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>>38510056
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needs bf
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what's the FUCKING point of incubators, human babies are NOT eggs
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>>38512018
sometimes they come out with jaundice.
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Yeah, you already know
I get the dough and it’s never slow (and it's never slow)
Let me know, and if you don’t, it’s whatever, yo
(Pay, pay, pay)
Gotta get it, gotta get, I gotta get it
You gotta spend a lot for this behavior
If it ain’t about a dollar, I’m a holler at you later
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>>38512031
wtf, that's horrible
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Just sucked a nineteen year old boy’s dick and it smelled REALLY bad but in a good way
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it's really foggy out and I wanna go for a drive but my bf's expecting a package today that needs a signature so I can't go out :(
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I moved from my parents house to my bfs house and lived with him for like 4 years . But now I'm all alone and facing living completely alone for the first time in my life and that scares me.
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I miss bucko
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https://youtu.be/FkyQZV3F-KY?si=AgbjcyndgdPy2G5H

Jakub really broke him huh
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>>38512068
How’s it hanging brother?
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stop petting me
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>>38512068
>>38512092
pathetic samefagging and pathetic bragging, hf wasting so much money on bs bro
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>>38512092
>going to coachella
what a fag
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>>38512095
*pets harder*
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>>38512092
Imagine being such a fucking loser that you go to Coachella.
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>>38512099
werent you begging him for help with your third world problems?
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>>38512117
what does that have anything to do with what i said? i have no moral obligations just bc someone was nice to me once
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>>38512092
you made them mad with this one
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>>38510638

Found him.

Igor Oliveira, 31 year old Brazilian photographer.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BftMeU9Ahw1/

No one escapes the long withered skeletal claws of boomer.

I see all.
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>>38512092
>>38512092
>stagecoach
huh you like country musics? I thought it was only your style to dress like so
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>>38512165
>Igor
WHO NAMES THEIR CHILD THIS
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>>38512092
HOW DO YOU WILLINGLY SPEND THIS MUCH MONEY WITHOUT GUILT
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>>38512044
That depends on if he is white.

Not class, not looks, not character, nothing- NOTHING is as important as race.
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>>38512187
Its actually a very noble name from history. The stigma is from those stupid Frankenstein movies.
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>>38512216
Based Jew mad scientist ruining a manly name forever and ever
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>>38512136
i'm just saying your not making yourself look pleasant by utilizing someone for their skills and expertise then turning around to be cunty to them lol but i'm sure someone like you doesn't care
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>>38512199
Someone people here actually have jobs
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>>38512053
omg drunkschizo is back...
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>>38512044
post lips
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are bfs like friends that you f or are they soulmates?
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>>38512299
little bit of both
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>>38512240
>i'm sure someone like you doesn't care
why are you assuming things, i do feel guilt empathy and remorse and i felt guilty abt it and didn t want to do it but i did it exactly bc i felt guilt, a lot of the time when i feel empathy and guilt for the other person, instead of helping them, i would do the opposite and try to hurt them just bc i feel the guilt and empathy, i cannot afford to feel the guilt and empathy anymore, i am traumatized in the way that i was at some point very empathetic and kept offering empathy but people abused it and didn t give any back so i learned empathy = bad so when i will feel the need to be good to others, i either ignore it or i am even malicious instead just out of pure spite, i am actually a good person underneath all of this..
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>>38512092
haha meme

>>38512063
its ok, extra lonely

spamhitler
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>>38512276
But that's a lot of money
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>>38512240
It doesn't matter. If everyone stopped humoring him as some sort of person just because he has internet and treated him like the irrelevant worthless toad he is, people wouldn't be so confused about him. Its just some crippled gypsy spawn that found this place misreading gay general and thinking it had something to do with sex since it realizes no female will go near it. Eventually it will fuck animals or relatives, and probably has already.
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>>38512187
slavs ruined noble Ingvarr
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>>38512310
no sex before marriage
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>>38512341
sex on the first date
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>>38512352
blasphemy!
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>>38512322
Why you niggas pocket watching bucko so hard damn
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>>38512092
might be going to Coachella too, my good friend Sara Landry is playing, I'd like to see fka twigs and kraftwerk too
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Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels.
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>>38512336
why do you hate me so much in particular? do i remind you of someone or maybe do i remind you of yourself and you are projecting?
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>>38512373
>kraftwerk
do they still exist?
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>>38512380
mckill yourself
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>>38512412
bucko?!
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>>38512380
I desperately want to drop 20lbs and slide back into an underweight bmi
but also getting high and eating 20 slices of cheese is so much fun...
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>>38512412
did he say something
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>>38512416
That isn’t bucko
Holy obsession
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>>38512412
*SNIFFS*
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9iCo4wJsnA
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For me? It's 4 or 3.
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>>38512389
uhh yea
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>>38512471
its 1 all the way for me, the innocence and not even the thought of sluttiness going through his head is so pure and cute
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>>38512471
6 is the only one who looks like an adult
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you don't need a beard to look like an adult
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>>38512380
What helped me lose weight was learning to enjoy food without eating too much in terms of calories
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what is even the point of being born ugly when beauty is objective?
if we and our body already know what ugly and what attractive is, why are we even being born ugly, wouldn t just be more advantageous for if you were just born attractive if it makes sense since the brain and dna already know what attractive is, maybe people are still born ugly as a way to bring competition and different traits which might be ugly now but might become 'attractive' in the future if they are more useful?
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Elons been acting so fruity lately
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>>38512499
yes you do
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>>38512499
Disagree
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Has gaygen ever worked out with their dad?
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>>38512299
Its a meaningless term that began as a comical metaphor gays used for special fwb that got twisted into a complete misunderstanding by retards who thought it was a step towards literally imitating straights all the way to marriage because lebians needed to prove something and their lawyer network realized there were gays dull witted enough to take it seriously.

Thusly, the gays with brains no more complete than a teenage girls began, like girls, assuming there were men somewhere who would take care of them in adulthood as a live-in therapist and based their lives around some feminist concept concocted as the next "big thing" that never really took off.

Simultaneously, adding to their frustration into madness, was that to do this, the lobbyists actually getting paid realized they were never going to accomplish this in courts by fighting for freedom of choice. So they took a few exaggerated whimsical studies and decided homosexuality was a quasi congenital handicap deserving of class action status and pity rather than respect....
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>>38512538
ugly jewish rat
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>>38512558


They then proceeded under the banner of science to inform the public that males who ever traded handjobs in band camp had a genetic "defect", tightening the paranoia and shame among normal men, driving them further away from the whole increasingly absurd scene, leaving all the most weak brained identitarian 'gays' wondering where all the 'tops' went after insisting they bear the same label as cocksuckers by playing with the term and context of 'homosexual', coined during 19th century quackery to pathologize "bottoms".

This genetic "mutation", though never actually found, is presumed to produce two pseudo "genders", bottom and top, within gays somehow by ??? reasons, thus giving idiots both the founding lore for troons as well as a basis for the most mentally handicapped 'gays' to continue their dreams of romance, a concept itself invented by men to placate teenage females into housewifery and dupe young males into marriage before wising up.

No previous generation of same sex interested males ever had to bear this insanity, because no previous generation of such males were dumb enough to let man-hating dykes script their ideas for them.
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>>38512555
i've ridden bicycles with him a lot, and unicycles a number of times. i don't go to gyms though or "work out", and my dad does that at his home so we haven't ever done that together
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>>38512471
4 and 6 for me
just got back from therapy
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What does biboomer think about bears, out of curiosity?
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>>38512593
what did you talk abt at therapy shitza? maybe i can treat your mental issues
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>>38512528
I hate how gay culture has become mainstreamed and normie-fied
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>>38512606
gross
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>>38512018
Heat.
Babies are very vulnerable to hypothermia, they have low body mass and can lose heat very rapidly
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>>38512555
yeah i started when i was about 9 or 10
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>>38512611
it was mostly a check in after the psychiatrist visit and concluding our 3 diagnostic sessions, shes gonna refer me to a different psychologist for cbt now, i suffer from anxiety and an unspecified personality disorder
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>>38512472
they must be like 70 years old
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>>38512606
If you wouldn't fuck at least one man in this picture, you're a pedophile
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>>38512643
Do you still take hrt
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>>38512643
>unspecified personality disorder
didn t she tell you or you don t tell us?
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>>38512620
Dean Withers is repulsive but that boy in the middle there has lovely inner thigh meat
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>>38512660
t.bear
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>>38512662
no

>>38512668
my psychiatrist said it's not worth diagnosing rn
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>>38512471
Such a handsome man... 7 all the way.
A man like that would never give me a chance though
>>38512476
Pedo
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>>38512606
This picture made me straight
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>>38512676
i am sorry for you having antisocial personality disorder, i hope you get better soon!
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>>38512709
weird retard
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>>38512709
its for sure bpd
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>>38512723
have you had any borderline moments in the past
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>>38512698
You cannot dislike bears as a gay bottom
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>>38512606
No opinion. Anything that can be said from any view already has been. Its just not on my radar I guess.
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>>38512723
idk, you are either low in some other personality disorder or it is that, they will never diagnose it bc they need criminal record and also bc you will get mad abt it so they will tell you bs like let s not focus on labels and only see what is the best course of action, shit like that
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>>38512750
lame
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>>38512643
CBT isn't indicated for personality disorders yknow
If you actually have BPD you're going to be going through full blown emotional crises every time the therapist slightly challenges you, or after making progress
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>>38512738
yes plus ppl tell me it constantly incl frotty whos bpd himself

>>38512757
no idea what ur trying to say, anyway ppl do not lack empathy for you they lack sympathy because youre pathetic, hostile, arrogant and ungrateful and frankly we couldn't care less about people like you xoxo
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>>38512471
For me, it’s 6
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>>38512783
well its good for anxiety
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>>38512783
i assume the cbt is for anxiety
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>>38512783
i think he wants CBT for the anxiety issues, for BPD you CTB
>>38512796
i still luv you queen <3
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My give-a-fucks are on permanent vacation
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i hate my existence and you don t care
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>>38512000
why are none of the boys wearing pants
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should i see my therapist?
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>>38512299
For accuracy, I feel I should also add that the term "boyfriend" is a sort of moral cope for heterosexuals also.

It was borrowed and re-purposed to normalize the notion of "modern" (c1920 urbanite) females "dating" in place of a chaperoned visit by a suitor calling upon a female in her family home with the eventual goal of marriage, a decision determined by the parents, specifically the father, not left to the wits of a teenage female for planning life.

Like every cultural norm abandoned and replaced by something more exploitable to the temptations of vice, this ultimately became a popularized ritual promoted in the new pop culture of mass media, or film and later television, that assumed the moral restraint of the man and patient tolerance (lazy stupidity) of the father, as well as the virtuous chastity of the female, so that the two could depart unsupervised and the male, the source of funds, competed to win her favor by, of course, spending money, thus a new way to monetize young affection.

Naturally as more and more vice was promoted and tolerated until if finally had to reform law to expand, we arrive at this point where divorce is weaponized for lawyer profits, men pay for porn to avoid incurring any number of criminal liabilities or civil penalties for interacting with female thats encouraged to upgrade after children, in the unlikely event they can afford them or a home to raise them, provided both parents work and leave the children to be raised by state propaganda centers and media, after incurring the debt for a degree needed to pay for the home that will be awarded to the female to begin the process again.
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Something is wrong with me. I'm starting to accept my state in life and it's making the urgency of death less real. I'm going to wake up one day and be 40 and completely pathetic and miserable.
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>>38512998
fuck off, didn't read that shit
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>>38513001
same, you eventually stop caring as much, i still care just not as much
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i love photos of fires theyre so cool
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>>38512998
None of this is a problem, of course, because government and corporates have joined in deciding simple citizens should not have any economic right to reproduce when they can import cheap labor bred abroad and hold their lifetime dream of indoor plumbing hostage for accepting lower pay or terminating their visa. Once they breed locally, the scam is run on the next generation.

Because humans are commodities and deserve no dignity, children, family, intact culture and through law and finance, can be manipulated like sterile livestock for labor by sating them with every vice possible until they expire of preventable causes at exactly the end of their working life.

So says the system; thats the plan for humanity in the future. As in, now.
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>>38513020
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>>38513024
the great helmsman tried to warn us but we were too white to listen
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what are we listening to gg?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT_rS8xu67o
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>>38513020
I prefer photos of impoverished countries
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>>38513048
https://youtu.be/5gLoEBbZNis
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>>38513048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnffv5aNqgw
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i wish i could actually hurt you so much
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>>38513030
What was that bitches problem anyways?
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>>38513088
uhh rape and abuse by her father and brother
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cock and ball torture?
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Please somebody kill me
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>>38513101
cock and ball pamper
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I need to just fucking die right now.
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>>38513106
no, you have to live and suffer
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I'm just so fucking deeply unhappy. If i tell my new therapist I'm going to definitely kill myself will they put me in a place where I can just rot away and die? That seems like an easy way.
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>>38513132
Can we make a suicide pact where we kill each other please? I'm begging you, i just want to go lay and never wake up.
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>>38512685
im just anti-slut, has nothing to do with age
you can tell how gross he has become sexually in the later pics
it doesn't even phase him to show off his body because he has given himself away more than he can county
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>>38513128
do you ever feel the need to take others down with you?
>>38513135
just commit a crime bro and rot there unless you are from USA then nope, bc in USA they rape you there, other countries don t have such a drop the soap gay culture
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>>38513097
Oh. That’s what I remembered from my play through but I didn’t want to make assumptions. Do you know Lacey Games?
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>>38513106
>>38513135
you might feel better if you stop having sex with your fat blob bf
i'd most likely feel like you too if I was having sex with a guy 250lbs+
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>>38513146
you seem sociopathic again, you will feel like shit for a couple of hours, like in the depths of hell and then meh again and more and more sedated high and care less abt stuff as times moves on.. i get it.. i feel sedated as shit and i am still miserable so idk if it ever ends but like i feel better usually after months of having miserable breakdowns like you have now..
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>>38513172
no looks like some tranny shit
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Hello 4chan how is your day going?
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>>38513135
you should dial 988, nyc has a really awesome mobile crisis center that can even show up in person to escort you to emergency services if needed
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>>38513135
It sounds like you could need a hug and a therapist. How is your support network?
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>>38513220
>>>mtgen
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>>38513236
kek
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>>38513202
What horror media do you like?
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>>38513236
nyc also has other awesome stuff like guatemalan thugs in the metro who will set you on fire to death unprompted
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>>38513284
i dont rly like horror at all
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>>38513295
Very boring, anyways.
You should probably check on chasergen they’re talking a lot of shit about you <3
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>>38513295
what has horror ever done to you
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>>38513295
Me neither. makes me scared >_<
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>>38513354
he talked shit abt core thief
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greetings everybody
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>>38512606
I think bears make good friends, they have the best energy, kinda like Santa Claus you know?
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>>38513158
No I'm the only person pathetic who needs to be put down. Everyone is nicer and kinder and more sane than me.
Yes i am in the US.
>>38513177
I stopped over half a year ago. I just want one who takes care of himself. I think my bf is under 250 pounds but high % bodyfat so anything above 190 if you have >15% BF is fat imo. He's about 235 last I heard.
>>38513197
No i have mostly just felt ready to die for a year straight. Although lately it's been more unstable and occasionally just meh. Sometimes I've even not wanted to die in the past day or so which is the most terrifying. The thought of being me but not being able to kill myself is unbearable.
>>38513236
I won't.
>>38513239
I am getting a therapist. No support network. Nobody cares about me at all.
>>38513292
I wish a Mexican would kill me. I need to fucking die now. I'm so sorry if I ever bullied you, please kill me?
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>>38513364
hi
>>38513383
they're cute, i wish any of the food sounded appealing
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>>38513399
Oh im so sorry to hear that. Dont you even have parents or siblings?
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>>38513383
I wouldn't eat any of that...
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>he's a 10 but posts on reddit daily
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I feel so grateful for the friends and family i have
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>>38513383
cute lesbians uwu
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pray for shallo, his family, and others in the Los Angeles and surrounding area
they are dealing with the worst fires they've ever seen
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>>38513437
Good for you anon.
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>>38513220
fuck off xanthippe
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>>38513454
it's shallo's fault for being such a flamer
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>>38513364
Hi.
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>>38513454
Hoping the best for our west coast posters shallo, bucko, straight boi, crsi, beagle if he's visiting a weho bathhouse
may all your family and friends be safe and you see minimum damage to your locales <3
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>>38513453
there were protections before?
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>>38513489
:3
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>>38513399
>I'm so sorry if I ever bullied you
i dont rly care sweetie we all bully one another
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you all deserve to be bullied.
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Did you guys have a lot of female friends in school?
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>>38513574
i went to an all boys school
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>>38513570
I'm gonna bully you instead.
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>>38513574
it was even until university
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>>38513399
>of being me but not being able to kill myself is unbearable.
so i was suicidal for a very long time until a few months ago, i was supposed to kms a few months ago and literally refused to try meds just so i don t turn into a ssri zombie and still have the ability to kms, bc i stil wanted to have that choice, it doesn t matter bc one day my brain just stopped me from feeling suicidal properly to do it so now i am here stuck as a zombie without being able to kms anyway, i hope this doesn t matter to ya bc desu i would have preffered suicide over this bc now i would have been at peace at least..
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>>38513574
No, I don't befriend bottoms
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>>38513574
I kinda did, I liked them but now I'm not sure if it was ever genuine or comphet.
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>>38513583
i have a 7 inch uncut cock you cant bully me
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>>38513587
>this doesn t matter to ya
happen*
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>>38513369
Its a gaydead support group. Its the lowest bar for male-male sexuality possible. And in the endless theme of gays hijacking what words mean to lie about something else, it was a term formerly meaning unshaven muscle-fats to just plain fat. And old. And hairy. Just like how every underweight nerd with a neckbeard is now an "otter" or lardass under 30 is a "chub". It cant be "broken down geriatric", it has to be a "silver fox".

Everything gays say is a fraud meant to re-brand something pathetic as a virtue. Ffs, look at what they reduced the word "top" to.
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>>38513593
You may have a thick, throbbing, luscious monster cock, but I think I can beat your ass anyway.
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>>38513457
Thank you
>>38513459
Who is xanthippe?
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>>38513608
Anon, you're full of bitterness, it's just fat hairy guys chilling in a pool and being happy, go chill in a pool and be happy you massive cunt.
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I just magically added 3,000 words to my thesis because I thought figure legends didn't count but THEY DO COUNT PRAISE THE LOOOOOOOOOORD
This is the best thing to happen to me in weeks and I'm not kidding
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>>38513626
You before yet another rebrand lmao
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>>38513399
what's really going on in your life? your bf doesn't sound that fat, 235lbs on a guy over 6ft isn't that bad
also you're still young that breaking up and starting over isn't going to phase you
this larp doesn't make a lot of sense
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>>38513664
Which would be fine if they werent all united in that pic for the sole purpose of celebrating slovenly lifestyles as attractive.

Its really more of a testament to how the desire for sex will blind gays to any reality whatsoever to persist in some batshit idea as long as it leads to getting off and indulging in delusional self images to excuse it. There are plenty of fat men who realize they want sex with attractive men and go to the gym to lose weight.

Those are decidedly not them. You can be fat and happy but dont make a spectacle of yourself and insist others see it as something it isnt.

See also: troon logic, where feeling fabulous somehow means not looking like a clown
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I need to lick sweaty post workout balls, stat
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>>38513496
it's bad, I have family in LA and they went down to San Diego because the air is so bad...
if you breathe in the air you will end up getting lung problems or lung cancer most likely
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>>38513752
>There are plenty of fat men who realize they want sex with attractive men and go to the gym to lose weight.
Which is fine, being a bear is also fine, I'm a relatively good looking bottom and I'd befriend a bear any day, I find they're overall nice people, and if I get to suck his D then that's good too.
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are you still a proud Democrat?
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>>38513850
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
he's going hard
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>>38513850
im team MAGA!!!
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>>38513850
damn how is straightwheels going to get out? i hope her disability scooter has a rocket
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worst thing is when you have to confront the fact a person is bad and mistreats you and doesn't deserve another chance after another, i rly wanna believe all people are good but they're just not and you cannot grow and flourish among weeds
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>>38513496
a prisongay demino like bucko will profit from a disaster like this lol they'll need new structures built in his area once they clear the ashes
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>>38513744
235 is and 25% body fat is absolutely disgusting. Anything above 195 is clinical obesity so unless you're very lean bigger than that is very fat. Also irs not just that hes fat. And no I am not young/will not be soon and we've been together since 17.
>>38513412
Nope
>>38513587
Not being able to kys sounds excruciating. I'm sorry anon

I really wish I had a gun ready for the next time the feeling strikes so I can put myself down.
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>>38513947
you're only 28... you're younger than shallo, horror, delta,others.. you're still young
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>>38513984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va6e0dqO4dE
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>>38513947
different bmi generator this time?
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>>38513797
>fine
Theres a difference between tolerating others shortcomings and them making it an identity of pride in order to leverage your respect and patience for the unfortunate so they can insist your standards are wrong.

Its a not-that-clever trick of the insane to exploit peoples kindness so they feel emboldened to stop being accountable for known problematic lifestyle decisions and go on offense to claim your refusal to abandon common sense standards means youre the one with a problem deserving of scorn, not them.
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>>38513889
How can you be maga now weren’t you a far leftie?
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>>38513947


what you need is couples therapy I guess
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>>38514068
im a socialist, neither democrats nor republicans are socialist parties so i go by culture and im of the opinion trump is salvation for american culture
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what if delta left because he finally found a bf :<
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Are you being positive today, gaygen?
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>>38514091
but democrats are closer to socialist than republicans no? and maga is anti lgbt while you’re gay? make it make sense
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>>38514113
>maga is anti-lgbt
lol
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>black female Los Angeles mayor cuts $18 million from firefighters
>currently STILL in Africa to celebrate diversity
>lesbian fire chief declares her priority is DEI hiring

>why is our city on fire?
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>Spencer Pratt and Heidi Montag lost their house in the fire, and are absolutely devastated
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>>38514113
wrong and wrong
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>>38514125
>Kristin crowley, the fire chief

wonder if she's related to aleister crowley, seems to be how certain dark groups get their way..
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>>38514130
Poor things will have to live in one of their investment properties until their insurance claim is disbursed. The poor babies.

If any of these rich fucks posting videos of the fires outside their multimillion dollar homes uses the word "homeless" I will do a irl rampage challenge.
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>>38514091
How do you think trump can save American culture?
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>>38514184
by ushering in post-wokeness
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i want a boyfriend who wants to hurt me
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>>38513889
I thought you were European?
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>>38514215
Woman thinking
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>>38514195
Idw post-wokeness, I want unapologetic white supremacist national socialism ending in global empire and dynastic monarchy.
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>>38514229
yeah but im still entitled to an opinion

>>38514240
you sound retarded sweetie
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lol
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>>38514260
You're gay though, so ...
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>>38514260
Can’t really disagree with that sentiment, but you’ll definitely not feel the consequences of anything a retarded U.S president does
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>>38514263
Why don’t they get water from the ocean
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>>38514300
uh yeah no american federal policies have a global impact
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>>38514309
Are you polish?
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this is now a cozy fireplace thread
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>>38514317
duh
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>>38514348
My brother
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>>38514309
I guess, only time will tell. I’m impartial to the world ending I think it would be funny
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>>38514309
So does indian policy why aren’t you obsessed with that?
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is keto good for you?
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>>38514363
Short term
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>>38514360
im not obsessed with anything, india is a shithole and i want it recolonized
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>>38514233
no its not, it's just nice seeing a guy get turned on by having power over me and making me hurt
it's so hypnotic
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>>38514375
Is it true there is rising black population in Poland?
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>>38514386
no
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>>38514375
Indians in the us are more successful than poles in the us
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>>38514331
better stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myUDyraN_R8
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>>38514384
It's very hot if it's a Ukrainian soldier doing it to me
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>>38514392
so what
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>>38514368
why only short term?
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>>38513797
>bottom
thats a position, not identity , tranny
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>>38514445
Mostly sustainability
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>>38514393
all the more reason to live in a van or RV
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>>38514303
Assume you want to keep any vegetation alive and find out what happens if you water a plant with salt water.

It would turn the whole area into a desert, and desalinating the amount needed would take far too long.
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>>38514445
any sort of diet is only good in the short-term
better to stick with the diet you grew up on because your body has become accustomed to it and it's easier to digest than new food groups
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>>38514468
i meaaaaaaan...........
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I am growing weary of this Polish zoomer virgin sodomite squeaking its opinions as though it had thoughts.

As I once had to remind a wench, I care about what goes in your mouth, not what comes out.
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>have sex
>don't like it
>don't have sex
>miss it
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>>38514558
well nothing goes in my mouth
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>>38514568
you dont suck dick?
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>>38513752
>You can be fat and happy but don't look too happy in group photos
what is wrong with you my dude
Like you can taste the bitterness from the screen. Did a bear hurt you?
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>>38514578
not rn
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>>38514510
how would you know ^^ former trooner?
explain to me how u decided to consume estrogen, at what age? u thought u were a woman. desu im not bying the detrans storyline...
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>>38514587
why not?
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>>38514026
The bear body type is an actual body type people are attracted to though, it's not due to some ploy, people are attracted to that, that's why it exists and there's niche for it.
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>>38514580
Its not a random group. Its a groups specifically contrived because they are fat. If it was a few fat guys mixed with others, that would be fine. But its not. Their only point of commonality is exclusively being fat and seeking sex in willful spite of that self imposed handicap.

This doesnt need more elaboration so at this point any further debate or denial is just trolling. Its not that difficult to grasp unless you are deliberately trying to miss the point, just like them.
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>>38514468
I mean, it kinda is an identity.
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>>38514363
no, carbohydrates are the source of sex
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>>38514595
your tone is very pointed rn
i did not think im a woman at any point ill say that much

>>38514603
idk dont wanna sex focusing on me
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>>38514626
>Its a groups specifically contrived because they are fat
And that's a problem because you hate fat people?
You sound like someone without a single friend.
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>>38514587
i think you're ok but how are you even gay if you're not having sex
being gay is a SEXUAL ORIENTATION and you're not having sex so you're just asexual
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>>38514638
have you ever had sex?
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>>38514657
im sexually attracted to men i can abstain from sex for whatever reason dont be dense idiot
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>>38514671
bj/hj
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>>38514682
That doesn’t count
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>>38513608
If you hate fat people just leave them be. You're just the same as a homophobic preacher, but you target the fatties
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>>38514682
with who? youre not into anal?
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>>38514559
>>don't like it
what didn't you like?
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>>38514694
wdym with who lmao
yes i wanna anal i just havent found the right guy

>>38514688
i agree im a virgin
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>>38514630
no, no dude with a penis at 13 goes geee i wanna get fucked up the ass

>>38514638
the question is more like, how do u ignore the sideeffects of exogenous estrogen. eg i consider T at 17, look up that it ruins your hormonal feedback loop and chemically castrates u. decide thats too much for gains. now u sit around in disc and thirsty men say u so fem and cute. where is the estro idea comes from? how do u not realize that its bad. if u still risk it, to what purpose? u dont get anything out of E in disc...
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>>38514673
>i'm sexually attracted to men but am a virgin and haven't ever had sex
this is the main cause for all mental disorders, you not acting on your feelings is being dishonest to yourself, it's a form of self-hatred to not go out of your way to have sex with a man when you claim to be sexually attracted to them, it shouldn't even matter who the man is if you find them attractive, just have sex
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>>38514699
That’s rough buddy, couldn’t be me.
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I am going to source the original meaning of the term homosexual as bottoms only, I am going to cite it, I am going to post it, and I am going to rub your nose in it and cram it into your pea-brained little gay skulls until you choke on it and get it.

You jackholes never know wtf you are talking about and you base your whole worldviews on it and then have the fucking gall to judge others.
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>>38514707
>no, no dude with a penis at 13 goes geee i wanna get fucked up the ass
I did at 15, at 13 I wanted to dress up like a girl, still do.
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>>38514699
who did you suck off? tell us about the guy how did you meet, what was his age, did you like it etc.?
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sisters how do we cope with the rise of the far right in the west and anti-gay sentiment after they finish off the trannies :(
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>>38514729
I'm gay and I'm far right.
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>>38514736
oh so you’re an idiot congrats
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>>38514709
okay shinzo abe

>>38514707
guys calling me cute and fem was before hrt and all the guys that fancied me and i fancied back were surrounding themselves by trannies so i did it too because it felt like the thing to do and i didn't think much about it okay i just didn't rly care and acted empty headed so don't go looking for logic also i had a bf last year im just not dating again until i fix my mental and get in shape
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How many different men have you had sex with since the New Year started?
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>>38514736
Virgin I assume?
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>>38514729
Go to Thailand and train Muai Thai?
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>>38514758
0 and i have a bf
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>>38514752
you're a judgemental piece of shit

>>38514727
its painful for me now i dont wanna talk about it
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>>38514752
I was far right before realizing I'm actually really attracted to men, I'm still far right but less "far" on LGBT now, I'm still ultranationalist, catholic, traditionalist, against degeneracy and all that.
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>>38514773
>its painful for me now i dont wanna talk about it
it was your dad wasnt it? or your uncle?
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>>38514777
Gross
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>>38514771
why didn't you give your bf some new year hole?
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>>38514779
no it was a guy my age i met off discord lol shut up nigga
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>>38514767
I am, wanna take my pink butthole? It's been up for the taking.
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>>38514782
bottoming for him hurts because he's hung
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>>38514723
did u choose the submissive role because u have a small stature or small penis, look girly? or do u think u were always like that?
maybe u observed hot older grown men and could not imagine being the top so u defaulted to bottom?
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i rly fucking hate these thinly veiled fetish posts that use me as spunk material get a fucking life you creepy loser
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>>38514793
so what if it hurts, blue balls hurts more
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>>38514777
>traditionalist, against degeneracy
>Gay
Here's hoping you're just very young naive and in the middle of a larger redemption arc
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>>38514736
they wont spare you for being one of the "good ones"
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>>38514808
everybody has a line for what constitutes degeneracy you do too lol
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>>38514736
And friendless too
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>>38514788
why was it a bad experience?
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>>38514818
Their brains are known to be hollow and filled with maggots.
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>>38514819
the thing is that far right religious zealots believe that anything outside the marriage of a man and a woman is degen and pick me gays arent different to them
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>>38514819
And people with contradictory/conflicting world views are usually troubled by cognitive dissonance and haven't fully come to terms with authenticity
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>>38514824
it was a bad relationship i put in way more than he did
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>>38514801
>did u choose the submissive role because u have a small stature or small penis, look girly? or do u think u were always like that?
No small stature here, but my penis is kinda average bordering on below average, I kinda do look girly, not as much since my beard really grows now, I think I was always a bit like this although I can't remember my early childhood or if there were signs then, I don't observe older grown men with lust, but I'm obsessed with being fucked and sucking and massaging and servicing a really hot dick.
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>>38514791
>I'm a traditionalist
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i'm so tired of people who claim to be gay yet judge other gays for having a sex life
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>>38514849
Who does that except for incel chuds here?
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>>38514848
>Implying it's not possible to be a slut and a traditionalist
Don't ask a catholic priest what he does when no one's looking LOL.
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>>38514841
bottoms always feel that way about every top because they think every thought they feel is putting in effort lol
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>>38514849
renting scorts and bathhouse sex isn't healthy luv
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>>38514820
I have friends, thank you.
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>>38514854
Is that your role model?
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>>38514870
where did you obtain your degree from in what's healthy or not?
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>>38514855
he just didn't care for my love, did not love me back, did not fight for me one bit and treated the whole thing like he's doing me a favor letting me use my mouth as his cum dumpster, my self worth was already nothing and he made me feel like even less
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>>38514872
On discord?
Gay chudlites have no social life
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>>38514830
>the thing is that far right religious zealots believe that anything outside the marriage of a man and a woman is degen and pick me gays arent different to them
I mean, it kinda is, but who really cares nowadays? You can have gay sex and be just as religious, not even the Pope really gives a shit anymore.
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>>38514757
> i just didn't rly care and acted empty headed
im not looking for logic, im looking for reason. i cared about shit and Myself.
why didnt u care? were u depressed? family problems? i see trannies around here being afraid of e, and they say they are trannies. u say u a man/kid who takes e because... men, multiple men?, one specific one? ... fancied u and trannies. and trannies take e and u as a follower take e too? getting and taking e is too much effort not to have thought going through your mind...

spamhitler
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>>38514878
how long was this relationship?
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>>38514879
IRL, I still keep contact with some friends from school and I have some friends from the local parish.
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>>38514880
>You can have gay sex and be just as religious
You can be a serial killer and be just as religious too
It just makes you a hypocrite and a phony
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>>38514877
a sex ed class in georgetown
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>>38514690
This is exactly how it works.

Fat people gather specifically because they are fat.

And then when you unironically call them fat, there is something morally or logically wrong with you for not applauding their achievement of doing nothing but abandoning any shame. And now instead of the lardasses being ashamed of their sloth and gluttony, the person pointing out the obvious is the one being shamed for not playing along.

In conclusion, go fuck yourselves, fatties.
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>>38514899
Do you think being gay is as bad as being a serial killer??? And I'm the bigot???
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>>38514881
uh its easier than getting weed and getting weed is pretty easy, it just kinda fell into place idk what to tell you

>>38514889
few months
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>>38514893
>Closeted to his church friends
They wouldn't be your friends if they knew the true you, so they're not really your friends.
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I had group sex once at a fraternity party and it was fun..we all were around the same age though.
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>>38514914
No, I think being gay and calling yourself traditionalist, against degeneracy, or religious, is as bad as being a serial killer.
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>>38514916
I can't teach catechesis in good conscience anymore, they don't really need to know about these things, I'm thinking of shifting my religious practice to art and charity.
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>>38514915
>a few months

love takes time, anyone says they fell in love after the first date, a few weeks, or a few months is a liar
no one really loves each other until around the year mark happens, it takes about 12 months to truly get to that level with anyone
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>>38514930
Do you have brain damage?
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>>38514930
trump won stop being a retarded lib already
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>>38514905
Making fun of other people you perceive as lesser won't fill that gaping hole of insecurity you call a soul.
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>>38514940
yah okay but he said he's in love with his new gf pretty much right away so
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>>38514791
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>>38514880
holy shit, if you are gonna be far-right and religious at least put your heart on it and act like you really believe on those ideals (aka stop doing gay shit or you go to hell for sodomy)
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>>38514938
>they don't really need to know
Said the virgin, friendless traditional conservative gay.
I'll pray for your redemption arc
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>>38514845
when ur young and jerking off, your Natural instrinct is to thrust forward with your spear and penetrate someone elses ass, even if u are in girl cloths. how do u drop that and at what point?
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>>38514954
he was straight
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>>38514954
you were seeing a bisexual? and then you're surprised he was a terrible person?
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>>38514956
What part of phony hypocrite you don't understand?
To be fair that's a prerequisite for being religious
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>>38514961
>how do u drop that and at what point?
IDK, when you realize getting penetrated yourself is a possibility too???
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>>38514944
and know he is going batshit wanting to annex canada and greenland
there is a high chance that right-wing circles are plotting some sort of takeover and create an authoritarian oligarchy like putin's russia
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>>38514970
no by girl i mean tranny
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>>38514943
You're the one who's caught up in cognitive dissonance, one part of your brain believes one thing, and all the other parts of your soul scream in the opposite direction.
You're damaged by religious indoctrination.
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>>38514981
conspiracy brain pls go touch grass
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>>38514915
>weed
were u a druggie loser with long unkempt hair?
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>>38514991
>>38514991
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>>38514956
I'm not gonna stop doing gay shit, I'm gonna go to mass, I'm gonna be ultranationalist, I'm gonna be in favor of traditional art and aesthetics, and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>38514990
no i dont do weed why are you so esl
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>>38514916
Yes, he must come out to them. Broken family relationship, friendships, religion, safety- NOTHING must come before public allegiance to our way of life.

GOOBLE GOBBLE
GOOBLE GOBBLE

>propagandize children
>convince people to abandon family and friends over snowflake status
>promise eternal paradise in the form of endless sex that is in fact mostly a drug fueled decade that cripples any recovery later for a chance at normal life
>and with nowhere to go you will remain with us so we can taunt you until dead

>why do you call them a cult?
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>>38514988
elon supporting far right parties on germany and france, wanting the resources of greenland and being in bed with putin is not enough?
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>>38514987
My nigga, you think that murdering people is the same as being against your beliefs.
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>>38514944
So what, this has nothing to do with trump.
You're still going to church surrounding yourself with people who would hate the true you, and then you hide in the closet, come to shitpost in gay spaces and has the nerve to call yourself a traditionalist.
The truest of traditions: being a closeted religious fag with no real friends
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>>38514997
maybe we cant, but an actual pro-religious right wing government would if they catch you doing it
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>>38514997
>I'm going to keep being a phony hypocrite
sad. No bf for you.
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>>38515004
I am basically out, I don't really care all that much about the perceived contradiction.
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>>38515009
That was obviously a joke that went over your head.
You're still bad for being gay and conservative, though.
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>>38515014
I'm gonna be the pro-religious right wing government, I have political aspirations.
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>>38515004
>he must come out
Never said he must. All I said is that his church friends aren't real friends, the same way that a gay conservative is not a real conservative.
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>>38515004
>>propagandize children
That's church, no?
The same place that convinced a gay anon that he must upheld tradition, even if it's the tradition of cursing gays
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>>38514945
I didnt make fun of them. I said they are fat and shameless, which they are, and the asshole wanted to fight about it I am done hearing arguments about why I am bad for not applauding fat people for being fat when they themselves have made it the point of their identity and expect people to respect their decision to eat and sit.

And yes, I realize youre all trolls fishing for yous.
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>>38515004
>>propagandize children
This person was taken to church as a child and can't see the irony
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>>38515015
No, I'm gonna get my bf and you'll seethe a whole lot, I'm gonna make sure to come back here and rub it in your face.
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>>38515028
Except for your church "friends" who wouldn't be your friends if they knew.
You not caring is part of the problem. I hope you mature as you grow older and you grow past religious indoctrination.
Otherwise you'll be bfless and friendless forever
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>>38515069
and your church will marry you both......?
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>>38515052
>The same place that convinced a gay anon that he must upheld tradition, even if it's the tradition of cursing gays
I try not to, in fact, I'd say that my local parish gave me the courage to be honest with myself, my traditionalism doesn't come from the parish, never did, it comes from my own convictions about certain ideals.
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>>38515004
>>propagandize children
>>promise eternal paradise
Always funny seeing conservatives accusing others of what they're guilty. Every accusation is a confession in disguise.
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>>38515037
They will dig through your files and ditch you the moment they found the gay porn.
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>>38515089
And then you remember I am neither heterosexual nor theist and your whole shit falls apart.
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>>38515057
>Why am I bad for being a bully?
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>>38515109
Not really.
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>>38515150
dude actual right wing religious conservatards legit dont like homosexuality, get that in your fucking brain
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>>38515075
No, and I don't need it to, religious marriage is between a man and a woman, civil unions are enough.
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>>38515069
>I'm gonna get my bf
How? Your only friends are church nuts who don't know you're gay and will ditch you the moment they found out
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>>38515164
I am an actual right wing religious conservative myself, if anyone threatens me he's gonna end up in a bad place, I'm not afraid of violence at all.
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>>38515069
You think I don't want you to get a bf?
That would be the best thing that happened to you, and you know why?
The moment you try to introduce your bf to your church life and conservative acquaintances, they will shun you at best, or try to separate you two at worst.
This will be a defining experience. If that doesn't drop the conservative gay act, nothing will.
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>>38515185
You're not an "actual", you are a fake right wing religious conservative.
That's why you're here seeking the company of other LGBT people, because you know very well you'll be far from welcome in actual conservative environments.
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>>38515166
Imagine willingly going to a place to be treated as a second class citizen.
The power of childhood religious indoctrination, the scars are palpable
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>>38515185
>if anyone threatens me he's gonna end up in a bad place, I'm not afraid of violence at all.
you dont get that a government that is religious and conservative will start promoting social persecution to minorities they demn undesirable including homosexuals, it will not be just one perosn but a whole witch hunt campaign like in uganda with the kill the gays bill
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>>38515217
I don't feel unwelcome though.
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>>38515076
>my traditionalism doesn't come from the parish, never did, it comes from my own convictions
And where these convictions came from?
Oh would you look at that... From a lifetime of religious upbringing
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>>38515245
Plenty of conservative government have come and gone and it hasn't happened yet.
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>>38515255
because you are not out
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>>38515255
>In the closet at church
Try bringing your bf and see how well you two are received
Oh wait, you don't have one. I wonder if that has anything to do with the glaring cognitive dissonance in your brain
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>>38515269
I am to my family, soon enough I'll be to more people, if it comes to it, I don't really care about judgement though, I have been judged my whole life even by non-religious people.
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>>38515255
Because they don't know you're gay lmao
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>>38515289
Oh, I'm sure they have suspected it, everyone has suspected I'm gay.
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>>38515288
>Soon I'll be to more people
And soon you will find out how much the actual conservatives like some traditional gay
Don't forget to take your boyfriend with you
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>>38515299
You haven't come out. Suspicion means nothing. Conservative people love blinding themselves to obviously gay men specially if he's on the route to ex gay, which is precisely what people in your church expect from you.
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>>38515299
When you come out you see with your own eyes how it will change
And if that's not enough to kick the bucket, then you might just end up like those "my husband is not gay" Mormon couples.
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>>38515304
>Don't forget to take your boyfriend with you
If he wanted to, no problem there, literally no one's gonna stop anyone from going to mass.
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>>38515346
>literally no one's gonna stop anyone from going to mass.
If you go to mass handing your bf's hand, they will 100% stop you.
You're only welcome as long as your gayness stays outside
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>>38515365
Mass is a moment of worship and reverence, not being lovey dovey with your partner, I don't like it when straight people act that way either.
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>>38515346
>no problem
For you, lmao. I assure you the people there will have a problem with it, specially the ones you call "friends" despite not trusting them with your authenticity. You'll see the true measure of their friendship.
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My ex convinced me to go to church with him one day
It did not end well
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>>38515387
the thing is that a straight couple wont be seen as degenerate perverts that need to repent so nobody will blink an eye to them for being "normal"
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>>38515396
What happened?
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>>38515387
It's not about what you like. The matter of the fact is
If a straight couple hold hands in church, there will be a reaction
But if you hold your bf's hand at church, the reaction will be completely different in every way.
It would shatter all your illusions of being welcome to church, and that's probably why you'll never do it.
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>>38515392
If they don't like me after that there's nothing I can do about it, but no one's gonna bar me from my faith and my political views, no one, and certainly not from my sexuality either.
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>>38515387
A straight couple will never be asked to leave mass for holding hands.
You and your bf will.
You can deal with that in the same way you deal with being gay and conservative: by not thinking about it
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Mass is supposed to be for priests to cruise for 8 year old boys, NOT gay hand holding in the pews!
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>>38515440
>If they don't like me after
>If
You're in for surprise
>There's nothing I can do
Yes there is. You can leave abrahamic cults behind and seek the company of others, which is exactly what you come here for.
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>>38515440
>no one's gonna bar me from my faith
Yes they will, lmao. You can choose to remain faithful after being bashed, but you will 100% be stopped from attending most churches for holding your bf's hand.
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>>38515440
why you want to be part of a faith that condemns homosexuality? thats literally the reason why they wont like you if you came out
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>>38515505
Catholicism doesn't condemn homosexual attraction itself, but it does condemn homosexual acts, and in some cases I think it's right in that regard, but not overall, and I don't think much of it.
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>>38515541
so you admit that you ignore the parts that you dont like or gives you inner conflict?
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>>38515488
>but you will 100% be stopped from attending most churches for holding your bf's hand.
I don't know about that, not in my country at least, latin american catholicism is different maybe? I think I've seen some LGBT couples at church, or at least, they sure looked like it.
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>>38515414
I held his hand. The people kept staring at us with that deer in the headlights look, and the pastor turned the sermon into full blown "gays will go to hell". People kept turning their heads and giving us this 1000 yard stare. When it was finally over, a group of people from the congregation and the pastor cornered us said they wanted to talk to us separately, in private, but I refused and said that whatever he had to say, he could say it right there to the both of us.
He basically doubled down on the anti gay sermon and then he started beating around the bush like proselytizers usually do, to say that if we wanted to keep going to his church, we couldn't hold hands, sit too close or be together like a couple.
My poor ex cried like a baby afterwards but it was good, he never went to church again.
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>>38515549
I try not to, but there's no problem if I do, I already stopped really caring about masturbation too, none of these things is what's gonna matter in the end, charity is.
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>>38515561
>I don't know about that
Because you're closeted and never did that, lmao.
Go on. Do the test. See it for yourself.
>At least they looked like
Oh so you weren't sure because they didn't hold hands or made it clear? Almost like they had to give the benefit of the doubt and stay in the closet, even if it's a transparent closet, to escape ostracism?
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>>38515583
What denomination?
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>>38515589
im pretty sure the bible is pretty harsh on sexual purity so ignoring that part will indeed matter if that desert semitic mythology turns out to be true
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>>38515541
>in some cases I think it's right in that regard
In what cases?
>I don't think much about the fact that my church condemns me
Yes it's called cognitive dissonance. That's why you don't feel affected by the homophobia in your church: you simply ignore it.
Try ignoring it when you go to mass with holding your bf's hand. Please do it. Just once.
It will be the antidote to your indoctrination.
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>>38515606
>Go on. Do the test. See it for yourself.
Going to mass isn't a test, if my partner wants to do it, then we can do it, but I don't think mass is the place to try anything, you go to worship and reverence God.
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>>38515589
>I try not to
You mean you try not to ignore the fact that your religion condemns your future gay relationships?
Do you think that's healthy?
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>>38515625
In the part that talks about the final judgment, there's nothing about sex or whatever there, and it's Jesus himself talking, so it's authoritative, what matters in the end is charity.
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>>38515625
It's Matthew 25:31.
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>>38515634
>Dodging
Oh please stop being disingenuous. We aren't talking about how you feel about mass.
You said your church wouldn't stop you from attending for holding your bf's hand. I say with 100% certainty they will.
Let's be honest, you're the guy who ignores the parts of your religion that conflict with your sexuality. You're never going to do that test because you know what's gonna happen and you don't want to see it. You don't want a definitive proof that your church rejects you.
But the fact remains: if you did that, they would reject you and your bf.
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>>38515686
Jesus says we should love our enemies though, even if they hated me, I would try not to hate them, I'm kinda tired of hating.
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>>38515651
And all the other verses condemning homosexuality simply don't matter?
I love your relativism and breaking down of scripture, because that's the first step in the road to freedom.
If you can rationalize in your brain that bible verse nº 466364 is unimportant and can be ignored, that's just a few miles away from invalidating the whole thing altogether.
So congrats on the path to apostasy
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>>38515710
and the fact that you are gay automatically turns you into an enemy for the far right christians
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>>38515719
Let he that is blameless cast the first stone:)
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>>38515611
Does it really matter? Is there any church in your city that would have acted differently? I doubt it. Some churches would be even worse
I've heard from gay couples in protestant churches who were tricked by their parents into going to mass only to be ambushed by an intervention/exorcism
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>>38515719
>And all the other verses condemning homosexuality simply don't matter?
Maybe they do or they don't, does the old testament matter or not? There are some who'd say it matters just as much as the new testament, nobody knows God's mind, but we can interpret and infer, my interpretation is that it's not the most important thing.
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>>38515738
Far right Christians in 2025? Not in America. The majority of 'far right Christians' are supporters of Israel, the gayest country in the world, and you sound like you're conflating the current year with a time before many of us were born.
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>>38515755
The Church has a code of laws, that exorcism would have been completely illegal and warranted a canonical process, the Vatican can take some of these things very seriously, but most people don't know enough to care.
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>>38515744
And homos will not inherit the kingdom of heaven
We already know how you deal with the verses you don't like, you ignore them. This isn't about that.
It's about the reaction of your church and its members if you were openly gay and brought your bf to mass holding his hand.
A reaction that would not be experienced by any straight couple, even if they were unmarried or having an affair
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>>38515771
the thing is that far right christians seem to have a consensus on what to believe and practice regarding gender and sexuality and if they take over a government they will in fact legislate against gays you fucking moron
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>>38515710
>tired of hating
>Is part of the religion that says whoever doesn't believe will burn
>Conservative and traditionalist and right wing
If you really were tired of hate, you would try Buddhism.
Fact is, you hate the gay within. That's why you go to church and don't have a bf.
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>>38515825
I no longer hate the gay within, I don't want to hate anymore.
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>>38515771
>Maybe they do or they don't
Love the fence sitting, it's like you trying so hard not to say that your religion hates what you are.
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>>38515817
Depends on the denomination.
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>>38515771
>my interpretation is that it's not the most important
Most important? Your interpretation is that these verses are not important at all since you completely ignore them.
Like I said, congratulations on dismissing the bible. That's how apostasy is born, and it precedes freedom
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>>38515847
francoist spain, fascist italy and salazar's portugal were catholic,
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>>38515771
>nobody knows God's mind
>Goes to a church to be told what god likes
I never expected consistency from someone struggling with cognitive dissonance: it is the inconsistency manifest
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>>38515847
and are the most ultra conservative denominations that are into dominion theology or any form to be in government as a pseudo-theocracy
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>>38515858
I was atheist for a much longer time than I have been religious, there's nothing in atheism.
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>>38515797
>exorcising gays: bad
>Telling they're going to hell: cool
All and all, your church would still kick you out if you held your bf's hand, but it wouldn't do the same to any other straight couple holding hands.
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>>38515802
If the discussion is centered around the Catholic church, they don't even excommunicate priests who rape boys so idk where you're getting your opinions from. You sound like you have a very hard fixed bias that isn't based in reality..
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>>38515863
They were great regimes for what they were, modern far-right neo conservatism is much more unhinged than fascism ever was.
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>>38515876
czech republic is 80% atheist and is more devoloped and accepting of gay people compared to 90% catholic poland, also a slightly higher total fertility rate
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>>38515835
>no longer hate the gay within
>Still closeted
>Still going to church
>Still a "traditionalist conservative"
Anon I applaud your initiative, I think you don't want to hate the gay within any longer
Going to church isn't helping with that, in fact it makes it worse.
To cope, you have to completely ignore 100% of what your church and the bible has to say about sex.
You are still hating the gay within but there's hope, far away from the cross.
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>>38515876
You don't have to lie, which is also a sin.
You were raised into the faith and the faith has their claws on you like every other abusive relationship
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>>38515888
I'm not quite sure kicking out a gay couple from the church is canonically acceptable either, I'd have to read through it or look more into it.
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>>38515943
I was not raised in the faith, I've spent the great majority of my youth away from the Church.
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>>38515909
I forgot to mention that catholic conservatives in poland wanted to create lgbt-free areas
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>>38515993
Polish catholics are not representative of catholicism, either way, what they want and what the actual church authorities want are two very different things.
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>>38515958
Your mother literally taught you to pray and took you to church as a little child. That's the source of all your conservatism. That's the source of your internalized homophobia and self hatred. It's why you are still closeted and why your friends don't know your true self, and why ou still go to a place that rejects you
Lying to defend the cult only shows how deeply they've got you. The same cult that taught you to hate yourself.
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>>38516025
>No true Scotsman
Fallacies are for those who are wrong. The polish catholics are more catholic than you who ignores 100% of the bible's teachings on sex
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>>38516027
School and my peers taught me to hate myself much more than the church ever did, the church actually didn't do any of that at all, at least not to me.
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>>38516040
There are people who think they're more catholic than the Pope himself, doesn't mean they really are, there is no single way to be catholic.
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>>38516040
funny how he didnt adress >>38515909
I mentioned also fertily rates because of how far rightards are usually fixated on race so an atheist white country having higher births per woman than a catholic one just doesnt feel right to their worldview
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>>38516072
>there is no single way to be catholic
but there is tho, then what is the whole scripture, rituals and canon lore for?
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>>38516096
You can follow your conscience and you can think for yourself in catholicism, there actually a whole lot of leeway in that regard.
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>>38516136
but n conservative catholicism, the emphasis is often on following church teachings and authority, which can make it seem like personal conscience and independent thinking are not fully supported. while the church seems to acknowledges the importance of conscience,the strict adherence to doctrine required in traditional catholicism can individual interpretation and beliefs. which can create a tension between following ones own conscience and aligning with the church's teachings (aka sex is only for a married man and woman)
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>>38515944
It's hilarious, even as you try to defend the cult, you can't completely rule out the idea that kicking gays out is canonically right because you know it might as well be, so you give them the benefit of the doubt.
People like you, proselytizers and preachers, talk in circles to avoid addressing the main point: the gay couple was only accepted inside the church if they did not present as a gay couple in any way, even holding hands.
The message is very clear. You can go inside the church if you leave the gay outside.
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>>38516216
My traditionalism has certainly shifted as time went on, it's not much doctrinal now, but more artistic and aesthetic in a way.
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>>38516072
>there is no single way to be catholic.
I'll tell you, people who are following the bibles teachings on sex are more catholic than you, who completely ignores it.
There's more than one way to be catholic but there's also several ways to not being one, and being in a homosexual relationship is one of those.
>Affirming his catholicism by how much he ignores the bible
A phony.
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>>38516241
so you are only in because muh pretty looks? lmao
real tradcaths will eat you if they had total control
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>>38516259
I'm quite sure I'm more deranged and capable of violence than anyone around me.
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>>38516241
So it's not traditionalism at all in any meaningful way and it's just a meaningless label that you ascribe to yourself even though your life is 109% not traditional and you are actually defying the traditions of sex to be who you are?
That's what I expected from someone struggling with cognitive dissonance. Meaningless platitudes and ignorance in face of a contradictory reality.
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>>38516281
Traditionalism in art is still traditionalism.
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>>38516268
I am not talking about the normies, im talking about the ones in power legislating their religious views if they had the chance to
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>>38516268
At this point, the labels you use to describe yourself don't mean anything if you're just going to twist their meanings and ignore their connotations.
You call yourself a conservative traditionalist and yet, when compared to a real conservative traditionalist, you come across as just another degenerate.
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>>38516309
Not a thing in my country, although there are protties who have wet dreams about gaining power, I'm gonna be sure to mog them always, protties need to stay in their place.
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>>38516303
you say you are a traditionalist, and after being exposed as a phony, you go
>Actually I'm just traditional in art
It's ridiculous. No actual conservative would take you seriously and maybe they shouldn't.
I just hope you get a bf so you can taste the religious shunning and move one step further in your apostasy quest.
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>>38516343
Sure, whatever.
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>>38516241
>Shifted as time went by
So you're saying that as time goes by you are slowly coping with the fact that you're not a traditionalist or a conservative in any meaningful way?
Good. Maybe you'll stop calling yourself that in a few years after you get a bf and get kicked out of church
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>>38516367
My goodness, what a stuck up fag you are, you'd be one of the ones I'd throw in the ovens fr.
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>>38516348
>Neither a conservative nor traditional
Glad you admit that.
Do yourself a favor: come out and get a bf
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>>38516377
>what a stuck up fag you are
talking about projection lmao
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>>38516377
You would be sharing the oven with me, cognitive dissonance queen
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>>38516403
Maybe I am a stuck up fag, who cares, not me.
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>>38516409
You want a kiss or something? Why do you care so much?
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>>38516053
>School and my peers taught me to hate myself
And where do you think they got the moral grandstanding to make a faggot hate himself?
Your peers are the church goers and they are still making you hate yourself given by how you are closeted to them, knowing full well that coming out will end their friendship.
If you learned to hate yourself in school, church consolidated that thought.
You just can't be honest about it because you're defending the abuser, like a Stockholm syndrome victim. Just like you couldn't be honest about your religious upbringing
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>>38516426
because enabling far right religious fucks objectively is harmful to gay people
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>>38516446
trip on, debbie
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>>38516446
Acting like a stuck up faggot is more harmful to gay people.
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>>38516426
Exposing all the bullshit inside the mind of a "conservative traditionalist" gay is important because we might be teaching other lurkers around a valuable lesson:
Being gay and conservative comes with a whole lot of problems, contradictions and inner conflicts that have no resolve other than literally "ignoring it".
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>>38516460
You are the most stuck up faggot around when you say you are a conservative, closeted queen.
Your loneliness and the absence of a bf is deeply tied to that
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>>38516460
no, seriously, siding with conservatives is worse, specially when you vote for them and that can have actual lasting impact on our rights.
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>>38516486
It's not, you're obsessed, you sound way more lonely than me, do you want something???
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>>38516495
The fact that I am a conservative doesn't mean I have much sympathy for other conservatives, I have sympathy for my views, simple as.
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>>38516511
Oh I see, so just like traditionalist, you use the term "conservative" in a meaningless way that has nothing to do with actual conservative people and their opinions?
If you were a conservative, you would share most of their viewpoints, and vote accordingly.
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>>38516501
>Conservative traditionalist fag
>Closeted to his only peers (churchgoers who would hate him if they knew)
>Bfless
I'm sorry, you are just a walking parody of conservatism.
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>>38516547
Do you think ideologies are set in stone? Are you autistic? No ideology is set in stone, nothing is, things can change.
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>>38516511
>conservative views
>gay
This is why you don't have a bf.
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>>38516558
>Closeted to his only peers (churchgoers who would hate him if they knew)
I have friends who have nothing to do with church though.
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>>38516564
Clearly you are changing before our very eyes, like I said before
You are slowly realizing how much you are not a conservative or a traditionalist in any way except for the id label
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>>38516571
Talking to you is exhausting, you're an exhausting person.
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>>38516577
Friends that wouldn' be your friends if they find out you're gay.
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>>38516593
I'm tired boss...
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>>38516564
It's like you don't even know what conservatism means, which is a literal opposition to cultural change in favor of the old traditions.
Regardless of what your ideologies are, you certainly don't put them to practice. You're just a phony.
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>>38516610
You don't know me, now fuck off you retard.
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>>38516590
You're a gay who calls himself conservative traditionalist and goes to church. You are exhausted already from keeping the mask up. You're not tired of talking to me, you're tired of pretending to be something you're not.
Like you do in church.
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>>38516577
>Not out to a single one
You don't know if they're truly your friends until then
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>>38516621
IF I WEREN'T CONSERVATIVE AND RELIGIOUS I'D JUST TROON OUT AND OD ON HRT THE FIRST CHANCE I GOT, MY GOD.
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>>38516617
You have revealed so much already. For example you showed us how troubled with inner contradictions you are, and your solution to that is ignoring everything that reminds you of this inner conflict.
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>>38516635
Is that it? Is that really it?
So all along, after all this time, you were a repper?
And religion/conservatism/traditionalism is the dam of repression keeping the waters at bay?
Oh wow. Just wow.
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>>38516654
PLEASE STOP, YOU'RE HURTING ME.
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>>38516654
Ahem, not really though...
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>>38516667
So like, totally and completely it. Got it.
And I thought that you had it bad being a closet gay in church, but a closet tranny is a whole different story. Now I can understand why you cling to religion.
If the church would kick you out for holding your bf's hand, you don't even want to know what they would do if you transitioned. Like I really think they would actually stop you from entering the build altogether. Plus total and complete shunning and social suicide from everyone you met at church.
Poor girl.
You'll be free from the shackles of faith, with time. You are already on the path
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>>38516743
I WISH I NEVER WAS BORN A MAN, BUT NOW THAT I AM STUCK IN THIS PRISON, I HAVE TO COPE.
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>>38516759
Even if you choose to repress, which is a choice I could in theory get behind, conservatism/church are not the right way to do it because those will only fuel your self hatred and feelings of inadequacy, making you hate the inner trans self even more than you already do.
Therapy is much better, because even if you don't transition, you can still be in touch with your feminine self, and even learn to love that part of you and make peace with it.
Religion will never provide that experience, its discourse is just repression fuel, loneliness manifest and fear mongering.
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>>38516759
Basically church will suck your soul and your living energy without giving anything in return. Its rewards are all post mortem, a great bullshit if you ask me, but the whole premise of church is to worship suffering and fear, that's why you literally pray to a corpse being tortured/executed on an ancient torture device. Like Job's story, priests will tell you that it's a good thing that you suffer. It's all "a test". Nevermind that this rationale makes you suffer even more, for them it doesn't matter. It's the religion of suffering.
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>>38516856
I want to crossdress, I want to feminize myself, I want to be cute, I want to get fucked really hard, I want to be finessed by a good man, I want to feel like a woman, I don't want to be a woman, because I know I can never be a woman.
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>>38516893
I hope you get everything you want



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