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Tops and bottoms edition

Question of the day: Are you top bottom or vers?

>FAQ
>What is a femboy?
A femboy is a male that pursues a feminine appearance for himself whilst still identifying as male

>Are femboys trans?
The majority of femboys are cisgendered. Femboy is not a 'stepping stone' to trans, it is a stand alone identity.

>Can trans post here?
Trans people are welcome to post in /fbg/ and identify as femboy if they want, but this is not a trans thread. Posts should not be about 'transitioning'

>Why dont I ever see femboys irl?
Femboys are often lumped in with trans people and are also subject to transphobia. For this reason, many do not present feminine in public, even if they would prefer to.

>Im in my 30s, is it too late for me to be a femboy?
No, recent advances in the sciences of lifestyle and self care have made it possible to maintain a youthful appearance much longer than was possible in previous generations

>Do femboys have to be thin?
Thin is the most popular body type, but there is a very dedicated fanbase for chubby femboys as well.

>Do you 'age out' of being a femboy?
No, older femboys simply become femguys. You can continue the lifestyle as long as you wish.

>But I heard that 'femininity doesnt last'?
Masculinity doesnt last either. Old people dont look masculine, they look like bulldogs. The simple fact is that beauty itself doesnt last, and this applies to both men and women equally. It is on all of us to maintain our appearances as long as we can.
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magical and fragical
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femboys are made for straight cock
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I wish I was a woman so femboys could impregnate me
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>>38526344
Don't exactly know. You'd have to go by it's definitions and ask people that identify as ace. Sometimes I use it even while not being completely sexually inactive or uninterested in it so people understand that I've 10% of the average interest in all that stuff and don't like talking about it much.
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>>38526229
different person but honestly a lot of anglo-american (and canadian obv) culture really does have stricter rules around gender expression and sexuality than you might expect, but our countries are increasingly fragmented socially and it's easy to find a counter-culture to slip into. rural spain being chill doesn't sound odd at all to me, i like to read old sociological research on gays and such (old meaning like the 1970s-80s) and latin american countries were contrasted favorably to the anglo west in terms of gay acceptance even though most of them were under authoritarian governments at the time.
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>>38526375
They tend to be too busy with whatever men will give them attention the easiest.
>>38526380
How are latin american countries related to spain. Spain is spain not latin america. And yes Europe in general (let's not include latin america as the people there at least now aren't very accepting often) is more normal about all types of gender expression. I feel like Americans just care too much about things that don't matter often.
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>>38526332
my whr is 0.69, I think I’ll keep the clothes on still thanks ;)
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>>38526408
Similar to mine and mine aren't the biggest. Whr is rather wonky often. Doesn't mean they're small either.
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>>38526399
seems reasonable to expect there are some cultural similarities between spain and the countries that were spanish colonies. i guess you have a point with brazil.

>Europe in general (let's not include latin america as the people there at least now aren't very accepting often)
maybe western europe, i wouldn't want to be any kind of faggot east of berlin. i've heard it's backsliding in some places like france too although part of that may be immigration related
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>>38526421
anon… are you just trying to get me to post more pictures of my hips? o.0
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>>38526479
If you want to look for cultural similarities you may be interested by the fact that Spain was occupied by Arabs for most of it's existence. Specially on the lower parts of Spain where their stay lasted the longest. And it is somewhat bad in certain spots. Poland can be bad with it for example, but generally Europe is more accepting than America. Again it depends on the part of each region we're talking about still.
>>38526496
Yes. I am. I'm curious. You don't go around saying "Oh look I have this :)" and don't show it. You could've said it about a cool white rock you found on the beach and I'd still be trying to get you to show it.
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>can't find pale skinned femboys in my brown country
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>>38526380
latam has many different realities, thinking it's all more or less the same is very anglospheric of you desu
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Man I am not used to threads moving this quick wtf.

>>38526181
Yeah I imagine.
I will never understand how people are able to use those machines from hell.

>>38526322
God I feel old, I had to look up what pookie meant.
Fun fact, it also refers to a crack addict lol

>>38526335
I'm a virgin lol

>>38526408
That sounds like a lot, though I have no idea what the average is like. Probably close to 1 with guys.

>>38526421
Well it's a proportions thing. If you had a teeny tiny waist, your hips could be relatively narrow and you still have a small whr.
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>>38526518
fine, look all you want, faggot. At least im not the one slobbering all over someone else’s hips right now T.T
https://litter.catbox.moe/9cz6er.jpeg
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>>38526567
nice hips and great figure, faggot
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>>38526563
That might be the thing here. I do have a small waist afaik.
>>38526567
I'm not a faggot and I am not slobbering. I am a woman that is curious and studious. I also just so happen to hold an ancient picture of me wearing similar pants and a similar belt.
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>>38526567
NTA, but are those Women's jeans? The pockets make it look like it.
Also cool belt, never seen one like that before.

>>38526597
Yup that sure is a small ass waist damn. Though I wouldn't call your hips narrow either tbf.
Hold on is that the same damn belt?
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>>38526607
There's around 9 billion belts like these. They're quite popular.
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>>38526597
oh whoops im sorry lol. well if you’d like you can be an honorary faggot for a day :D

also yeah this is like my dream figure, my whr (girth) usually hovers around 0.7-0.75 but I’ve been putting a lot of effort into lowering it recently :>

anything else you want to know??
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thinking of springing for something like picrel with a wig under it to start posting on twitter because I look like steve Buscemi and I don't wanna just wear a covid mask

Is this a mood killer?
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>>38526666
Lowering whr is complicated. There's simply some limits that it kinda has. And also at some point it's more about circumference than how wide x part looks, so it feels like nothing is changing.
>anything else you want to know??
Are you due to attempting to present effeminately irl suffering some kind of harassment or judgement from others due to it? Do people just not mention it and that's that? Are you like openly lgbt (I'm implying homosexuality due to your slur usage)?
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>>38526710
Quit using big words and talking like a nerd
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>>38526723
Close the goddam tab you worthless faggot how are you so tiresome
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>>38526618
Guess so. Wild that I've never seen one before.

>>38526673
As in you just wanna post suggestive shit on Twitter?
I mean, a full on mask sure beats a simple face-mask (especially those OwO masks). And if you center your whole aesthetic on a kind of "futuristic" feel (Neon lights, high saturation etc.) I think it could look really cool.

>>38526728
Man I should really get that final achievement for OneShot one of these days.
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>>38526518
well if you wanna go down that route then when arabs occupied spain they were a lot more chill with gay stuff, look up mukhannath for example. funnily enough i just found this article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispano-Arabic_homoerotic_poetry
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>>38526748
I never said it wasn't syrup I just said it's vanilla flavored not chocolate.
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>>38526567
so will you take off those pants or what
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>>38526710
omg love those questions
so yes I am gay and im open about it. I’ve had a boyfriend before and family/friends are all like totally chill about it (love them so much). I’ve never done any PDA with my ex though so I don’t know how people would react to that lol

as far as harassment and judgment goes? I mean I get treated differently but I wouldn’t say badly. I would say I get a lot of stares in public from men (especially younger men, teen’s or 20’s). For the most part people don’t really bring it up lol

I think really the biggest change in how others treat me is from women, like they seem to treat me like a woman too in the sense that I get included in like all the compliments and small talk. I think they appreciate the confidence lol
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>>38526728
Do you need a tissue? You just loooovvveee to cry about me.
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why does /cbg/ hate us?
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>>38526796
Was very curious about the stares. Mostly because it's something nobody can know the reasoning of and deducting off of reasonable theories is all there is. I suppose if you don't get treated badly they're just surprised due to you being out of the norm and or attracted due to it. Women treating fem guys like women (or at least basically like women) is very common yes. I find it weird personally but I am autistic and wouldn't include anyone on anything other than the 3 pondering voices in my head. Very cool answers. It's interesting to hear of someone I wouldn't get to ask much about generally due to their rarity. I am glad you have confidence and went forward with trying to be yourself. Very admirable.
>>38526800
I will bomb your house you subhuman rat
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>>38526755
i wasn't trying to start an argument on spain or latin america or whatever anyway, was just saying that the old school studies i've read comparing gay communities in different countries said the US and britain were less tolerant than anywhere outside of the eastern bloc (tbf they weren't looking at muslim or african countries though)
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>>38526846
I'm just saying the implication of latin america and spain being apparently similar enough to say 1 thing about latin america and imply it's also true in spain is annoying and untrue. And that the source behind that lgbt acceptance is difference. Not really that you're wrong. Not trying to argue either. I don't like arguing much, I usually skip to just being a hater if someone makes me argue.
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>>38526874
Different not difference. I'm tired of refreshing for news on the switch 2 and my eyes don't work so well anymore.
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>>38526845
mhm, like I can’t help but feel threatened by the stares but like I feel like they were kinda more of a “wow” stare than a “wtf” stare if that makes sense lol.

also absolutely any time! literally never had anyone like respectfully curious before so like I feel like I should be thanking u lol. idk if you want to ask more but like ur totally more than welcome to! ^.^
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>>38526304
literally me
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>>38526748
A lot of the discussions around Andalusia are biased, I'd generally take it with a grain of salt. Although it's expected that a very militaristic society like Spain became during the Reconquista would be much more traditional, when you're in a life and death situation you are less likely to care about things like gay rights, those are to a large extent luxuries. You need manly men who'll kill your enemies and breed women to have more men capable of doing that.
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>>38526585
omg tysm
>>38526607
they’re men’s jeans actually, just in a women’s cut.
>>38526778
ummm no I think they’re staying on, nice try though ;)
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>>38526896
Those people weirdly staring at you probably just want to ask you the same stuff as I would but don't know how they'd approach to do that. I'm glad you got to talk about things you usually don't due to my curiosity but I believe I am too tired to think of any new questions right now, so I'm just going to close the tab and ponder about whatever the social media algorithm decides I get to look at before I fall asleep tonight.
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>>38526874
>>38526883
well i'm sorry for assuming and i'll drop it, but maybe you'll be amused to hear that a lot of americans will still just call anyone and anything from south of the border "spanish", it's very boomer coded though nowadays
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>>38526673
grab those jap animal masks, doesnt cost expensive dorrar!, probaly
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>>38526928
sounds like a cozy night to me bestie, have a good one! o/

also idk if you even care but I just made a email forwarder thing if u ever wanna talk to me specifically again lol. up to you ofc
n5a0to9np@mozmail.com
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>>38526954
Jap animal masks?
Also thats like 60 bucks so its not that bad
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>>38526845
I'm quivering, shaking, and pissing.
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>>38527009
NTA but I think you’re acting like a bitch rn and I am going to squish you with a phone book and burn your egg sac with a blowtorch
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>>38527023
When do I not act like a cunty bitch?
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>>38527037
When you’re fucking the everliving shit out of me, that’s when
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>>38526971
i guess they dont cover jaw
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As a straight man who is only interested in topping how do I optimize my appearance to attract femboys? I've been working on getting leaner as a challenge to myself since I tend to be bulkier, but then I realized I should check if maybe femboys are more into a larger type. But then again I am only 5'8 so maybe I shouldn't try to appear large to begin with. My original goal was reaching 15% bf, currently at around 19, but I'll look smaller when leaner.
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>>38527057
I don't fuck, I get fucked sweetheart
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>>38526971
jej
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>>38527076
optimize your personality to attract girls...
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>>38527076
>how do I optimize my appearance
Be handsome and moderately fit? Idk. Would you be comfortable posting an unsee or litterbox?

Idk for me it’s more about your actions imho. Like u need to take me to dinner first and snuggle me and make me feel loved :>
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This thread/general is way more comfy and chill than I imagined based on the speed and subject matter.
Reminds me of bigen in the old days.

>>38526927
Huh, didn't know about those. That's cool, they fit you well!
God I wish I could find pants that fit me that well.

Also hope I didn't come across too creepy or anything, just liked your style and I don't often get the opportunity to talk about such things.

Also the conversation between you and that other Anon was interesting.

>>38527024
Understandable

Anyway, night everyone!
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>>38527094
Most girls have a shitty personality while femboys are a niche so I didn't think that'd be a good idea. Also for some reason manly homos keep staring at me, very uncomfortable. There's at least 3 homos in my gym who lock eyes on me whenever we're both there. Not sure if that means something about my appearance.

>>38527109
Maybe if it doesn't include face. Yes I know face is important but I'm too paranoid to post it on the internet in general. I'll look into it.

>Like u need to take me to dinner first and snuggle me and make me feel loved :>
That implies we have already met. I've never seen a femboy irl
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>>38527138
incels trying to find a unicorn lul
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>>38527135
lol ty anon! you’re fiiiiine dw <3
yeah I always really enjoy talking to ppl who like have an open mind and want to fit in my shoes :)))

>>38527138
mmm, you probably have. most of us just don’t dress up fem outside our homes lol
also ya totally get the selfie thing
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>>38527192
IKR like god either come out as bi or go talk to women istg
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>>38527109
>unsee cc/album#BrUGTzW7lf7m
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never tell women you're bi
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>I don’t have this
Why live
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>>38527668
how tall and old are you?
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>>38527798
18 and I’m 6’1
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>>38527839
cool I'm 23 and 5'8"
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>>38527266
Can someone rate this before it's gone, even if it's dogshit just let me know I want to improve
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>>38527859
It's gone but I saw it before
You look good but would look even better if you lost more body fat like you mentioned. I don't know specifics because I'm a 115 lb femboy but I'd would.
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any experiences with accutane? i really want to get rid of acne for good but i keep hearing about how it damages your liver
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>>38527969
everything damages you and one of those things is gonna kill you and it might just be a bus in the end
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>>38527987
That's a great way of putting things
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I wish I was blonde
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what are good deodorants/other fragrances for femboys?
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>>38528232
i like the arm and hammer unscented and i just found out they have an aluminum free version, im gonna buy some of that today. if you do unscented with deodorant it wont compete with your actual fragrance.
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>>38528171
I wish i had blue eyes
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2 hours of sleep before waking up again, yay.

>>38527203
Speaking of shoes, how did you develop your sense of style? Just intuition and experience?

>>38527969
Worked quite well for me. Just try to use it during the winter so the whole UV-sensitization doesn't fuck you over as hard.

>>38528171
Lucky for you, hair dyes exist.

>>38528661
You and me both, or at least not dark brown eyes
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In the mood to kiss some cute boys, if only there were some around who wanted to be kissed
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We are all here simply because we are pathetic failed males
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>>38528674
>Lucky for you, hair dyes exist.
But I don't wanna fuck up my hair
sigh
I guess brown hair green eyes is still cute
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>>38528701
That looks like a repper that sent me a video of themselves.
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why are troons always seething at femboys
i think it's because femboys are cute and valid whereas troons are mentally ill
i would cuddle to sleep with a femboy on my bed, i'd never let a troon inside my place for fear i'd be backstabbed for using the wrong pronouns
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>>38528991
its because femboys can grow to be normal in an older age
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>>38526335
any advice for femboy beguinners? i only crossdress and feminize in animal crossing due fear of the real world but i wouldn't mind to become a giga grindr slut
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>>38528991
It's all the same thing, femboys are just trannies without the mental hangup that they need to be identified as women. They'll still crumble when they start to masculanize and get on HRT or age out of it and start repping.
There are fembale brained bottoms and male brained tops and that's it.
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>>38528991
>>38529007
Cause femboys are reppers with attitudes and massive amounts of transphobia
>>38529085
Don't?
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>>38526335
are straight femboys real and where are the cis women that want one
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>>38529144
Yes, I am one, and I met my girlfriend through FFXIV (Yes we are IRL dating and not E-Dating)
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>>38529159
nice
desu I obviously know they cis women than like femboys exist, it's just that my last partner was one and it was such a trainwreck of a relationship it feels like it's doomed.
hopefully once I start doing shit again this year I'll met someone else
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>>38529159
You get made fun of behind closed doors for being a pussy.
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>>38529189
I mean if they are just femboy chasers than its doomed to fail because its a relationship built on what is practically a fetish. That's just my experience.
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>>38529202
lol
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>>38529116
femboys do realise that femboy isnt a viable social role? id be a femboy if i could, but i cant have a career as a femboy in anything but porn
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>>38529203
>"femboy chaser"
oh yeah that's what it felt like sometimes, I felt like she was hornier that I was
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>>38529228
Most femboys just dress like that in private and live completely normally outside of all that.
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>>38529228
about time someone said it
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>>38529228
It is though and more so than trans women.
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>>38529305
trans women isnt a social role, if you succeed as a trans women you can stealth and have the social role of a woman.
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>>38529363
If you succeed as a femboy you can stealth as a pretty boy and have the social role of stress relief twink.
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>>38529397
There is no social role of being a "pretty boy" or a "stress relief twink" that's bullshit
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>>38529427
LOL
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>>38529215
>>38529437
cope and seethe, when you start balding and getting manish everyone who you thought were your friends will leave you
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>>38528674
>how did you develop your sense of style?
Uhh I mean I try stuff on and see what works for the most part lol. There’s this nice boutique down the street from me and I like to go there every now and then because they have a lot of clothes in styles that I think works well on me :>
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>>38529470
I'm a masc cis man and femboys take HRT so?
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>>38529085
stay off grindr, feminize yourself and get quality partners away from that cesspool

>>38528701
>girl hips on feminine male
NO
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>>38528701
Didn't think there was fanart of this meme huh.

>>38529480
Ah I see.
Well, guess I'll just focus on improving my self-image so I can try on clothes with the possibility of actually liking the way I look lol.
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>>38529129
what the fuck do you mean with "don't"???
>>38529516
okay, i stay away from grindr, but any advice on coming out? i don't want people to see me as a tranny but god i wish i could crossdress in my job
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>>38529600
Unless you live in a liberal city and have a supportive family I wouldn't come out.
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https://x.com/TwinkieTheTwink/status/1877493998677315671
I would do egregious things for a bf like this who'd take estrogen
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>>38529600
dont come out
"femboy" is an identity born on the internet and 99% of people don't know wtf it is and will think you're trans/extremely faggy
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>>38529600
coming out as a femboy feels like "coming out" as a furry. you don't do it unless it's your partner lmao
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>>38529609
i do live in a liberal city and i have a liberal family

i am just a huge transphobe with a huge crossdressing fetish
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>>38529612
would you win claw machines for me?
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>>38529649
Then Idk, come out gay but not a crossdresser. Do it with your bf. Win win.
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>>38529616
femboy is the same thing as a crossdresser. i am just thinking to fake being trans so i can fullfill my fetish
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I'm sick of trying to beat logic into you fucking retards, It's like you guys genuinely don't have brains or are too stupid to fucking listen. You're all off in fairy faggot land to understand that being a femboy is literally just being a twink with extra steps and a +3 attribute bonus to repping. there is no "uh i'm a fem guy i'll never grow masc" you will hit an expiration date which is 25 exactly like twinks
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>>38529659
i am openly bisexual. no ones give a shit because it doesn't matter. now, the moment you want to wear a skirt and dress like a barbie even if you look like a hon is nonetheless shocking and disgusting (hot)

i can't get a boyfriend either because i am a super selective top who only will fuck boymoders
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>>38529730
Another dab on the /femgen/ newbie bingo card
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>>38529699
is the same as crossdressing, wich always has been LGBT. no need to writte an essay, chud
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>>38529699
opinions on hrt femboys
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>>38529750
I wholeheartedly mean this when I say it, Please fucking kill yourself.
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>>38529760
They're trans women, next
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>>38529625
what is a femboy exactly?
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>>38529773
A repper, nothing more, nothing less.
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>>38529766
is an eunuch also a trans women?
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>>38529765
lmaooo cope you little travestite
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>>38529773
just a guy that dresses or acts femininely
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are intersex femboys valid?
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>>38529779
all trans women are eunuchs
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>>38529805
so if you lose your balls you're a trans women. are femboys an exception to this rule?
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>>38529779
eunuch don't exist and shouldn't be considered a thing.
>>38529785
I'm not trans chudley, I'm a cis twink that's had enough of your retardation
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>>38529129
I’m not transphobic for example
>>38529649
I believe this anon is just repping they’re most likely trans
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>spider is a cis twink
funniest thing i've seen on this board all day
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>>38529868
lore?
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>>38529863
You have to check one of those boxes as a femboy, either repper or transphobe. and you went with the former Mith Runt
>>38529868
No proof that I'm not
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is 22 yo too old to be become cute
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>>38529699
yaaaayyy get the fuck out
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>>38529699
The 4mg of estrogen running through my veins would like to have a word with you
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>>38529888
>>38529896
twinks don't trip
twinks don't aggressively defend trannies
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>>38529936
>twinks dont trip
hey if you gave me a tab right now i absolutely would.
no shrooms though
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>>38529516
i need a bf that looks like this...
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>>38529922
>>38529935
>>38529936
Kill yourselves immediately.
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>>38529896
theres also no proof that you arent a morbidly obese 52 year old neckbeard

because thats what you are
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>>38529983
reverse
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>>38529997
im rubber and youre glue
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>>38530008
you're blu, only blu would say something so fucking gay
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>>38529972
nothing else to say huh :p
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>>38529972
BOO! HRT FEMBOY JUMPSCARE!
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boichest is goated
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>>38529699
That’s not true th ever very few guys over 25 who want to be remotely feminine were the first generation to try it aside from rare examples like Bowie Brian molko or Bryan eno
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>>38529651
I would spend 100 dollars to win a 5 dollar plush
>me
Proof.
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>>38529730
Me on the right
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Yeah I'm going to need a man male bf that I can
>aggressively gender female
>refer to as my girlfriend
>make take HRT and style themselves as a girl
>have heterosexual bussy sex for the purpose of procreation with
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where have all the good trips gone
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page nine bump, the fem drought is reaching emergency levels
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>>38529936
>twinks don't trip
true
>twinks don't aggressively defend trannies
not aggressively but i do defend trannies, i like them



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