So to the people here that believe homosexuality/transsexuality/etc. is something that's influenced mostly by early developmental experiences and isn't hardwired by prenatal hormonal development and genetics, what's your explanation for scientists manipulating serotonin levels/genes and it influencing sexual preference in mice? Obviously humans are more complex but do you have a counter view on this?I actually do think people over rely on certain studies and methodology can often times be proven to be shoddy, and I (((notice))) certain things but stuff like this seems pretty hard to explain away.
One of the most gender affirming things for me as a straight mtf is sitting at the bar during a trans event, waiting for transbians to approach me and buy me a drink. I get the drink, let them flirt with me a while, then hit them with the magic words "sorry but I have a boyfriend" before walking away. These words are so powerful bc it's the very same words theyve been hearing their entire lives, words they started taking hormones to never hear again, and yet here I am once again reminding them of all that past rejection. Im a pretty good person outside of this, but trying to be friends with transbians and help them with their transitions and then being sexually harassed in return for so many years has made me hate them.
>>42343802>>42343732>I’m just saying I don’t understand.Fair enough. You're hilariously ignorant.>Sexist.Well, duh. But it's also behavior you'll see in sorority houses all over America, and bars around the world.Am I being trolled? Is the idea of some girl getting attention, and drinks, and then shutting the suitors down, and getting a thrill from that power really that alien to you fucks? You really see that as stereotypically male?>>42347230It really depends on OP's THOT power level. is she just >You are collecting their broken hearts like scalps!as anon says? This only works well for her if she's desirable/has a lot of simps and suitors, or a cadre to back her up, as she can get attention and establish a position in the pecking order. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>42341816I still do this as a bisexual trans girl.I should be the transbian you talk about bc I’m a hedonistic piece of shit and have two partners and live in the PNW, but I’m not. Romantic/sexual rejection has really never been a difficult thing for me to deal with, even before transitioning, and has never caused me any personal strife (except for that one time I had the best sex of my life and she disappeared off the face of the earth. I hope she’s ok). It kind of became apparent to me that I was separate from manhood after I realized that I could move on from someone saying “No”. Men/people who haven’t fully carved themselves out from manhood can’t really do that. As for ugly transbians that really want to have sex with me (or as is too often the case, “frot” with me [barf]) I simply say “I am not sexually interested in you” and watch for a reaction / change in demeanour. I do look down upon transbians who take rejection poorly, especially because I know what Incel language sounds like. I also stopped entertaining the concept of “Puppygirls”, as it quickly became apparent that that shit was a psyop designed to make trans girls publicly look like terrible sex pests and sometimes turn them into such. It’s a lot of strange individuals out there. I hope men treat u well, Nona o7
>>42341816You know most girls just shrug and go back to the dozens of other women they're having sex with rightYou're not dunking on people where it actually bothers them to be led on, like chasers
Everyone who hates transbians on here has been an absolute mess and a bad person. I can't take your threads seriously any more.
where the fuck are you finding bars where trannies actively show up at?jesus christ i hate normies, i give up
Im a straight cis man who started randomly getting dysphoria at 16, was denied E at that age but all of my moid friends knew I was a troon and basically ridiculed me and shunned me just for telling them I wanted to be a girl and instead of being a man and having a gf and having a job im a shut in HRT repper who has been manmoding for 2y because I hate myself Trooning out is never worth it anons lol I fucking hate moids so much
Was already scared of starting hrt before because i might regret it but now im terrified
>>42347869you should still start HRT anon, I was unlucky in my life and I told people I shouldn't dont be scared, I promise its still worth to get on it.
Youngshit
>>42347860neah, it's just this place that is terrible.
>>42347860I feel your pain anon. I opened up to a few close friends as a dysphoric teen and most all of them began distancing themselves from me. it really hurt because the one guy was my best friend whom I had known for like 7 years. it's probably my fault because I did have a bit of a crush on him but I haven't ever told anyone that before. my parents weren't/aren't supportive so I got hrt at 18 right when I moved out. it's been almost 3 years of manmoding since then and I gotta admit it definitely has me down these days. my advice to anyone who's in a similar situation is to be tenacious and don't let the world beat you down, real happiness comes from being true to yourself.
>13" chest breadth>6'0Is there anything i can do to get a narrower ribcage, like anything at all.
>>42349026idk i dont have a pole caliper so i hold a tape measure and just add a centimeter
>>42349026you need beam callipers to do it properly but you can make cheapo ones at home with a few rulers
>>42349004oof
>>42349111do you just do it how I'd imagine you would, meter stick, tape a ruler at one end, then just hold the other one on the meter stick and slide it manually
>>42349124yeah but you have to make sure you're keeping it straighti just stole my brothers f clamp and used that lol
Is pic related why it's so hard to find love as a gay man? Would trooning out fix this for me?
>>42346514>half this board is screenshots from or links to other websitesand that's a bad thing
>>42346389I used to be avoidant pre-hrt. The moment I took hrt I instantly changed.
>>42349011Really? i got way worse
>>42346470They're not talking about the personality disorder. They're referring to avoidant attachment styles. t. Someone with AVPD who has dated an "avoidant"
>>42346470>avoidant/schizoid people are relatively rareI think you are conflating avoidant personality disorder and avoidant attachment styleAvoidant attachment style is relatively common, estimates vary but 1 in 4 is thrown around a lot. This is just someone who struggles to open up in relationships, portrays themselves as being "independent" and "doesn't do drama" which sounds neat on paper but often ends up being someone who is unable to be emotionally present and bails at the smallest sign of conflictAvoidant personality disorder (AVPD) is a serious condition where someone becomes avoidant to all of lifes stressors. Like, someone who never leaves the house because the slightest criticism or conflict will have them crumble like a house of cards >>42346659Outside of the above you have to accept that you are dating gay men, the overwhelming majority of whom would have been raised to view their sexuality as shameful and this is going to make them become more closed off. That and the hookup culture in the gay scene can make men quite cold. Its like the opposite problem with lesbians where they over invest>>42349011that... that doesnt mean you were avoidant, likely its depression secondary to gender dysphoria.
do trans men work out and try gaining muscle the same way cis men do
>>42346037if they know whats good for them, yes
>>42346133Then start working on changing that nowI tried working out pre-T but gave up because my results were a joke. This post reminded me that I should get back into it now that I'm a year on T. Thank you OP
>>42346037Yes, for me the most challenging part is gaining weight. I'm 5'7" 115lbs and I think my maintenence calories is something like 1800 so I'm trying to hit 2100+ a day and minimum 80 grams of protein often more
>>42346037the buffest ftm on this board looks like this so you decide
Me personally? No. I work outside and exercise but avoid building visible muscle.
I am going to medically transition and this might be at least in part a sexually motivated decision
>>42343384humans when their biology interacts with their mind and higher level consciousness and influences their aspirations and goals:EWWWWWW
>>42344463Guess I'm gonna be malebrained with boobs and a fat ass then
>>42343384what are you gonna do when hrt kills your horny?I thought I was the same way but nope estrogen just feels good, good luck.
>>42343384that's normal. most people with active sex drives make many of their decisions partly motivated for sexual reasons. You think most guys that go to the gym to become hot aren't don't it on some level because they wants to be sexually attractive?Normies choose careers, make medical decisions, choose their life long partners, all in part because of sexual reasons. THAT'S NORMAL.
>>42348865Nah I'm ace I'll never let anyone approach meBut I like being a pretty woman
This is mostly not about transitioning... I think. I'd be okay if I never transitioned. I'd be happier if I did but I don't suffer just because I haven't. I'm just kinda not usually in the mood to put up with the world. I'm not depressed I don't hate myself or anything. Actually long story short I like myself better than almost anyone else. But I don't like most people and most people don't like me. Their loss. So I generally stay alone in my room and I work on a few different kinds of art. Transitioning would take a ton of work even before I started to see results and even once I did manage to present exactly as I wanted I wouldn't feel any better about the primary cause of my listlessness... other people. I don't see any sense in trying to optimize my existence in such an environment. If I had easy access to a painless suicide I'd kill myself as soon as I got too bored. Or I'm totally wrong about all this and maybe transitioning will be the key to changing this entire outlook. So I thought I'd ask.
>>42348559I've never been entirely sure. I think it started out when I noticed how much I disliked being perceived as a boy, with all the assumptions that puts in people's minds. There's nothing I dislike more than being misunderstood. If I presented as a girl I would be less misunderstood. Of course I would still be misunderstood everywhere as a girl too - gender is stupid, really I'm nonbinary, etc - but that is one reason. Another reason I understand even less is that I would feel better about how I look. I enjoy looking feminine. I have no idea why. Before my egg cracked I cared hardly at all about my physical appearance or my choice of clothes. Perhaps that apathy could just be a reaction to "feeling like I'm in the wrong body", as many trans people describe it. And many people, cis and trans, report enjoying working on their appearance and feeling proud of how they have managed to look. I suppose I could that in common with them, but only as a girl. I don't think I know what that really means though. What is a girl?
>>42348621I see, im in a pretty similar situation to your op and this. but I believe to some significant extent the way u present urself socially will always be an act and u have to accept that so don't expect too much but u probably know this already. personally I just trooned cuz I couldn't take it anymore. it feels like its not really a problem cuz its in the background and you can detach from it but at the same time its killing everything on some level or sometimes. honestly just do a cost benefit analysis and do what u truly desire to do, there's not much else I can say. im too early in transition to be able to say if its really worth it in the end
>>42348670I hear a lot of trans people say that they know gender is a performance and they enjoy putting on the performance. But it's hard for me to imagine enjoying that or even doing it at all. When I'm relaxed, when I can fully enjoy myself, I never act. I am myself and I do not try to hide "myself" from others unless I need to for whatever reason. Usually that's because it's the path of least resistance socially. I'm more comfortable acting a little bit for smooth social interactions than being entirely myself and dealing with the fallout of inadvertently picking at one of their many emotional wounds. This happens with essentially everyone I meet and I'm out of patience for it. I'm also proud of what I've already accomplished artistically and I wouldn't mind stopping here. So I don't desire to die, it's just apparently the most attractive option available. Glad the same isn't true for you though. Good luck with your transition.
>>42348756tyhowever, being yourself is precisely an act. although being yourself as X or Y are different acts I suppose. the only path of least resistance phenomenon I can agree exists in the human psyche is just conditioned/impulsive behaviour which doesn't really reflect on the person underneath all of it. I think the only true self is the one that chooses which act to put on in order to suit its desires. its not that I enjoy putting on a performance, is that it can't be anything but a performance. I am always aware and deliberate and when I'm not it's just the animal aspect of my brain coming out.also whether u want to die or not you will find out easily if u end up in a situation where u might die. not really saying you should seek it out but there's no such thing as being on the fence with this
>>42348815Interesting. It sounds like being cis was no less of an act for you than being trans? Not exactly sure. But if so, once again I don't think I relate. "Being myself" with others and "acting" for the protection of others' emotions are entirely different experiences for me.
i'm 27 and i've only ever had sex with and dated one guyi feel like i have wasted my youth, but at the same time i really don't want to be a whore idkmtf tranny in case that wasn't obvious
>>42346612i went from giga incel to having sex with like 5-6 people, i still feel just as ugly and unlovable. its not nice having sex with someone and not even knowing if they actually want to but you just do it anyway in the hope it will make you like yourself.
>>42347178god that sounds like sui fuel
A lot of us are in a similar boat. I stopped caring that much but it would seem pretty morbid if I gave a candid history of my sex life.
>>42346612Girl I lost my virginity at 27 and was so heartbroken when he wouldnt date me i was celibate for another year afterword. By age 32 I had been with 15 guys. You have plenty of time.
>>4234661240 year old whores wish they didn't whore around40 year old chaste women wish they whored aroundTale as old as time
I'm not a judgemental person at all but my boyfriend bought and onesie and I HATE IT; it makes him look like a faggot child, whenever he wears it I just smile and say that it's cute because he likes it but I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT OMFG I WANT TO BURN IT DOWN.It's my fault 100% for not being honest about it so I deserve it but idk, I just need to vent.
>>42348817Rape him to assert dominance.
>>42348817>whenever he wears it I just smile and say that it’s cuteGood. This is all that is needed.It’s not your place to judge your bf, and it’s not your place to question his judgment. All he needs from you is a cute smile and a warm hug and that’s it. Your thoughts aren’t needed.
Do SERMs really work? I’m a femboy and I’m short and naturally feminine but I really want to start estrogen and possibly T blockers to keep my femininity as I age and generally increase it. The major issue is I really don’t want to grow breasts because I like being an extremely feminine male and I don’t want to cross the line into female territory so do SERMs really work in reducing breast growth? Despite being thin I already have a slightly puffy chest and nipples and I like how my chest looks so any more growth would make them look like cone tits and I don’t want that. Micro dosing E would still gradually cause breast growth and only using T blockers can cause health issues, so what are my options for maintaining my femininity and further feminizing my body to the max without breast growth? thx!
>>42344640I had these exact same thoughts because my identity was completely wrapped up in being a faggy twink for tboys and now I just wish my boobs would get bigger faster. And I'm so happy I started hrt because for once I am invested in my appearance and fashion again because I feel like I am changing for the better and not having to worry about losing basic shit like my hair or something
>>42348585now goes by femgirl fishing lol
>>42346412>pici took estrogen and im still like that tho...
Some people just don't start off with a feminine base, or don't respond hardcore to troon meds. I was always a girly looking faggot who got called MA'AM on the phone in my teens which annoyed me to no end because the whole world kept dogging me like I'm some sexy meat hidden behind a boysuit. So now I'm a femboy and they don't say shit and call me SIR which I like. I'm no wimpy woman, I'm a part-time faggot because I can't get pussy so I'm straight when I'm not horny and sucking dick.As for you, just get gyno surgery and you'll be okay. What's the fucking problem?
>>42345229>Don't if this is all a phase and will be dropped after 25-30.Y tho? A man's natty test drops in his 30s so he can ride the HRT fem train for the last few years of his youth (assuming he was a soft pretty boy all along because the train stops at 35+)
what would you do if you came across a boymoder that was extremely strong but also incredibly stupid, would often kill small animals on accident while trying to play with them, could unintentionally break someone's bones if she got riled up, and just generally didn't know her own strength which got her into trouble?
>>42348581I'd tell her to get into mongolian wrestling
>>42348581I didn’t know Lennie was on this board
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>>42348748Tbh didn’t the book describe him as having a soft face with no defined features? If he lost a lot of muscle he probably could pass. Height would be a problem though
Boutta do a 4am gym session but I was too lazy to do laundry so my socks are going to smell so bad. I don't give a fuck though I'm not there to be liked by people. If you get up in my personal space and it smells like shit that's your fault for approaching me. I'm so pissed offalso kind of on topic because trans women need to be building their hamstrings and glutes
Is loving women and cock simultaneously justification to commit to chasing/dating trans women or does that bother trans women?
>>42348433I'm patient, experienced and capable in bed so I'll manage. It's not the most important thing.
>>42347746it's no biggie really as long as you respect her boundaries, don't expect trannies to want to top you or let you suck on it or anything. frotting is mostly ok but it varies from tranny to tranny
>>42348490>t.man with coprophiliaOk
>>42348496Lol>>42348494What do you mean I can't go down on her? No 69?
>>42348496>everyone who does anal is a coprophileAutistic faggot
picrew thread!! post boykisser (yes, even if you don't like them..), guess letters !!11! :^)https://picrew.me/en/image_maker/2468017
>>42348454transbian >>42348441mtf?>>42347496tuff
>>42348507Cute gay boy with some mental problems who wants some abuse..
if you're gonna give shitty rates at least contribute by doing the picrew
>>42348528yeah pretty much sorry about that
>>42348653Why are you apologizing?? Are you apologizing for being this adorable??
