>here’s your fat redistribution broHRT really is a meme
doesn't look awful for 2 years
this is good though? for 4 months at least
>>35458338why did you dig up a 3 year old picture from reddit to try to dunk on a random trans girl. find better uses of your time
>>35458338you have to lose the weight then put it back on, not just hope your fat moves around your body
would
>>35458350sorry misread im stoned. that’s good progress
>>35458338
>>35458338is there an earlier pic?there's almost no difference there
>>35458338>cute>passeswhat did you think you were doing here
>>35458338Many such cases.
>>35458370transbian phenotype
>>35458370what's wrong with it's breasts
>>35458390>pre-HRT post-BA
>>35458390krystal is basedall trannies should implantmaxx
>>35458390left looks really gross, right looks a lot better for roughly the same weight
>>35458370I will never have this due to my ribcagespeaking of, how to fix it
>>35458370Yeah these two images totally look like they’re the same weight, great comparison >>35458383Pointing out how the slight difference in hip circumference can entirely be explained by the slight difference in angles lol
Probably 4 months of Planned Parenthood 1mg oral estradiol 50mg spiro kek
>>35458338not a meme for me desu.(am 6'5" so any gains i have are like.. rly nerfed :( but yeah kinda proud of this! (also yes slightly anglefagged))
>>35458663Based. Proof it isn't over for heighthons
i think its obvious seeing the stuff here, really what matters if is you already have fem hips/curves in the first placei have never seen someone with truly zero hips then end up with decent results
>>35458663How many months HRT on the left vs the right, and what age did you start?Also did you measure the difference at all
>>35458691Can think of it working partly by killing this area as well as adding fat to the hips and thighs
>>35458338>broclearly too malebrained to get fat redistribution
>>35458735yea but like even w/ that photo, its starting out with some hips & curvesthose who have truly horrible proportions with actually none of that at all, generally hrt wont do anything
>>35458500Is this real?
>>35458691yeah that's kinda fair, i was like 0.75 at the worst iirc.i think i got down to 0.68 once but i've gained a little tummy :(>>35458709HRT from 19 -> 21 now. Started June 2022Subq injections from the start. About .2mg weekly (tho sometimes more if i'm bdd)Prog at 12monthsPio and eating lots at 18monthsAlso measurements: Hips: 39" -> 44.4"Waist: 28" -> 31" (><")Underbust: 34"Bust: 35/36"(iirc?) -> 41"Feels so good ngl. But it's not really that visible at my height + shoulders unless I'm undressed.. :\Really hope to keep getting more...
>>35458338I'm shaped like thisexcellent self-loathing fuel on this friday evening
>>35458880yea, even when i lost weight pre-hrt (I put it on again before hrt too because i looked to masc) mine was ~.98my hips are naturally like <11.5"
>>35458880Ooo Pio result. Though seems like been on it less than 6 months so hard to attribute to Pio. Though at least shows weight gain + pio didn't destroy curves.
>>35458409just wait until you meet the pre-hrt post-srs repressor
>>35458338that's pure sex though?
>>35458409>>35458390>>35458413>pre-HRT post-BA3rd world trannies in 90s and 2000s were different beasts indeed
>>354589130.98 is really bad. Honestly may be fucked without something like hip implants.
>>35459047yea, im losing weight rn, plan to go to 135 then weight cycle + pioif its too over, im not even going to get surgeries
>>35458844yes her names sab and shes a luck shit
>>35458338I see it. She has that disgusting belly bulge that women have. I really really hate that
>>35459075Worth trying. Probably will help some but wouldn't count on lower than 0.80. Interesting to see what it does.Prob most you could do is:>weight cycle with Pio>get really fat (more fat the better)>get bbl and transfer belly fat to hipsSomething like that.
>>35458880Impressive boobs. Nearly at hourglass. I am also really tall with similar proportions and made use of same drugs. I aim to get bbl and ba to complete body transformation. Hopefully, end up mid 40s breast and hips and sub 30 waist.
>>35459122idk about getting really fat, im really fat rn, so once i lose weight, ill weight cycle, but i never plan to get actually big againbut yea, im def trying, we'll see how it turns outi was just initially saying how all decent results ive seen start with decent hips
>>35459195Ooo if you're fat now then yea that could explain the 0.98. Will prob improve a lot just with loss
>>35459218no, its worse now, but what i was saying is pre-hrt i lost a lot of weight and at that weight i had .98. and that was with waist/hip workoutsi tell this story a lot, but i feel it gets the point across, by shoulder to hip ratio is so crazy that a suit place (suitsupply, needed a suit for work pre-hrt) turned me away as a customer because none of their clothes could be modified to fit me, they said i'd need a custom suit made
>>35458359that's not how fat cells work you stupid retard
>>35458476The terrible truth is that there is nothing. Like, for shoulders there are some potentially crippling operations you can undergo, but there's literally nothing for ribcage
>>35458390How did she lose 2-3 inches off her ribcage
>>35459468There are medical braces though?Regardless, I do not care about the whole "oh nooo it's not saaaafeee", everything is possible
>>35459468you can have your bottom ribs removed and the rest broken and bound into a smaller shape
>>35459487>and the rest broken and bound into a smaller shapeAny resources?
>>35459501https://www.agulloplasticsurgery.com/blog/rib-repositioning-for-a-more-defined-waistline/
>>35459548unironically mogs me
>>35459535this is for the bottom ribs (free ribs) no?
>>35459809>>35459548>timecodes in filenamesso you're just casually looking at ugly manly trannies on a Friday afternoon and posting them to a tranny 4chan board?
>>35459846i'm sick so nothing better to do but yeah just on my reddit feed lol. I love my reddit sisters
>>35458663>6'5"Marry me
Going to have to sadly agree my body shape hasn't really changed that much
Fat redistribution takes a long time
>>35460279Too fucking long... I can't wait 10 years to finally look completely fem I'll probably die before then
>>35458338pretty good>>35458370not bad>>35458390boobs this big look retarded>>35458500how is this possible >>35458663no bad>6'5 sorry>>35459548I understand the woman spaces argument >>35459809lol>>35460209wide shoulders but I've seen woman like that, especially with blacks
>>35460307One of the saddest parts of transition.You don't just lose time, but you lose even more time due to transitioning itself taking time.I.e. a youngshit who starts at 14 won't really be living a girl life until 16 at best. A 16 year old starter will have to undo more damage so may take them til 20ish at best to get there. A 20ish starter will prob take til 25. Etc.Then we get to boomer hons like >>35459548who have so much male damage that it'll prob take them 10+ years to undo it. So they start at 55 and they're done when they're 70. Not much time to enjoy it.
>>35460349i started at 26 and am in 5 months nowif its going to take almost 10 years, i dont think i can stay alive for that that having to manmode
>>35460346The bad thoughts are telling me maybe if I starve myself my shoulders will get smaller because less muscle
>>35460349Ahhhhhhhhh
>>35458500hot af as boy and a girl
>>35458500I believe this is real because those boobs are tragic. Still a cutie though.
>>35458880>>35458930What's Pio do?
>>35459109It's so sexy when it's kept in check. Her's is like double the size it should be.
>>35460574
>>35459487>and the rest broken and bound into a smaller shapeJust put me in a coma for 3 months. FUCK being awake through that healing.
>>35459435What? If you start hrt at 200lb, lose 50lb, have stable female hormone levels for long enough, then gain the 50lb back, you will not look the same.
>>35460590Thanks!
>>35460661Important to note it may hurt your boob growth so try to be at a plateau in terms of boob dev before you try it. Like be at least a year on hrt before you mess with it.
>>35460686>>35460590Is it recommend to anamode or otherwise lose a lot of weight first before starting pio?
>>35460964Depends on starting point.Also true ana leads to more complcations so like 19 or 20 bmi you shouldn't go below. The "more complications" are your fat cells die so you have to go really slow when gaining back up (tho gaining slow is advised anyways)
>>35460977Should i drop to 20-19 slow like then take pio and gain weight then? assuming my starting point isnt gigafucked
>>35461056Drop fast, gain slow. Not as great of a tldr article on it but basically a bunch of studies show that when you lose weight rapidly it tends to prioritize it from your midsection and less from places like hips. But that's also the first place it'll be stored if there aren't enouh fat cells to take the fat in those more distant areas
>>35460209Your thighs are fat.,,.,,. ahooga..,.,.
>>35461635My thighs aren't even squishy... I'm pretty much more muscle than I am fat overall and I need to figure out how to change that lol
>>35458338normies think im a tranny because im such a maldjusted woman and wear a mask all the time
>>35458338>the autistic trans women learn that passing isn't just taking pillsyeah why do you think passoids are talking about putting in effort all the time? now go voice train.t. passoid
>>35461096Huh so I *don't* cowmode while on pio? Didnt expect that
>>35461844I mean you do you just become a cow slow instead of fastMaybe take a break in gaining for a month every 10lbs to let things adjust
>>35461096sauce?maybe this is why my midsection has gained more lately...but wait doesn't pio encourage new subq cell growth tho?
>>35460209>censoring the tits on the right when there's almost no difference
>>35458338the truth is that hrt just doesn't do that much for most people, people respond differently so there's outliers in either direction but most get some moderate changes to tissues on their face and some minor shape changes in their body with fat accumulation but that's about ithonest truth is that surgerymaxxing is the way to go if you want drastic changesnot talking about proper youngshits ofc, that's a different story though vs anyone starting after puberty obviously
>>35462093Except I do have boobs they're just small lol
>>35458338honestly would prefer this fat redistribution for manmoding. the only real effects i want from HRT are the neurological stuff. I know I'll never pass i just want to feel more like a girl on the inside
>>35462109Yeah basically
>>35462026It does but it still takes time so slower still better. Just eat a slight caloric surplus rather than binging
>>35459147Thanks!! ^^> I am also really tall with similar proportions and made use of same drugs.Also nice I'm so glad that this is even possible at these heights...> I aim to get bbl and ba to complete body transformation.Also based. I might get bbl too but idk it's risks scare me> Hopefully, end up mid 40s breast and hips and sub 30 waist.Yeah my personal goals are for my hips to be wide enough to compensate for shoulders.. Idc about boobs rly, (wouldn't hate big ones tho but eh..) And I wouldn't mind a tummy either if my hips were big enough.Kind of unrealistic but I'm hoping for 50" hips (or more) one day lol..
>>35458844yes her name is sab and she looks like a man
>>35459548starting to see those round feminine features appear
wow this is fucking incredible i love being intersexim like 7 months in, a lateshit, and i have more than any of these images
>>35462982Post Unsee or fake
>>35458370Can anyone explain how her ribcage literally went down like 3 inches in circumference? Loss of visceral fat?
>>35462938she doesnt look like one in that picture
>>35463234I think that has to be it. There's no visceral fat in the upper rib cage but there is in the lowerMay also be a change in proportions where it's the same size but relatively smaller
>>35462918Did your lifestyle/diet/exercise routine change dramatically?
>>35463248They destransitioned
>>35463234Posturefrauding + loss of muscle mass in obliques and lats.
>>35458370is that a leash on your neck?
>>35462918>Yeah my personal goals are for my hips to be wide enough to compensate for shoulders..That's my problem too. Shoulders too broad against my hips. I supermodelmaxx by dressing as girly as possible as to own it incl wearing heels.
>>35458348no but it looks awful for a woman.>>35458338your whole fucking board is a meme.being trans is not real.you have mental health problems but to deal with them you want a socially acceptable solution that allows you to avoid the real issue and fulfils the natural human desire for a "tribe", and satisfies the ego identity.Deal with your real personal problems, and the desire to be trans will go away. find a real identity defined by nature or blood or history.
>>35463332for everything else, there's photoshop
>>35464021
>>35458338Bump
>>35464021anime avatar
>>35458338she looks cute :)
its so so over. hrt is a meme
>>35464930lol imagine thinking this with this goddess like ribcage to hip ratio
>>35464940its over for him with those shoulders
>>35458338>fat doesn't move on its ownwow, what a revelation, why the fuck do you think everyone say you need to weight cycle
>>35464930your boobs are so round I'm jealous
>>35464930This means nothing without a before pic + timeframe.
>>35465022hes 2 years hrt i think
>>35458663Im 6'4" and I hate myself everyday for it. Seeing your success makes me feel so much better. Thank you
>>35465595I'm basically that height. It's doable with money. I've never had any abuse girlmoding on terf Island and i'm not pretty either. You can do it.
>>35458663Fuck you you deserve to be 6’5
>>35458880AHH real MFers on pio. Thank you for posting your progress and doses.Should I tell my doc about pio? I'm too scared to ask for it but I want him to know it exists. He focused on transgender care and he's BASED. I got him thinking about bicalutamide, he asked my opinion on it a couple years after I requested it and insunated he was prescribing it to other patients.
:(
>>35458338>does not cycle>Waaa why wont fat move
>>35458338very rapeable
>>35466482you are fat, stop being fat
I’m 195cm, even after coming up on 5 years, fat barely redistributed and I have zero tits. This is why I permamanmode
>>35468187you have a womans body but it seems like you started with at least some hip & curvature
>>35468131starvemaxxing tips?
1 year hrt, poses arent rly the exact same but whatever, i dont think i realized how bad my starting point was until i started seeing changes. i just hope my hips can actually widen and arent fused yet :Xlitter.catbox.moe/k3ts02.JPG
>>35468187mog me so shut up.
>>35468369Jesus Christ that starting point… how many months exactly?
>>3546901114months? maybe 13 in the photo. yea it was really bad, i need to get on pio or workout or something
>>35469090nta but i want to know how bad off i amdo you know what your hip breadth was back then?
>>35469108idk, i only measured girth, and the earliest i measured was at 3mo - 90cm, i'd guess like 88cm pre hrt? maybe 86? also im 6foot if that matters 2u. never took hip breadth coz i don't have calipers ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>35469167oh ok tnx. im glad you are making so much progress!at least i know that i am probably too far gone then, im pretty well below those
>>35469190are you also 6' though? if you're shorter then it would make sense for your hips to be narrower. also if you're under 25 you're not too far gone, you could still get hip growth
>>35469344yea im 6' and 26i kinda expected it wouldnt work, my proportions are outsite of the norm for even men, i just kinda wondered what ur might have been so i have like an accurate view of others compared to mine
>>35469373what are your proportions? im curious now, have you started hrt?
>>35461815because they want to feel good about something they "achieved", even though in reality it's all genetics and luck
>>35469488yea i have im 5 months in so maybe something can change?my hips are <11.5" widehere is like one of my proportions graphed...
>>35466482you look like a fat girl, nothing wrong with that.
>>35458663>not a meme for me desu.You were a mr skellington, most trannies already have fat stores so any new weight gain goes to those fat stores instead of newly place stores.
>>35469550ok ill try to measure my hip width now just to check, are you sure the shoulder circ measurement is correct? that one's really hard to do by yourself ime, bideltoid is much easier in like a sliding door or something
>>35469695yep, did other measurements too and they all come out to about the samealso from personal experience of trying to get a nice suit... yea (I was turned away because they didnt make suits that could be hemmed to fit me, they said i needed a custom one made)
>>35468187Buy yourself a bodycon from the tall part of Shein. I guarantee you'll bodypass. t. 193cm
Kinda, might try Pio after losing it again
>>35468187>195cm>>35470520>Buy yourself a bodycon from the tall part of Shein>I guarantee you'll bodypassKEK
>>35470973I quite literally admitted that I don’t pass and just manmode. Chill.
Can I ever be attractive as a woman with such a long torso and wide shoulders and scoliosis? I’m 6 months into hrt, age:24, height: 5’10
>>35466482 jesus fucking christ
>>35472106long torso is usually a woman thing. shoulders/ribcage might make it hard though
>>35458844Ye, look at the belly button for reference
>>35473005But my legs are so short compared to my torso. If you’re gynephilic, can you let me know if you think this body would be attractive with bjob? Or is the shoulders too much? Thank you
>>35460349Would still rather be an old lady than an old man.Psh. Obviously. Not. Maybe.t. repper
>>35470835are pio effects temporary?
I think I did okay for starting at 23 - pic on right was like 1 year HRT, some weight cycling, and pio. Still have no boobs though :(
>>35463332>posturefraudingUnironically blow your brains out, my god you people are mentally ill
>>35474748what's pio
>>35474811pioglitazone, this anon posted about it here >>35460590
>>35474819ops, thanks
>>35458500this is so old dude stop posting me please
>>35474848Post a new pic thenAlso, how many months HRT was the pic taken at
>>35474870no, 13 months or something
>>35474870>Post a new pic thenYou aren’t owed pics of her you fucking freak
>>35474912What is this retarded white knighting for? have an updoot
>>35474980Kill yourself moid
>>35472106You look unmistakably male. A boob job will not save you. Your shoulders are huge and masculine, your torso is really ling in a male way. Im not saying give up hrt or anything but youre 24 and youre expecting to pass AND be attractive like be real with yourself, judging from your starting point neither are achievable.
>>35464930literally perfect proportions gtfo
>>35466482you look like my fat ex bf that moved to canada and married a troon with bigger hands than him then trooned out himself
Wonky formatting on unsees part butFirst pic is 1 yr hrt2nd and 3rd are sorta current and 4th is pre hrthttps://unsee cc/album#AznumS6LDM7ZI rly wish hrt would fix my rib fat
>>35475200sh scars are so retarded
>>35475243I mean it's not like I am proud of them, have them because ive fucked up and relapsed and it happens. Im only human.
>>35475266do it again ill break your nose
>>35458400they are MAN TITS
>>35468187Your body passes to me. Try wearing women's clothing
>>35460590Is my endocrinologist going to laugh in my face if I ask for pio or am I supposed to DYI it?
>>35469599not true, i was fat when i stqrted hrt, not obese, but fat (i was obese few years befoee that too)hrt worked wonders in 4-6 years plus lifestyle changes, i have wide hips. smaller waist, boobs, etc. def. not a meme, just a skill issue
>>35461815Passoids don’t self id. Only hons id as passoids.
>>35462938Stop bullying Sab, she sui’d on Dana’s birthday just let that shit go pls
>>35458338>Heres one specific person’s experience on HRTGrahh hrt bad
>>35468369Could you repost?
>>35476036Sab isnt dead and whos dana
>>35476353sure litter.catbox.moe/sqz0s3.JPG
>>35475200nice tummy
>>35458338This thread made me curious so I checked my own body, I think I’ve gotten some decent redistribution even though I’m only 7mo HRT. Could be hon delusion though I don’t trust myself.https://unsee cc/album#gzasgX63kCIL
>>35477157decent tummy. get fattert. chubby chaser
>>35475856I think everybody is DIY. I've never seen it on any HRT regime except diy channers. I'm going to inform my trans care doctor about it and get his opinion.
>>35477186I hover between 21-22.5 bmi I’m not fat anon, just have visceral fat unfortunately
>>35477211Some people in hrt gen have gotten it prescribed and powers is known to prescribe it.So mostly diy but not entirely.
>>35475856mine said sure, if i really want it, but she said she had people's sugar drop very very low and I'd need to really pay attention to that. But she didn't laugh, she said she'd prescribe it, I just want to lose some weight first and monitor my sugar levels first, then I'll get back to get some gains on pio ^^so don't worry anon, just talk with people who probably want to help you, and if they don't then they're useless anyway and find better ones
>>35478498btw to endos this isn't some special unheard of medicine, they prescribe it to people with diabetes and insulin resistance who are obese, they know the medicine, if they care and talk with their patients and understand why you want it, then why not?
>>35477632We need to exercise!!! I think (I have the same exact body but am 16 months)
>>35477693wow big news, thanks. "Dr Powers prescribes it" is a better request than "dumbasses online take this drug"
>>35478844post
>>35478930Yea he's one of the main popularizers of it/the first I know of to mention it besides the doctors who did the trans study on it 10 years ago.https://www.reddit.com/r/DrWillPowers/comments/1acl75q/some_stuff_ive_been_working_on_and_i_feel_like_im/
>>35458338Fat changes take between one to five years, so says HRTgenalso she weighs the exact same and might do better with a little less weight
>>35478505>btw to endos this isn't some special unheard of medicine,One issue here and part of the pushback some of the older ones give against Pio is because they're familiar with Pio's grandpa medication Trog.Trog can cause liver failure. I know some docs who's main familiarity with this type of medication is having patients die from trog in the 90s
>>35478958No!!! I hate being skinny fat and high body fat for 160lbs!!! It looks really bad having fat love handles and being squishy everywhere
>>35478975he has a death note and lewd animie in his office...
>>35478975THANK YOU. I have a Dr appointment this week and he'd be receptive of this info>>35479066Based
trans girls should only get bigger...
>>35483616this is gross and if you're attracted to obesity you're foul
>>35460590i'm late, but i just took a dark them version of this ss
>>35458338truly good fat distribution is like hip growth desu, by the time adolescence is over the number of fat cells you'll carry and maintain for life is set. starting late means you got fucked on that.
>>35483774i didn't actually realize the subreddit name was still visible if i cropped out the top bit, so i cropped it a bit tighter
>>35466019:(if it's any consolation my shoulders are so wide that all clothes hang off like a tent and hide any curves i have
>>35460590So like what happens if a cis woman takes pioglitazone? Will they look like this?
>>35483813Not at all true lmao gaining weight causes both adipose hypertrophy and adipose hyperplasia: bigger fat cells and the creation of more fat cells. Adipose hyperplasia is one of the mechanisms of fat storage, you never completely stop making more fat cells
>>35484288View it as a step to looking like that.Picrel I suspect is a Pio mutant(so like naturally on Pio similar to the transgenic mice studies are done on). She's like 5'4" and 300lbs in the left pic. If you haven't seen many 300lb women that's a very good fat distro for that weight.Then she lost a bit of weight and got skin surgery and bbl. Ended up super crazy. Prob possible to replicate with Pio maxxing + BBL for trannies but obv have to be numerically obese to get these types of crazy results. And for all the people saying "she's too big" well yea it's like bodybuilding if you don't want a super crazy result you don't have to do it. Be 200lbs instead of 300 and you'll get a more muted result. Just shows what can be done. Insta @graciebon btw
>>35484402wtf i went on her instagram and realised she removed all the photos from her pre-surgery era. Im so bad, that was her prime before she got bogged
>>35484288this is like so extremely impossibly beyond what my own goals are.idc how agp it is giwtwm so bad.why did god make me amab :(
>>35484402Would pioglitazone affect where you lose fat though? I assume that was just liposuction?>>35484672I remember she gave out her measurements once. She has like a 0.55 whr. Also claims to be natural but I choose not to believe it for my own sanity
>>35484672deranged, shes ugly as fuck.
>>35476007>not true, i was fat when i stqrted hrt, not obese, but fat (i was obese few years befoee that too)What bf% at what height, these things matter
>>354847870.55 whr is so insane... god i'm so jealous lolll>>35484983i know i'm deranged. this will not ever be possible for me anyway.but i'd rather look "ugly as fuck" than whatever I look like rn with my bird legs.
>>35466482Girl, consider exercising. I've seen plenty of trans peeps on other websites with visible marks of previously being fat and they look good, nothing's impossible but you gotta take the steps to get there.
>>35459548wait a second, I recognise this personThey post in the NZ facebook groups & discord
>>35458338it was over before it started kek.You don't pass.
it's not a meme you just need to be patient. and also lose weight
