.Do they make this?All I see is 10.3” mk18 and 12.5” gl/scc.I do see a 11.5” but it has one of their lesser rails.
>>65506876>Do they make this?Just build it yourself. Throw a G$ barrel in it and have a better rifle than you would have buying a complete DD.
>>65506960but DD make better barrels thoughbeit
>>65506964lol
>>65506364I looked up that website... is that whole fucking thing run by ai? What the fuck
>>65506022Are these magazines CA compliant?
Not to beat a dead horse but some of these retards selling stuff on tacswap must be high off their own farts.>spray painted the shit out of something, even mention you'll need to citristrip it>asking for only $20-30off new priceWhy in the world would you pay that much when you can just get it new?
>tfw shooting more lately after focusing hard on work the past few years>already shelled out for a new suppressor and optic>random itch to build/buy a precision bolt guni knew i should have stayed awaybut damn the Bergara HMR Pro heavy barrel looks p sweet for 1500 doll hairs
>>65506697Good how? Does it noticeably reduce gas to the face? I can see no other purpose for down venting.
>>65507130So I just looked into this and it appears The design’s (stated) purpose is to reduce noise for those trying to achieve Hollywood “fwip fwip” on their supersonic velocity caliber for some reason
>Luth-ARBeen out of the AR game a looooong time, these are as jank as I assume?
>>65507188Some good some bad, I would say probably average, QC needs some work but not absolute dogshit quality like BCA.
>>65507130>Good how?Noticeable drop in volume, less gas to the face, and performs normal bcg functions. I didn't buy it because of the "features", I just needed a spare bcg and it's what was in stock. I'm mainly surprised it performs as advertised. It's not groundbreaking but it's neat.
>>65504834IDK about other people but for me I wabt better than 4 MoA because I want to be able to hit small targets at moderate distances. Like groundhogs (their holes are hazards to horses). Even for coyotes I'd much rather aim small and get a clean kill and coyotes are wiley so the shot will not be at close range. I posit that "aim at a target the size of a human body and hit somewhere on it" is a much less relevant standard for civilians than it is for people in war.
>>65507188they're budget alternatives to magpul prson sale at 90 bucks it's a solid stock, only complaint is i wish they sold a variety of cheek risers that allowed for more/wider cheek weldalso they look cool which is the most significant factor tbhfam
>>65507234>4 MoAkek i feel like that would be almost hard to do on purposeeven chrome lined milspec barrels shooting steel case trash can shoot 2-3 MOA
>>65507243Give me a weekend to work on it. I can probably fuck it up good enough
>>65507254kek i just mean shooting skill aside, any modern barrel from a reputable manufacturer is perfectly capable of shooting from 3 MOA to sub MOA depending on ammo
>lens caps flip upBiggest sign of a never shoots
>>65506596Man that whole website was a fever dream, are all their articles written and illustrated by AI?
>>65507333>are all their articles written and illustrated by AI?even worse, women.
>>65507326>lens caps>implying
>>65507326>lens caps at allFTFY
>>65507326It WASN'T a lens cap that was thunder on the surface of Venus >>65507335Jej
Big boss joined the houthis
>>65507366What the best militia theater to join nowadays? Back in the days YPG was the bread n butter. Ukraine is a bit too formal at this point. Does Myanmar take whities?
>>65507366God I wish, those niggers are slinging some real heat. Just saw some video of one of them firing an mg3 full blast from the shoulder. Truly something>>65507376>Does Myanmar take whities?yes but you gotta be careful with which rebel group you choose. The panopticon of American air assets usually aren't spying too hard on sub-Saharan Africa, especially central Africa, and Southeast Asia.For me the big part is just getting guns, then I would just be crossing borders looking for gigs. It'd be easier to shoot in beautiful locations and not be bothered by gay ass normies. Probably start in Pakistan or Iraq, go to on of those nice gunsmiths and find a mk18 block 3 left behind in 2021 and then become a menace somewhere in Turkmenistan shooting shepherds all
>>65507394Have some houthi gun kinohttps://x.com/ahmadslmanz/status/2098846248266510356
>>65507750>dogshit can>dogshit bipod>dogshit vfg>dogshit grip>dogshit stock>dogshit LAM>dogshit white light
>tfw went through the whole rigamarole of adjusting and finely tuning muh fancy precision stock only to go back to SLOPMOD because it just werkswas nice to have the set screw to take any and all play out of the stock but that's basically already solved by electrical tapeat least it looked cool while it lastedalso how the FUCK does NOT A SINGLE other stock compete against SLOPMOD on cheek weld?there's just so much real estate
>>65507815
What's the proper shooting stance for dwarves? I feel like I am doing something wrong for my gun to recoil so much.
>>65507833
Anyone ever order steel targets from those couple places that advertise on instagram?A 40 dollar bundle of one each 4" 6" and 8" targets from 1/2 in AR500 doesn't seem half bad when you already have t posts and hangers and shit
>>65507927its hard to fuck up ar500 steel with prefab holes for hanging/bolt/posts
>>65507968It's more that I want to make sure they're a real company and not just scam targeted ads that won't actually deliver a product
>>65507974use a credit card so you can chargeback
>>65507833It might be your grip that's the problem, not your stance. That being said, I agree with >>65507855
>>65503893I posted in the last thread and realized that I didn't word it right though I did get a few responses. I current use 62gr Aguila BT for practice. Is match ammo worth it to zero and use as 'duty' ammo to get the most impact/accuracy at range and using cheaper m193 or other 556 to train with?
>>65508206to train only ever shoot at range. if not at range can train reload with empty magazine or train clear jam with dummy round.
>>65508298>train clear jam with dummy roundI already do that with my pistol and rifle. My question was about match ammo and using that for primary use.
>>65507927Id buy from a reputable brand, good steel targets last forever and are so much fun. It needs to be the proper metallurgy and rating to withstand something like 556. Wait for holiday sales to get good deals. I highly recommend https://ar500targetsolutions.com/>>65508206Its your call. I have a stack of barrier blind soft point I don't touch as "duty" ammo and use decent m193 as training ammo. They are close enough that I don't need to change zero. To be honest I didn't know Aguila made ammo outside of .22.
>>65507815don't be h8ten
>>65504073
I regret purchasing a 16 inch rifle. Should've went with a 11.5.
>>65508507I’ve always wondered how the fuck shit like this runs. What is that barrel time after the gas block? 0.02 milliseconds?
>>65508654told ya
>>65508656>he thinks that's where the gas block is
I regret purchasing a 11.5 inch rifle.Should've went with a 12.5.
>do i use the 69 gr LG>or the 79 gr BTQ+ Do barrellets really? Embarrassing M193 gang >>65507351Legit worst thing I’ve ever seen not even an arena of filthy frank humor autists could make such a cringe inducing image
>>65508758couldn't be me
>>65507855>>65507980I think i shoot handguns fine. I meant for rifles.
Everyone likes to post their rifles, but nobody ever posts their rifle's weight
>>65508902Weight only matters if you're a scrawny manlet.
>>65508902This >>65506697 is 10.2lbs as pictured with a mag of 77gr otm and 2 cr123's in the stock. I have a plan b mount and brake coming today that should shave off a few more Oz. I haven't weighed my 14.5 but my carry handle 16" weighs a little under 8lbs.
>>6550890210.4 lb fully loaded with 77grHave a direct thread adapter that I might use to get it down to just under 10 lb
For literally no reason whatsoever I want to build a 20" in .223 wylde for long range plinkingWho makes a good match barrel (bonus points for a complete upper)
>>65509068White oak armament
>>65508818>Legit worst thing I’ve ever seen not even an arena of filthy frank humor autists could make such a cringe inducing imagehuh?
>it only costs $300,000 in the current admin for a pardon regardless of your crimeokay this is based. Crime is legal. Why aren't you manufacturing free machine guns?
>>65509234I only have $200k unless I sell my house
>>65509256I am pretty sure if you just stroke his ego a little you can bring that price down
>>65509234I always wondered what it would be like to live in an African dictatorship
>>65507091Get a used Tikka CTR, they can be had for sub-1000
>>65508654Should have went with a 20”
>>65508902Never ask a man his rifle’s weight.
>>65509234QRD?
>>65508832Hey>>65508696…where is it?
>>65508206I zeroed with 77gr and shoot whatever the fuck.
>>65509068Build a mk12 you will be way happier. You don’t need full 20 to hit at distance with modern loadings.
>>65509475>he doesn't know
>>65509495But that’s where I thought it was. Bros how the fuck does this work?
>>65509469Some groups are selling the possibility of pardons from Trump for starting rates of $200,000-$300,000 which they use to gain access to donor and exclusive events to lobby for your pardon directly. The assumption is this explains some of the more bizarre pardons this admin
I want a short ar15 but I don’t want a niche cqb level shortness with notable trade-offs like the mk18.I feel like 12.5” would put me in that general purpose combat rifle area while still being short enough to run suppressed.Could I just run a suppressor that’s on the short side to make up for extra inch of barrel over an 11.5”?Are there any other drawbacks from a 12.5” that I don’t know about like in terms of reliability or anything? On paper it seems like they would be very popular.
>>65509575Get a 11.5 and stop trying to think about it
>>6550957516” is all you need bro. Mid length if you wanna be fancy
>>65509575It's a dumb idea because 11.5 is a way more "solved" barrel length. Tons of good brands selling options that just work and just keep working. Tons of units in circulation proving that too. 12.5 doesn't do anything meaningfully better so there really isn't a practical reason to bother with it. Just get an 11.5 and don't over think it.
>>65509594>12.5 doesn't do anything meaningfully betterThey look pretty sweet with the ris2.
>>65509510https://youtu.be/OM0z2C0sMxI
>>65509575>I want a short ar1516”bbl is standard bro. They even sell pinnweld 14.5”bbls to now
>>65509583>>65509594I feel like it could very easily be one of those things where that’s what is popular “now”, but in a few years you could be telling me the opposite like “12.5” solves everything bro, it’s what’s IN”.I just want to know why in function, someone would really prefer an 11.5” or 10.3”. Shouldn’t the 12.5” be quieter with a suppressor too?
>>65509618>I just want to know why in function, someone would really prefer an 11.5” or 10.3”.10.3" for shortest possible length with carbine gas system aka mk18 larp I see 11.5" as a refinement to the 10.3" where it's still quite short but simpler to tune and not as rough on the internals>Shouldn’t the 12.5” be quieter with a suppressor too?Yes, all else being equal, a longer barrel will be a bit quieter with a suppressor
>>6550961811.5, I have spoken.
>>65509630Yes sir
>>65509618>Shouldn’t the 12.5” be quieter with a suppressor too?And people laugh at .277 fury’s tortuous expectations. 223 rem doesn’t deserve this.
>>65503893why gun big if cartridge small?
>>65504855>Submoa is almost a givenoh if my barrel is sub MOA then why are my groups 3 MOA?checkmate athiests
>>65506697I bought one of these with the deadblow weight on it for frt tuning. Works like a charm.
>>65509667Ammo, (You), etc.
>>65509667Allah (PBUH) does not favor your bullets. Marry your niece. Face the Kabaa and pray.
So in a hypothetical home invasion scenario (defending obviously), would 5.56 out of a 20” barrel give you any tactical advantage? What if by some crazy chance the attackers decided to wear armor?
>Anderson lowers unobtaniumI need one for a KAC upper fuuuck I should've bought that multi pack my lgs had years ago
>>65509746>tactical advantageover what?unless you're defending against someone trudging up your long ass driveway 600 m away, you gain nothing and lose maneuverability and weight compared to God's chosen 11.5"
>>65509751What a funny way of saying “got bought out after selling 100’s of 1000’s per year”
>>65509746if i handed you a carrier with lvl 4 plates, would you confidently let me shoot you in the chest 6 times with a 10.3 and 55gr? min maxxing barrel length for HD is retarded considering m193 will still fragment at HD distances out of short barrels. to the idea that someone is wearing armor and breaking into your home, this is also isn't an issue because you are training to shoot people in the face as well as center mass, right anon?
>>65509773>>65509761Honestly I wouldn’t know. I’m more of a pistol guy, but I’ve recently come to realize that it’s probably a good idea to have some 5.56 on hand just in case.I have no idea how 5.56 acts against plates, or the tactical advantage of 11.5-20” or vice versa. Aside from long distance like you pointed out.
>>65509789>tactical advantageyou keep saying this but i think you mean ballistic advantage tactical advantage goes to a short barrel in home defense and it's not even close
>>65509746certain lvl3 armors will lose to green tip out of a 20inch barrel, but it's pretty niche20 inch barrel would suck for maneuvering tight hallways
>>65509797>ballistic advantage Yeah, that’s probably more accurate to what I’m asking.>>65509802Interesting. So what is special about green tips? I’ve heard people say that m193 out of a 20” is really good, and on paper it’s moving faster, but again- what scenarios is that better?
>>65509789If you're genuinely concerned about armored home invaders then pick up a mag or 2 worth of m855a1. For all other instances an 11.5 and winchester white box range trash 55gr is all you "need".
>>65509819Would that 62gr swiss P m995-lite round be better than m855A1 or is penetration not the most vital factor?
>>65509819Based. I’ll look into it. Thanks anon.
>tfw have the impulsive urge to order the exact same hardware and accessories again but in OD GreenI hate myself
>>65509849Please do it, patriot. We need you to stimulate the economy.
>>65509857I need my Trump Patriot Stimulus first
>>65509815>more accuratePrecise.
>>65509864>he didn't get his doge checksoh shit! Lol
>>65509849it would be weird if you didn't have that urge tbbqh
I’ve had some real life things happen that have really made me put practicality and function over my romanticized idea about how things could go.My biggest concern is hearing loss. My 14.5” ar15 is going to fuck up my hearing for life of I shoot it in my house.So for a proper hd rifle, in considering either a suppressed mp5 clone or a suppressed ar.Now, I would be drawn towards an 11.5” barrel and a nice suppressor but will this be quiet enough to save my ears?That’s one of the reasons I’ve also been considering 12.5”.
>>65509914WHAT?
>>65509815>what is special about green tipsthey have mild steel penetrators and are very cheap and commonthey tend to penetrate cheap steel plates and PE only plates I believe, but they don't do shit against ceramics
>>65509914I've shot my suppressed 10.3 indoors with no earpro. Even with my heavily overbored can it was bearable.
>>65509575Anything under 14.5 just get a .300 and go 7.
>>65509914How much extra "suppression" do you expect from 1" of barrel? 12.5 is a meme. Get an 11.5, red dot, light, sling and a can. Boom, done. It's that easy.
>>65509914It's not that big a deal like sure it's permanent but it's only .01%. You would have to self defend yourself so many times for it to be noticeable. It mostly just makes it so I can't hear people who speak softly so I get to tell them to speak up.
>>65510053>Anything under 11.5 just get a .300 and go 7fixed
I have had my rhodie 6 for 2 months now and still have not used it yet. Maybe I don't enjoy this hobby after all.
>>65510119why not?
>>65510121Idk... just not motivated to go to the range. I've been relaxing every weekend instead.
>>65510119It seems like most of you have a buying hobby and not a shooting hobby.
>>65510129Yeah when you put it that way. I only go to the range after buying a new toy
>>65510139Are you in Utah? I'll go to the range with you.
went with a sling stud style bipod, 9-13"
>>65510264Are you in North Carolina? I'd like to meet up with you in person sometime.
>>65510265I'm close enough and I fuck on the first date
>>65510270I like the paint.
>>65510270Ga?
>>65507091I got the HMR PRO in 300PRC, action and trigger are damn nice!
Show me an EVIL ar-15
>>65510325faggot.
>>65510340Show me an EVILLL ar-15
>>65510340Uh oh he thinks you're a tsun.
You will show me the evil ar-15
>>65510358How bad do you want to see it?
>>65510358Define it
>>65510358Not until next thread
Okay while this thread is still up show me the ar-15 that best uplifts Latinx voices in the Cleveland Belt
Is the /k/ patch on the left shoulder considered homosexual signaling?
Best ar15 brand and configuration for someone who loves furry women (anthro fox women)?
>>65510396SOLGW
>>65510385Taurus
what suppressor do I get for my 14.5 block 2? RC2 mini?
Atrius G-LEVER is good to go with SSA-E right?
>>65510414Only if its for aesthetics, it's so outdated at this point.
>>65510414crs3 obvs.
>>65510414Depends. How is the gun configured? If you have it set up like an SPR with a scope and bipod then a full size can like a crs-3, rc4 or rhodie 6. If you're just using an elcan, acog or red dot then get a k can like a mcq-2, rc4 mini or rhodie 6k.
>wrap wet paper towel around muzzle device>hit it with heat gun for 5 minutes>walk away for 10 minutes>MD breaks loose with torque wrench set to 30ft-lbscan't believe how many people get filtered by rocksett
>>65505102Besides the covers, there aren’t any exterior markings on the rail are there? I’m not a KAC expert but are the Vero Beach ones more collectible than Titusville? I don’t care personally, I’m just trying to find a deal. >>65505169My go to SBR. Heavy profile thick boy. >>65504149JE Machine Tech makes cheap KAC style covers but they are a more glossy plastic. >>65505217There was a seller on GB selling a few gently used 7” Omega Rails and they were $99 last time I checked. I have one, it’s very solid.
>parents are like 70>house my grandpa built that both my dad and i grew up in is on 10 acres with woods in the back>200 m stretch from back innawoods property line to base of huge sledding hill/backstop with steel set up>unincorporated/outside city limits so no limits of shooting>they make more retired pulling pension/social security than they did working>safe filled to the brim with at least 100 firearms that is most certainly not moving i really need to ask them if i can buy it from them for cheap so they can downsizethey can't take care of all the land forever and i'm p sure i could straight up just retire in my mid 30s if i owned a home outright and just plink in the backyard all day, shoot the shit with my buddies from back home, and play vidyaalso could move out of a cucked state and build the 11.5 that i want to but currently can't
>>65510459It has the rail slot numbers but nothing else. They used to be way cheaper, it was a no brainer. I know one of those cities is the one you want but I'm not sure which one.
>>65510557Yeah I don’t care about the city, I mean it’s just a tool mark on the inside. I found this on GB and could almost be tempted to black out the roll mark. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1204825420
>>65510578Oh dang I must not have looked very hard I was seeing them for $250+.
>>65510554Kek >He expects boomers to do something selfless
>>65510554Our parents are the same age and I'm already in my mid 30's. If you are younger than me then it's no wonder this place is so autistic.
>>65510673i'm in my mid 30si want to retire now, i'm over it kek~180k liquidish in cash/investments and another ~180k in retirement accounts and i feel like i live a simple enough life that i could retire now and just worry about property taxes, food, utilities, and fun and be comfortablejust can't do it with a mortgage/rent
>>65510680Have you got a wife?
>>65510701unfortunately i've slept with enough women that i no longer have any respect for them nor interest in marriage or kidsreally just want to live out the rest of my life in peace with as few commitments and responsibilities as i can manage
>>65510713Damn fuck me I guess. I'd like a guy into guns who doesn't mind a lack of vag
Why don't you guys love my rifle as much as I do? I deserve respect for my purchasing decisions.
>>65510713>knowing women well enough makes them unappealing in the long runvery grim, for me and others
>>65510730Mine is better because it's longer
>>65510731>very grimyou have no ideathey're all fundamentally basal primal retards, which makes it easy to sleep with them or manipulate them, but they offer literally nothing substantive outside of procreationgrim indeed
>>65510730Because you either have more or less disposable money than me so fuck you
I'm pretty sure I can tell when a specific shitposter enters this thread, this place is almost bearable without xer in here
>>65510720You literally had that in the military and you threw it away because he didn't treat you enough like a princess
>>65510760It's just fishy and bb in a trenchcoat
>>65510763Idk who you think I am
We need to vote on the BEST rifle in /arg/GO!
>>65510780If you are not shoenice you should still consider suicide ASAP
>>65510805Alright I considered it and decided against it
>>65510796mine, after i paint it
>>65510796Mine right now.
>>65510796Mine, before I ruined it
>>65510587I got mine for $210 a few years ago. There are some on GB for $230 with free shipping. That was probably a one off sale of surplus parts.
>>65510796Mine but suppressed
>>65510796Whichever the longest rifle with a Velos obviously
>6>7>>65510867>>65510867>>65510867>>65510867>>65510867
>>65510870WTF
