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Why do anti-trans activists cite crime stories about trans people and why is that not seen as analogous to when people do it for certain races?
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>>38519725
Citing crime statistics against men is socially acceptable.
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Simple: per capita
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>>38519737
The per capita crime rate of trans people is lower than for cis people
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>>38519736
Weird that we live in a patriarchy supposedly but shitting on men is so much more socially acceptable than shitting on women categorically.
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>>38519852
Cis male convictions for sex crimes: 40/100K
Cis women: 0.15/100K
Trans women: 15/100K
I calculated those using 2020/21 stats, because the numbers are scarce.
So yes, trans women are committing less per capita sexual crimes than cis people (20/100K). And the MTF sex crime pattern is a bit closer to 0.15 than to 40, so it's more like cis women's than cis men's.
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>>38519920
1) Prostitution is a "sex crime"
2) Men who aren't actually trans may identify as such after the fact of their sexual assault conviction to gain access to female inmates.
3) The justice system, as mentioned in the OP image, is extremely biased and cases against trans people are more likely to be pursued.

These three points alone completely mute any point you thought you had.
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>>38519725
except police regularly deal with increased crime rates from certain individuals. I think it's not possible to work in anything regarding criminal law without becoming a bit racist.
today I was on my way to the grocery store and some groid started honking like a retard because the Aryan in front of him was driving too slow (carrying a heavy load of vril) and I flipped him off and he rolled his window down and called me a bitch so i called him a cunt, meanwhile he almost rearend this guy like 3 times in 30 seconds, then he turns off to the winco parking lot and continues throwing a fit, I tell him not to honk like that and he starts getting out of his car so I start jogging for a split second (no shame in fleeing, especially as a boymoder) and then he speeds to the fucking liquor store. I took the long way around.
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>>38519987
1. True
2. Statistically unproven conjecture
3. True
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>>38520273
>unproven
If you see a case of a "trans woman in prison". Try to find out if this "trans woman" suddenly realized "she" was "trans" spontaneously after being arrested. There's your confirmation
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>>38520294
>if I take the important qualifying adjective out I can get le epic W
You don't care about reality
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>>38520310
?
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>>38519987
Point (1) is fine. It's just that it would be unfair to compare sex crimes in general against just rape.
But in case you want to know, out of the 76 trans inmates incarcerated for sex offenses, 36 are rapists. So you can get a figure closer to 7/100K.
Point (2) is not. The same principle should qualify the general population and the carcerary population. If you restrict who can be considered a "real trans woman" in prison, you need to do it in real life as well, and then the total MTF population in the UK will also decrease in number. Not to mention that the debate is exactly useful due to the concerns that malicious actors might identify as trans exclusively in order to get access to women's spaces and commit sex crimes, so that point doesn't really help.
Point (3) isn't difficult to believe, but needs backing. I'm not aware of any research observing disparities in that sense.
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>>38519987
your point 2 is literally a right wing talking point retard
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>>38519725
niggers are criminals
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>>38520359
It's like the 0.5% they're correct about though.
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>>38520398
they are not right about anything, you are playing their game not realizing you're next
trans women deserve to be treated as women regardless of the situation they found themselves in when they found out
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>>38519865
That's how you know we live in a patriarchal society nona. Making fun of men is acceptable because it's usually punching up!
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>>38520412
What game am I playing? If you're actually trans, you'll be able to provide any kind of inkling of indication you were prior to your arrest.
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>>38520412
trans women deserve to be treated as the men they really are
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>>38520418
what if they found out after the arrest dipshit? suddenly they don't have the right to live as their gender and that is a gross violation of human rights
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>>38520430
Cost/benefit analysis here is simple. Yes there would be collateral damage but there would be greater damage from your policy.
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>>38520437
we don't play economics with human rights. no one's free until everyone is free. take your lesser evilism to hell with you
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>>38520449
Other people have rights too.



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