Is a fulfilling life possible for AGP's with dysphoria? There's no way I can just meta-attraction my way through a relationship with a man and women will mog me simply by virtue of being cis, and most of them hate AGP freaks anyways.
>>37304124unironically i think this is like the real motivating factor for t4t transbianism
>>37304132I would rather kill myself than resort to transbianism
>>37304124This is what you get for not being attracted to men you fucking fetish-brained cunt.
>>37304124What the fuck is even this question.AGP with dysphoria? So what, a trany that wants to off their dick or I do not even know.AGP that does not want to be woman in any shape or form is an oxymoron.Seriously just. I hate that term anyway. It is very incoherent and OP just proved it.
>>37304124There's ugly cis women too. Not everyone can be pretty so just accept it and live your live as best as you can.ajpm
>>37304545:(>>37304566What I meant was to distinguish purely fetishistic autogynephiles who are comfortable with being a man in their daily lives from autogynephiles like me who have actual gender dysphoria>>37304579It's not even that I'm ugly (though I am), its just... Whats the point of even trying? I can't possibly experience real meaningful relationships with a lifelong paraphilia like this. I am far too broken. I will mentally destroy anyone I enter a relationship with.
Damn, that's a big gock.
>>37304605If you can't pass, you will be miserable regardless, sorry. This life is hell.
>>37304605> I meant was to distinguish purely fetishistic autogynephiles who are comfortable with being a man in their daily lives from autogynephiles like me who have actual gender dysphoriaI got news for you. There is no such thing. There is no autogynephile that is comfortable being a man. It is more like their method of coping with their own transgenderism. They most likely choose to behave that way, because they feel that they will never pass. Never be accepted etc. So they have just a little holiday in a form of sexual self expression.The only people that would truly be fine behaving the way you describe, would be the gender-fluid. Maybe non-binary too.If you keep thinking from perspective of outdated studies, you might as well argue that all forms of homosexuality are a fetish. It does make sense from first glance but once you get deeper into the subject, it doesn't.>>37304605I just hate you. Why all of you are so conformist?It will probably take another decade or two to erase fetish label off from transgenders as it did happen with the gays.My advice is, just transition. Go seek people that accept you and try to live.
>>37304646This exactly. I'm always going to be miserable, what point is there in living if I'll just be in constant suffering.>>37304654>because they feel that they will never pass. Never be accepted etc. So they have just a little holiday in a form of sexual self expression.I think this might be true for me. I did experience gender dysphoria prepuberty so I think there is some element of it that is not completely sexual, but my entire life the only way I could express these feelings was in the privacy of my bedroom. I'm horrified because I'm not sure if I can even trust that my feelings are real and not just a result of porn addiction.
>>37304124i really wish this could be me but im taller and wider than most men and iwn be cute even after almost a decade of HRT. this image makes me want to kill myself so bad. literally all i ever wanted was to be a cute girl with a bf. fuck my retarded chungus life
>>37304880same minus the giant visible penis.
>>37305063ironically i have a very small penis. i don't know why god made me so masculine everywhere except the genitals. i think this reality might be purpose-built to torture me
idk how id have a fulfilling life even if i was cis
>>37305116kek, perhaps you were a nazi soldier in a past life
>>37304124Why not just date a man? I’m betting you’ve never actually had a bf.
>>37305897i don't believe in that shit, reincarnation would be far too kind. this is probably the only life i get
>>37305961I have, he was a bpdemon and, worse, a bottom. I wanted him to top me but he refused :(
>>37306114>a bottomso you've never dated a man
>>37306350you know what, fair
How does an agp know they have dysforia
>>37306350pls explain, are all men into trannies bottoms?
>>37307346no, but all bottoms are women
>>37305116small dicks in cute lace panties are so hot
>>37304271you've never been truly lonely with a take like that
>>37304124You can embrace your AGP or get rid of it if you want.
>>37304124>women will mog me simply by virtue of being cis, and most of them hate AGP freaks anywaysThere are butch/masc leaning bisexual top/switch women, maybe that could work for you? Masc presentation could mitigate against your jealousy.
>>37309138Maybe not on a technical level, but I feel like real romantic connection is extremely rare for me. It feels like everytime I date I'm doing it just for the sake of dating and the benefits that come with it, not because I'm experiencing genuine love.>>37309245Please elaborate. Tell me how. Tell me which choice is best for me, too.>>37309638As far as I can tell they don't really exist. Maybe its just because I live in a conservative rural area but everytime I scroll dating apps I never see these masc top women. Whenever I match with someone, it never turns into anything either. Everytime I match with someone we exchange a few texts and then nothing. Radio silence. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I haven't even tried dating lately though, I'm far too neurotic and depressed and I'm not even on hrt either, and no one wants a pre-hrt tranner.