Does anyone think there is a large percentage of closeted gay or bisexual guys in the far right versus the general population? What could be the reason for this?Do you have any personal stories or evidence proving this possible phenomenon?Speaking for myself I had a traditional Catholic phase from 2017 up to 2020 and am from a conservative family in the northeast, but am also a closeted bisexual. Personally I still am politically far right in many ways, but I’m wondering if this is common in that sphere as a whole.
>>35543218i mean yea, in high school i got really into MAGA shit as a form of repression cause i hated myself for being bi & trans so i surrounded myself with people who would never let me come out
>>35543280My story is kinda similar i used to hate myself and everyone else because they fucking got to be happy and escape social conventions and that wasn’t fair to me. If i cannot escape suffering neither should they
>>35543280>>35543327About half of my friends are outwardly very homophobic and far right but the rest would not care if I came out as bi. I am too afraid to come out in general because of the homophobic religious right wing friends because it will create a social disaster especially because I still truly have many far right opinions. Any suggestions?
>>35543462Stop being a faggot or stop being and hanging out with retards
>>35543218i'm far right and bisexual. i claim to be an extremely straight male for narrative reasons.
>>35543503Are you a zoomer and do you think there are others in your far right social circle who would be closeted?It’s kind of like the idea that the most anti porn people are the most addicted
>>35543218a lot of the online religious stuff seems like it attracts closeted guys who like the aesthetics of it and are self hating
>>35543503Bottom or top?
>>35543849not the commenter but OP hereI’d be a bottom
Personally, I think everyone on the political right would be happier being romepilled, where homosexuality is only shameful if you're bottoming for somebody of equal or lesser social standing.
>>35543218being internally conflicted about one's homosexuality causes unusual obsession with opposing homosexuality as such, and therefore attraction to far right politics as a vehicle for "homophobia". source: myself
>>35543218>but I’m wondering if this is common in that sphere as a whole.how will you determine this?
>>35544058What are some signs you can tell someone is closeted?
I'm a conservative, very religious, and bisexual but I'm not like an American style conservative rightoid. The kind of social conservatism yanks and Europeans have is really degenerate and fucked up anyway. Not open about it but not closeted either.>>35544058I can see where your coming from but it still seems like a myth. The ideology of far right whackjobs idolizes Greek god physiques, muscualarity, strength etc. just go look at Nazi artwork and its exactly the kind of thing you'd see in a gay porno. At the same time, they are ideological misogynists who hate women. When these two things combine, they subconsciously fear being sucked into homoeroticism and going faggot so lashing out at gays is a way of doing that. Its also possible their fetish for hypermasculinity actually changes them from straight to gay and then they become conflicted because they are gay in an officially anti-gay culture and just jumping on the LGBT hype train is a way out for them.
>>35543218>Does anyone think there is a large percentage of closeted gay or bisexual guys in the far right versus the general population?Far right wingers are pederasts and sexual predators because they fantasize about power and dominating others.
>>35544234when they're overly drawn to illusory fascist aesthetics (paintings, statues etc.) and get very emotionally involved and defensive when lgbt topics come up
>>35544319straight men have no fear of "going faggot". homosexuality is rooted in childhood trauma and can't be induced through homoerotic images.
>>35544419also when they're insecure in general
It's my unironic opinion that Nick is not closested at all and is just an eccentric genius. He spent like years obsessed with this asian girl and said if he wasn't against race mixing he would marry her.inb4 LE CATBOY LOLOLOL XD
>>35544521Insecure in what?
>>35544532yes, he's not gay. he's too socially competent with straight men to be gay.
>>35544481The childhood trauma that makes them rightoid combined with the homoerotic fascism makes them gay or rather fascism activates a latent potential for homosexuality.
>>35544594the way a person carries themselves, how easily they get hurt. gay men are always preoccupied with the way they look and get hurt very easily. especially by straight men whom they secretly fear. they're very inauthentic. they try to show a certain carefully constructed false image of themselves to the world to cover up their chronic inferiority complex. in short, they have no internal sense of self worth and difficulty in forming authentic non-erotic relationships with straight men.
>>35544628no, fascism is simply an expression of pre-existing homosexuality
>>35543218Turkey Tom is a Twink
>>35544727>gay men are always preoccupied with the way they look and get hurt very easilyThat's trannies rightGays will fuck anything and everythingI think your post is just fantasy
>>35544759there is not that much of a difference between a tranny and a homosexual.
>>35544769Most trannies today are straight men who heard hrt will turn them into the object of their lust. I love the irony of straight men being a part of lgbt. Hilarious.
>>35544769What? I just gave you a difference. Gays evidently fuck everything no matter how rotten or infested that's why they're referred to as plague rats. Trannies also do that to an extent but channel their enormous insecurities into a gargantuan amounts of self deprecation whereas gays just fuck and don't care.
>>35543218nick is hot and based, too bad he’s short
>>35544806homosexuality and transgenderism (not AGP fetishism, but gender dysphoria type transgenderism) are two different outcomes of the same pattern of childhood social maldevelopment. both are expressions of gender identity disorder.
I'm a closeted bi AGP nazi, and I think the reason for the high prevalence of nonstraight sexualities can largely be explained by the fact that high functioning autists - people capable of genuine dissidence because we do not value social consensus for it's own sake - are overwhelmingly nonstraight, with a recent study showing that only 30% reported bring heterosexual.We also deal with extremely hard subject matter and this must take a toll and leave people needing an emotional outlet. This is really exacerbated by not being taken seriously except potentially as a military threat as our whole society is inverted into this Satanic, genocidal parody. And the normies just go along with it. It is like they have no thoughts.
>>35543218I'm far right and bi mtf
>>35544976I think there is also an element of closeted guys getting into the far right but more specifically tradcath and orthodoxy to use it as an excuse for their lack of sexual activity or interest in women. in an otherwise hypersexualised world they can defer to moral teachings as the excuse for their sexual disinterest and also weaponise it to shame straight religious guys who are involved with women - it’s a jealous self hating misery loves company mentality Also agree with the comment about spergs being on the far right, that definitely would contribute and I personally know guys who are hot but clearly autistic but I don’t know if they’d be closeted or just straight (I say that because despite going on dates they remain virgins and don’t go beyond the first date or two)
>>35545302People who are still Christian haven't fully discarded Jewthought.
>>35543218nick is an epic based trad-pilled incel! he's not gay!!
>>35545468No one actually believes this
>>35545478no one actually believes that he's gay
>>35545478he just doesn't like women because they've been ruined by leftism, dude!but genuinely, he's a pretty handsome guy, he's charismatic. i don't believe him being a nazi is stopping him from getting a gf. idk what's going on with him but his explanations don't cut it.
>>35545468>>35545478>>35545516>>35545567why don’t you answer op’s questions instead of bringing up this irrelevant fuentes speculation for the millionth time
>>35545567women have been ruined. he probably has unrealistic standards, like wanting a virgin woman who will be willing to be a housewife. he admits women have been ruined but wants an unruined woman, it's impossible. I believe he also says he would prefer it to be arranged, but that's also unrealistic.
>>35543462maybe stop having far right beliefs and become a normal person
for all the rightoids here:you all are genuinely horrible people for supporting such beliefs that are harm not only you but all other LGBT+ people, I hope you guys change for the better and become normal people
>>35545787far right believes are abstractions of intuitive normality
>>35545878lmao are you serious
>>35543462Stop being a rightoid and convert to communitarianism.
>>35545908*beliefs
>>35545908"intuitive" shame-based politics induced by bad parenting
>>35545950Don't be a fool. Right wing politics is promoted by our government. Rightoids are useful idiots who don't realize they are tools.
>>35545950then why are my parents liberal art teachers and i still ended up as a nazi?
>>35545878right wing beliefs are normal
>>35545960>Right wing politics is promoted by our governmentthe government:promotes white extinction and sodomy
>>35545962cause you're a edgy little faggot rebelling against your parents
>>35545962Because liberalism is the root of fascism. Nazism and fascism evolved out of a kneejerk reaction to liberalism. Hitler was a great admirer of America's Founding Fathers. Liberals were genociding and conquering long before the fascists showed up. So in that sense, its a natural evolution. But you see, liberalism is so much better at being a totalitarian world system that being a Nazi in 2024 is rather futile. So Nazism is really just an outlet for subconscious neuroticism.>>35545987>white extinction lol this is just BLM black nationalist idpol in reverse. Need to be a victim. Edgy faggotry.
>>35546075Everyone genocides, communists too.
INGSOC; Neo-Bolchevism and obliteration of the self are better than right wing retardationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI_cRxJXJOU&pp=ygUaMTk4NCBhbnRoZW1zIGdlb3JnZSBvcndlbGw%3D
>>35546084Thankfully commies spend more time killing each other than any other demographic.
>>35545999yes so i wasn't brainwashed into right wing beliefs by my parents as you suggested.
>>35543462Righttoids are usually retards, but being gay doesn't mean you're a leftist. I mean, Liberals are also retardsHonestly, if your friends abandon you for being gay, they weren't your friends to begin with, and why would you want that? I personally know far-right dudes who like cock, their economic ideology doesn't translate to their sexual preferences.The polarization of social issues is something made up by (((((them))))) to keep everyone in line, hating their brother instead of looking to the real culprits. If you're angry that your friend is sucking some cock, you won't have time to be angry about ((((((((them)))))))) actually fucking you over slowly, and when you actually start to pay attention to the important shit, then they fuck you over all at onceHave different ideologies, but love thy brother, he'll be the one at your side when they come for both of you
>>35543218For many young men tradlarping is a way to express their masculinity. Most reppers are failed males so an environment in which they get rewarded for talking like strong manly men is inherently appealing (complaints about degeneracy, feminism and sedentary lifestyles). I'm not trying to bash these guys though, I'm talking from experience. From ages 16 ~ 25 I held far-right positions and made them part of my "personality". But a huge reason why I acted like that was because I was an effeminate manlet who had to overcompensate in some way. Now I tr00ned out and I still have some far-right opinions, but the key difference is that now I don't have any emotional attachment to them and I can accept that I might be wrong.Also, something that people tend to forget is that many prominent fascists were homosexual men or had no problems eith homosexuality. It was the commies who thought that faggots are degenerated. So apparently the far-right always appealed to guys like that.
>>35546204This. >Have different ideologies, but love thy brother, he'll be the one at your side when they come for both of youCertain ideologies are rooted in hate (fascism, liberalism) and others in resentment (leftism) and for these groups "loving thy brother" isn't a value they care to uphold. You only end up loving the people that hate you. Love shouldn't be unconditional.
>>35546075nazism is totalitarianism in favor of white people. liberalism is totalitarianism in favor of capitalism and white genocide. we are being replaced and turned into absolute minorities in our own homelands. i'm not going to pretend that i'm okay with that.
>>35546304>nazism is totalitarianism in favor of white peopleIts totalitarianism in favor of aryans, the so-called Germanic race more specifically, not whites in general. Just look at what the Nazis did to Slavs or what they had to say about Southern Europeans.>liberalism is totalitarianism in favor of capitalism and white genocide. Liberalism is in favor of white genocide? Okay I'll grant you that one one condition. If you can show me a major liberal political philosopher who has advocated white genocide. I'm not talking some random isolated politician or a "journalist" writing think pieces. Show me where do Karl Popper or John Rawls or Kant say they are in favor of white genocide. Have you read anything Kant or Hegel said about whites? If they were alive today they'd be accused of being Nazis. Heck, it was the liberals who helped come up with the idea of protecting the magical white fantasy race to begin with. >we are being replaced and turned into absolute minorities in our own homelandsPure neuroticism and reverse narcissism. What is it with millenials and Gen Ziggers? Why do you people all have a fucking victim complex?
>>35546446>Its totalitarianism in favor of aryans, the so-called Germanic race more specifically, not whites in general. Just look at what the Nazis did to Slavs or what they had to say about Southern Europeans.basedwhite genocide is replacement migration. it doesn't need to be explicitly "advocated" by a liberal philosopher to be valid. all support for mass migration - the highest principle of liberalism - is implicit support for white genocide. period.>Pure neuroticism and reverse narcissismno, it's the truth and denying it is oppressive, dehumanizing and insane
>>35546747I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with schizo who thinks people moving around is genocide. But if you genuinely think liberalism is pro-white genocide (where does Jefferson, Paine, Kant, Hegel, or Rawls ever say that?) you are basically braindead. Your mind is so poisoned by memes and narratives there's no getting through to you. >no, it's the truth and denying it is oppressive, dehumanizing and insaneLiterally wokeism for white boys with a chip on their shoulder lmao
>>35546819the result and end state of liberalism is white extinction, therefore that's what liberalism is ultimately about.>Literally wokeism for white boysbased. stay cucked
anyone making less than like 150k a year who holds far right opinions is legitimately a retard
>>35546930if you support capitalism and wage slavery, you're not far right. just cuckservative.
I think it's dumb to assume that being closeted means you're ashamed or self hatingSome people just don't want to put their sex life in the public eye, and that's in line wth conservative thinkingI highly doubt Nick is gay though, memes aside
>>35543218I hate n.
>>35546819>HegelPiece of shit, that was the seed of much of our disfortune.>JeffersonVery based.>Et al.Most of them are alright.
>>35546962Capitalism is a fundamental pillar of the US. There is a reason Americans immediately recognized that communists were almost always traitors to Our Nation. The far-right is not the same everywhere.
>>35547135capitalism and white genocide go hand in hand.
>>35546107wasn't meant to be an exhaustive explanation. most things are pretty complicated (i know right-wingers don't understand this)
>>35547152Only for retards. Unless you are of the opinion that people like Benjamin Franklin ultimately had the goal of eradicating the White race. >If you do, you're retarded.
>>35547171capitalists view humans as economic subjects first while ignoring race and culture. that's why capitalists support immigrant invasions and migrant workers as long as they benefit the economy.
>>35547224No, they don't. You are mistakenly viewing Capitalism as some metaphysical philosophy, akin to Liberalism. It is none of those, it is merely an economic system, nothing more.
>>35547276>it's not real capitalism
>>35547401You are definitely fucking retarded.Capitalism is nothing like Marxism in that regard. Marxism is a lot more than an economic system, and one would glean that if they just spent a little time actually reading what Marx wrote (boring as it is). Marxism is also antithetical to the American way. Quit importing Eurofag garbage.
