Why do doctors torment intersex people whose bodies don't conform to their endosexist standards?
for the same reason trans people exist, to promote conformity, sex roles, and breeder behavioreither you make kids for the rich to have a well-endowed labor supply - or you get your bits cut off so you don't threaten the others by making it seem like you can have fun without breeding
>>37330926Why do you repeatedly push this easily refuted bullshit? https://interactadvocates.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/LavLaw-Trans-and-Intersex-Fact-Sheet.pdf
>>37330926>Trans people exist to promote conformityUKposter spotted, opinion discarded.Seriously where the fuck do people get these insane ideas? This board is more conformist than most trans spaces and even it has a fuck load of gender non-conforming transexuals (tomboy trans women, femboy/shotamoding trans guys, etc.). Like seriously, see a mental health professional, you're showing signed of psychotic delusions. Your thinking is not grounded in reality or anywhere near it.
what is peer pressure? what is implicit social pressure?>hurr we just do this cuz its built in
>>37330401okay but girls don't need testicles while girls do need boobs
>>37330969There is literally nothing wrong with being a transgender exclusionary radical feminist.Women can't be protected from men, if men in dresses are allowed to self-identify as women based on a verbalized supposed female inner essence that can't and doesn't have to be proven (in your eyes), and may contradict yet supersede male behavior or physical traits
>>37330981Why do you need testicles either?
>>37331024i dont have testicles
>>37330999
>>37330401Minus the delusional bit in the first post, doctors torment intersex people for the same reason they torment and gatekeep trans folks. If a body doesn't wish to conform to the rigid societal binary, they try and force it to. If one is assigned female but starts to develop in such a way that would be contrary to how a doctor thinks someone assigned female should, that would upset that rigid binary and they must stamp it out if they can. To do otherwise might offend the meek sensibilities of the majority who view the binary as almighty, mandated by the heavens, never to be crossed or to have its boundaries blurred.
This board is not a safe space for the british. Bongers should have their internet privileges revoked.
>>37331037Where does a modern bio book say that a bloke in a dress is magically a woman?
>>37330999>verbalized supposed female inner essenceBeing on estrogen*bro made shit up just to get mad at it
>>37331172>estrogen turns a male skeleton into a female skeleton and then nobody can tell you were maleok, sir
>>37331114nobody says that clothes makes you a different gender except right wingers terified of GNC people.
>>37331114Hormone replacement changes gene expression, making cells/tissue act more like if they had XX or XY dependent on hormone being addedhttps://www.the-scientist.com/hormone-therapy-triggers-male-gene-patterns-in-transgender-mens-cells-71014https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220228/Study-shows-the-impact-of-gender-affirming-hormone-therapy-on-epigenetic-signature-of-genes.aspxHomologous structureshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_related_male_and_female_reproductive_organshttps://www.meddean.luc.edu/lumen/meded/grossanatomy/pelvis/homology.htmlhttps://www.maudmedical.com/news/happy-november-from-maudViable eggs from male people, viable sperm from female peoplehttps://theconversation.com/eggs-from-men-sperm-from-women-how-stem-cell-science-may-change-how-we-reproduce-219005Most cis women have Y chromosomes in some cells:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32065627/https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3458919/Trans men grow prostate tissuehttps://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/his.14587https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32282346/https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00345-021-03907-yhttps://genderanalysis.net/2020/10/trans-men-and-transmasculine-people-on-testosterone-can-grow-prostate-tissue/Trans women grow breasts identical to cis women'shttps://genderanalysis.net/resources/studies-on-trans-womens-breast-development/
>>37331206the more links you provide, the more right you are
>>37331114Who the fuck are you, Andy Walker? I bet you eat panack as well.
>>37331220the more links you ignore and dismiss as "clearly fake" the more smarterer you are
>>37331220>ask for arguments>get a shit ton>"wow haha so weird"What did you expect?
>>37331280"uhm i actually meant for you to just state your opinion in an even wordier way and then I'll do the same repeatedly until you leave the thread and nothing has been achieved"
>>37331280arguments provided in your own words are much more compelling>here disprove this huge batch of time-consuming links I have never read myselfis not
>>37331323I did read them. What the fuck are you talking about? And just how "time consuming" can it be? They're online articles. Are you fucking illiterate or something? I'm not asking you to read entire books.
>>37331354ok then explain what your point is and how they prove itgive me like 4 sentences to work with
>>37331202you can declare transhood and dress for it whenever you want, doesn't take hormones or surgery
>>37331381I already did. You see those summaries I placed above the link clusters? Those would be the refutation of your idea that sex can't change and contains no achievable grey area.
>>37331389most people are gonna assume a man who regularly wears female clothing in public is "trans"crossdressing is an essential element
>>37331354They're british, they're certainly media illiterate if not probably actually illiterate.
>>37331394no you didn't you refuse to argue using your own words but want others to waste time reading disinfo shill links
>>37330401because boobies are useful and pretty? aren't the testicles duds anyway?
>>37331416I collected these sources myself and saved them in a notepad to paste when relevant. I did read them, and I've collected them over a number of years.
>>37331448Ok, great, now use your own words to explain what point you hope to prove with them, and how they prove it.
>>37331457You only have so many weeks to live yet you choose to use them posting here.
>>37331457Nta but nobody vows you that this isnt debate class
>>37331457>I refuse to read neither the links nor the summaries and points made in the post itself therefore I'm right
>>37330969what would you expect to people who care this much about 0.5% of the population (0.25 since they never even care abt pooners) just because some journoshitter and glowie told them to? these people develop insane biases against trannies, literally anything normal or well accepted is suddenly a cardinal sin if trannies do it 1/10th as much as the avg person. though here its also a result of moronic cissoids percieving transsexuality as a political statement
>>37331563>I refuse to make arguments in my own words>wahhh why won't people have defensive arguments where they have to disprove claims I won't even directly make myself If you won't use your own words, nobody else will either.
>>37330401god nature essentialists are so *fucking* stupid its unreal. they don't even have any religious excuse, not even the most misinterpreted bible verse supports this. literally making me 9000% pro-trans alone by how retarded they are you're literally getting mad at healthcare for being healthcare and doing its job
>>37330401>>37331445This was my first thought. The intersex person's testicles are non-functioning and always will be for reproduction, and only pose a cancer risk if they stay. All downside, no upside. Cis female breasts function to nurse their children, an upside vs a downside. Its an upside/downside analysis.
>>37331688And what if they develop a male gender identity?You've now castrated a boy at birth.
>>37330962>consentdo trans people consent to being mutilated by puberty?>autonomythis one's good>medical necessitytrendershit>intersex and trans as separate categoriestrendershit trutrannies have intersexed brains. inward and outward intersex are still way different but it's all intersex
>>37331323>arguments provided in your own words are much more compelling>>here disprove this huge batch of time-consuming links I have never read myself>is notcalled it, LITERALLY >>37331298I win teh internets
>>37331704well then they're trans and that means we should have done the opposite of whatever they wanted done anyway so it's all good. if they were truboys they'd have argued with the doctors as babies
>>37331114There's a whole well developed vein of neurological research that has repeatedly shown that trans people have an observable pattern for structural brain differences compared to cis people in the region of the brain that mediates the relationship between the mind, the body and the external world. These differences are direct physical correspondences to the experience of gender identity incongruence.Further, follow up studies show that treating trans people with cross sex HRT physically repairs the parts of the brain where trans people have abnormalities relative to CIS people, and makes their brains like those of cis people in direct proportion to the reduction in reported dysphoria experienced by the trans patients.With the empirical confirmation of gender identity's existence we now have literal brain scan evidence that shows that CIS and trans people are their experienced gender for the same underlying neurological reason. I'm sorry if these modern biological facts make you sad.
>>37331704I don't think castration is really the right term. These are non-functioning, undescended testicles. Left in place, the testes would never descend, the person could develop a male gender identity, but would never masculinize, the testes are inert. It seems you are making a consent argument along the lines of infant circumcision here, but it doesn't make a lot of sense.
>>37331733>>medical necessity>trendershitretard
>>37331114your 40-IQ strawman arguments are cringe and make me just want to ignore youyou're just looking to be a cunt.if you wanted to know the answer to this question you could literally ask chatgpt... a robot knows more than you... just let that sink in.
>>37331193> muh skeletonsso it's just about how people look in the endroflpathetic low IQ behavior
>>37331323>arguments provided in your own words are much more compellingLOWIQSIMPLETONKYS
>>37331591> write me an essay> no i wont read the scientific research that tells me the answers to what i askedliterally kill yourselfi genuinely hope you diei'm so tired of you fucking pseuds invading my space (academia) with your lazy and arrogant retardation
>>37331775they wont even read this or respond
