This isn't what was supposed to happen. I knew it would, but I hoped it wouldn't.I never wanted to feel reverse dysphoria. I wanted to be able to enjoy the effects of estrogen.But now, I constantly feel as if my skin is melting off and I'm constantly in a state of panic because of the effects.I really don't want to be a man, but it's what I always was and always will be. My regular dysphoria was fake from the very beginning.I cannot ever be a woman, simply because my very own brain refuses it against my will.I really hate, really despise being a cis man, but I will need to accept it.
>>42346663It for sure isn't a myth to me having actually experienced it. It's not fun to wake up in a cold sweat multiple times per night and panic about what you're actually doing to your body
>>42344608>being a selfish piece of shit that wants the world to revolve around him is what got him to where he is in the in the first place. he needs to go the other way, he needs to accept that other people do not give a shit about him and deal with that by working on himselfWoaw, literally me
average 3 months on estrogen post
>>42348300It feels like I'm decaying, and it just makes me want to stop asap, no matter how I currently feel about being a man. I can't help but feel like I will come to hate being a woman even more. Should I just continue for a bit more, or is there no point in doing so?
>>42339002>>42339048>>42339105NTA but I'm effectively an HRT femboy trying not to get breasts and was advised to do 7mg every 7 days monotherapy, is it really that crazy of a dose? Ideally I should go to a doctor but I really can't go to any clinics and say I'm a woman that doesn't want boobs they'll immediately put me on a 10 year waitlist.
thred dead make sure (you) delete the old ones http://lena.kiev.ua/voice/ https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbuymeacoffee.com%2Falyssavt%2Fno-explanations-instructions-feminizing https://wiki.sumianvoice.com/wiki/pages/voice-examples/ >pasta:•Tool for visualizing pitch and resonancehttps://acousticgender.space/▶ Resources MTF:--- Full MTF Course ---•L's GuideComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I'm taking this bitch off topic apologies I will disappear now
>>42345927holy fucking faggot
Does L’s guide actually work? Can anyone attest to it? I’ve been using it for a while and no matter what I do I end up with my voice strained. I’m following every tutorial to a T and I’ve been really conscious about false fold constriction or if I’m pushing my pitch excessively but still. All I sound like is a faggy male and I admittedly could probs do a solid Ralsei or Basil Omori voice but I don’t sound like a woman and I feel like I never will.Passoids I know suggest I voice train because they don’t even think I’m doing it. I don’t know how any of you do this without wanting to blow your head off.
>>42346372I used it but i think i shouldve spent more time approaching it intuitively instead of focusing on individual muscle groups leading to strain pain and frustration
>>42318353I was really lucky to have a voice teacher who taught me practical ways to keep my voice in good shape while it sounds feminine. I find a lot of the tips on here to be damaging to my throat personally (swallow and hold method did bad damage to my throat early on in my journey), but whatever works lol. I still feel like i have a bit to go, but hey for nearly 4 years on HRT I feel like I’m on a good path. https://voca.ro/1BTLC9ZbUFIU>>42326652Stole ur idea for top 5 albums in my vocaroo. very smooth & passing voice>>42323836Blahblahblah sounded really naturally feminine. >>42324722Pass
What's the best way to find hookups and/or fwbs as a bi top ftm (in a major city)?
>>42345416dating apps if you just want seggsthe one that's popular might be different where you live
>>42345416An ftm wanted to top me but he told me I needed to remove all of my body hair first it was strange so I didn't go with it
I’m sorry edition Previous thread>>42063173 >>42295165Comics we know of, all ofwhich are named Kaito Shuno:https://www.webcomicsgeneral.top/Other archives and lists:https://tagpacker.com/user/lgbtwebcomicshttps://webring.gay/list.html?id=0Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>42346215One way to get him to shut up.
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>>42344564Levi and Henry kissed before so Levi has a crush on Henry. The kiss wasn’t really serious for Henry probably because they have a like 3 year age gab. Henry has a crush on Levi’s brother Piet and they made out sloppy style. Piet is a giga slut juggling 3 people, his gf his, childhood friend and Henry.
Are you hopelessly single? Do you like romanticizing this loneliness and misery? This is the place for you. Talk about your crushes and lost loves as much as you want.
>>42348359I anticipated this. Thank god the anonymity on this board will allow me to slip back into obscurity.
>>42348412you should refrain from handing out advice if you don't know the whole story.
>>42348438Is it really that serious nigga it's a 4chan thread. I don't think anyone interpreted my shit as advice anyways.
>>42348482it's not that serious but it definitely makes you seem like a dumbass lol. starting anything with 'trust me' definitely comes off as giving advice.
>>42343603>hopelessly singleI don't know anymoreThere's that meme going around where it says, "Everything feels like thinking the stripper is actually into you" and I feel the same way right now with this guy who's into meLike, I'm not sure if he's into me into me or is it just out of convenience for himself because he's a broke college kid and I'm like 5 years his senior with a steady job
I get socially rejected by other trans women pretty much. It makes me very sad but lately the resentment has started to turn into incel tier thoughts. It's all platonic resentment though. Tips on being cool or charismatic? I basically have 0 social anxiety I just don't really know what to do.
>>42347973There are some good books that go over this“The like switch”“Never split the difference”Read about using empathy, body language, and think about how people successfully frame things. The most charismatic person I know taught me a lot of it is just finding ways to get people to talk about themselves.The whole thing is sort of like exercise where the advice is simple, but consistent practice is hard. Actively listen to others, mirror what they say subtly. Think of questions to ask them and drive the conversation forward. Look for small tells in their face if they are interested with how things or going and dont be scared when theyre disinterested especially when you begin. I am an actual autism diagnosis who has had to learn socializing like studying a course material. It feels unnatural to me, after practicing though I have gotten better at keeping people’s attention for longer spans of time. Not perfect, but better than a wall flower. It helps that estrogen made me look prettier
>>42348018Hey I actually appreciate this. I'll pirate those books. >Actively listen to others, mirror what they say subtly. I remember hearing this from a video back during covid.
>>42347973its a huge blackpill when you realise trans women will reject you if you dont have any kind of feminine appeal, they just see you as a fake tranny based on your appearance.
>>42348237OP here. I could explain some of my internal feelings and display my ugly internal world about this point you made. But then in doing so people would go "no wonder other trannies reject you, your heart is poison".
>>42348237For me it's the zero effort shitters. Idgaf if you're the biggest ogrehon on the planet but if you don't even bother to shave I won't have anything to do with you.
i might actually despise ftfemboys/no t "trans men" more than agp rapehonsat least boomerhons probably have some sort of dysphoria, but these people are literally just women who feel the need to appropriate EVERYTHING after reading too much bl, and make sure ftms can never be taken seriously i thought all these attentionwhores died after 2021, but apparently some stuck around instead of becoming detransitioners who spread the word about the horrors of changing their name to Ash or Xavier for 6 monthsthe droves of 50 year olds with sissy kinks are way worse for optics, but something about these women really grinds my gearsmtf btw(feel free to shower with me with praise for my opinions trans guys)
>>42348241Thats all the popular tiktok femboys. They are not chicks tho if they are on t. Pretty sure OP picrel is on t since he has posted lately about his pube stash
>>42348431Let me see and we’ll see
>>42348463i actually have to go to bed gn
>>42347216>Fully trooning out would bring way too many complications in my life, for now.thats fair, im already stealth as “cis” fem irl so now I just wanna lose weight and go back to being a tiny little bit more masculine. I said to a friend the other day, Ive been on both sides of the fence and what I definitely prefer is sitting in the middle, looking at the guys, I hate being a chick and I genuinely hate how chicks are and treat each other. New job and I already had 2 cis lesbians ignoring my engagement ring and asking for my number, I hate it I hate it
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QOTT: how many lollipops are in your pocket at any given time? QOTT2: can i have one? previous: >>42185931
>>42343831ghost and move on. better to be friendless than stuck with a theyfab.
>>42346852Maybe we should get married and adopt a kid from Thailand
>>42346805i think it's perfectly comparable and there's nothing wrong with it. go look at this woman, is she black?
>>42346805I see them more like lifestyle furries. I’d bet all of our brains look kind of autistic in the anterior insula, it’s just with gender dysphoria, HRT has been shown to resolve that dysfunction.
imagine beings g's husband
How come trans jerk their penis off so much?
>>42344698>>42344703>>42344726>>42346406Why are you all such weirdo porn addicted hypersexual freaks?
>>42348470Thank god, another normal. I feel insane reading this shit, in an ideal world these people would be exterminated, or somehow segregated from society. "wahhh violence against trannies is a problem!!" holy shit well I'm starting to see why.
>>42348488you can't just exterminate half of all trans people!!! think of the GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
>>42344683i dont want to be stuck with a soft nonfunctioning penis forever
>>42348497FAT SUCKABLE TRANNY GOCK YESSSSSSSS
The boy you have a crush on is going to get a cis girlfriend and have sex with her and marry her and pump a load into her ovaries and have children with her and you are going to have to settle for a closeted homosexual that you meet on an app for gay cruising and pseudonymous anal sex in public toilets he is never going to have sex with a transvestite and he will never consider having sex with a transvestite you can never have him hes just being polite.Your dreams are unattainable
i dont have toilet sex anon i jerk my roommate off and her friends think we have too many cats
Tranny endgame is gooning in a moldy PNW polycule togetherCould be worse
>>42348408>pump a load into her ovarieshooly virginal. can i deflower you baby?
>>42348408Crushes are for children
>>42348446The posters here barely can vote, so
Everything was fine with the board, we had trannies, chasers, and trollsNow it's overrun by millennials spewing their bioessentialist bullshit. I know Ovarit shut down, but maybe consider complaining on Vexxed or to your millennial friends?Just a thought.
>>42347856That's gender essentialism not bio essentialism. They are very different things. Gender essentialism is completely mainstream in culture, bio essentialism is not, or at least not as much.
>>42348430You are so brainwormed it's like a kind of cancer
>>42347844real, post your favorite ovarit quotes?
>>42348459You are so brainwormed, you think you look identical to female specimenswe're all a little silly
>>42348473NTA but what does this even mean to you?
Hey guys. Just bought this dress. The world is awesome. People are so nice.
>>42348231I wish. I miss spice so much
>>42347141that's wonderful nona, i hope wearing it makes you feel happy
>>42348294people that talk like they did typically have already had horrific experiences with those workers. that feeling tends not to come from imagining how it might go.
>>42348435i know, she said she has avpd. people with avpd famously avoid treatment that may actually improve their prognosis. it's a researched trend. This thread isn't gonna change her mind though lol, idc about this stuff
>>42348453>idc about this stuffwith this youve provided more fuel for me to convince people to avoid treatment. so a net positive.
/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all cis women and trans women (MtF) to discuss lesbian relationships and topics.Be kind to each other and report/ignore trolls who attempt to divide trans mtf lesbians and cis lesbians as a community. This includes transphobic bigotry, femmephobia, butchphobia, racism, and anti-c4t/t4t slop. This is nice thread. :)QOTT>Did you have any positive examples of a romantic relationship to look up to growing up?>Have you ever moved to a new city for a fresh start? Where would you move to if you could?>Would you protect your GF from ICE or do you not love her?tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Flesgen%2Fdiscord: https://discord.gg/bAnVMAGPNRold thread: >>42313868
>>42345197it tastes like pennies and snot and you're constantly fighting hairs getting into your mouth. But everything else about it is hot enough that you kinda learn to ignore that.
>>42346000why do you want a Latina gf?
Test
>>42348201It’ll taste like pennies only near her period.
>>42348222trans or cis pms?
Looks like dismissing the "What is a woman?" question for so long ended up biting us in the ass
>>42347215because your answer is dismissive and basically is just patly stating that "a woman is someone who feels like one and dresses like one" and refusing to acknowledge human perception of sex beyond dress/grooming and internal self recognitiontrannies are trolls who argue in bad faith, their goal is to cause discomfort and pain, that's what they want
>>42347215No one likes, "if you think you're X, then you are one".Imagine using that for anything else."I'm Sean 'The Diddler' Combs and I identify as innocent!" lolJustlolNo one likes this answer and refuse it because it's fucking broken and useless
>>42341295the legal system is just coming to some kind of arbitrary definition with little to little regard for reality.what the law concludes is likely to be some kind of nonsense: for example, it could conclude for practical or political reasons that a fallen tree doesn't count as a tree. a fallen tree is still a tree if you're cutting it away to clear the road, even if you've got a ruling that one isn't to avoid hurting well-intentioned people who haven't flouted the spirit of the law (a pragmatic definition), and a fallen tree is still a tree if you're doing a ruling with the purpose of carving out an excuse for why someone's got a logging truck full of tree trunks so as to subvert the intention of the anti-tree-cutting law (ah, they all blew down, officer...) because the politicians who appointed you don't like it but don't want to legislate. (a politicized one)either way, a fallen tree is still, tautologically, a tree.
>>42347227>automatically assumes trannies are arguing in bad faith
>>42347227they do no like to live in reality like the rest of us which is also the reason why they end up trooning out in the first place
I’m an HRT femboy and I’d love to settle down and get married one day. I know that a lot of men find femboys sexually attractive, but is that the same for romance as well? Are boys like me boywife material or is that just a fantasy? I’d cook and clean, take care of him and the house and maintain my beauty and femininity into old age as long as he marries me and fully commits but I’ve never seen a boy like me in a loving marriage, is that actually possible? Would you guys ever settle down with a femboy or are we just fuckmeat? And are there any real examples of these kinds of marriages?
>>42347861The one on the left is so hot
>>42347909You seem like the kind of guy that can only pull gullible mentally ill people
>>42347921>>42347947i own a home, i get get my needs met. not too much more i could ask for
>>42347861I don't think so, depends what they're like but from the pic I'm assuming no I couldn't marry one.
>>42347861my thirst is unending and insatiable
