what's the %?

>>38047917
92%

>>38047882
An alarming % of pick me right wing women are also indulging in the same weird humiliation fetish and we all have to put up with it but it’s not as obvious because they can’t get boners.

>>38047882
Impressive, very nice, let’s see cis women’s rates of AGP

>>38047882
i don't want to understand what it means to want to surround yourself with people who obsess with people they'll never meet

and i mean this about the people pictured, their "fans", and the people here itt paying attention to the people in the picture

do yourself a favor and delete social media, especially you OP, whether you're doing this to be inflammatory or you're upset by it... either way you should just do something else

you seem to have internet access, so there's a ton you could be learning right now for free

Good job agp trolls your constant shitposting for 10 years is gonna make people think I get a boner being a disgusting hon when I just want to be invisible

I don't know much tranny politics but she could have taken a moment to separate this from those who suffer from dysphoria

>>38048020
But that's NORMAL. You aren't eugenic. You need to be REMOVED.

>>38047917
like 60-65

>>38048158
they dont care though. even an hsts is an enemy to them.

they geniunely hate you because of bigotry and their desert texts they selectivly adhere to.

you cannot win against them in their current state because they believe that their god hates you and you hate their god.

>>38048164
It's not genetic m8

>>38048158
as if they care

>>38048173
I'm not trans and their God is my God but I'm 99% sure they're angering him through their treatment of trannies. They're just using you as a political scapegoat, distraction porn, realistically trannies are inconsequential and I don't mean that you don't matter as humans. It

I blame contrapoints

Literally nobody outside of terminally online troons knew what autogynephilia was until she brought it up and pushed it into the mainstream.

“Uh but she was actually arguing against it” first off she did it in a super bad way nobody cared about, second it’s the fact she brought it up at all.

It would be like if a 1st grader stood up in class and went “now guys I know there’s a rumor going around that I shit my pants, but please know I didn’t shit my pants. I did not have to go home and change because the smell was so bad.” Like bro NOBODY WAS THINKING YOU SHIT YOUR PANTS UNTIL THAT MOMENT

>>38047882
Cis women have AGP, also btw, if this is the argument then any cis woman who looks in the mirror and thinks "dang I'm kinda cute" is actually not a woman and is just forcing everyone else to go along with the AGP fetish.

>>38047931
Probably accurate desu

>>38048234
>"dang I'm kinda cute"
is not AGP. No woman masturbates to the fact she has tits or gets turned on by her own body in the mirror.

>>38048020
0%, cope

>>38047882
That we have become such a huge boogeyman even in the modern world just proves once and for all that humanity is cooked and will never learn or be good. I am 100% dedicated to the species' extinction from now on. If I ever get a button in front of me that blows up the planet I will click it.

TOTAL HSTS VICTORY

>>38047882
when they outlaw porn we go too, i guess. project 2025 baby

>>38048234
Let me know when your "cis" woman gets a euphoria boner and shows it off to unwitting women in a bathroom somewhere

>>38048281
Terroristic threats and troons, name a more iconic combo

>>38048300
Just leave the shithole called US of A. Republicans can rot there

>>38048364
>motte and bailey

>>38048267
nta, I do that. The girl in the mirror is too hot. Plus, I was excited about getting tits back when I was 10 or so, and touched them so that they would grow faster/more (I believed that it works like that because I was told so).
Nowadays it got a bit old and I started binding them, but I still get off on thinking about myself as a woman/the fact that I have tits.
t. cis f

>>38048543
FtMs don't count.

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You wish to go to the toilet. But Nancy Mace blocks your path. How do you proceed?

As a closeted permarepper AGP, it is fun to watch this. Until I become their target, too.

>>38048267
No but they do get turned on by the fact that their body makes men get boners. That's the whole point of AGP. The woman's femininity and attractiveness plays into her own orgasm almost invariably. This is the reason that women don't want to have sex on their period or if they're overweight or otherwise insecure about their appearance. Women can't cum without feeling attractive and desired.
>>38048364
A. Never happened and
B. Even if it did that's severely autistic

Did you know that when women get aroused they get a hardened clit? And since we've determined that women get aroused by the concept that their body is desired by men, if there was an external phallus or enlarged clit on an otherwise cis woman, yes, she might indeed get a boner while thinking about getting plowed by Chad. Basically the same thing as if a cis women showed her hardened clit off in the bathroom to random strangers. It would never happen and even if it did it would be an isolated incident by a severely mentally handicapped individual.

>>38048557
I'm not a ftm, wtf. I'm a cis female.
And why do they not count anyway?

>>38048583
You mistake your FtM derived feminization fetish for AGP.

>>38048578
Oh BS. You're just a random man sitting in your mom's basement spreading hate I guess

>>38048596
?

>>38048578
AGP is being aroused to being woman withiut any context being necessary. Just being a woman, having female body, wearing female clothes, acting like a woman. Being seen as a woman. Even shit like being pregnant and having a period.

This is not what cis women ever experience. They get off to being desired by someone else, not just to being a woman. It requires a sexual context for them.

>>38048595
I'M NOT FTM
But fine, I'll accept that it's probably not proper cis AGP for whatever reason (can you explain how it's different?)

>>38048624
My AGP is fueled by my attraction to women. I want to look like the girl I am attracted to. It can't exist without it, it's the same impulse, but twisted.

>>38048578
It's crazy that zoomers are growing up in such strictly self-regulating echo chambers that they're unironically claiming cis women get euphoria boners because they're AGP. It's so over lmao

>>38047882
if you people are smart you could use this to spin the narrative that all the bad stuff people blame trannies for are actually the fault of agps, and that trutrans need to be protected from them

>>38048560
thats just creepy. but conservative women will ignore it because it own le trannies

>>38048619
>AGP is being aroused to being woman withiut any context being necessary.
By this definition a very large number of AGP trannies aren't AGP.
As person usual Blanchtards shift the definitions around at will according to what's convenient in the moment.

>>38048673
No, it's the exact definition:

>Autogynephilia is defined as a male's propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought of himself as a female.

No context is necessary.

>>38048655
>I want to look like the girl I am attracted to
Ah, okay I got it. So in short, you want to look like a girl who you're attracted to, but I already look like a girl I am attracted to (I'm not particularly picky with women, so it's not a high bar lol) and I don't see it as me and don't want to. So I guess the difference is that you want this, but I just am like this because I happen to look like this and can't do anything about it currently. Thanks for the explanation.

>>38048680
Then a very large number of AGP trannies aren't AGP, and a great number of sexual fantasies labelled as AGP aren't AGP either. Most AGP trans women have a highly context-based sexuality.
So what category do these trannies who aren't HSTS or AGP fall into?

>>38048693
Are you a lesbian, though?

>>38048665
We’ve been trying but then those same AGPs just shut us down and say we need to stop being truscum or whatever

>>38048699
Why exactly? I said the context is not necessary, not that there can't be any sexual context.

>>38048281

Please shut up with the whole "i hate humanity and myself and want to kill people" BS.

>>38048720
Because for many (in my experience, most) AGP trannies context is necessary. So what is this third category of tranny?

we should have policed harder

>>38048707
I consider myself a bisexual, so no, not a lesbian.
I used to think that I'm a lesbian back when I was younger but then I got a crush on a male and had fantasies about turning him into a girl because he was shorter than me and had small hands and soft looking face and stuff and went "well, I guess I'm bi". And I can interact with men sexually over text as long as I don't see how they actually look like. I have more practical experience with women and a woman has to be exceptionally deformed for me to not find her attractive in any way.tt

>>38048138
You're correct to a point. The very tiny amount of you out there is a nonissue. The very large amount of presence you demand is very much outsized. This goes for all outgroups.

>>38048727
What context is necessary? Like imagining being a hot woman on your own is not arousing?

>>38048774
Yeah, you proved to me attraction to women is required for AGP. Most women don't have that.

>>38048815
>Most women don't have that.
I don't believe that, I think most women are bi. And some are 100% lesbians. But no such a thing as 100% het women.

>>38048774

Taken at face value This seems more like lesbian but could potentially like trans women? If its truly bisexual you seem to be rrepressing some androphilia.

For context I'm a bisexual tranny who leans toward guys but I used to be a bi guy who leaned toward girls. I thought men were disgusting and that I could never be romantically attracted to men and only liked them as a fetish.

But after I actually had sex with men (which didn't happen till my late 20s as I later found out is common for women with autism) this kind of just went away and I started dating them normally-- I had lots of hangups about social role, heavy internalized stigma about being feminine, fear for my safety around men, etc.

>>38048020
Wouldn't that be called autoautogynephilia?

>>38048808
>Like imagining being a hot woman on your own is not arousing?
Correct, and this is true of many AGPs. There needs to be a wider fantasy.

>>38048839
>like trans women?
Indeed, I <3 trannies
>repressing some androphilia
How is it repression if I explicitly said that I'm bi, which implies that I'm into men? lol. A bisexual woman is basically a straight one in practice, ya know.

>>38048563
Sauce?

>>38048903

Okay i guess I misunderstood what you wrote to mean like you were only ever once attracted to a guy in your imagination and he transformed into a she in said fantasy. Plus a few other times in like some chats with faceless strangers

>>38047882
she didn't even define it correctly as defined by Blanchard (pbuh)

>>38048892
What wider fantasy? I think you're just making it up.

>>38047931
*30%
We need to kill only 30% of cis women

>>38049007
Yea, it's a bit difficult for me to explain that shit. Sorry for causing misunderstanding.
I guess the shortest way I can think of:
male genitals = attractive. Women and all their parts = attractive. Male faces if they're androgynous = attractive. Male and male-looking faces if they look undeniable male and have facial hair = fuck no. Male bodies with no ambiguous traits = fuck no. Plus I want a man that would be okay with being treated as a little princess that needs to be protected and spoiled, and fucked in the ass. So yeah, classic female bisexuality.

>>38048774
Sissification fetish
Troons turning men into girldump

>>38049064
Are you tall?
I like being treated like a princess.
But no fucking you have to earn it

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>>38048222
sis i hate to break it to you but this sort of brainrot has been present for DECADES except it's mainstream now because online echo chambers thrive on being controversy and inflammatory theories, and also because there's a billionaire-led agenda being pushed against us. picrel is from a blog post by julia serrano (aka the author of whipping girl - which im sure none of u illiterate morons have read) talking about trannies who insist on themselves being the only true trannies or whatever in 2011 (which isnt very different to the discourse happening on this board in 2024!). this was during obama's FIRST TERM. i was 6 years old at the time and the vast majority of this board probably hadn't even started puberty back then. contra's audience is overwhelmingly comprised of left-leaning queer people and fellow travellers (bc its an echo chamber just like the terf shit) - point is she's not at fault bc the grounds for this sort of movement has been fermenting underground for ages at this point

>>38049037
>YOU'RE LYING
the original blanchtard cope

>>38049064
>I want a man that would be okay with being treated as a little princess that needs to be protected and spoiled, and fucked in the ass
I need you

>>38049094
Why should I believe that claim?

>>38049089
No, I'm short as hell. 5'9''.

>>38049064
Don't lie you aren't bi.
YOU want only femboys either who thinks they are a woman or not.

>>38049101
If you're going to throw out any evidence that could possibly disprove your theory, then it's unfalsifiable and thus unscientific.
Ultimately the only way you can access someone's inner world is by asking them to describe it, so you can't make any claims about people's motivations or sexualities if you think personal testimony isn't valid evidence.

>>38049103
You pass the bere minimum.
Now I need to take yearly dose of hrt in one day.
Otherwise I will not have servant

>>38049112
Fine, a reddit bisexual. Still straight enough to be considered bi. I don't want to be considered a lesbian/pseudo-lesbian.

>>38049101

People are always lying about sexuality AND blanchards theories are not scientific because they are not reproducible.

>>38049120
>Now I need to take yearly dose of hrt in one day.
That doesn't sound safe, buddy.

>>38049096
I thought that people like you only exist in my imagination...

>>38049117
There is not any evidence that majority of AGPs can't get aroused by a fantasy of being a woman regardless of context.

>>38049157
I'd like to talk more with you.

>>38049153
Look chance I will die with someone princess carrying me vs dying alone.

You probably know what I want

>>38049147
not reproducible because no one wants to admit being an agp at a shrink study

>>38049130
No you are straight.
Femboys are men

>>38049172
I guess that's the part where either of us drops their discord, right?
username: deez_nuts3301

>>38048721
It's the only solution. There is no hope for man. We had a good run but I think it's time we accept the L.

>>38049192
Okay, straight it is. Glad we solved it. I'M THE ONLY 100% STRAIGHT WOMAN IN THE WORLD WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>38049196
Sent, I am alex_xxxi

>>38049210
You said you like dicks.
You never mentioned pussy

>>38048708
This is solely because we have yet to come up with a consistent, testable measure for separating the two groups. Shit, even this board can’t come up with a definition of AGP that doesn’t exclude cis women or arbitrarily include them, and we’re the people who think about this shit daily. Come up with a solid model for gender dysphoria and subject trans people to it before recommending social/medical transitioning (i.e. treating GD like the disease it is) and our legitimacy be that much more difficult to attack, but if you won’t agree on something, they will, and we’ll be all the worse for it.

>>38048560
>I cast minor illusion to make it look like a hon just entered
>While she is busy harassing the illusory hon I slip in and use bathroom
>

>>38049229
>You never mentioned pussy
I was trying to imply it there >>38049064 "Women and all their parts'', but I guess that was too vague of a wording. But still, all women are into that, so I'm still as straight as it gets. I haven't properly bothered with labels, so sorry for flipping back an forth with them like that, this shit is too complicated. Should have called myself straight from the start tho and shouldn't have overthought it. Thanks for helping me clarify.

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>>38048815
>lacking key cishet female perspective on the anime website’s faggot board
>”you proved to me attraction to women is required for AGP”

>>38049284
What do you mean, they got the cishet f perspective from the fake bi attention whore?

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>>38049258

>>38049268
Have you heard of intersex women?

>>38049486
Uhh... don't they have vaginas too?

>>38049153
I want to be a femboy not a woman live me alone. Men need to take risks

>>38048275
Half the women I know are constantly taking selfies, theure definetily AGP

>>38049242
you can't test it because it's bullshit anon lmao
blanchard is a retard who sniffs his own farts and his lackeys eat their own shit

>>38049310
You only call jer an attention whore becaude she kicked your ass
Now fuck off back to /pol/

>>38049646
I have to believe you people say this shit in tumblr hugboxes where no one's allowed to criticize you or they get banned, and everyone has to agree with you, but you mistake that with actually being right, so you have no idea how insane what you're saying sounds like to normal people

>>38049706
I called her an attention whore because she said that she's bisexual when she's obviously a straight woman lol. You know the whole stereotype of women calling themselves bi for attention? That literally was that!

>>38049164
its your job to prove the statement youre making using evidence, not our job to prove your moronic double negative question

>>38049184
Youre never going to beat the unfalsifiable label with that atitude

>>38049789
AGP is when male is aroused by imagining himself as female. If you claim there is something more to it, like it needs a specific context, that's your job to prove, not mine.

>>38049696
it may not be AGP/AAP the way Blanchard describes it but there is a clear difference between the brand of trannyism I have encountered (not only with myself but a handful of other trans people as well) where GD is purely a condition of the mind, transitioning is a treatment, and the objective is to have a body that no longer causes conflict with the identity while passing for our social health; and the freaks on this board who make boymoder threads, argue ad nauseam about whether dick pics are malebrained, and only half-ironically talk about getting “boipreggers”.

>>38049854
most of us boymoders pass better than you doebeit. and gender dysphoria is what informs the act.

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>>38047882
Wait a second. So if I'm aroused by myself when I look really masculine and physically get to feel like a man, does this mean I'm forcing women to participate in my fetish by being around them and looking like a man?

This is getting absurd. Sooner or later, I'm just going to be restricted to eating only corn, since eating other foods are racist or offensive or rape. If I eat rice, they're going to accuse me of that being my fetish since it makes me more feminine and also is cultural indoctronation and idealization of asians and also pedophilic since asian women are so small. If I go to the public bathroom and don't make a huge fucking yellow mess that the employee doesn't have to clean up, that's me acting like a woman and thus forcing her to participate in my fetish. If I smile too much because I'm excited about something autistic, that's too feminine. Men are not allowed to express joy, because that makes them appear sort of like women. Smiling men are sorta fuckable by other men. This isn't okay and is forcing women to engage in a man's fetish. Men shouldn't smile. Laughter is okay, but only if it has a short intonation and low gravely voice like an ork. Oh, and don't get me started on crying men. If a man cries, then he needs to be put into PRISON so he's not sexually assaulting women by being within hearing distance of her and he needs to be put on a watch list.

A woman being forced to engage in a man's fetish is obviously not the reason she's getting the ick and posing about it on Twitter. This, of course, is not to mention how it is possible for a woman to be aroused by her own femininity and agp doesn't necessarily mean it was all for a fetish or that it's not a man and in fact is just a freaky woman, in which case the Twitter poster is just being a prude and a terf and possibly a homophobe among other things.

Dang, clown world is the BEST.

>>38049892
>agp doesn't necessarily mean it was all for a fetish
What else?

>>38049712
I havent ever browsed tumblr
There is no meaningful difference between AGP and narcissism, thats all Blanchard did, he redefined narcissim but only for mtfs
You know im right, thats why you have no argument

>>38049804
prove a majority of mtfs are agp

I’ve only experienced “AGP” like 3 or 4 times in my entire 29 years. Once or twice as a young teen experimenting with crossdressing and anal play (all with the raging hormonal cocktail of puberty) and a few times as an adult every time I broke down after a long dry spell and wore a women’s garment for the first time in years or months. A quick erection and then normalcy.

I’ve lived the last two years as a christian girlmoder (pass to 99% of strangers without makeup and a unisex work uniform with a closely-tied ponytail, vs my 3 boymoder coworkers who always get he/him despite obviously being on hormones and obsessively shaving their faces. Point is, I live as a plain and homely woman most of the time) and I barely ever get erections in any context anymore. I can very quickly get one for my partner or if there’s a big thick cock in my face, so it’s not broken from HRT by any means. But no, most real trans women don’t get an erection from looking like a woman or being perceived as one.

I’ve realized that all of my “euphoria boners” were actually twofold: 1st, my teen brain’s attraction to women was being triggered, and 2nd, I felt desirable for men for the first time. I may be bisexual but only men actually turn me on. Either seeing an alpha chad or knowing that he’s scoping me out will bring me to my knees, while the hottest girl could bend over in my face naked, and my first thought would be about her pleasure and self-esteem. This has only become more true since taking HRT. I do believe it can switch your sexuality a bit.

As you can see, I am clearly mentally ill, but not in the creepy AGP fetishist-in-the-next stall way. Mostly I just want to do my quilting and trail-running and live a happy normal life…. And get wrekt and protecc by Chad Chudly

>>38049923
That's not what I claimed or argued here.

>>38047882
how did a group of people that you barely ever see irl become that topic on everyone's mind? they can truly manufacture anything into a major issue

>>38049926
Ok then, prove that anyone experiences AGP

>>38049938
I experience AGP. When I imagine myself as a woman, I get aroused. I have fapped to such fantasies thousands of times.

>>38049941
really might just have everything to do with social roles

>>38049961
What?

>>38049941
Thats not what Blanchard describes as agp

>>38050039
how about you start paying attention to how Jesus describes AGP

>>38050039
AGP - man's propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought or image of himself as a woman.

>>38047917
at least 60-70

>>38048138
>just don't worry about it don't pay attention to these people
are you aware that these two are a highly influential mainstream media host, and a sitting US congresswoman?
hard to ignore when they run shit

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>>38049242
You want two groups? Here saved you time. This is 99.999% accurate and can honestly be measured at the DNA level going by the second measure

I think AGP is real as a fetish but the people that are obsessed with AGPs even if they posture as conservative, they have the fetish too. Sort of like BNWO. And they also get off on speculating if trannies have it, and they especially like to talk about how all trannies are secretly AGP. again like BNWO, they post the same way.
The people talking about how Ethel Cain is secretly AGP are just like the people that talk about how Emma Watson craves BBC.
The shaming and taboo of it is part of the fetish.

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>>38047882
blanchard was a mistake

>>38050097
Literally none of these are good measures for falsification. If you can find exceptions in your dichotomy, it is not a dichotomy.

>>38049712
normal people are wrong about almost everything when they aren't directly punished by physical reality for getting that specific thing wrong.

>>38050294
…including this take!

what a big problem it is that twitter people dislike you, you must be feeling terrible right now

>>38049994
you know social roles in sex? how men are supposed to penetrate, do the work, women are allowed to be penetrated and enjoy.

>>38050328
Sure, but why I want to be a woman outside sexual context too?

>>38050336
almost as if it's not just a sex thing

>>38050443
What is it, then

>>38050473
i guess the social role reason could apply outside of sex too. but i'm not trans so what do i know

>>38048296
as usual

>>38050526
I am not trans either

>>38048440
and go where?

>>38049941
If you have dysphoria and badly want to be a woman, why wouldnt you have fantasies where you are a woman lol

>>38051833
I am pretty sure fantasies happened first.

>>38051844
If youre on hrt rn it clearly was a manifestation of dysphoria, how can you not see it?

Like if a cis woman turned into a man tomorrow, would she now be 'a fetishist' if she still fantasized about being a woman getting fucked by a guy?

>>38051916
I am not on HRT. I think dysphoria comes after those fantasies fuck with your brain.

>Megyn kelly will never sissify you and make fun of your tiny peepee

>>38051925
I think youve expressed some psychological need or issues through the porn you watched. It's taboo and secrecy gave your mind a space for that.

I just wish people would understand that when Megyn says agp, she means much more than you watching a genre of porno

>>38052012
I don't even watch porn.