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https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2025/jan/07/idaho-resolution-pushes-to-restore-natural-definit/
An Idaho House committee will consider a formal statement asking the U.S. Supreme Court to end same-sex marriage nationwide and allow the state to restore its ban on such unions.

Rep. Heather Scott, R-Blanchard, proposed the measure that calls the 2015 decision from the nation’s highest court to legalize same-sex marriage an “illegitimate overreach.” It asked the court to reinstate the “natural definition of marriage” – saying that marriage is between one man and one woman and anything to the contrary is biologically inaccurate.

The court’s 2015 ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges was a landmark decision that allowed gay couples to wed across the country, even in states that still banned unions of people from the same gender. The ruling also was widely recognized as a turning point in Americans’ views on same-sex marriage, which have become much more favorable over the last two decades, according to national polling from the Pew Research Center.

But the Supreme Court’s decision came by a 5-4 vote, and three new conservative justices were appointed by Republican President Donald Trump during his first term, shifting the court to the right. Two of the court’s most hard-line conservatives, Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, have previously written that the Obergefell decision should be reconsidered.

“The purpose of this resolution is just to affirm our state authority to regulate marriage,” Scott said at Tuesday’s hearing.

The committee moved Scott’s proposal forward Tuesday, and it will return to the committee for a public hearing at a date yet to be set. If ultimately passed by the Legislature, the statement – carrying only symbolic but not legal weight – would be sent to the Supreme Court.
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inb4 sodomy is made illegal again
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>>38517682
>Rep. Heather Scott, R-Blanchard
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>>38517682
>"restore natural definition of marriage"
Marriage itself isn't "natural", it's a made up concept
These people's minds are FUBAR, they don't even understand words
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>>38517884
They think the bible is the ultimate authority so
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>natural definition of marriage” – saying that marriage is between one man and one woman and anything to the contrary is biologically inaccurate.
These people are so mentally retarded. First of all, "marriage" is a concept. It's not a thing that can be owned and monopolized by any one group of human beings. It's like saying you own "music" and can decide who gets to participate in it. Second, if we're talking about nature, there are numerous instances of homosexual, monogamous relationships found in nature among animal species, not that these retards would ever acknowledge that, even if it were shoved in their faces.
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Thank god for proposition 3 amirite califags?
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Trannies really got the last laugh, the rest of the world is going to burn with them, kek.
There are fires burning down billionaire's mansions in CA. Right wing gays are about to witness the night of long knives.

None shall be spared from the Great Finding Out.
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>>38517923
>Right wing gays are about to witness the night of long knives.
Not really. Both parties are shit and it's lose/lose with either.
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>>38517682
Trannies did this to y'all
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>>38517923
I'm not laughing at all. Although there's some FAFO going on I never wanted it to be this way, I wanted everyone to be able to have a nice life.
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>>38517682
I hate politicians so much you wouldn't even believe
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>>38517946
They were doing this before they even knew what a tranny was, bro.
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It's funny that they never can find anyone actually HARMED by gay rights to properly sue and have to invent imagined shit
the worst they have is a bakery being asked to make gay wedding cakes that's literally the worst thing that has happened to christians from gays
not being shunned or harassed or beaten, just being asked to sell the same item you sell to everyone else, and then filing a complaint when you didn't
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>>38517956
wasting a decade of trying to make trannies happen instead of real policy, pal.
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>>38517964
What's the point of "real policy"? Do you think after the Holocaust and the post-war surge in support for Jews, that antisemitism was abolished? Do you think that's how this works? That you just implement a policy and things are fixed forever? Or might there need to be some self-rejuvenating structure here, centers of pressure against prejudices becoming entrenched again. The Christian conservatives have those institutions, dedicated to the exact opposite goal, and they weren't going to be stopped from it but temporarily.
Some of you idiots actually voted for their guy.
Lost the plot.
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>>38517948
>Although there's some FAFO going on I never wanted it to be this way, I wanted everyone to be able to have a nice life.
Bless you anon, I hope you make it
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Thank the lord im not a filthy americunt
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>>38517908
Can imagine having a married status makes things like adoption easier.
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>>38517682
Congratulations to the gay bigots who backstabbed the lgbtq+ community over their hatred of muh trannies

This is what you brought us all.. yes including you.
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>>38518058
Marriage is very important for tax status, insurance, etc. which is why there's such a big effort to invalidate gay marriages or marriages with trans partners

it's a direct way to make you lower class. if you can't marry, you pay more in taxes, insurance, have trouble sharing bank accounts, etc.
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>>38517884
Marriage has been between a man and a woman for as long as the universe has existed, are you really trying to go against a 6000 year old fact of nature?
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>>38517682
imagine having such an easy, privileged life that your biggest concern is the like 50 gay couples that are married
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>>38518074
Two words:
Biological reality.
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>>38518124
> a legal contract with the government is "biology"
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>>38518134
It observes biology, yes.
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If gay marriage falls, what happens to a couple married in one state where it's allowed, when they move to another state where it's illegal?
Would the marriage only be valid in states that allow it? How does that work.
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I've been telling you for years that it would not stop with the trannies
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>>38518073
>as long as the universe has existed
>>38518073
>are you really trying to go against a 6000 year old fact of nature?
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>38518124
marriage isn't natural nor biological, but queer people are
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>>38518124
Those two bottom belts can function perfectly if you tie them in a knot
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>>38518138
It, the contract, doesn't observe anything because it's not an individual. The two people it serves are individuals though.
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>>38518138
> legal contracts have eyeballs to "observe" things
> please, buy my religious beliefs wrapped in a naturalistic fallacy
try wording it differently, brainlet, maybe it will convince someone outside of your cult next time

>>38518141
they'll still just blame trannies because they're too cowardly to look their actual enemy in the eye

>>38518073
>are you really trying to go against a 6000 year old fact of nature?
anon are you okay? is someone supposed to be supervising you right now?
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>>38518178
Observing that females produce ova and males produce sperm and these cannot go together is not a fallacy.
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>>38518124
>our biological systems evolved such that males having sex with females would lead to reproduction therefore intercourse with the same sex is morally wrong
it's really mind numbing that people actually believe this shit. stop deluding yourself and admit you simply don't like it and it grosses you out.
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>>38518185
> these cannot go together
they're truly sending their best

> is not a fallacy
the fallacy is that you're insisting law be based on "nature", which you are arbitrarily choosing to cherrypick (e.g there are homosexual animals) to suit your religious narrative

your argument comes down to religion. period. there's no reason to take you seriously.
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trannies are homophobic
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>>38518058
most christian adoption agencies never outright restricted gays from adopting, they simply only allowed married couples to adopt, thus automatically excluding gays
that issue has not been fully explicitly resolved by either courts or statute
>but the supreme court ruled on it
yeah and it didn't really clearly resolve the issue one way or another
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>>38518185
Those words aren't in the bible. When will we acknowledge that divorce is anti-biology?
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>>38518251
As soon as liberals are purged from the government.
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>>38518266
what's funniest about this kind of poster is that you can't tell if they're 12 or 72
mentally 12, either way.
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>>38517682
>marriage is between one man and one woman and anything to the contrary is biologically inaccurate
>biologically
We need to do Kulturkampf 2.0. This time ALL christcuckery must be destroyed, for the good of our country.
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>>38518307
can we just destroy all abrahamistic faiths
they have no actual function except enforcing homophobia
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>>38518307
christianity has always been the safe haven of the white elites in times like the french revolution.
they will protect it with their lives because it's the best tool they've ever invented to control others and they're not going to give it up.
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>>38518204
Yeah, it's interesting how the "b-basic biology!" crowd conveniently likes to just ignore all the information we have on estrogen levels during prenatal development being a primary factor in determining sexuality and the LONG history of people existing outside the gender binary all throughout history. Homosexuality in the animal kingdom is also hard to ignore when you take even five seconds to look it up (more than half of insect sex is gay lmao).

Believing in a cosmic bronze age desert faerie probably requires you to ignore a TON of other inconvenient details as well. You need to be willingly ignorant of to maintain that worldview.
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>>38518318
all religion is a cancer that normalizes irrational thinking. we will never self-actualize as a society as long as it is present.
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>>38518318
>>38518307
>>38518344
this but we have to acknowledge that conservatism in general is also poison in the same way - it is ALL definitionally regressive thinking that kept us safe when we were scared little tribes huddling in the dark plotting against other tribes for scarce land and resources, and we have to move past it

we cannot keep both-sidesing literal denial of reality and fundamentally authoritarian assertions of imagination, hallucination, or simple lies and wishful thinking as on the same level with critical evidence-based reasoning
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>>38518373
The Dark Ages represent the biggest tragedy in human history
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>>38518344
>normalizes irrational thinking
exactly.
like why do we even "educate" people while this clearly irrational bullshit is constantly repeated?
are we even trying to move "forward"?
of course not.. these people don't even believe in evolution...
>>38518329
> You need to be willingly ignorant of to maintain that worldview.
i think it's more simple than that:
>monkey wants to survive.
>easier for monkey to survive with frens
>lots of frens at church
try going to their online spaces and just observing them.
they interact like animals, chirping their little sounds at eachother, whatever the popular buzzwords are this month about the people they've collectively decided to prioritize hating (read: neurotically obsess about)

there's no thought. there's just
> bird 1: tweet tweet
> bird 2: hoohoooo tweet tweet

the moment you think about any of this, it's clearly fucking bullshit. but they don't think about it. they're actively discouraged from doing so. having doubts about your faith is just a sign satan is creeping into your life, anon -- which is because you watch porn, and do a lot of other things that literally all of them do while pretending they don't so they can keep being part of the hivemind for their socioeconomic security

a lot of these people also have no real skills, nothing to really offer the world, no one thinks they're interesting for any reason - because they aren't - so they adopt this nonsense as a personality to delude themselves into thinking they have the adoration of others.
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>>38518383
we're closer than I think most people are comfortable admitting or discussing to falling back into that state for the vast majority of humanity

>>38518392
I think it starts with trying to get them to ask questions
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>>38518373
exactly. religion is only one arm of a whole industry of lies. our education systems must be completely reworked to shun irrationality at every step, and the engine of individuals and outlets spreading these ideologies must be dismantled.
t. 38518344
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>>38518073
some moron could say the same thing about harems with underage girls and it would have the same merit as your argument. that happened for thousands of years yet we understand it's morally wrong now (in most parts of the world at least)
it's why appeal to nature and appeal to history are considered logical fallacies

wait a second
>for as long as the universe has existed
>6000 year old fact of nature
nevermind you're either a retard or your bait worked on me either way congrats
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>>38518411
based
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>>38518073
Great bait, made me laugh
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>>38518329
My family are Christians, hardline enough that they say things like "you'll thank me when you're older" for destroying my life.

These people work very, very hard to remain ignorant, isn't that they're just waiting for the right facts and data, they will scream and destroy things when challenged ITS MY BELIEF my sister screams in my face. Ok but here is some information, what do you think of this?

I'M NOT READING THAT GARBAGE. OK fair enough, what role do hormones play during development in the womb? ITS A BOY OR A GIRL THATS ALL THAT MATTERS!

they don't want to be reached, they want to enforce their beliefs and destroy those who resist
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>>38518383
We're at the beginning of a dark age right now. You can see it self reported, nurses in NICU watching babies die as parents reject vaccines in favour of holistic prayer, teachers saying teenagers aged 16 cannot read or write en mass, every section of society is in decline.

Billionaires rape the earth and enslave whole countries whilst those who are illiterate behave like violent savages and suffer from no healthcare.

Imagine what they'll say about our time period in 500 years
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>>38517682
as long as it hurts "remove the t" people
maybe lgb faggots will realize that the republicans want to erase them too
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>>38518738
Where's the "bait"? Is it trolling to disagree with you?
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>>38518797
republicans and trannies are both the enemies of actual gay rights
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>>38518822
Carbon dating exists, Christcuck
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>>38518842
>trust da science
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>>38517923
>Trannies really got the last laugh, the rest of the world is going to burn with them, kek.
the people who wanted this shit are happy with burning the world down
>There are fires burning down billionaire's mansions in CA. Right wing gays are about to witness the night of long knives.
at the rate we're going boomers gonna lose their medicare and chuds will be drafted to fight in mexico
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>>38518906
the fact that the right makes fun of you for citing actual data tells you all you need to know about their ideology.
(nta)
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>>38518906
>hello? i'd like to schedule a covid vaccination
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>>38518831
gay men aren't real
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>>38518797
>maybe lgb faggots will realize that the republicans want to erase them too
No shit, dumbass. We always knew that. The question is the normies in the middle. We had to spend DECADES fighting their propaganda in order to sway the normies over to think "you know what, it really doesn't hurt me if two consenting adults wanna be together."

I have no animosity for trannies on a personal level, but you play politics like fucking idiots, and I hate the way you glommed onto our movement and rebranded the whole thing as "LGBT" in such a way that your own political clumsiness destroyed our hard-won progress. You demanded way too much way too quickly, you knocked the whole Jenga tower over in the space of a few years. You lost the normies and you gave the right-wing jackals all the ammunition they needed to turn them back against us too.
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>>38518974
>glommed onto our movement
nta but hahahahaha
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>>38519001
That is exactly what happened, both on the level of public perception and at the organizational level, gay rights groups became "LGBT rights" groups and shifted all their focus onto trans stuff in the 2010s
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>>38518916
>the fact that the right makes fun of you for citing actual data tells you all you need to know about their ideology.
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>>38519027
we need to drop the t before this gets worse
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>>38519039
It's way too late for that, the happening has already happened. at this point we just gotta ride out the pendulum swing and see how bad it gets
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>>38519027
I agree a lot of trans people "play politics like fucking idiots", although, gay people lately haven't played things very well either and it's a result of exactly the fact respectability politics people who wanted to invest everyone's hopes in some liberal "normie moderate" politicians had "glommed onto" the movement, earlier than you know. Picrel.
So after gay marriage was approved by SCOTUS in 2015 most gay people thought it was Mission Accomplished based on a Whig historiography ("arc of history bends towards progress") framework. Even before this, the liberal mode of organizing had hollowed out the kind of organizing that would have been conducive to resisting this eventuality we're now faced with (semi described here: >>38517974 ).
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>>38519045
brb joining the lgb alliance

>>38519060
not everyone bought the "gay rights fight fight is over now" rhetoric either, my reaction was gay marriage was nice but didn't realistically matter nearly as much as an explicit ban on anti-gay discrimination entirely, and they weren't going to give you that, and still haven't
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>>38519243
Not everyone bought into it but enough did to matter. We were already a small umbrella of people and that's if all the components are working together. Originally there were hubs of IRL connection like gay bars. Now there's online spaces that feel more abstract and are more subject to weird distractive or divisive effects, you don't really know the other person you're talking to necessarily.
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>>38519373
>but enough did to matter
matter how?
what would have been different if they didn't buy into the idea that legal gay marriage meant social gay acceptance?
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>>38519690
It's was an interlocking series of judgement errors so that alone wouldn't have brought us where we needed to be, but I think we should at least be of a mindset that whatever ink is on the legal papers in DC is not necessarily going to protect us and we should work under an assumption that ink will one day say we must be criminalized.
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>>38519733
The only people who claim that paper gay rights = full social acceptance are homophobes with bias. Nobody says it in good faith who is openly gay themselves.
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>>38520012
Well they sure act like they believe it. After all what were they doing to prevent these Christian conservative groups from maneuvering back into position? Nothing, nothing at all. Just posting about dumb stuff and doing drugs, having sex. All nice but no work put in to maintain it.
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If trans people didn't exist, then these right wing, reactionary fundamentalist Christian extremists would have embraced homosexuality!

Trans people are so powerful, they just overwhelmed gay men, like a swarm of bees. Gay men were powerless, 0.5% of society just wielded so much power, gay men were in a state of shock.

The supreme court and billionaires are nothing compared to the power of the blahaj and homebrew hrt.

See you in the camps
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>>38520168
>If trans people didn't exist
they don't
what you call trans people I call crossdressers
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>>38520217
Wow, how brave to go against the grain anon, have a cookie
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>>38520234
transgenderism is promoting the status quo
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>>38520467
>t.
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>>38517682
fuck her

thank goodness im married
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>>38520500
Lol these people are a total disgrace lol.
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It's ok to be a feminine man, or a masculine woman. It's ok for men to socialize primarily with women, or have interests and hobbies normally more popular with women.
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>>38517682
>was hoping to marry bf not just out of monogamy but also so we could live in the same country
fuuuuuuck
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>>38520526
Actually according to my calculations, those traits decrease the national birth rate by 0.25%, 0.13%, 0.7% and 0.35% respectively when tolerated. To save the human race and prevent unborn genocide it is an ethical imperative that these behaviors be curtailed.
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>>38520680
>save the human race
there's 8 billion of us, and more everyday, this is a red herring reason
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>>38520687
Anon that was irony I think
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>>38520687
2720 — the year when Japan is left with just one child
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/01/06/japan/society/695-years-later-1-child/
Stop trying to genocide humanity.
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>>38517682
>R-Blanchard
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>>38517682
Christfag spirituality aside, the entire point of matrimony as a cultural and legal institution is to incentivise men and women to form a relatively stable environment so that they can procreate and usher in the next generation of society. Faggots and trannies have no business near a marriage because they can't procreate. Fags who adopts kids are secret pedophiles and give everyone the ick. trannies are men pretending to be women and also give everyone the ick.
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>>38519060
Well damn, I guess white gays really are toxic and elitist
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>>38517923
Yeah I'm laughing. I saw the writing on the wall like 10 years ago even before most of you had your brains fried.
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>>38518058
non straight or trans couples should unequivocally not be allowed to adopt
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>>38517682
unpopular opinion but I don't see why it matters for the government to recognize me and my partner, why the hell would I want to get the government involved, if anything I want it away from us
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>>38522304
wouldnt be on my husbands insurance if we couldnt get married and if he dies i wouldnt even be able to handle his estate afterwards, not to mention everything revolving around adoption
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>>38522310
>property
just start a business together, might even be able to get some tax benefits
>adoption
if i wanted kids i'd get a woman involved, maybe be like one of those boomer fags who had a wife and kids but were gay on the side and didn't really feel the need to announce to the whole world 24/7 "look everyone, i'm gayy!! YOU HEAR ME, HEY WORLD, YOU HEAR ME!?"
i think a lot of people are really just narcissistic
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>>38522336
>just start a business together, might even be able to get some tax benefits
im a housewife
>>38522336
>if i wanted kids i'd get a woman involved
i wouldnt have parental rights over the child which means it wouldnt be mine it be my husbands and the womans, not my idea of a good time
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>>38518059
log cabin republicans will always find a way to convince themselves that republicans love them, its those icky trans people who are the reason they (cisgays) will be put into the camps
i remember when my trumptard family said i was being over-dramatic with what trump was going to do (based on p2025, not some tea leaf bullshit). hes not even in office and it looks like the heritage foundation will be getting the overwhemling majority of their policies pushed through
i hate this country so much its unreal
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>>38522375
If the mango Mussolini acts on taking over anything he promises he will hopefully we can all have an out through NATO intervention.
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>>38520691
Nothing is gonna stop brown ppl and south Americans from fucking. And South America has like way more trannies so you can rule out trannies existing as the issue for low birth rate. I hope the south Americans produce more cuz I like their culture more but Indians aren't bad easily the best of the brown people.
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>>38522336
Yes cuz adding a third wheel to use as a breeding cow is much more normal than adopting a child who doesn't have a home.
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>>38522568
>but Indians aren't bad easily the best of the brown people.
Raj pls
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>>38520217
let us know when you get published in a medical or scientific journal then we'll have a reason to care about your opinion
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>>38522336
>just start a
or you can drop the completely arbitrary bullshit and just let them get married? people like you who actively look for reasons to deny basic human rights are so weird
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>>38517682
>idaho state legislature
>carrying only symbolic but not legal weight
this isn't going anywhere.
>>38517884
>>38517908
marriage is a social technology, it's "made up" in the sense of being invented but does in fact have to have some specific properties in order to be useful for its purpose. it can vary a lot more widely than modern conservatives realize without losing that but not infinitely.
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>>38517923
The fires aren't sparing trannies nor is it sparing trans allies. How is this the last laugh? Haha things are worse for me now and also it's worse for everyone else for us related reasons haha.
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>>38522353
>im a housewife
Ngl the fact that you say this when you're actually some drugged out neet tranny on 4chan grosses me TF out. Calling yourself a housewife prolly gives you an agp boner. The world is healing by ostracizing people like you.
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>>38525377
Taking care of a husband and a home is basically a job that never ends lol
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>>38518307
Christianity is basically gone in the younger generations. Yeah there are some zoomer theology bros, but their religion is just an aesthetic and they don't have any real connection to the faith. all these new popular megachurchs are just Jesus themed rock concerts

t. raised extremist Lutheran
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>>38518789
>Imagine what they'll say about our time period in 500 years

Gweilo retarded AF
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hey don't worry. the GOP will come down hard on immigration so it was a good tradeoff since "immigrants are an existential threat to gay rights"

absolutely outstanding job, people. also looks like trump is going to save the palestinians and not threaten military force against our allies, so kudos to the "warmonger kamala" people too
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trump isn't going to make it through this term. I guarantee it
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>>38518073
I have a question.
Apart from the idea of groups trying to force religions to accept and undertake gay marriages in their churches/temples/mosques/etc., what is the actual harm to others in gay marriage?
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>>38526276
In truth there isn't any harm.

Conservatives claim that gay marriage makes a mockery of what they consider real marriage and devalues it's value in society. ofc none of the predictions cons made during the gay marriage debate came true
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>>38526226
if he keels over like baron harkonnen because his heart exploded from too much whatever the fuck made him that fat, there will be literal dancing in the streets, mascara dude will be a lame duck loser, and order will be restored

if he gets his head blown off, then words cannot describe how fucked up everything is going to get, we will end up in a guatemala-tier civil war and this country will never recover
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>>38526469
Unfortunately even if he dies of natural causes I think the conspiracy theories calling it an assassination will be through the roof. There's no form of proof, no source of information, that people can trust or accept as proof if they don't want to

I think the only GOOD outcome is if he gets his full four years, and if he fucks up badly and obviously enough to break the hero-worship spell, but not quite badly enough to completely destroy us. And then, hopefully, people will be ready to get serious again in 4 years. But whatever weird glitch in the matrix we're living through, I think it has to run its course and the clowns have to have their day or else they'll keep doubling down and getting worse
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>>38521005
I literally can procreate.
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>>38517923
>Trannies really got the last laugh
White trannies helped put us on this path, retard.
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>>38526226
yeah especially after seeing the public's reaction to luigi meanwhile trump and elon are acting like cartoon villains instead of addressing real issues, i'd bet money that something major is about to go down in the next 4 years
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>>38517959
>It's funny that they never can find anyone actually HARMED by gay rights to properly sue and have to invent imagined shit
You mean exactly like affirmative action? Where they invented magical harm done to Asians that didn't exist in order to justify benefiting white people?
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>>38527119
anon, the whole point is very few trannies breed, even if theoretically some of them could
its more that nobody has studied if estrogen and anti androgens alone cause irreversible sterilization
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>>38518059
>gay bigots who backstabbed the lgbtq+ community over their hatred of muh trannies
You know that white trannies are just as responsible, right? They did the same in the same amount.
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>>38518139
>what happens to a couple married in one state where it's allowed, when they move to another state where it's illegal?
>Would the marriage only be valid in states that allow it? How does that work.
Just as with interracial marriage before, you cross the state line and you are no longer married and you lose all your rights.
Same as moving to a different country that doesn't recognize your marriage.
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>>38527485
>theoretically
It's not fucking theoretical. If the gonads are there, you CAN STILL BREED.
>nobody has studied if estrogen and anti androgens alone cause irreversible sterilization
yes they HAVE! it's just that YOU haven't, so you ASSERT that no one knows, just because YOU don't.
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>>38527563
>yes they HAVE!
no they have not
most trannies do not have kids, certainly not after starting hrt, because tranny is eugenics
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>>38527572
You are not a fertility doctor.
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>>38527584
nor are you
just seems pretty clear taking cross sex hormones has some negative impact on fertility
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>>38527584
Cheating. Having a wife with a womb doesn't count. Ofc they can get sperm somewhere easily.
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we have to stop tolerating faith and religion along with conservatism and any other form of authoritarianism that is fundamentally hinged on rejecting evidence and reason in favor of what someone else tells you
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>>38527607
I'm quoting fertility doctors.
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>>38527584
>Just turned 41
>Only now wants kids
The issue I'm seeing isn't trans related...
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>>38527671
they have not tested this clinically
as well, many trans people go on to get gonad removal
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>>38527690
moron
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>>38518059
Honestly I hope they bring back sodomy laws just to fuck over the LGB types even harder for their betrayal
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>>38528297
most LGB support trans people.
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>>38528305
Referring to lgb alliance
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>>38528305
I'm actually a gay who is against groomers. I belong to gays against groomers. Have you heard about gays against groomers?
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>>38528318
Tiny psyop groups
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>>38528354
that's what trannies are
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>>38517682
Republican support for gay marriage reached a majority of support for the first time in history, in 2018.

Guess what changed between 2018-2025 to revive hatred of LGB people?
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>>38528354
Does this stat exists but for mtf and ftm separately? Curious if it changes support at all
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>>38527642
this
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>>38528422
Dropping the T would be easier.
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>>38528365
TERFs and Christian fundamentalists did a series of psyops to revive queermisic politics? Yeah I noticed.
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>>38528454
Hope the retard rad fems enjoy the forced births and hopefully removal from workforce and voting rights. at least they will get dragged into the grave with us
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>>38528454
Terfs and religious people are reacting to the increasing numbers of trans mtf. That's what's happening. But they're not the only people concerned about what's causing boys and men to suddenly think they're women. Even mainstream media sources are reporting on it, journalists that identify as liberal are worried about what's going on, and why boys are ruining their bodies and chasing a bizarre fantasy of being a girl.
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>>38517682
Well, fags, troons, we've had a good run, but now not even Canada is safe anymore. Let's just hope that the firing squads have their sights zeroed, and that the Zyklon B tastes like lemon meringue.
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>>38528496
Hey evil fuckwit, why are you citing a newspaper that's openly trying to cover up a genocide?
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>>38528496
>Even mainstream media sources are reporting on it,
You say this like that's a surprise. You ARE the establishment. The establishment agrees with you. The corrupt, corporate establishment hollowing out people's lives. Does that give you any pause at all?
You have a lot of blood on your hands.
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>>38528552
Non-sequiter reply. Irrelevant.
>>38528558
The establishment media position on trans women was to offer blanket support. They were in favor of trans men using the women's restrooms, being allowed in the women's locker room, and competing against females in sporting competitions.
But the situation has changed, and we're now at a tipping point where a majority of Americans know that trans mtf are not what we thought they were. They're men who fetishize cis women, and underage female children.
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>>38528599
>They're men who fetishize cis women, and underage female children.
have you even seen /pol/
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>>38528640
Not in a really long time. Pol is a breeding ground for future mtf, being full of male incel pedophiles.
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>>38528599
>The establishment media position on trans women was to offer blanket support.
Could you explain how this squares with your citing the top newspaper in the country agreeing with you? Are you fucking stupid or something?
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>>38528663
Anti-trans activists are incel pedophiles. Here's some evidence that transphobia causes child molestation:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40124-023-00302-6
https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S2950193824000019
Are you interested in this fact or will you pretend it doesn't exist?
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>>38528715
You literally sound fucking braindead.

The media supported trans women forever, up until the horror stories that accompanied freaks like Chris Chan, Jessica Yaniv, Kris Tyson, and the other psychotic men that have transitioned in the past decade to pursue pedophilia and other aberrant lifestyles.
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>>38528761
Here's some evidence that transphobia causes child molestation:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40124-023-00302-6
https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S2950193824000019
Are you interested in this fact or will you pretend it doesn't exist? I noticed you didn't respond the first time I told you about it.
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>>38528755
You're insane. I can see why terfs want you guys medicated and locked up.
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>>38520680
>Muh calculations
>Doesn't show us any calculations and just throws out some bullshit numbers
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>>38528788
Nobody is shocked you support political abuse of psychiatry.
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>>38528822
We need to reestablish state and federal mental hospitals as permanent residency alternative to allowing mtf to groom and sexually abuse children.
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>>38528893
Could you explain why you're still spreading anti-trans rhetoric after being shown evidence that it causes child rape? Why are you a pedophile?
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>>38528939
men can't be raped
anti trans rhetoric is pro reality
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>>38529164
You are silly.
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>>38529240
ur a man pretending to be a woman
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>>38529250
Hormone replacement changes gene expression, making cells/tissue act more like if they had XX or XY dependent on hormone being added
https://www.the-scientist.com/hormone-therapy-triggers-male-gene-patterns-in-transgender-mens-cells-71014
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220228/Study-shows-the-impact-of-gender-affirming-hormone-therapy-on-epigenetic-signature-of-genes.aspx
Homologous structures
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_related_male_and_female_reproductive_organs
https://www.meddean.luc.edu/lumen/meded/grossanatomy/pelvis/homology.html
https://www.maudmedical.com/news/happy-november-from-maud
Viable eggs from male people, viable sperm from female people
https://theconversation.com/eggs-from-men-sperm-from-women-how-stem-cell-science-may-change-how-we-reproduce-219005
Most cis women have Y chromosomes in some cells:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32065627/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16084184/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3458919/
Trans men grow prostate tissue
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/his.14587
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32282346/
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00345-021-03907-y
Trans women grow breasts identical to cis women's
https://genderanalysis.net/resources/studies-on-trans-womens-breast-development/
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>>38529301
all the links in the world won't make your body look truly female
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>>38528454
Based if true, zoomers are going to piss all over your “progress” that you’ve shoved down America the past couple decades and I’m all here for it. The selective hysteria, honestly getting me excited, He probably won’t even do shit, but the fact that you’re so scared that he will brings me joy. Maybe he will actually
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>>38529425
That would be because you're evil, but you know already.
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>>38529584
America 100 years ago was peak though, way better aura though fr no cap
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>>38529635
I'm convinced you "people" are literal demons speaking to me through a screen at this point.
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>>38529744
The important thing is to hurt trans people. They are smug and think they can boss us around with their phony identities and it's time to get revenge.
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>>38529744
I am in your walls anon, I am watching to you sleep through your webcam.
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>>38528354
Everyone who answered "very positively" on this is a virtue signaller, if you're a sane person you're neutral on trans people as a category.
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>>38529787
Yeah see what I mean, you're a demon.
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>>38529301
Your link spam is sad tranny copium. but this one was LOL:
>Trans women grow breasts identical to cis women
Nice try moobs. No wonder you put it at the end. You will never be female
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>>38530022
Ok demon.
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>>38517682
thank goodness im already married
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>>38530131
>Because the bony frame of the male chest differs greatly from the female, the resulting appearance of the thorax still differs from that of similarly developed natal females, often resulting in an appearance that is deemed unsatisfactory by patients, leading approximately 60% to request an augmentation mammoplasty (3).
Lol even your copium says you're a bony chested hon. I bet you didnt even read your own tranny spam. You actually thought dropping a wall of links to pozzed gender blogs was gunna intimidate anyone?
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>>38530553
So it's ameliorated with an augmentation surgery. I guess that means you were wrong but in a different way.
Huh, I guess it turns out you were wrong.
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>>38530582
no there is no surgery to fix wide male chest and shoulders or overlay boobs that will look normal
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>>38530597
Is that anything like the FUD about FFS you like to post that got thoroughly disproven? Btw this thread was about gay marriage lol
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Marriage as a legal construct exists only to benefit the offspring of the married couple. It is meant to hold them equally responsible and ease the financial burden. Since gays shouldn't be anywhere near children, then they have no need for legal marriage. They can have the social version that doesn't get you discounts on your taxes or shared health insurance, but they still get to have a big gay ceremony.
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>>38530616
photographs vs irl
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>>38517908
Christians like to act like they invented the concept of marriage and even the Earth itself. They're like the redditors of religion.
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>>38528822
>STUDIES SHOW psychiatry is worthless
Yeah cause 99.5% of people on earth can identify a crazy person at a glance without a formal education
ZING
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>>38530646
Cope, retard.
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>>38517682
They’re getting a head start on project 2025
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>>38530172
We did warn you, after us everyone else was next



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