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what to do when you have boymoders in your walls and under your floorboards?
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>>42150938
>They continue to shuffle past her feet, but the boymoder is too tired to deal with them

>>42150946
>Doromoding
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>>42150958
>ugh i just cant deal with this anymore....
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>>42150862
Burn the house down. Kill them all
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>>42151010
nope
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Get the borax

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Anon, why don't you just take estrogen and present fem, but without all of that ideological identity and pronoun shit?

Why is it that everyone's acting like there's some unwritten rule that states you must see yourself and force others to see yourself as a woman? Why not just reap the benefits of a transition, but avoid yourself of all the embarrassing and negative aspects of it?

Honestly, the hrt femboy lifestyle has that unparalleled swag to it. You look, sound, behave fem, yet you still insists to be addressed as the gender you were born as. This results in chuds malding by not being able to be transphobic, normies being baffled by the gender nonconformity, trannies seething of how seemingly unbothered you are with all of it.

I mean, this is basically what the ladyboys of Thailand are, and they seem to be a lot more happier than the western troons.
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>why don't you just take estrogen and present fem, but without all of that ideological identity and pronoun shit?

Because most people don't really care or see that I'm a tranny. Only those who need to see my ID do and they start to "correct" themselves. Other then that i somewhat pass.
If thats a problem for you OP then i got a suggestion: KYS
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>>42151472
op called you tranny and a troon and basically made a more verbose "why can't you just be a feminine man" post
i am with you in answering genuine questions and engaging in honest discussion but this is not that
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>>42151493
this is 4chan, what is OP supposed to call us "transgender people"? if this was real life I'd expect that, but not on 4chan
and yeah the "why can't you just be a feminine man" question is something that lots of cissoids genuinely have a hard time understanding, especially when in their mind, trannies = super fem gay men

idk, i get that the culture war is pretty extreme right now but I think you're assuming too much about OP, maybe this is a deliberate bait post, but he hasn't made a fool of himself yet
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>>42151530
desu unless someone does use the term "transgender X" or "trans X" or some ignorant variation of the latter as a compound word i disregard the idea completely that the poster came here in earnest. someone who respects you would not so wantonly use derogatory language while asking you a genuine question; this has held true at least for threads i have responded to in the past. the image and use of the term "ideological" and phrase "force others to see yourself as a woman" also signify to me dishonesty.
i will give you that "tranny" is sort of a neutral word here but it seems that only people who actually know anything about us do use it without the intent to offend. and someone who knows anything about us would know that the feminine-man question is silly and redundant. i could be wrong and i suppose i hope to be, but it is impossible for me to take this thread seriously at present
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>>42150282
Because the market for people who look like women but call themselves men is pretty thin

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Please give me some advice how I could cope with being cis man. I desperately need to accept the fact that I am cis man, but I'm struggling to do so to an unreasonable extent.
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>>42151095
>cursed with a burden?
What kind of burden? Where? You can't even identify thw reason for your suffering. How do you even know that it has to do with being a man?
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>>42151107
>What does it mean "to identify as a man"?
The whole world, but especially I see myself as a man, and I can't imagine that ever changing. I really don't think I can see myself as anything but a man, because that's what my internal sense of self us telling me.
>Why is identifying as a man a bad thing?
It isn't, or at least it should be, but I can't help but feel deeply repulsed by it to the point tgat it's making me physically nauseous
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>>42151114
>How do you even know that it has to do with being a man?
Being a man *is* the burden, or at least that's what it feels like. No matter how much I introspect, I never reach any other conclusions as to what might make me feel "cursed with a burden".
It is possible that I am overlooking something, but I'm completely lost as to what that may be. There is literally nothing in my life which should cause me to feel this way
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>>42151122
>what makes you a man? i alwways identified as such. what does it mean to identify as a man? it means that i see myself as a man
like.... what is a man for you and how it's different from a woman?

what are those introspections of yours? what specific conclusions do you reach? are these conclusions objective, can other cis men reach them too? imagine you want to make a cis man empathize with you, you want to make him know what you feel, how would you explain it to him? could a cis woman also reach similar conclusions?

please anything specific bc you are being so stubborn and annoying, now i know why therapists charge so much
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>>42151637
>what is a man for you and how it's different from a woman?
It is literally just a feeling of self-identification. Whenever I think of men, I feel like that is who I am, and whenever I think of women I feel a distinct sense of estrangement. I wish I could expand more upon this feeling, or more concretely define what actually constitutes being a man or a woman, but it's all very abstract even to myself. It very much feels like it's completely irrelevant how my personality may be, or what I would look like, or how others may perceive me, I'll still feel like I belong to the arbitrary category of "man".
>are these conclusions objective, can other cis men reach them too?
They are definitely completely subjective, and even I struggle to properly define them, which is exactly what makes it so difficult for me to be more concrete when trying to articulate them. I doubt many if any other cis men struggle with this.
>how would you explain it to him?
I'd probably say something along the line of "Imagine if your own identity, your own sense of self, makes you feel like you're enveloped in thorns. It's your prison, and it makes everything feel excruciating. It makes you feel like your purpose is to be penitent for simply being yourself."
>could a cis woman also reach similar conclusions?
I doubt that. Why would a cis woman ever spend so much time thinking about what she'd feel like if she were a cis man?
>what are those introspections of yours? what specific conclusions do you reach?
I try to both rationally assess who I am as a person, and also emotionally determine what feels "right" personally, and I always only ever reached the conclusion that it feels "correct" when I perceive myself as a man, and that anything but would be disingenuous.
>you are being so stubborn and annoying
I'm sorry. I really am trying not to be. Thank you for still replying despite that though

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ICKS I GET FROM TRANNIES:
>when they ask me why I date trannies
>when they ask me why I'll break up with them if they get SRS
>when they ask why I rubbing my erect penis on their limp one
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>the ick i get from trannies
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>>42151915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgpBMZ_KleM

The new age of looksmaxxed chuds are supportive of trans people. We're mog fodder but at least they don't want to kill us.
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>>42151555
hes 19? lol he looks way older. twink dead
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>>42148993
>>42151555
You're gonna seethe so hard when he walks
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>>42151734
His whole gimmick was taking rounds and getting plastic surgery at 18
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>>42148925
>>42149527
man republicans are all closeted faggots

>>42149607
>>42150105
nobody talks about mens looks as much as these fucking homos
oooh he mogs this

>>42151443
>>42151537
>>42151555
he mogs that
ooo daddy is so sexy
no i just follow him for sex pics i mean mog tips so i can mog myself just like daddy

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>>42149463
You are an easy rapeable hole. A tiny poopjeet mogs you

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Just so you know, there are a lot of cis f chasers in korea, japan, and china
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>>42149330
I said, “Yeah, because women can’t be LGB,” sarcastically. Hes the one making that implication by using “women vs. LGB” in nearly all of his retarded arguments.
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>>42127253
first of all why would east asian women want ugly western hons
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>>42148594
Why did you respond to me? FUCK OFF. This isn't your board, moron. You're not wanted here.
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>>42150575
>Women can only be straight!

>You're not wanted here.
You're not wanted in female spaces as well. Now you know how it feels like.
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>>42151892
No.

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I am so glad to be born in the 21st century. Thanks to modern lifestyles, men's testosterone levels are at an all time low. Thank you onions diet for making me look 15 at 19, and therefore, making my trooning easiser.

It's sucks tho that it is hard to find good looking chads tho.
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this is still what you gonna look like bro
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>>42151044
Ok but if you're gonna troon with hrt do it now before second pubert hits
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>>42151044
>men's testosterone levels are at an all time low. Thank you onions diet for making me look 15 at 19, and therefore, making my trooning easiser
It does not work like that. Low t just means that you grow bigger and more dimorphic than females. High t men are often very short cause it turns into estrogen, locking bone growth
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>>42151665
How??? hahhaha
I am on estrogen already. Getting an orchi soon too.
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>>42151709
Moids really think being skinnyfat is the same as being feminine

> be shopping at Goodwill
> go to the clothing aisle
> there's a ton of pride shirts
> $1 each
> buy them all up
> smuggle them all to different 3rd world countries via charities
> gay pride worldwide
> every other country is better off now
> thank you lgbtq
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schizo thread

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Dysphoria = AGP
Repressing = AGP
Needing to block male puberty to pass = AGP
Gynephilia = AGP
Meta-attraction = AGP
Bisexuality = AGP
Asexuality = AGP
Wanting to wear dresses and play with dolls as a child = AGP
Hating being a boy = AGP
Sitting to pee at home before SRS = AGP
Wanting to compete in women's sports = AGP
Feminine presentation before transition = AGP
Euphoria = AGP
Social transition before passing = AGP
Long-term boymoding = AGP

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>>42149858

Thank you Dr. Blanchard i can feel the totality of knowledge coursing through my veins. I have achieved gender apotheos, the answer has always been AGP.
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>>42149990
Deepest congratulations, Alilliceth. You have Dr. Blanchard's blessing to transition.
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HSTS is a nothingburger
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>>42150786
HSTS is gay men being homophobic.
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>>42150797
There have been no new HSTS for years. It's all AGPs pretending to be HSTS.

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People tell me I pass, but I'm not entirely sure I believe them. These days I spend most of my time with other trans girls, and the occasional chaser. The only time I really spend with well adjusted normal cis women/people is when I'm at class, and I just feel m\miles away from ever connecting to them. When they talk, they sound so sweet, and I feel like I have nothing to say but stupid crazy stories that would get you hanged for sodomy any time before the last few decades, I feel like a court jester.
picrel is me.
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addendum, im the person up's freind. id fuck the shit out of your asshole
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>>42149421
im not friends with frenchman
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>>42139960
attention seeker, rope on that fact alone
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>>42139960
Probably will when you stop being one
>I feel like a court jester
You aren't :) At least they were funny
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>>42139960
You pass. I'd cum on your face

Trooning is literally completely useless and does nothing unless you are a gigatwink cispooner before.
Body size, skull size, chin, jaw etc prevent passing and they can't be fully fixed by FFS.
We should try developing ways to make people cope with dysphoria rather than making them troon with no hope to ever make it.
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>>42151653
We don't because we can't cure assburgers. Not only that but most autist would say it makes their life hell and would rather be normal.
Better comparison would be schizophrenia, we don't acknowledge and reinforce someone's delusions but try to make them stop via therapy and medicine. Would you really call a schizophrenic on anti psychosis drugs to be lobotomized?

Being trans is ultimately an awful fucking condition and I want to be normal, I will never be a woman no matter how much I've cope so I wish there'd be any research done into actually curing dysphoria.
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>>42151457
my way of coping with dysphoria is taking hrt and cultivating a feminine image of myself. maybe they should try that
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>>42151742
I am on HRT and it didn't help cultivate any kind of "feminine image of myself" because I still look like a man.
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>>42151691
>you can't cure aspergers
can't cure gd either
>better comparison to a congenital disorder is a mental disease caught in adulthood
mental retardation
>Would you really call a schizophrenic on anti psychosis drugs to be lobotomized?
antipsychotics are diet lobotomizers, yes. Same as SSRIsThat's why they should be avoided unless anything else fails
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>>42151781
meh i just take anti androgens and i look feminine enough to be okay with it now. i didnt look it at all before. i dont care about passing

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I am the most ugly and masculine thing ever
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>>42143012
u have so much potential but u keep feeding ur misery, guess learned helplessness is the greatest tranny killer
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>>42143012

mango are you okay
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>>42143012
Not all that masculine nor extremely ugly, no idea what your body is like but without looking all to carefully I would probably not give you a second look in passing.

However if you imagined yourself becoming some female sexsymbol's long lost twin: yeah that is certainly not happening for you. You were hopefuly told this before starting your transition.
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>>42143767
that may be but i am not one of them
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>>42143012
I think you're hot. I'd cum on your face

Is there any easier ways to bottom train? I have toys that help with very "explosive" finishes but they hurt me quite and i just don't find myself going back to them often but i want to any advice would help

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Would you date a dago/wop boymoder? Like imagine one of those NJ Italian-American retard women, but boymoder like. Would u date her?
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>>42150217
i’m an nj italian manmoder too !!
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>>42150331
Hah! Imagine going to Christmas even en femm
Im man moder af, yet I still have to deal with my grandma bitch moan and complaining abt my hair
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>>42150201
do you have discord
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>>42150170
Yes. Are you into FUBs?
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>>42150170
I would wife them, but I live close to Chicago.

That sounds about right
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>>42151598
>the desire to be desired by straight men is delusional
how is that delusional? they just spam the word delusion not knowing what it means
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>>42151598
>wall of text to respond with to shitty OF bait
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>>42151660
waow thanks dood
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Is this supposed to be enlightening? Literally everyone already knows this.
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>>42151598
>psy-op

Legit, I don't give a fuck about straight men, whether they're attracted to me or not, straight men aren't my type. Same goes for the trans women I know, what really irks me is that straight men tell me they wouldn't fuck trans women like me, when I never asked... If I don't ask, it's not on the table.

>>42151609
Women will fuck children, animals, and inanimate objects, there's like 5 pedo women threads on /pol/ everyday.


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