Do normie cis gay men and cis lesbians see trans women socially as women, and trans men as men?
>>38044119I don't exactly know how to answer that because I don't exactly know what you mean. If I'm aware that they're trans, I'm aware that they're trans. So I guess I do still see a difference between trans women and cis women, but I don't actually see them as men, I see them as trans womenSocially, yes, I guess I do subconsciously see them more as feminine than masculine
>>38044119I see you as 3rd gender (trans).
>>38044166Do you think they really are the gender they claim to be?
>>38044202Nta but this sentence breaks my brain.
I guess more of a third gender because they always say "I've never been with an ftm before" or whatevr
>>38044202From an outside perspective, it's still hard to fully understand what you mean by "really are." There are differences between trans and cis that I can't make myself deny. I can't make my brain compute gender in the same way some trans people do, to where I would see no difference between a transwoman and a cis woman. I guess if someone passes so well that I have no idea they're trans, then I would have no ideaI respect somebody's wish to be treated and spoken to as they wish, within reason, but I can't unsee what I see or unknow what I know, if that makes sense
>>38044210That categorically, trans women belong authentically to the social group “female”.
>>38044210When you see a trans woman in person, do you, without prompting, perceive them as a female like any other?
>>38044297Nta but am this anon>>38044166>>38044258Simplest answer would be that I actually do perceive them as "female," but not as "female like any other." I perceive them as transwomen, which I subconsciously categorize as much closer to female than male, but still in a distinct category from cis womenIt also depends on the person. Some of you aren't even trying, lol, others really are very feminine in a way that feels authentic
>>38044333either you instantly go “thats a female” when u see them, or u dont
asking ppl on 4chan about normie shit is a fool's errand, ask reddit instead
>>38044412I gave an honest answer
>>38044427You'll never get an honest reply on any topic on Reddit, EVERY response is calculated for upvotes
>>38044119nah i kinda just think of trans women as self hating gay men and trans men as severely mentally ill women desu
>>38044427I guess i mean like if u have normie frens irl, what are they like as gays about trans people.
>>38044119For me, yeah, basically. I'm something of a TIRM, a trans inclusitory radical misogynist. I hate women because they are women. I hate trans women because they are women. Most trans men are completely shit at being men, but they're trying and that's better than being a fucking woman.
>>38044488thanks for your honestyDo you think trans women would be happier accepting being gay men?
>>38044520well, i dont want to try and force anyone to live on my terms, but yeah i guess to me it's kind of like they are saying "i dont like this part of myself and so i am going to pretend that it isnt there by using different words - and i want you to play along with me so that i feel better" if that makes any sensei do not want to stop them from taking hrt, dressing how they want to dress, acting how they want to act etc, and they are all adults and should live however they want
>>38044582Did you feel accepted as gay by others growing up?
>>38044595yes, i am fortunate because i grew up in a very liberal area and my parents are both hippies, so i didnt mind coming out at all and none of my friends really cared or bullied me for it
>>38044691luckyYou probably aren’t a flamer though anyways.
>>38044785yep, i am kind of on the masc end actually being an athlete for most of my lifeeven if we disagree on some things, i support trans rights and want you to be happy anon/anonette, so i hope you have a good night
>>38044805I don’t support trans rights.
>>38044815based
>>38044119As a cis lesbian, I see trans women as superior, fat cocked, goddesses.
>>38046243sus
>>38044805what sport?
My fembf gets dressed up, make up and everything. We fuck like bunnies then we cuddle and he starts to make fun of trannies kek. Both mtf and ftm. It's hilarious. Lights them up for no reason. Tho I think he does it cause people mistake him for a girl all the time. All he wants to do is wear cute clothes in peace i guess.
>>38046948ur dating an egg
