With the advent of the latest US elections and the impending theoretical collapse of the traditional HRT market (If republicans take acts to criminalize and ban HRT) I think its prudent to start pooling knowledge on the process of making HRT from RAWs and places to purchase product.Questions to be answered:- How do i purchase RAWs from china?- What should i purchase?- How do i know its safe and pure?- HRT Prep, raws to injectables.- Places to buy Pre-Made Hrt- Will criminalization of traditional product cause famine in the DIY market for months potentially years until stabilization?Im wanting to get into producing my own meds myself cause im scared. Would love help, tips and more for us all.
not in the US but following this thread, i'm already DIY'ing in a conservative part of europe and hoping to become self-sufficient because i know the DIY market is volatile too. actually it would be cool to set up a group if there are other people nearby interested in homebrewing and pooling knowledge and resources together. i'm in central europe.
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>>37887180I’m up for joining that Discord or whatever! I really want to get more self-sufficient too. The whole Project 2025 and the elections make me nervous about what might happen if HRT access gets restricted in the U.S. If the americans do crack down, I feel like the DIY scene could get super intense for a while.I’d totally be into buying a few pounds of raw materials and figuring out how to make our own HRT.
>>37887133Should we really be so open about how to do it though? We shouldn't be giving publicity to it now that the glowtards have us on (((their))) priority list. If you cars enough to know, you'll be able to figure it out on your lonesome.
>>37887289that's my worry too yeah i think people everywhere should stock up or at least be aware that political circumstances can affect our HRT access at any time.>>37887586no we probably shouldn't be discussing it on an open forum and personally i'd rather that the group i mentioned be on an encrypted app like signal rather than discord.
Couple of tips: - Do NOT mention raws sources by name on open internet going forward- If you start a discord server, at minimum require HRT timestamp on entry
>>37887707Also seconding Signal + don't forget to turn disappearing messages on + remember Telegram is now compromised.
>>37887133kill yourself, genuinely, you are an entitled faggotthe US is by far the most progressive on trans issues state in the WORLD. try living here in eastern Europe instead
>>37888640dis
>>37888663the world doesnt revolve around you something bad happened in america regardless of how bad you already had it
>>37888714you deserve it
>>37888885You’re right, that is the stupidest question I’ve ever heard
>>37887133I saw a TikTok ages ago of a girl showing the whole process of turning raws into injectable E. Does anyone have a similar tutorial?
>>37888945Poor hygiene protocol and she eyeballs the measurements visibly incorrectly in the vid itself, do not follow tiktok shorts on making black market pharmaceuticals jesus christ
>>37889040Do you genuinely think you could possibly be referring to the same video as I am? You’re unbelievably retarded.
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good idea
how long do pills last?
>>37890249the classic is injecting alcohol into the scrotum, waiting a bit, & then going to the ER
do I even need to diy if I get injections prescribed right now? if I just don't throw away a vial after 28 days like the manufacturor says to, I'll get a new vial every 28 days but each one will last me almost 6 months.do I have to worry about the estrogen or the oil "going bad"? especially if I have a vial in storage for like 3 years before I use it for the first time?
>>37888640the hrt timestamps should be DURING INJECTION. Anyone can hold a vial, few will stab themselves to get in
>>378919865 years in correct conditions and your vials will be fine. no sunlight, room temperature, dry place (not humid area)
>>37887133are there DIY options for testosterone that doesnt involve injections? i have a major phobia of needles/injections
>>37893481i know homebrew dht gel is doable but not sure if that's used as a general androgen
>>37893481you can get over the phobia, i’ve been where you are and it’s more than possible.
>>37893497i will take literally anything to look more masculine/androgynous>>37893505i've been trying to for years. its fucking terrifying
>>37893550r/estrogeli can help you find sources for dht if necessary but you should be able to do it yaself
>>37893563i appreciate it. i'll look into it more
>>37893481The other anon told you to look into dht gel, but you can also buy raw testosterone powder. It's actually way easier to get raw T domestic from the US so there's less chance of seizure by customs.
>>37887133Does anyone have that google doc on prepping diy hrt?I used to have a copy but lost it. Also rip inhouse pharmacy is already sold outAlso how much should I be worried if live in a blue state like massachussets. >>37892406What if I take pills?
>>37893602i only mentioned DHT gel because i haven't seen non-DHT tgel recipes. but i'm mtf so i don't see much ftm diy stuff
What ester of testosterone is used in gel? Should I use one with a shorter halflife than my current injectable or is it okay to just buy cypionate powder?
rip inhouse pahramacy already appears to be sold out
>>37893622i don't know if we're allowed to post exact recipes here but i have a cheap and easy one for t gel, only 2 ingredients besides the powder
desperate troons scrambling to keep living a lie, kek hopefully after these 4 years this retarded surgery cult will die out another day another real woman W
>>37893710no one asked nigger
>>37893710I don't care about being a "real" woman. I like estrogens effects and have literally no balls anymore so would get osteoperosis and brainfog if I lost my estrogen. This would intern negatively affect my ability to do well in my engineering degree. Plus e makes me prettier
>>37893710as a cis girl what do you think would happen if you saw a tranny
>>37887133>>37893615hrt cafe has like a starter guide that answers some of these questions. It seems a little out of date about estradiol raws. If I have like actual experience in laboratory chemistry I'm wondering if I should do this. It's not like it's hard but I haven't seen a reason to order 100's of dollars of equipment. Unless I was going to sell them and I know nothing about that. anyway if someone makes a diy discord it would be cool
>>37893767>>37893781>>37893786stop interacting with these people, you are going to shit up the thread debating /pol/ brigaders instead of actually sharing useful information on DIY and homebrewing
>>37893786ive seen many! in college. nothing happened! because each and every single one of them was a painfully autistic nerdy teenage boy with greasy unwashed hair, with such self loathing emulating from them that u could tell theyd never approach a girl. i dont think young trannies are dangerous, but what they 100% are is male and porn addicted
>>37893792agreed, just report and ignore trolls and raiders
Is there a recipe for DIY vaginal estrogen cream for FTMs? I'm assuming you can just spatulate the raw in with a paraben-free vitamin E cream base like other genital cream recipes, but is there a specific dosage for treating vaginal atrophy? Going to a doctor for this likely won't be an option eventually.
>>37887133I'm just trying to level-headedly determine what the realistic consequences are going to be. I think we will continue to see restrictions pile up in red states until hrt is almost impossible to receive legitimately there. An outright national ban would, I assume, cause massive shortages but it seems pretty unlikely.
>>37893848the strictest of red states have been trying to pass laws banning transition for adults under 21 to 25 for a few years now. if we do see national bans, it's likely they'll either apply to all under-25s or all ages outright. i think it's also likely we'll see federal laws limiting legal transition, requiring natal sex on ID and birth certificates.
>>37893848Yeah I'm trying to decide If I should DIY stockpile now or wait and see. Because in MA technically gender affirming care is in our constitution but I'm not sure how much that will help if there is a federal ban.
>>37893897if they try to pass bans it's likely it'll take a few months at least, so you'll have time to stockpile last minute. but on the other hand there'll probably be even more demand for raws. if you plan to diy i suggest stockpiling within the next 6-12 months
>>37893897>>37893886A national ban like that will immediately trigger a battle in the courts. Not that I trust that to save us. But it will delay for many months, in the meantime I guess care would be suspended?
>>37893481It’s called being a man and quitting your whining
>>37893912yeah that's my thought is more if the supply and demand gets screwed up. Like I could probably last a month or 2 with no hormones due to being post op but I'd probably be struggling with classes due to brainfog and such
>>37887133what legislation is going to effect hrt and in what jurisdictions? I don't get this panic, the federal government can't manage to control the flow of fentanyl and other hard drugs much less hormones. Cis women get hrt from legit doctors as well. I haven't actually seen anything besides political posturing, maybe some deep south states might put limits on youngshits but overall I don't think hrt is going to change
>>37894187I guess it would be something like all men/amabs are not allowed to be prescribed estrogen (and vice versa for transmen). Federal charges and loss of license for providers that try to evade the law. Yeah there would be some illicit access but would be expensive and difficult to get. Is there any reason why something like that couldn't be passed?
I got prescribed prog by my clinic but they told me to take it orally. should I ignore them and boof it and if I do should I do a different dose? they prescribed 100mg daily
>>37888714>the world doesnt revolve around you>something bad happened in americathe world doesn't revolve around you either
>>37894447micronized prog is designed to not get fucked by your liver on its way through.and also yes you can boof them which is probably the most effective way also.alot of people say they can feel a difference.like its stronger.you will get like random erections again possibly from it. if you are on hrt, and nuked libido.. some of it might activate while on it.like pretty much within some hours.
>>37894511so should I just take the same dose but rectally or a lower dose?
>>37894447oh also. 100-200mg is normal dose.its fine to start on. also if your butt is clean and you are not going to go for a while, boof it. if its a mess, just eat 1. i can feel like a subtle body buzz from it. it is very feint, but is there. its nice. imo.
>>37894527100 is straight. 100-200mg is normal for prog. its okay.boof if your not going to go for a while, and your butt is clean.if not, then just eat it. the micronized is more effective than non micronized prog, orally.do 100mg like they said. its good to start with. https://depts.washington.edu/tgnbhealthprogram/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/TransLine-HRT-Guidelines-FINAL.pdf
ok someone tell me if this is crazycan I game the system here? manipulate my blood tests to get prescribed higher doses than I actually need, and stockpile it for the winter? I'd save a lot paying with insurance and in no time have enough extra to last years
>>37887133>How do i purchase RAWs from china? look online, message sellers>What should i purchase? raw micronized estradiol powder, find CAS online and search with it>How do i know its safe and pure? you dont, you can make a blood test to see if it works and before you take it you can check its melting point to see if it matches what would be expected of estradiol>HRT Prep, raws to injectables. just make transdermal gel, injectables NEED sterility or you will end up with infection. or you can let your skin protect you :)>Will criminalization of traditional product cause famine in the DIY market for months potentially years until stabilization?online yes, offline and locally nomake communities, stockpile raws, support each other if possible>>37891986estrogen unlikely, oil goes bad after a few years>>37894565yes ofc, just take tests a bit later after last doses. people have been doin it for ages
>>37894565imo it is valid to stockpile /diy/ official/prescription route. like in past 2 days i got like $400+ worth of hrt at pharmacy for free.i still have a few months of /diy/ stash also.just helps me feel better.and i have a prescription for the same chemicals my /diy/ are anyway.so it works out.
