Show me a shred of evidence that someone with an average male voice could ever voice train to sound passably feminine. Every example of mtf voice training I've seen already had a starting point that naturally sounded more female than male or had extensive music/singing experience so knew how to manipulate their vocal range. It's anatomically impossible for any amab who went through a normal male puberty that didn't already have a fag voice or know how to sing soprano or didn't have all feminine expression beaten out of them.
>>36354357i mean i had an average male voice and have a passing voice now. i did start voice training at 16 though idk if that helped me
https://voca.ro/1d1xY7BPBQtt
>>36354378>https://voca.ro/1d1xY7BPBQttyou were good up til the 5 second mark
>>36354390That was the point
>>36354405ahahaha sure
>>36354408https://voca.ro/198kMsEH3I9k
"you cant train your voice" "some people who trained their voice had musical training so knew how to manipulate their vocal range"if you admit that is possible to do, train to do it, the "musical training to manipulate vocal range" is literally vocal training.
>>36354357I was gonna give my example but my baseline was 150hz, not quite female but high end of male so yea I didn’t start with a full male voiceYou’re also right about musical experience
>>36354378Cute nerd
>>36354433It is almost impossible to learn as an adult with no experience, doubly so when every attempt is just completely dismaying because you can't stand hearing your own voice and it makes you never want to open your mouth again.
https://voca.ro/1gJs5vXQBvs5
>>36354666https://voca.ro/1lRg1eBQTKGm
https://voca.ro/1hVXW6AhyQrIhttps://voca.ro/1hXPlNBdm3DP
>>36354507yeah, dysphoria sucks and makes girlmoding hard because looking in the mirror makes you want to kill yourselfwe all know, we've all been through it. you've just gotta push on through and keep trying
>>36354847>https://voca.ro/1hVXW6AhyQrIThis
>>36354698you don't speak english well enough to even have an opinion, mushmouth
>>36354913I speak english because I wanted to support those who are not sure about voice training.You speak english because you don't know any other language.Rude bitch.
>>36354357https://voca.ro/1cE2oGTnaOmvbefore: https://voca.ro/1gS58G5QovpY