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>be me cisbian
>dating stealth youngshit mtf who i started dating when i just though she was an autistic lesbian but later she told me she was mtf
>but she's super brainwormed and literally dresses like a boymoder because she's bdd as fuck and thinks that she looks like a crossdresser if she wears anything feminine
>refuses to wear makeup or do nails or anything like that because it makes her feel "artificial"
>avoidant personality disorder and literally never speaks unless spoken to like a battered wife even though her voice passes perfectly
>possibly autism or something like that but she's undiagnosed
>doesn't want me to touch her genitals (which is fine, i'm stone anyway) (even though i do WANT to touch her gock, but i would never tell her that for fear of sounding like a chaser) but also doesn't want me to see her fully naked (as in no underwear) and sometimes she's too anxious and bdd and retarded to be shirtless around me because she thinks she has "conetits" (she doesn't, hers are literally perfect shape just slightly small)
>legitimately doesn't think she looks very much like a woman but that's obviously not true (if you don't believe me, she once told me that she's never been misgendered in her entire life)
>doesn't want to let me peg her (this may be an unreasonable thing to be upset about BUT i really want to, and she tells me that her "prostate is underdeveloped" due to not having male puberty so it wouldn't feel good to her, which seems like BS and i want to try it)
>legitemately doesn't see herself as a woman even though she's been living as one for nearly 10 years
give me actual answers anonnies, how do i deworm her??? she's a keeper (we've been dating for 8 months and it's quite serious) but i really wish she would come out of her shell, it's sad and annoying how brainwormed she is. ACTUAL advice only.
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>>37804207
have an honest genuine conversation with her, help her slowly come out of her shell by taking her on dates where she can get her nails done or wear cute clothes, make sure she knows you love her and just want her to be able to be herself with you
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>>37804233
i have tried to make her not dress and act like a boymoder caricature but she doesn't. one time i spent 200$ on a costume of a genshin impact character (this one, picrel) because i wanted her to wear it while she eats me out and she straight up refused because it was a dress, and i didn't get my money back. she's incredibly stubborn.
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>>37804207
stop gaslighting her and accept she will never pass
or get to the root of whatever deep trauma made her scared of being herself around everyone (herself included)
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>>37804456
she passes perfectly.
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>>37804207
anon i cant really help because im a hon who never experienced love but
please dont say cisbian ever again
and i hope your gf will be the happiest trannie ever
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>>37804751
i need to specify cisbian because "cis lesbian" is wordy and if i say "lesbian" people will think i'm q transbian
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>>37804207
I am a cis lesbian who has also acquired a stunningly beautiful and smart and talented tranny that is extremely wormed and battered. Really you have to get to the root of the problem and act like you are the only person in her life who can give her positive human interaction, because she’s probably starved for the shit to the point of a personality disorder.

I’d say you probably want to work towards getting her SRS because probably a lot of the issues with sex going on here are related to bottom dysphoria.

The “I’m not REALLY a woman” brainworms are a little more intractable, she’d probably inundated with this message from the conservative media news cycle, breeder propaganda, and terminally onlineness. What you need to do is share your experiences of womanhood that she can relate to until she understands that she seems to have a lot of the same trouble other women do.

Ultimately the gameplan should be to support her emotionally while bullying her into being a more functional person, having friends, getting a job, working on her agoraphobia and social problems, etc
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>>37804207
boyremove her by fucking the shit out of her until she has to admit she's fembrained

but in all seriousness, have a convo w her and try to get logical points. it's tough man, gl

t. ftm
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get her drunk
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>>37804778

you mention the "i'm not REALLY a woman" brainworms and yes i would agree, from my observations, these are the most pernicious of her brainworms. for her, i think it mostly stems from bottom dysphoria, bdd and also (and this is just a hunch on my part) but if i'm correct that she has undiagnosed autism, i feel like she thinks she isn't REALLY a woman because she can't relate to the thought processes and experiences of allistic women, but she's brainwormed and undiagnosed so she takes this to mean that she can't relate because she's a man. again, just a hunch. but she totally shuts down whenever i mention it, so idk. i'm not a psychologist nor am i transgender, so my assumptions come from what i know of tranny psychology from this board.

she's a very functional person, just not socially, we both attend an ivy league top 5 college and she's looking at majoring in industrial engineering. she's legitimately a genius, at least i think. she doesn't have a job but it doesn't matter because her parents are insanely rich (i'm talking like 1% rich)

>act like you are the only person in her life who can give her positive human interaction
i'm sure you didn't mean it this way, but this sounds like abuse? it sounds like you're describing isolating your gf from friends & family.
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>>37804863
we do drugs (soft white people durgs like weed and shrooms) all the time, but it's not helpful because even when it seems like we make progress it disappears when she's sober.
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>>37804937
I’m not saying to literally make it the case, just to have empathy for how she might see the world. If she has you in her life that means she probably trusts you some amount, but does she have anyone else like that she sees daily or weekly? My broken bird sure doesn’t. The truth is that it takes a village to save these girls, but they won’t get to that part until they see they aren’t misplacing their trust in humanity. So whatever you do, give the poor girl some attention. Act AS IF you are the sole source of positive attention in her life.
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>>37804991
she has friends, i don't know them well but they aren't close friends, honestly more like study buddies than friends. her relationship with her family is very good, though, and they only live like 30 mins away so she probably sees them like once a week yeah
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>>37804207
boyremoval???
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>>37805048
Hrm maybe a little further along than mine she’s absolutely terrified of people.

Any major barriers to surgery? Does she have insurance? I think that would help her a lot.
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>>37805248
the barriers to surgery is wait time + she insists (i'm assuming you're talking about srs) on going to thai surgeons which is understandable i guess but it complicates things. her family can easily pay out of pocket. she only started the process about a year ago so she has a while to go.
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>>37805434
>youngshit
>parents pay for surgeries
>cis gf
>still nuts
It literally hasn't even begun for me
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>>37805434
Speaking as someone who has known a lot of trans women who were miserable then really started thriving post op, you might just be in for a miserable experience until she has a pussy. Is her family supportive at least? She’s a youngshit so I’d assume.
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>>37805514
yes, very supportive
i of course fully support her getting srs and i agree that it would be beneficial. but at the same time i want to get her to show me her gock before she does that. is that bad? i haven't mentioned it because i know it sounds chaser-y but it's just so enchanting i just wanna look at it.
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>>37804207
This is not reddit. You are not a lesbian if you have any sexual relationships with a trans woman. I am not going to lie like everyone else here and delude you.

You are straight so stop trying to put yourself in places where you don't belong.

Also, I know this is probably a larp with some greasy weird guy making this stuff with his free time. So whatever.
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>>37805537
Never mind I'm not jealous of her having a cis gf anymore
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>>37805537
>it's just so enchanting
please break up before you hurt her
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>>37805537
Tbh the most fembrained way to do it is just to ask her to take a shower together because its cute. You cannot betray any sexual interest in her gock whatsoever, and under no circumstances can you touch or smell it. I understand the temptation, trust me. This is not the easy path. The easy path is to maintain complete separation until its gone.
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>>37805604
i just want to *look* at it, ok? i mean, there's a point where dysphoria starts to become pathological. i understand that she doesn't want me to touch it, but i'm supposed to be the person she trusts more than anyone and she won't show it to me. i don't think that's good or normal. now i wouldn't be upset if i never did, but i would very much like to see it. she tells me that it is very small because she never had male puberty.
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>>37805782
good idea
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>>37806199
weirdo
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>>37806285
imagine yourself in my shoes. i'm very normal
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>>37804751
stfu
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I know this is a larp but giwtwm i wish a cis woman would ask me to dress up in weird cosplay ITS NOT FAIR I HATE BEING A BRICK
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>>37804714
Is she pretty?
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>>37804207
stop asking. just tell her what's gonna happen. boymoders love that shit
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>>37804207
>how do i deworm her
Just as you would a horse, just at a lower dose
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>>37804287
Dump her and peg me instead, ill wear it, to not let your money go to waste. I even have a fully developed prostate.
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>>37804751
Dont tell people how to speak you ugly hon, you're lucky your kind is still alive
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>>37807825
Yesss this. dominate the little bitch boi. She’ll love it
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>>37806650
No you’re like really valid those cute little youngshit gocks are sublime and replete with the grace and splendor of the L-rd. Ah… like a tender bud. Just a clit. Probably smaller than mine. >:) drives me insane that no sane preop youngshit would let me touch her.
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>>37807825
we dooooo
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>>37804207
i hate passoids so fucking much
throw your girlfriend off a cliff
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>>37808913
i'm glad i hate passoids cause i think all hons either hate passoids or are this type of upsetting pervert and i would rather be bad and hateful than be a fucking chaser
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>>37804778
I would break up over being treated like this
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>>37804287
>yae miko
yeah i believe your claims of being a cis lesbian. it's always either her or Keqing with yall
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>>37806199
what is about transgirls that makes people into such massive perverts? You want her to dress up in half-naked cosplay and show off parts of her body she is most ashamed of before crawling between your legs? It's not normal anon you really have to go way slower with her because you are such a huge degenerate...
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>>37809224
did i miss something or did you miss the part where she said they've been dating for eight months lol
like, honestly sounds kinda weird to not have seen your partner naked after almost a year of being together, no matter what. that's around the point where you're supposed to have developed complete trust in your partner.

also question for OP, is she ashamed of showing you herself bc shes ashamed of it *or* because she thinks you'd find it gross? like there's gotta be at least a bit of option two in there. So you could like, try convincing her that you seeing her naked wouldn't make you see her as a gross moid. cause like, i'm pretty sure she's scared of that.
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>>37804207
youngshits come in different flavours anon. when did she start hrt? the thing abt the prostate makes it seem like she started <13, but ppl who start e at those ages don’t typically ever boymode for long periods of time, or even boymode at all (esp considering supportive parents). be fr is this a larp? im sure there is probably some useful advice that could be given to your gf but i truly don’t think she real
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bumping waiting for op to come back
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>>37804207
I got dumped by a cisbian for acting brainwormed that way...
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