Do you think people can recover from prolonged touch starvation and general lack of intimacy as an adult? Or does it cause a mild lasting trauma that will forever make it harder to have a happy, healthy relationship, even if you find someone willing to spoil you with affection and not make you feel needy over it?t. 5+ years since my last hug, kiss, or cuddle (excluding obligatory instances like brief goodbye hugs)
>>38571282Yes, you start feeling better if you just have a good cuddle once, and you’ll be back to normal if you keep it up regularly!Try watching a movie with a friend. You’re allowed to just ask “Can I lean on you?”
>>38571282>Touch starvation thread>have hugged, kissed, and cuddled beforestopped reading
>>38571357Hope you find someone to cuddle soon
>>38571282no because people dont want to be ur friend ad hug u because ur fucked up ;_;
>>38571357I didn't mean to downplay people who have it worse than me. The thread is even more relevant to you.>>38571344>you’ll be back to normal if you keep it up regularly!I want to believe this.>Try watching a movie with a friend. You’re allowed to just ask “Can I lean on you?”Sadly, I don't have any friends to do this with. I have like 1.5 "close" friends that are over an hour's drive away, and we don't have that type of friendship. They would be weirded out and almost definitely say no, and I wouldn't feel comfortable touching them like that to begin with because there's so little emotional intimacy between us.>>38571380Thanks anon
>>38571406>Thanks anonSorry, misread who you were replying to. Didn't mean to take the other anon's hope for myself, I promise.
>>38571282idk desu, my experiences with it are kinda varied.i was touch starved for a few years at a time growing up. usually only broken by like 1 hug. hugs were "gay" among friends. Usually only felt in family as apologies after particularly harsh punishments.before last year (after a 5y break) it was so painful it would hurt my chest sometimes with longing.(warning for brag:) but then around start of 2024 i was finally given physical affection.. (platonically) spooning, hugging, even cuddle piles. then i made out with another tgirl.. and it was genuinely so much i could barely handle it..i do think you can heal from it.it can feel cozy and safe and warm and love..i have received so much affection from different friends..genuinely, one of the best parts of my transition has been receiving more affection by my queer friends.but on the other hand, to be totally honest i can't always "feel" it...often i'm dissociated and tense, and it sometimes doesn't register at all emotionally... i don't know if this is because i'm not used to it, and traumatized in a way. or maybe it's because i'm so big and the other person is usually so small that it feels most of the time that i'm "giving" rather than receiving?(i usually end up big spoon or resting my head and wrapping around someone else. (which sometimes makes me intensely jealous lol.. :p))i kinda fear that it's impossible to fully heal. i feel like i'm wasting hugs by not being satisfied at all..but honestly that's okay.. it's still far more than i could have ever asked for i do think i am healing from it.i don't feel that pain in my chest anymore either :)
>>38571525forgor picrel kms
>>38571525I'm sorry about your childhood, anon. That sounds horrible.I'm very familiar with the longing chest pain, I've talked about it before and usually people have no idea what I'm talking about.It's great that things have turned around for you. I hope you can slowly work towards being more present, but don't feel like the hugs are "wasted" on you. They're *for you*, after all.I'm not trans, so I suspect my recovery path (if there shall be one) will be different than yours. But I have to hope to keep living, I suppose.
>>38571406>I didn't mean to downplay people who have it worse than meyou didn't do that, i'm sorry i shouldn't have posted that
>>38571282I was never hugged or cuddled so I dont know what is a "touch starvation". Now 5 years have passed since I had "friends".Death is only one who really want to hug me :3
>>38571920Literally me
>>38571883holding on to one day feel hugs/touch has been genuinely so worth it, i hope you make it too one day anon <3
I don't know I've just given up on ever having close physical contact or intimacy with anyone ever again, I'm so fucking lonely and touchstarved and I want someone to feel secure with but it's just not for me
>>38571951Sometimes I like to daydream about finding another broken person and skipping over intermediate steps to just shower each other in affection, like two injured animals bonding immediately and licking each others wounds. I guess that feels more realistic than finding someone who would want me even though they're already doing fine.
>>38571931Me 3>>38572039Thats the ideal, not that its likely to ever happen
>>38571282I just take dissociatives and give it to myself, I don't know if it's enough but it does something
>>3857212630 btwSexual contact of any kind 3 times since 2017, only 1 time penetration and they turned out to be a fervent zionistNot been cuddled since 2019
>>38571282daily aggressive mating press breedings
>>38572039god i need this
>>38572154>they turned out to be a fervent zionist and i can only assume this made you want to fuck then more, right? or do you hate white people?
>>38572039Ahhhhhhhhhhhh
>>38572553because Israel should be glassed
>>38571282I haven't been touched since my divorce 8 years ago. Yeah it will mess with you. It has sabotaged potential relationships. I no longer try.
>>38572039i had this and lost it, its over forever
>>38572583>It has sabotaged potential relationships. I no longer try.Please don't tell me this.
>>38571406Actively has friends>>38572154Recent sexual contact>>38572583Literally been marriedYou people are not touch starved GTFO
>>38572662almost a decade without touch is not good for humans.. that is very bad for mental health and even physical well being anon..
>>38572662>Actively has friends>You people are not touch starved GTFOAnon, they don't touch me. I meet my friends once every 4-6 months or so, and we usually go eat and talk a lot. That's it. They're not a shoulder for me to cry on, I don't share any of my personal issues with them.
>>38572678If theyve previously had frequent intimate contact I have no sympathy for them whatsoever. Getting in that kind of situation requires a decent amount of prior social contact too>>38572708So, are they your friends or no..? If you dont even know personal details about each other this just seems like acquaintances. Anyway, theres a degree of intimacy in even being intentionally in other peoples presence, to make contact with them even if only through speech.
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>>38573503WHY ARE YOU BUMPING
AAAAAAAAAA
>>38573537I got ignored..
>>38573617Must happen often to you if you're so touch starved lmao
>>38573617^ I guess that proves Im right, but still
I was touch starved for my whole life until I met my gf but now I think I want to cuddle too much and she gets tired of it. I'm still hungry to be touched and held all the time even though we've been together for two years.
>>38573625How on earth can I be ignored if Im in no proximity whatsoever to others anyway? Typical zoomer/yank, nothing you people can ever do with your life will have any significance.
>>38573709What are you on about
>>38573617OP here, thought it would be selfish to prolong my own thread. Why'd you bump, anon?
>>38573719You redundantly claimed that I must be 'ignored' often. Despite it being clear that Im not in any situation where Im around and/or in contact with people ever. Hence I have not once been ignored since there are no people to do such a thing to me.
>>38573782I could do that to you
>>38573781>Why'd you bump, anon?>>38573617>>38573627^ Is why
>>38573791Requires me to acknowledge and consider you as being another person. Which does not usually happen when speaking to 'internet' people, you are merely contradictory and often irrelevant letters on my monitor. Especially so if said texts have been sent over from a yank or diseased-underaged-persons.
>>38573828Just give me your approximate location
>>38573837Purpose being...?
>>38573844I just need to know if I can drop by
>>38573850Youre american, of course you cant. And even if you werent I cant stand to be physically nearby a stranger. They have nothing to do with me, and know nothing of me. Far simpler to remain that way
>>38573874I am a Euro. You mentioned Yanks so I figured your're not one yourself.>Far simplerSimpler that is easier since getting to know takes effort sure
>>38573893>I am a EuroAh, well a little late for you to be up, no? Same continent I suppose but certainly much too far>getting to know takes effortAnd would be entirely futile besides in <0.001% of cases. Realistically you could choose any other person in the street (of similar age) and get to know them, but comparing said person with even just a couple hundred other people and youll find very little difference between them. That is to say, they are barely individuals, and rather they are a strange mass of people. far disconnected from myself.To make it clear Im well aware the issue lies with myself. Whilst in education I had 'acquantinces' who spoke to me but I saw no difference in any of them. I never had any commonalities with any of them, and it remains that way. They all seem to live through some shared consciousness outside of my own.
>>38573966>a little late for you to be up, noLook who's talking.My experience isn't that extreme but I wouldn't be in this thread if I wasn't "touch starved". I had people I'd spend time with outside school but very rarely and generally in some ironic way the people that wanted to be friends with me I never really wanted to be friends with that much whilst people I wanted to befriend were kinda indifferent towards me.I see people as very different but ultimately was always more of an introvert and I honestly did it to myself. Existing in the eyes of other people is very tyring and often embarrassing
>>38574045>>38573893take a room together, faggots :3
>>38574045>Look who's talking.No I know, I just meant that Im surprised, not usually Euros up at 5/6am on a Tuesday.>people that wanted to be friends with me I never really wanted to be friends with that much whilst people I wanted to befriend were kinda indifferent towards me.I feel fairly similar to that, it seems most people are fine around me but I feel nothing for them. Theres 1 or 2 people in this world that I care for, and anyone that Im interested in, I regard so very highly that I wouldnt under any circumstance want to bring myself anywhere near them. I have an unfortunate case of autism, emotionally, wherein people are either everything or nothing at all to me. (Not to say I have any dislike for them, I just cant bring myself to connect with them at all)>Existing in the eyes of other people is very tyring and often embarrassingHmm, quite right. Issue is that without knowing you inside-out, people very often presume the worst of you, or at the least mischaracterize you in awful ways. I cant stand to be around anyone who views me as something which is not myself. Consequently, I shut myself in my room and never speak a word for months at a time..
>>38574084You seem to have missed the point of both our situations then...Also>:3Not acknowledging someone with clear high-likelihood of being brain diseased
>>38572536Seconded
>>38571534i loved this show thank you for posting this
Now its 8am and ill have to sleep. Twas all true then...
the one time my cis ally friend cuddled me out of pity she got visibly weirded out. i didn't touch her weird or anything just hugged. idk what i did. but yeah i won't be touching anyone ever again, that was my bad
I feel like any physical affectiob would probably do more harm than good to me now. I've never done those things with anyone and I get the feeling I'm in a "too starved to eat" situation One of these days I'll snap and end it and it'll probably be for the best
>>38571282bump
>>38577900Anon, I'm sorry, but no matter how many times you bump the thread, I won't be able to hug you.
>>38571344can you really...? i literally fantasized about doing this to him the other day
>>38577916In highschool, I was watching a movie at someone's house with a group of friends, and I stretched my legs out across a guy friend's lap, mainly because it was comfortable. That simple contact felt really nice. But later on during the movie, someone commented on it and they started asking me if I was gay...
>>38577986sad...legs over a guys lap sounds so cozy and kino fuck them for ruining itwe're all adults now though and like they know i'm a tranny. maybe I should just go for it next time i'm over
>>38577902That one wasnt actually me, Ive only been awake for 2 hours>>38577900I appreciate the bump whilst I was sleeping though anon>>38576008I feel quite similarly. It almost doesnt seem worth it at this point, anything that couldve been is far too tainted by now..
>>38579312>anything that couldve been is far too tainted by now.. You cut that out immediately, anon. I won't let you convince yourself you're doomed.
>>38571344>You’re allowed to just ask “Can I lean on you?”not a chance in hell would I ever be able to ask that without losing a friend
>>38579319>You cut that out immediately, anon. I won't let you convince yourself you're doomed.You must have missed my whining from 5am today then,>>38573966>>38574142but I believe Ive proven my situation. The issue lies with myself, as I am entirely incapable of connecting with any other person(s). Its incredibly unnatural to me in almost all cases.
>>38571357you actually have it better, i couldnt care less for physical contact before it was granted to me. then when it was taken away the starvation began.
>>38571282I don't think it's possible to recover. I was a KHHV until 26 or so, got a boyfriend, and realized I didn't like being touched down there or having sex. I'm 30 now and it hasn't gone away despite me being in almost a constant relationship the whole time. I used to fantasize about being touched and such but now I have absolutely no sex drive
>>38581412>active relationship for 4 yearsYet another non-touch starved attention whore. You can GTFO too!
>>38582858Calm down. Did you even read my post? I don't think it's possible to recover.What's your problem anyway? I was probably older than you are right now when I lost my KHHV status. You can still do that at any time but instead you choose to be bitter. When I was a depressed drug addict KHHV I was just self-destructive, not some shitposting lunatic raging at anyone who touched another human being.
>>38582956Yes, I know full well what you said. Im not just talking about being KHHV however, my point is that you clearly have a great amount of opportunity as-is, and clearly a decent amount of social-contact in addition to that. Youre doing well, you need not complain. 'Tis all.
>>38571282Im a 19 year old femboy and I can’t remember getting physical affection ever.
i was rape pump and dumped by my ex at 19 and now im 25. that was the only time ive been touched by someone. i feel broken.
>>38583297the last time I got physical affection it was from an asshole who dumped me right after so it’s kinda hard to feel good about it
>>38583297>>38583402You are both legitimate cases, I hope things in the future will work out in your favours. The world is cruel and unfair
>>38583424i hope so anon. the future feels awfully dim though. i just need to be hugged by one person
I am also touch starved to hell
>>38583453>the future feels awfully dim though.I understand the sentiment. You deserve far more than what youve been saddled with. I wish you luck in opposing it.
>>38571282i intentionally have tried to distance myself from people because im too fucked up to have a relationship. it's been about 5 years but it's really really hard. i really want someone to hug me and tell me it's okay. but i know i dont deserve it
>>38583410So sorry to hear that fren :(>>38583424Thank you, I hope things work out for you too.
>>38583697>but i know i dont deserve itWhy not, anon?
>>38583708cause im a horrible worthless person who deserves to suffer alone
>tfw a touch starved chaser that's still not over their ex and wish they could find a caring tranner
>>38571282I don't even know what I'm missing out onignorance is bliss
>>38583709That doesn't count, anon. You shouldn't tell yourself such horrible things just to rationalize your misfortune.Take some deep breaths.
>>38583719i know you're just trying to be kind but you don't understand anything about me, anyone who knows me would agree i dont deserve to be happy or anything, seriously
>>38571282I haven't kissed or hugged anyone in probably two decades. I doubt there is any trauma associated with it, but then I'm a top and a cis man. I imagine that the only way it can affect you is if you develope a complex over it. I have ironically had my dick sucked within that time frame though.
>>38583726Okay, I won't force it on you. I just doubt that you've actually done something so horrible as to not deserve happiness. Most people who are like that wouldn't admit it and feel remorseful.
>>38571282It's been about the same amount of time for me excluding familial hugs with my daughter. I haven't been with anyone in that context since her mother and I split but that has been a personal choice, I don't want to force someone else into my daughter's life so I'm waiting until she's independent. I can't say that it has affected me at all. I don't really get the need for validation from someone else. Maybe I am just too jaded to really invest in that mentality but it just doesn't bother me.
>>38583742it's not anything specific i've done, but my existence has only brought others suffering if i was less cowardly i would have kms by now
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