would the trans community still be hated on if all transwomen were straight (only date men)? i think we wouldn't be as hated on, but the community would be extremely toxic and catty and much different.
>>42306711dylan mulvaney - she had a LOT of women supporters and fans which is how she got famous in the first place... because she was a flaming gay guy who transitioned.i think if she passed as a woman during her fame no one would have cared but she was very early on in her transition so people were ruthless.brianna wu - again same thing desu except without the support.you cant just use two people as an example when straight guys who transitioned like lilytino, chris chan, and lia thomas exist.
>>42306821lesbians don't look like thatthe look is specifically meant to appeal to men
>>42306858lily tino is a deliberate troll as far as I can tellpeople mostly like chris chan for being entertaining; I don't think chris chan harmed trans people at alllia thomas is a valid grievance, people did get genuinely mad at the idea of men joining women's sportsI think the concept of 'trans kids', the women's sports thing, brianna wu, and dylan mulvaney were together like 90% of the explanation for the backlash against trans people. I don't think brianna wu and dylan mulvaney were just random individual examples. They were each a pretty big deal. The former was really the first time 4chan went from relating to trannies in a mostly positive porn way like with line trap to relating to them in a negative way, which followed into mainstream culture when those same 4chan users got heavily invested in donald trump winning the 2016 election.And dylan mulvaney was the direct reason for the massive budweiser boycott that led to right wing people realizing they could galvanize their voter base by simply bashing trannies as much as possible, like what nancy mace did when she went from calling herself pro-lgbt to making her whole personality be hating trannies due to that memo all the republicans received about how doing that would make you popular with voters now.
>>42306796>>42306697The thing is that a lot of attacks on trans people come from HSTS stereotypes I.e oh you think women are only interested in makeup and clothes, women want male attention. The best kind of trans person of optics is either a somewhat less feminine HSTS or a meta-attracted AGP who’s somewhat normal or just a genius AGp since if you’re brilliant no one really cares about weirdness
>>42306909lilytino just is a straight man dressing up as a little girl and its cringy as hell to watch and makes trans people look terrible.chris chan literally raped his mom..lia thomas was a 6'4 hulking chad straight man saying that women and men are built the same.those are some of the worst examples of humankind and youre defending them because they like pussy. lol.your timeline makes no sense cause dylan became famous in 2022/2023i dont hate straight guys who transition at all by the way i just think women and open minded men will inherantly support us more.
> be me> not sure if trans woman or femboy> country doesn’t have legal rights for either, country’s lgbt are closeted dipshits without any moral backbone who won't fight for shit because a handful of troons or faggots got killed (as if this doesn’t happen with every civil rights struggle) > the right wingers in my country are hollow skulled homunculi all mimicking hate speech from western right wingers> every two days they claim they don't want trans women in sports > motherfucker, trans women in our country don't even have a chance at a regular job, institutional education or marriage. Fuck are you talking about sports, literally none of us even tried to be in sports dawg, we couldn’t buy the gears or risk breaking a bone without setting ourselves back for life > they talk about trans women being pronoun clutching snowflakes> motherfucker, our language is literally gender neutralI dunno man i get that right wingers are dipshits everywhere but jesus christ these people are not even living in their own country spiritually or intellectually, they claim to care about muslim brotherhood and leading a global jihad while worshipping and reposting western zionists who are vocally transphobic and homophobic. They'll literally accept hatred for Muslims as long as the hater also hates lgbts. All the while calling us imperialists for wanting some pissant fucking legal rights because the west had the legal rights first. They call us Mossad agents while cockgobbling Trump and Shapiro and Welsh, how are these mfs not Mossad agents themselves, man? By Allah, these people are limbs of Dajjal. They have turned anti-imperialism into culture war! They act like they're gonna defeat the west by hating lgbts while selling all their ports and natural resources to America! They're literally calling for american military bases to be built in the country while demonizing queers as colonial! Make it make sense dawg
>>42306899fuck am I supposed to do with that individual case, your president and all of your politicians literally went to Epstein island dawg
do straight trans girls like boys who have never kissed, hugged or sexed a girl?
>>42306731I was open to dating HKVs, given that i was one myself pretrans. No luck tho. I am only the 2nd in my bf's life so close enough.
>>42306731on the one hand the idea of it everything being a first for both of us sounds specialbut on the other hand i'm retarded and would probably feel more comfortable dating a guy with experience in being physical and could guide me along the way
>>42306731Depends on why I suppose, most cases are usually because the guys ugly, or creepy but if you weren't one of those I couldn't care less about a guy's body count really.
The ultimate truth is that the goal of all losers on this board is someone who is more attractive than themselves with significantly lower self esteem and higher tolerance for nonsense.Being a virgin makes you fill one of those boxes, because you'll be more tolerant of shit that someone with an experience would not be. You'll also likely undervalue yourself and settle for someone like them long-term.That doesn't mean they're inherently ugly or that the relationship won't work. But the ultimate dream for anyone on this site is to find some random golden retriever naive retard who is somehow an 8/10 but just never engaged enough with the outside world so you can sweep them away with just enough kindness and then mold them into whatever you want.That also the goal of any chaser really. Every loser here who complains about being lonely is simply looking for that gold mine one day.Of course the other part of it is actually being attractive. Whether boy or girl, what is actually desirable is UNDERVALUING yourself not properly valuing yourself. There will be some people who love the idea of being your first, but usually for their own selfish reasons.Tldr: If your hot.
>>42306731most women dont llike sexually active mene xcept in fugues of masochistic sexual actingo ut cause most sexually active men have actively degrading and violent views towards women
Reppers are innocent, low-confidence males with body image issues who were groomed as children by pinkpilling sneedhonsThe snoyhons tend to use underhanded tactics targeting a reppers' AGPAll AGPs are cis males until groomed by the honmoding pissantsThey write tgtf short stories, claim X fictional character as an egg (and therefore anyone who relates to X character must be a repper), and the promote pipe dream of one day shedding the disgusting male form behind, etc.Every male body is both disgusting, and shaped wrongAs an AMAB it is our duty to force ourselves to like it, even if it makes you cry every morning, even if it causes you to hide every mirror in the roomYou lost the dice roll, and just accept that if you are AMAB you are male for life goddammit
>>42306777Fuck you trannies I could have been a happy teen but you just had to point out that my body is wrong, and give me the false hope of turning into a woman with your freak conversion therapyNo man would stay in researching breast implants for his malformed chest all day long unless he was groomed
Reminder: theyfabs should be put in camps
>>42305507The chill ones can be put in reeducation camps. The ones that are beyond help will be put in other, special camps.
>>42305491second'd
>>42305420Theyfabs are fine
>>42306287...yes, fine and delicious womanly plaps with boutique pronouns and comically, transphobic beliefs!
only a dead theyfab is a good theyfab
Yesterday i was a movieWrong. I didnt. I put it on, then fell asleep after mere minutes. I wasnt aware what happened until morning when i saw the movie had completed. Meaning?Im old now.This is the sorta thing my grandpa would do.Im officially unc tier.Im ancient. Im just a snoozee. A lazy transbian. Im sorry...
you still talk like a zoomer nona you have nothing to worry about. desu if anything you sound a little retarded, but that's okay. it gives you a youthful glow
>>42306518A-awww... t-thanks?......>_<
>that trans girl at the orgy who refuses to take off her chastity cage the entire timeThere's always one! No matter what city or state I'm in, there's at least one of these. What the fuck is their problem???
>>42303198Lol you aren't entitled to her pp even at an orgy
>>42303256NTA but you realize some people don’t like using their dicks right? I typically slap my bfs hand away from mine
>>42306454We bichuds will need to adapt to this sissy "cage" bullshit by swapping to oral to get morsels of penis between the cage bars
>What the fuck is their problem???this you, op?
>>42306454Your bf is gay and you are denying him sex because of a delusion. That sucks for him
>trannies were beloved when society thought they were all sex dolls for men>The second people realized that they were humans, with human flaws, and sometimes even.... gasp... Attracted to women! They became public enemy #1And y'all want me to believe we don't live in a deeply misogynistic patriarchal society
>>42305452your dicks accept us, and they always will, no matter how hard you pray it away
>>42305389Literally no one likes transbians
>>42305389You're deeply retarded if you genuinely believe this. Trans women were so much more hated 30 or even 20 years ago. They're just so much more open now so the pushback is more. No one understood it back then but a man being in a relationship with a tranny was the lowest form of low, it wasn't deemed acceptable by muh patriarchal society(please detox your brain).If you were with a woman then you were just a little bit of a degenerate, a crossdresser or freak who just needs a little guidance. If you were with a man then you were genuinely despised by everyone and considered an abomination who was going to be burned alive for all eternity and should be helped along in that process. You are a young shit retard and know absolutely nothing.
>>42306528Nono but you don't get it cuz when op was a teenager he never heard I'll will of trannies but would goon to them on pornhub and assumed (rightfully) that most other gooners did too but now that he's an adult and their havebeen a couple anti trans hate campaigns down his throat he has come to this post as a co conclusion
>>42306528>Trans women were so much more hated 30 or even 20 years agoNope
like yeah they're typically clockier and more prone to bad optics but they also seem so much happier and more content in their transition than most people here do. its so unfair that they seem to put in way less effort but are so much happier. fmstl.
I think I kind of became more of a reddit or twitter tranny as time went on. I remember back in like 2017 someone saying >I actually thought that was a real woman until I saw the man handsand that stuck with me for a while. At some point after covid I wondered if I was actually dysphoric about my hands or if it was because someone had pointed out a biologically male feature I couldn't do anything about. It's like we put this unobtainable goal of being 1:1 the same as a cis person on a pedestal and then flagellate ourselves for not obtaining it. Like I really wondered what was genuine gender dysphoria and what was just internalizing society's transphobia. I know some non transitioning or misguided ally types want you to believe it's 100% internalized transphobia and for you to exist as a man in a dress with no hrt or surgeries, those people are wrong but it's not 0% either. When I turn all this stupid shit off and go outside and exist it's really not as bad as it feels on the internet. Yeah they can be extremely cringe but I kind of realized those redditors were wiser than us the entire time
Caring about opticscucking and gatekeeping isn't wisdom. Twitter sucks though.
>>42305430>muh happinessIt's fake. K did the happy larp here as well, but she killed herself because it was all make-believe.
>>42306556Trvke, they get so mad at tranners because they need the hugbox to cope.
>>42305430They’re both tied down by reddit karma and twitter likes it becomes a popularity contest at some point and then you just come back here
I am here to emancipate all you spooked queers... and make you spookless!
>>42304964bad faith troll, i'm gonna dip now.
>>42304986Nigga you didn’t realize he was a troll his first post?
>>42304986>>42305046"troll" is a spook
>>42304986was that really your first time seeing a gincel post?
>>42304634This guy ruined my moral character in my teenage years
hello lgbt i am a bi /fit/cel and i have decided i am ready to lose my depressing khhv status. i am 19 and have a good physique (muscular and lean) and i take good care of my looks so i think i am at least average facially but i am very anxious, shy, and somewhat socially inept because of this. my khhv status is entirely my fault my anxiety made me turn down and stop relationships with anybody that has ever been interested or had a crush on me and ive never approached or shown interest in others.i have downloaded grindr because i think this is a good first step to stop being a loser as it's a shameless app where i can show my physique which is my best characteristic from being a gymcel for so longi was wondering if any of you have any advice for me regarding this since i dont know if me being a virgin or shy is offputting. i dont think i would be able to have sex on the first time of meeting someone considering i havent even kissed someone yet (i want to learn how to do that). i dont even know exactly what i want from the app but i just want to take initiative to improve my life i downloaded the app about 15 minutes ago and ive gotten a lot of messages from old men but one reply from a cute femboy although i am too scared to open it so i think i will do so in the morning
>>42306165save it for someone special. i'm 18 and not the most experienced ever. but i've been with a few people and have a bf. ime, sex isn't really something most people look back on as a big deal itself, but emotionally its very important!! and your history relationship with sex has a huge impact.some people have a thing for taking someones virginity. it shouldn't be offputting. imo: don't throw away a lifetime of love for 15 minutes with some polygamous loser you don't have a future with. divorce rates are proportionate to total past partners for both men and women. 50% on average... only 10% for virgins.
>>42306249hmm you are wise anon and maybe ive jumped the gun with wanting to lose my virginity but i am just so scared of the thought of being 30+ and still being khhv because ive witnessed the age keep growing and growing throughout my life and i want it to end. i dont know if you can see it from my perspective but to me any interaction with someone im attracted to is scary and something i cant even comprehend myself doing so i thought if i have sex i will at least gain the confidence to talk or approach people. im not so hyperfixated on the idea of sex itself i dont even really mind being a virgin other than the thought of potential social stigma around it, im just anxious because i dont want a future/potential partner to think im weird. i just want to experience love i guess idk
>>42306326i can empathize with a lot of that, being awkward and anxious and stuff. i'm not saying you should save yourself for marriage (but i wish i could've desu) or be so extreme about it, but you should probably be selective. and i think its normal and desirable to at least wait until you somewhat get to know someone before hooking up. i met my bf on grindr but most people on there r rlly degenerate.i'm sure you can find someone esp if you're like you say in the post, honestly maybe getting laid would devalue it a bit for you and you'd be more confident, but its probably only part of it
>>42306165>i have downloaded grindr because i think this is a good first stepIt absolutely isnt
>>42306165I think you're starting off on the right foot by taking care of yourself, genuinely is one of the best things you can do. I'm almost 21 and was khv as a 19 yo, got a random hookup and then pretty soon after got a gf (not who I hooked up with). I'm not fit (not fat just very skinny) but I'm told often I'm handsome and I do try to take good care of myselfIf you're anxious and shy you probably wont get much out of hookups, me personally I don't like them, my anxiety has gotten a lot better but not to the point where im comfortable with the vulnerability of having sex with almost a stranger, being in a relationship is better for me imo but ymmv.Grindr can be alright but just be careful, I've had friends who've used it for hookups and had sexual encounters they regretted. You're gonna get a lot of weird messages that you should just ignore, try to find somebody who will match your pace. Don't have much advice beyond that cause I've personally never used it but have had many friends that did.If you don't have one, get a job, working for a couple years really helped me break out of my shyness.
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>>42301111damn that's hotgirls (and boys) need some jiggle to encourage the top to do their best
>>42298226what's fat cycling?
>>42301765as gym bros have figured out long ago, the best way to carve your body with the calories that you eat is by alternating between 2 phases, bulking (big calorie surplus) and cutting (big calorie deficit). they do it in an androgenic context for muscle building but i have seen people do the same for their fat reserves in an estrogenic context. my turn to try
>>42302819>as gym bros have figured outI'll never stop appreciating my gym bro friends.They taught me to look at the physical transition as a purely technocratic exercise of body modding. And in doing so, my brain worms got easier to kill and progress became more attainable.
>>42297010Reminds me of that Queen song fat bottomed girls. That’s all I got for input
Would you fuck your pre-transition self?
No, i was an abusive, dickhead chad who thought that because he was handsome, and could fuck whoever he wanted, he could treat people badly
>>42301655Yeah, my pre-transition self was (I still am) a really good person and actually not bad looking at all lowkey.Yeah id let myself hit
>>42301655ProbablyIt'd be from a place of hate though
>>42301655No because I don't like moids
>>42301655no, i wouldn't fuck a childgood try mossad
does anybody in eastern canada want to hang out sometime? im not lgbt but i go on this board because im lonely
Chasergen is thataway
>>42306089i am not a chaser
BUUUUB can you reach out to me 404 exploded and i miss yuo, i hope you'r alive and well
here. I don't know what you're talking about