Ok, so just we are on the same page, Tzef is a androphilic detransitioner[1] who stopped taking hormones because they are "le bad" and didn't like the effects (such as that they made them attracted to women or that they couldn't use their penis). They used to date Sophie who was a very skilled transgender woman artist but then she killed herself after Tzef made a post about her where they misgendered her and claimed that she was a straight man faking it[2][3] and then broke up with her. Now every year Tzef claims to be sad over Sophie's death and that she misses her[4][5].Am I getting this wrong? What is really happening here?[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1fV_6NyRA[2]: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmusic/comments/hpi1ix/tzef_explanation_on_their_break_up_with_sophie/[3]: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmusic/comments/kpox3w/tzefs_recent_stories_on_sophie/[4]: https://www.reddit.com/r/Sophie/comments/1hk2aqy/like_what/[5]: https://www.reddit.com/r/Sophie/comments/10pc1fz/tzef_montanas_post_idk_why_but_this_doesnt_sit/
>>38577648trannies are insane whats new
>>38577648fucking hons
>>38577648They both never transitioned
>>38577728This is objectively false. Tzef is a detransitioner, they used to be on hrt but then stopped.
>>38577728Also>tzef has said before that she doesn't believe in trans women using hormones or having surgeries... i'm guessing it's some bizarre inverse truscum shit where she thinks sophie isn't really trans because she's on hormones. literally makes no fucking sense but i guess tzef is desperate for attentionSophie was also on hormones.
>>38577648I honestly believe SOPHIE's death was indeed an incredibly retarded accident and not suicide. Pretty sure Tzef made those accusations a long time before she died and she was in a relationship with Evita Manji by then (iirc she was the one who was with SOPHIE when she fell and talked with her before she died). The only person close to her who's hinted it was suicide (or at least the result of "inner darkness") is Tzef herself and as your own links show, she's certifiably, demonstrably wacko.
>>38577817Tzef kept harassing her during all this time though. It would absolutely make sense if she killed herself over the way she was being slandered by her ex.
>>38577728SOPHIE had tits and got FFS later on, or at least soft tissue work (and I suspect nose and chin too). That's an awful lot to be simply "faking". They probably just had differing conceptualisations of transness and Tzef just ran with it. Going by her work and press releases, SOPHIE seemed to have Buddhist-y David Lynch-esque ideas about the world being constant change and becoming etc. where nothing is fixed or absolute, whereas it sounds like Tzef believes in the concept of gender identity as a static, innate quality of the soul that has primacy over and above the body/presentation.
>>38577826Nah, posh kids untouched by life die in retarded ways all the time, I grew up around people like that and they're ditzes about personal safety, don't know real physical pain. Look up how many British people (specifically British) die falling off of balconies screwing around in the Mediterranean & related islands each year, the frequency might surprise you.
>>38577648Dk why yall saying sophie is a hon id smash
There's already more than enough sordid speculation about her death which, if you'll pardon the pun, is a dead end imo. How are we feeling on the theory she was influenced by Alan Moore's sci-fi comic "Promethea", which was written by Moore who comes from the same provincial town as she did, has a magical-girl protagonist called Sophie, and is all about the power of imagination and gnostic creative woowoo?https://www.reddit.com/r/Sophie/comments/1hxzcnm/sophiepromethea/
>>38578283Bump
This is why I will never transition. I refuse to live a life where my only possible partners are mentally ill ugly men that dress up as women or ugly women that grow beards.
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>>38577716One is a model, the other a historic-tier musical prodigy. What have you achieved, anon?
>>38577846sophie was right. you become what you do, there is no such thing as gender identity
sophie is cool and all but the degree to which her music is special is exaggerated by both her being trans and being dead
>>38582795This is the only sane view>>38582814Her sound design was fantastic and the fact she could do it on the fly is nothing short of incredible, but I'll agree if someone says she's more like one of the old great jazz musicians, revered for technical talent and sheer cool, than a great songwriter, like David Bowie or Paul Simon
those are big bold faces lmao
>>38577648>believes hormones are transphobicSeems like a nothingburger
>>38577648Am I supposed to know who these people are? Because I don't.
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