Magical Makeover Edition Post your /x/ tier justification for having agp.>AGP questions and answers>Thoughts and feelings / emotions>Help, advice, guidance>Be cozy and chill out>What is AGP?Autogynephilia, from Greek αὐτό- ("self"), γυνή ("woman") and φιλία ("love")Broadly, arousal to the thought of being a woman. It can take many forms - being aroused at imagining or seeing yourself with a female body, dressing in clothes that make you appear feminine, acting in stereotypical "feminine" ways, or others.>Isn't AGP just discredited pseudoscience?"The 'debunking' of autogynephilia is in good company with the debunking of biological sex and the debunking of natal males’ physical advantage in competitive sport." - Ray Blanchard>I'm AGP, does this mean I'm not trans?No, you can be AGP and trans.>Aren't you all just trannies in denial?Some people with AGP will go on to transition, while others are content with incorporating it into their sex life or simply the occasional indulgence. It varies greatly in intensity. If AGP consumes a lot of your mental energy or causes you lots of distress, it is probably worth asking more questions.Resources:Bibliography of articles written by Ray Blanchard: http://individual.utoronto.ca/ray_blanchard/>Why Gender Matters, the Emerging Science of Sex Differenceshttps://ia802804.us.archive.org/30/items/LeonardSaxWhyGenderMatters/Leonard%20Sax%20-%20Why%20Gender%20Matters.pdf#page171>The Gender Variant Phenomenon:https://www.avitale.com/essays/a-developmental-reviewCompilation of AGP books and studies: https://pastebin.com/dRQvi2K7Previous: >>37197814
>>37285024I wish I was a tradwife
>>37285264elaborate. Why? What benefit? Would you be okay with the downsides?
you nigs always say don't marry and have kids because they might get agp from you but what if you have daughters
>>37285024whats with you and asian women???>>37285840take naltrexone, agp is just a fetish you can unlearn, it can't be passed to children
>>37286259i'm asian
>>37286259>just take drugs
>>37286353i'm sorry to hear that>>37286379yes, have your doctor write you a prescription for a drug that's known for treating addictive behavior sit's not rocket science anon, agp is a choice
>>37285264Post bread you've baked
>/AGPG/>Simp admin lets a cis het woman join>Ends up transferring ownership of the whole server to her>She renames the server to Always Give Praise to God and shills catholicism>Now the chat is straight cis woman bullshitIt's over.
>>37286915and that's a good thing, discussions probably improved 100x over
>>37286710>i'm sorry to hear thatwhy whats your problem
>>37287014asian agps are rarer, you're so unlucky
>>37287005NTA, but yes, it went from people talking about suicide and porn to talks about dates and life improvement. Some long gone people joined back when Emilia came back, so the server is coming back to life.
>>37287236normalfags can fuck off and die. they have places to talk about dates and life improvement its called irl
>>37287196thats not true then again what does it matter it's not like i want to fraternize
>>37287236She deleted the NSFW channels, she's obviously trying to destroy the server.
>>37287300i meant more from the perspective of getting afflicted with this disease, of course no one should want to fraternize with other agpsthough maybe asian agps are more mentally healthy given that there are fewer of them bounce unhealthy ideas off of, case in point from this anon: >>37287236too many agps in a small enough area makes for a toxic environment
>>37287334> no more cummiestime for some: naltrexone> naltrexone naltrexone> naltrexonenaltrexone> naltrexonenaltrexone> naltrexonenaltrexone
>>37287421just seems like they're being r9k nothing toxic specific to agp which itself is just a reaction to the world being the way it is now
>>37287536>r9kincels are like this too, incels wouldn't exist if the internet couldn't bring them together and form an incel cultureit's not agp but agps forming a toxic agp culture
>>37285264>I wish I was a tradwifethere's nothing trad about being a TikTok attention whore anon
>>37285840>don't marry and have kids because they might get agpthat's not what people say.people say the kids might get the tranny gene from you.>but what if you have daughtersthey'll be poonas
>>37287762no, but it's good AGP fodder
>>37287920take naltrexone
>>37285822the downsides are hot
>>37287946naltrexone, fix yourself
>>37287970what does it do
>>37287974curbs addictive behaviors, could be used to turn you off of agp for good if used correctly
>>37288001I don't really mind being AGP
>>37288012you should, you risk gender psychosis and marriage infidelity it's not a good thing
>>37288031>gender psychosisnot a thing lol>marriage infidelityif I get married it will be to a man who likes my AGP
>>37288043> not a thing lolwdym? it's a common prognosis of the disease, or do you mean it won't happen to you?> if I get married it will be to a man who likes my AGPcase in point, gender psychosis is confusing your sexuality alreadyyou're a straight man, you should be planning to get married to a woman, not a man, an agp can't love a man anyway, it's biologically impossible
>>37288075>wdym? it's a common prognosis of the disease, or do you mean it won't happen to you?it's just not a thingI'm a bi tranny, love is love
>>37288086> trannyuh, trannies can't be agp, sorry, pick a different label
>>37286915link?
>>37288109>trannies can't be agp????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>37288255yes, trannies claiming to be agp is like the people who pretend they're ocd or autisticit's like cultural appropriation and mocks our illness
>>37288316do youarehave you by chanceI think that maybe you know what, never mind
>>37286915five upvotes and ill make an agp discord with minimal rules aside from that only men can join
>>37288001>>37287970>>37286710i'll decide after you run it by blanchard
>>37288400maybe we should make matrix server which actually respects your freedoms
Threadly reminder to stock up your hosiery drawer for the coming season! It's our time girlies, slip those pantyhose on and enjoy the attention! Not to mention that lovely sensation.
>>37288332i will also say it convinces agps to give into their gender psychosis when they see cute trannies blossom, thinking they're the same they end up making mistakeswhile "trans" agps rarely ever transition (just see how many are "microdosing", cycling hrt, or taking other drugs to limit the effects of E), some actually go far enough to get real gender dysphoria from what they did to themselves>>37288412blanchard purposefully confused several generations of agps, he can't help us
>>37288400Meh, why not
>>37288436desu i want knee boots
>>37288400>>37288424agps should stop forming groups and reintergrate into society with normal people>Verification not required.
>>37288503le society is quite insufferable too i know this before i accepted my agp
>>37288519it's okay to be a hermit, it's not okay to form groups with other agps in it...unless a woman joins to moderate ig
>>37288581that's hot lol>verification not required
>>37288691i didn't mean it like that loli meant like what that other anon mentioned about that woman who renamed AGPG to "Always Give Praise to God", seems wholesome
>>37288759that's just some disingenuous namefag
>>37288793she doing god's work
I would dislike to have breasts but would love to have this happen to meI am not AGP
>>37288896naaaaaaltrexoooooone nooooooowstop fapping, start living!
>>37288840ackshually agps could be left hand worshipers of the goddess who demands ritual castration and giving up masculinity
if you do it all the time, it stops being fun. you have to save it for once in a blue moon. like maybe you plan to get a room with some guy once a month so you save it for him to make it all the more special.agp is when they get off on getting all dolled up. if you do it all the time you normalize it and it stops being fun.i feel like you guys meme about this shit, but don't understand any of it.
i'll give you one more. a prime example from a celebrity figure:caitlyn jenner.jenner exhibits many of the classical autogyneohillic tendecies. married. had kids. closet case. eventually the compulsion to fulfill the paraphillia spills over and the self seeks to live it in the real world. upon doing so successfully there is a honeymoon phase. caitlyn jenner's woman of the year. but the honeymoon phase is over and you see caitlyn living with the reality and there's pics of her dressed up frumpy or masculine. if you do it all the time, it stops being fun.a transvestic fetishist isn't the same as say a transsexual because a transvestic fetishist exhibits more control as they can cross dress in private comfortably. the transsexuals feel like they need to do so publically to live authentically. basically, they can't live with the lie of crossdressing in private solely so they seek to assimilate into a female social role through medical interventions and social transparency.like: you can't write a washington post slam piece on bruce jenner's secret life if everyone already knows about it.
SOMEONE POST A PICTURE OF EMILIA'S FACE RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!!!!!
>>37289520I don't want it to be fun, I just want it to be my normal life.
>>37289478naltrexone and jesus>>37289520> with some guyyou're not agp, all agps are straight men, also naltrexone >>37289627this is like the binge drinking equivalent of agp, naltrexone >>37289643are you that greek person that chased her away that one time? double dose of naltrexone
>>37289933>are you that greek personNo, I'm a proud American. I'm just curious what she looks like cause I remember her posting here a long time ago
>>37288211This is the link for Emilia's server.https://discord.gg/YwHkfkMSuH
>>37288436the sensation is wonderful, definitely underrated
Is it normal to be overly existentially messed up from aging as an AGP? I hate that I look my age )(30) I wish I looked younger. I hate being a respectable adult in appearance, I want to look like a cute young girl. I am mostly MEF.
>>37291351Seems normal to me. The thing that bothers me most about aging is looking less feminine and disarable it makes me anxious
>>37288436Barefoot supremacy
>>37291292>Ywn have frail elbows like her
>>37285024>hosiery fetish. collects 1000s upon 1000s of cd/transformation/sissy pics. Substitutes themselves, larp or mimic collected pics for hours at end late into nite.Does this addiction sound like agp or can it be cured?
>>37286915LMAO, Emilia's husband probably already cheats on her.
Why is agpg discord being brought up?Active agpg discord members basically all left the board when the gen was pruned systematically in summer of 2021. There is no meaningful tie with this gen anymore, it's all completely insane and shallow creatures over there.Hopefully shamir khs soon.
>>37292389I still post herewish discord drama would stay off 4chan tho
>>37292409What need does the gen fill that the discord doesn't, or vice versa?
>>37292414it's anonymous and open herethat means a lot for the kinds of things that get posted and also for longevity
>>37291292Pantyhose tights feel so good
How do you guys cope with ASE it's literally killing me. All I want to do is lay in bed reading lesbian romance books.
>>37291351>>37291602leave childish thoughts of being young behind and embrace being a manywn experience life as a young woman, ever, it's too latepeople your age are already starting to settle down, you're supposed to be getting married nowonce you make it to the tail-end of 35+, you'll be alone at this rate and a life wasted>>37291749one word, nal - trex - one, it's made for stopping addictions
>>37292939Dysphoria and suicidal thoughts are strong enough not to dwell on that for me.
>>37292359They are childhood friends, seems unlikely
>>37293894The childhood friend always loses...
daydreaming about cutting off my family, moving to Thailand and trooning out using autismbuxx.
>>37293897you don't believe in love anon, i pity you>>37293929take some naltrexone, keep your family, and save your autismbuxx instead of spending it all on expensive hormones and surgeries you don't need
>>37294083Redpill me on naltrexone. Only heard of it for opiate/alcohol addiction.
>>37294137people use it for sex addiction and getting rid of fetishes as well, it's supposed to stop cravings
>>37294137>>37294225forgot picrel
>>37294235Thank you anon.
i started estrogen because i want to have boobsit's not even a fantasy I fap to, really (i don't fap much at all anymore because duh), i just think it'd be attention-grabbing and sorta coolis this too, AGP?
>naltrexone!>naltrexone!>naltrexone!anon. are you fucking retarded? the only thing that works is srs.i get it, you think you know better than the people that have already tried fixing them. you're not.
>>37294249it's based
>>37294254> >naltrexone!> >naltrexone!> >naltrexone!naltrexone!> anon. are you fucking retarded?my motive is trying to correct the misinformation presented by blanchardist agps in pushing transitioning as a treatment for agp, as well as correcting the oversight in blanchard's confusion of agps with trans womennot saying that transition won't help agps too, but under the blanchard framework it is a distinct and likely mutually exclusive phenomenon to transsexualism, and thus agp deserves special attention and alternative treatments(at least until gender psychosis sets in, blanchard should have separated the two)> the only thing that works is srs.hmm, gender psychosis doesn't always progress to pseudo genital dysphoria ime> i get it, you think you know better than the people that have already tried fixing them. you're noti just think some agps can be helped before gender psychosis causes pseudo-dysphoria, basically
>>37294770NTA, but I'm not saying it's a treatment. It's simply an egosyntonic desre, regardless.>blanchard's confusion of agps with trans womenDefine trans women.
>>37289933>you're not agp, all agps are straight menYou do realize that 90% of straight trannies on this board are not HSTS.
>>37294795> NTA, but I'm not saying it's a treatment.like i believe it can sorta help, but it's probably not ideal for manyi see too many agps transitioning to poor mental-health outcomes, or just doing the whole self-id thing while hon-dosing, cycling estrogen, "micro-dosing" i.e. just in all not really transitioning> It's simply an egosyntonic desre, regardless.yes, that's gender psychosis. what E does for AGPs is it curtails their sexual desires, but it doesn't really treat/cure the gender psychosis part, unlike how transitioning may alleviate gender dysphoria for transsexualstreatment of agps in the future should deal with stopping or delaying the onset of gender psychosis to keep them whole, transition is just damage control after that point> Define trans women.natal males presenting with transsexualism, distinct from those with autogynephilic disorder>>37294810being bi and sometimes attracted to women doesn't make you straight, sorry anon
>>37294870>natal males presenting with transsexualism, distinct from those with autogynephilic disorderDefine transsexualism.
>>37294770>correcting the oversight in blanchard's confusion of agps with trans womenAh, I see what you are now. Basically just a Blanchard denier.>>37294870>being bi and sometimes attracted to women doesn't make you straight, sorry anonMy point is that they are not HSTS, which means they are AGP. Almost every tranny in this board who seeks out relationships with men is AGP. Or at least, they are not true HSTS, which implies they are AGP.
>>37294876biological gender conflicting with one's physiology, leading to true gender dysphoriain contrast, agp males only develop distress at their biological sex once gender psychosis sets in (the desire/belief they should be the opposite sex), leading to pseudo-dysphoriamaybe colloquially:transsexualism => woman trapped in a man's bodyautogynephilic disorder => man trapped in a man's body
>>37294960>biological gender conflicting with one's physiologyThis doesn't mean anything.Biological gender is physiology.
>>37294901> Ah, I see what you are now. Basically just a Blanchard denier.I'm affirming blanchard, he agrees that the two are distinct, agps aren't trans> My point is that they are not HSTS, which means they are AGP. Almost every tranny in this board who seeks out relationships with men is AGP. Or at least, they are not true HSTS, which implies they are AGP.your point of distinction is probably only vibes fr, you finding them icky is likely only because you're agp and not hsts (true trans)
>>37295000Nigger what are you talking about, bisexuals can't be HSTS because HSTS comes from extreme homosexuality. Also they do not behave in a feminine way which means they cannot be HSTS, as HSTSs are supposed to be extrinsically fem.Retard.Not even that anon btw
>>37294969> Biological gender is physiology.classic agp talking point to not believe in the reality of genderyou've interacted with transsexuals before, right? haven't you realized how different they are from you? what you're picking up on is the difference in gender, the difference in biology
>>37285024does anyone remember pic related? I really miss her and hope she's ok
>>37295024>not believe in the reality of genderYou pretend to be a Blanchardian and yet you believe in gender nonsense? lmfao.>haven't you realized how different they are from you? I saw two, they were african HSTS, one stabbed the other and she died, over drug money. Prostitutes.I didn't feel that moved by their femaleness desu.
>>37295017> Nigger what are you talking about, bisexuals can't be HSTS because HSTS comes from extreme homosexualitygays sometimes have sex with women for whatever reason, idk whyif you compare life histories you can see they weren't ever straight though
>>37295030I don't. When was she active?
>>37295035> You pretend to be a Blanchardian and yet you believe in gender nonsense? lmfao.if gender isn't real, why do theyfabs exist?> I saw two, they were african HSTS, one stabbed the other and she died, over drug money. Prostitutes.> I didn't feel that moved by their femaleness desu.you would get shanked by a cis female druggie prostitute all the same, living a life of poverty is hard
>>37295102>if gender isn't real, why do theyfabs exist?Ah, ok, I get it, you're trolling.
>>37295116not an argument, answer the question anon
>have literal piles of panties and bras in my closet >spend weekends in sexy lingerie at home >clitty still jumps to attention when i walk by all the lingerie on display in target/walmart >fantasize about “accidentally” bending at the waist to pick something up while in a short skirt i need more slutwear, it’s never enough but god i wish i had a female friend i could slut it up with at clubs and such
Would you want a gf that makes you watch girly entertainment or play shit like dress up games but your wearing chastity the whole time.
>>37295116>>37295146to reiterate my point, agps who transition are basically male theyfabs (theymabs?) in denialmale-to-trans instead of male-to-female like transsexuals
>>37295048years ago now
>>37295623I was there years ago and I don't remember her. That said I wasn't constantly active.
>>37291292Preach it sister. I'm glad more people here seem to be willing to try them!
>another day of browsing panties on ebay at work
>>37296181try naltrexone
>>37296190no i like giving in to my agp
>>37296349sad, well you're at least cd only, right? not a tranny?
>>37296181>on ebayused panties? try Bare Neccessities
>>37296682lol, used panties? seriously? are you two japs?>Verification not required.
>>37296738you are the one looking on Ebay for other peoples' clothing. lol
>>37296756john50, ebay has become a cheap outlet for new goods since decades ago
>>37296756oh i'm not that original anon browsing ebay, i'm the naltrexone anon
Don't die agpg
>>37292939remind yourself that ASE is immoral and perverted and disgusts actual lesbians, then use self-harm to condition yourself out of your fetish
>>37297776Did it work for you?
I wish I could malefail..That I could be seen as feminine and cute by others. So many experience this agape, why can't I? It's been so long on hrt.
>>37297831it worked pretty well, I don't have ASE thoughts anymore.
>>37297871Do you have a bf now ntr
>>37297905no but I've been able to repress the thoughts. my mind instinctively flinches away from them now that I've conditioned myself with pain.
>>37298140I've met a girl that's much like you on tttt. Slightly less self hating tho.
>>37285024See >>37296160
>>37298212well she's probably younger and more passable than I am.
>>37297670it'll die when i tell it to, take naltrexone>>37297856estrogen resistance
I found the most sissifying game in existence
