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https://youtu.be/RYXmWKpEXYc?t=210
>timestamp
Why won't she just come out already?
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holy shit I haven't watched gamegrumps in like a year because I've been so deep in this political shit, she would mog me
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because it's already too late.
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>>38579466
I know it's you, Arin
please stop torturing yourself
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>>38579466
>>38579583
i dont get why fellow reppers grow facial hair
like sister please just shave & take dutasteride at least
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>>38578825
shes the most tragic of all millennial repressors
you can just see the crying young woman slowly die within him during the events of sony's the tester season 3
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>>38579597
it makes repping easier tho
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>>38579614
no it doesn't lol. facial hair seems to make me more miserable. once its shaved i feel that bit freeer and happier
and i can feel my smooth skin
look at my reflection and smile
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>>38579622
>be repper
>on the verge of cracking
>suddenly get giga-alopecia
>lose every single hair on my body within 2 months and nothing's grown back in just under a year so far
>potentially saved tens of thousands on laser/electro
>but completely bald without even lashes or brows so I look like a Harkonnen from Dune
truly a monkey's paw of a condition
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I looked just like this in high school, I know there's a picture someone's mom might still have somewhere of me in a red dress like this too
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>>38581730
Literally repper eyes
Look at the pain in them
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>>38581730
this is the video where suzy does arin's makeup. i think he's drunk and he cries when he sees himself in the mirror
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>>38581730
Dumb bitch could barely do her own makeup right lmao
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>>38578825
I remember that one time he had an absolute meltdown and ruined thier World of Warcraft series because everyone had a character made that resembled them and he wanted a gender change.
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>>38581730
when she turns to him at the end and looks confused and asks him whats wrong before the video cuts...
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>>38583461
that really gets me
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>>38581730
pain only pain.
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seeing this makes me think about how painful the donuts episode must've been
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cKxKhmMWmk
>>38583651
why that one in particular?
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>>38583706
jesus christ....
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>>38579466
nooo it's not I promise
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>>38581730
its not too late to change your repper ways
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>>38581730
>those HARD swallows
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>>38584454
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>>38578825
wow white ppl troon so easily it’s not fair
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>>38581730
bros he had MAKEUP in his EYEBALL
stop mythologizing this shit
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>>38584753
we know it's you
stop pretending
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>>38585115
go to bed arin
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arin hansen has one of the biggest N WORD compilations out there yet remains uncancelled
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>>38581730
>that split second look at the screen seeing what she looks like knowing what could have been
brutal
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>>38585385
Learn to read context clues retard
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>>38579466
:( aww Arin, I promise it isn't
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>>38584454
>>38583706
;____;
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>>38581730
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>>38579608
this is why i can't really hate hausofdecline desu

someone who managed to get out of the millenial-repper-self-deprecation-humor-cope-cycle and eventually trooned out anyway
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>>38578825
>"Huh, Arin wants to be a girl again, for the 4000th time"
Even his friends are sick of this
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>>38584454
:(
this makes me so sad, why won't he just do it
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>>38581730
I pity him
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>>38585395
maybe because using the word nigger isn't bad, actually being a fucking racist or saying racist shit is
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>>38579466
the pain in her eyes... OOF
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>>38584454
being a millenial repper has to be the most painful thing on the entire planet
here you went most of your life coping that your inner discontinuity was the result of just a cheeky personality quirk, even as things only get progressively worse and worse. and only in the last decade has mass information and social acceptance advanced to the point where young people now have opportunity you could never even fathom at that age. and if you were born just a few years later, you might have had a chance.
heres to hoping he drops out of the public eye and starts taking hrt in secret. its not too late to be a mannish middle aged woman, repperkuns.
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>>38587141
He can't simply move on he's got bills to pay
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>>38579608
I really thought it was an obnoxious or even creepy thing at first but then I realized it was all the same signs I had trained myself to ignore over my lifetime
we're about the same age and grew up in the same era of the internet, so I understand, but it hurts to watch
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>>38583706
>girls are cute when they _____
This is a huge reason men hate being men. We're not allowed to enjoy anything. Everything that makes society cringe when men do it is suddenly cool and attractive when a woman does it.
>trying at something and not being instantly great
>eating and drinking things that actually taste good
>being lazy and messy
>having a personality disorder of any kind
>being too fat
>being too skinny
>not earning enough money to get by on your own
>stimming in public
>genuinely enjoying anything and displaying that enjoyment physically
>actually expressing love
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>>38587327
Girls are nice
Men are generally not nice
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>>38578825
>>38581730
>>38584454
>>38581730
>>38584454
This actually hurts to watch.
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>>38587453
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>>38585115
rofl
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>>38587141
Most of genz is in your position too. Gen alpha and barely gen z's got the best time in history to be born trans.
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>>38583392
I remeber that lol. To be fair a pot of people were having no fun playing wow
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>>38587453
I thought the "haha Arin's a repper" was a meme but that LOOK
The fucking eyes that see the woman staring back at herself for just a moment, getting excited and joyous but then seeing the sad old man he's becoming... The reality pouring in and the dread becoming utterly inescapable. The dread he has been running from and trying to ignore his whole life... I'm actually like tearing up it's so heartwrenching it's so fucking sad I can't ;-;
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>>38589110
lol its just AGP it aint that deep
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>>38589125
Delete your post, you don't deserve to reply to me
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>>38589144
arin is just a fellow agp and we will find a way to deal with it without transitioning
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>>38589154
>find a way
your two options are eventual estrogen or eventual suicide
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do you know what it feels like to have MAKEUP in your fucking EYE!?!??
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>I want to be a girl, if if it were up to me I'd be reborn as a girl and live my life as one. I love playing as female characters in videogames, and crossdressing every chance that I get
So you're trans?
>what? Pfff fucking internet weirdos speculating like that lmao
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THE RUMOR COME OUT: does Arin Hanson is trans?

Arin Hanson is trans is the most discussed in the media in the few years ago. Even it has happened in 2012, but some of the public curious about what exactly happening and to be the reason that the rumor comes out about his trans!

At that time he became the massive social networking rumor; the public, especially his fans, are shocked. He just came out with his bad rumor which has spread massively! This time is not about his music career but his bad rumor.

The rumor is out of standardize of hoax. According to the last reported the animator revealed himself as transsexual.

Do you still believe or not? This rumor is really much talked by people even in a person of his fans!
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>>38589166
does dutasteride count
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>>38589074
dont worry im gen Z and thankfully managed to learn what transitioning was before too much time passed. hopefully the coming tranny laws arent too bad because gen alpha is shaping up to have the best chances for living a relatively un-traumatized life, atleast where dysphoria is concerned. hell i know some early gen Zers that managed to get pre-puberty HRT and they are literally indistinguishable from cis women.
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>>38583706
is that a zelda game at 3:44?

this is a very clever game advertisement btw
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>>38589297
nm lmao
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>>38589289
pre-puberty hrt and non-weird socialization are keys to healthy successful transitions
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>>38589327
basically not being agp
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>>38589358
doesnt exist
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>>38589586
well then why do I get aroused imagining being a woman putting on makeup

and why do I feel so uncomfortably disconnected to male self
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>>38587024
dude he'll look like absolute shit and he knows it. not only that hes wayy too male socialized, any feminimity he may have had as a kid or teenager has been completely scrubbed off by living as a man and irony. hes sadly too emotionally stunted, he acts like an autistic 16yo despite being in his 30s and hes aware of it as it brings him money. transitioning would not only be a net negative for him but for trans people as a whole. it'll be a new kris tyson situation but without the pedo allegations. actually now that i think about it he used to make pedo and racist jokes in the past. if he were to troon out that stuff would resourface by transphobes trying to ruin his reputation. and now all of a sudden the well liked and beloved arin hanson is now an ugly, fat pedo racist malebrained mentally ill troon to the public eye. it wont be seen a valid transition but a midlife crisis, and transitioning makes your male traits jump out even more. he may not be a masculine man, but if he were to transition into a woman his body would suddenly become way manlier and his personality would become gross and unfeminine. its just not a good option, it would ruin his life. hes better reppint sadly, the troon boat sailed a long time ago for him
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>>38589671
oh, ya thats pretty strange. weird state of affairs, if you dont feel like a man then you should probably take hrt and become a theymab.
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>>38589793
She chose to pursue women and be involved with a f*male. This was the only possible outcome. Burn the coal, pay the toll, as they say.
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>>38589793
he could just blink out of the public sphere and quietly take hrt until he passes as a middle age woman. otherwise everything is going to explode real bad.
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>>38589871
if i was in seattle or whatever i'd probably just troon out. she/her.

alas....
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>>38589883
similar to catlyn jenner. she literally told his first wife chrystie crownover that she had gender issues and was planning to start hormones a few days after they started dating when bruce was 23 and she told him she would only marry her if she repressed and stayed a man and catlyn agreed. if he hadnt repressed to pursue a woman she couldve started hormones at 23
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>>38589897
even if he managed to pass as an older woman somehow, it wouldnt matter. if he returned to the public eye he would get exposed for all the shitty jokes and things he said in the past by transphobes. even though he never directly interacted with shadman like kris did he was still mutuals with him and friends with multiple people who were close to shad. also arin is an autistic manchild, i highly doubt he would dress modestly like an older woman, he would totally try to dress like a young girl to make up for all the years he lost living as a man and make everyone uncomfortable with his malebrain and autism. the only real good option is if he did what you said but completely dissapeared from the public eye forever, moneymaxxed all his surgeries, moved to another country and took a whole new identity and was taught female socialization by a female friend of his to learn how to live as a woman. sadly i dont think he would be able to have someone who could teach him since most of his close friends are men and ive heard rumors that his current gf told him she would break up with him if he trooned out(take this point with a grain of salt, its only rumors ive heard by hanging out in this board and around game grump fans)
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>>38589289
>>38589327
kys
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>>38590059
BITTERHON
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>>38590063
KYS
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>>38590055
>he would totally try to dress like a young girl to make up for all the years he lost living as a man and make everyone uncomfortable with his malebrain and autism.
still this would probably be better than him killing himself. i guess he could just keep playing escapist rpg's in his spare time.
> ive heard rumors that his current gf told him she would break up with him if he trooned out
ya, that sounds like conjecture. if it was true though then that makeup video is very fucking evil.
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>>38589793
>he'll
>he
you misspelled I'd and I, Arin
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>>38589793
PLEASE TAKE YOUR PILLS ARIN YOU WILL MOG ME AND BE HAPPIER AND MORE REAL
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>>38587327
Ok no shade, but I'm a dude who's very much redpilled on the blatant misandry of the world, but even I'm telling you that a lot of the stuff you said is catastophizing. I think you're projecting your dysphoria onto this stuff.
>trying at something and not being instantly great
Eh. Men are expected to prove their worth...but no one is good at anything the first time they do it. So this is an extreme exaggeration.
>eating and drinking things that actually taste good
Again, eh. There's certain foods that are seen as feminine, but this degree of stigma is the kind that only the dumbest of people wield against men. I have sympathy for the men who are insecure enough to be affected by this, but t.bh the only way to deal with stigma against something this dumb is to stop caring.
>being lazy and messy
Aren't men expected to be slobs?
>having a personality disorder of any kind
NPD and ASPD are seen as more male-coded. You mean BPD. Which is fair. It's not taken seriously in anyone, but yes there is increased stigma against men with BPD.
>being too fat
Eh. Kinda. Fat people in general are mocked simply for existing. But fat men are def more invisible than fat women imo. But it still sucks to be fat period. But also yes body positivity is only for women.
>being too skinny
Eh.
>not earning enough money to get by on your own
True. Life's hard on everyone these days, but men are expected to prove their worth.
>stimming in public
If someone's acting wacky in public, people will judge them. But women's mental health is definitely taken more seriously than men's, which I think is what you were really getting at.
>genuinely enjoying anything and displaying that enjoyment physically
>actually expressing love
Again, the kind of people who stigmatize the most basic, simple expressions by men, such as simply enjoying something, are so dumb they're not worth being taken seriously by anyone with an iq above 90. But yes, more overt displays of emotion are stigmatized in men.
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>>38581730
Actually more effective than ISTTVG
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>>38589793
Take your pills Arin. You’re far more likeable and charming than you seem to believe. Plus this won’t be a “surprise” or midlife crisis to anyone considering you’ve been saying this for years now.
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>>38589154
AGP, uh... finds a way
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>>38589793
This unfortunately. There is not still time. Unreal amount of denial in these (you)s.
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>>38581730
pain
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>>38590749
you don't get it, it doesn't go away or get better you don't just power through it you just lose more and more of yourself and inflict more damage the longer you keep it repressed
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>>38581730
>>38583706
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>>38589793
brutal truth nuclear
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>>38591892
that's just Arin coping to herself
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do you think his friends, especially danny, know that he's completely like
a repper?
its the way he said
>oh arin wants to be a girl again... for the 4000th time
the way arin knows the term egg and brings it up
obviously he's over exposed to that idea because of people theorizing but its all the things i did
casually joking about being queer to friends, having to explain terminology that they wouldve never heard in a million years
and you have to realize like, danny is one half of gg and yet he has never been exposed to the term, its only arin because of the way he acts
it invites this behavior for a reason, because its so obvious to anyone that has repped before or knows how reppers act
do you think he's ever gotten drunk, maybe multiple times, and gotten dangerously close to being too blunt? to where it got weird with someone like danny who is just doing the cis guy thing and putting his head in the sand about it
>oh yeah, it really does suck being a guy sometimes arin...
>have i ever wanted to be a girl? well no but...
and arin, coward that he is, knows he could never in a million years recover from being trans
he could never tell his wife he's ACTUALLY trans or pursue it
his career, legacy, and life has become a tomb that he has to dwell in for another 30-50 years, never knowing what it wouldve been like
all the wrinkles setting into his face deeper and deeper
touching his hairline when he ties it back and still wondering if maybe he could fix it even though deep down he knows he'll never try
its body horror that never ends
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>>38594022
never rep, kids
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>>38578825
This is physically painful for me to watch girls...
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>>38589933
im in seattle and not trooning out
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>>38578825
Does this seem rehearsed to anyone? Like they scripted it to get the egg assumptions off Arin's back?
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>>38594209
Tbh no, skiz take.
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>>38594209
yeah obviously
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>>38594251
BRO.... do u think it's normal for a normal heterosexual guy to look at himself in make-up and have EXTREME tranny pain without being a tranny?? >>38581730

Use ur goddamn EYES
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LOL WHY NOT JUST TROON OUT AS A 40 YEAR OLD MAN

how can people be so deluded, its so over, its over to levels you cant even begin to understand. you are not your desire to be a girl, you are not the fantasy you had as a child about how perfect your life could be and how you wanted it so bad if only you could be a completely different person biologically and psychologically. nobody gets to choose anything, even passoids are passoids just because they got lucky and had the right brain structure and physical appearance and social environment to transition and scrape together a decent enough simulation of their fantasy life. 99% of people will never have this
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>>38594385
No idort, I was replying to
>Does this seem rehearsed to anyone? Like they scripted it to get the egg assumptions off Arin's back?,
the idea they scripted it to get him out from egg accusations is skiz delulu conspiracism, partly b e c a u s e he clearly can't evade those claims anyway, look at the videos posted ITT yourself.
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>>38594494
Correct, 99% of cis people never live a reasonable simulacrum of their fantasy life either.
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>>38594022
you should watch the clips here >>38583706

his friends have known this for ages. and they keep being supportive like “it’s okay you can be whoever you want :)”. at this point his biggest enemy is himself
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>>38578825
is it not nauseating to fake laugh for like a decade now
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>>38594022
sounds nice tbhon, I’d love having a wife, family, friends, fun career and media legacy all to help you stay a happy repper. when you’re in your 20s lonely no friends and a job you hate it’s sometimes hard to see the point in repping
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>>38594624
I've been fake laughing over the pain for 2 decades now
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>>38594607
exactly, ever old broken person i see every time i go outside in their hundreds is a testament to this. you wont get what you want.
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>>38595979
just troon out already
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>>38596938
>>38594607
acceptance is a big thing

even as a mentally ill repper I see plenty of non dysphoric miserables who I seem better off than

I guess I've had to accept reality in a way that others deluxe themselves away from

I still yearn to be an ethereal twinkhon though
god I wish I could
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>>38594645
nothing makes repping feel better
you described all the reasons why it feels like a prison, not a nice little home
the constant thought of coming out of the closet threatens everything he is because transition = oblivion for someone like arin
he will lose his wife
he will lose his family
he will lose some of his friends
his channel will suffer and be attacked and the people he employs will be at risk
his legacy will be scrutinized to an unhealthy degree and all of his newgrounds era content will now be indicative that he's a pedophile, rapist, etc.
there is nothing happy about repression in a "well established" life because these things aren't sources of comfort but anxiety
as someone in my 20s that had friends, family, a public image to maintain, etc. there was nothing joyous about any of that
i just constantly wracked my brain about how i was one conversation away from losing everything and ending up homeless
that everything i worked for would now mean nothing
i'd never be employed again, no one would look at me the same way, all my friends would judge me, my family wouldnt understand, and everyone i was interested in romantically prior would hate my guts
some of those things ended up being true and i had to struggle with that
now i can only imagine what it would feel like if i was wildly more successful, had been married, and my public image was my source of revenue and the source of revenue for others
no one outside of game grumps fanbase knows who game grumps is, but if arin was to ever cross the threshold he would suddenly subject himself, his friends, and his audience to the magnifying glass of transphobes and the online hate machine
there is absolutely zero comfort to be found in that reality if he's a repper, which he almost certainly is
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>>38587072
Racism isn't bad either, bub.
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>>38597165
this is a bretty good analysis but i would add that his friends seem pretty supportive and even his audience probably wouldn't care that much

just that being any kind of online public figure puts a magnifying glass on you from the most insane online transphobes, which are often other reppers and closeted fags trying to redirect insane amounts of selfhatred on other people

i feel bad tbhon. it's def eating at him internally and the options he has aren't great either way
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>>38597165
>as someone in my 20s that had friends, family, a public image to maintain, etc. there was nothing joyous about any of that
real, god I had everything put together but it was a balancing act for my best effort on putting on a good show mostly for my own willfully ignorant self
but you can't even start building a life as yourself until you stop repressing
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i wonder what his voice would sound like while voice training and trying to run game grumps at the same time
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>>38599635
not to mention the occasional VA gig
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>>38597467
>>38597165
agp can be beaten
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>>38600060
yeah, by taking your pills and accepting yourself, it's not a disease it's who you are
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>>38600060
if you're on this board espousing that belief, you havent beaten anything
you're the trans equivalent to mormons on tlc talking about how they've overcome their homosexual urges and then we look over the content of their life and it's just them constantly plagued by said urges
you cannot beat what you are, you can only accept it, and anyone resisting themselves is a society captured, traumatized person that needs to rectify themselves internally before they speak to me about their "victory"
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>>38600040
>>38599635
he's been really into doing obnoxious girl voices and specifically learning about and playing with his voice to do whatever character for decades, I think we might not even notice except when he busts out the deliberately obnoxious girl character voice while LPing
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>>38600060
>t.
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>>38600107
whenever theres a female character he literally will be the first person to start voicing them. even when playing with a woman he will start voicing a woman as soon as he sees a female character speaking, even interrupting other people who start voicing the character themselves. also he will always pick the prettiest female character on all games he plays
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>>38600107
>>38600146
yeah but i doubt his woman voice will be the "OMAGAD BECKY YOU BITCH" voice he does
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>>38600152
>>38600146
right that's my point, arin may already have a perfectly passing voice for all we know (and I can see it being a refuge for someone in that position)
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>>38600097
>>38600099
>>38600136
i accept it, but i dont think i need to end up transitioning
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>>38600879
why not? what makes you think you're different, or special, or that you can deal with it without transitioning?
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>>38600916
lots of people deal with it without transitioning
hell some people even detransition

the agp is there, i can't get rid of it, but i also don't think I need to go full transition

I can integrate and find a balance. I still like being a male
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>>38601010
you didn't answer my questions
how many people deal with it without transitioning, and how does it go for them?
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>>38601020
there's no exact figures lol, there's likely an element of toupee fallacy
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>>38601045
so why are you using that non-existent basis as meaningful data in your decision-making?
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>>38601067
because there's not great data either way

also one should consider individual context & desire
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>>38601082
what do you mean? there's tons of data showing the significant success of transition in treating (not curing or eliminating) gender dysphoria

even if you're still stuck on the AGP thing, the man who most popularized the term and did "studies" on it (falsified data to support his initial assumptions) would still recommend treatment for someone like you
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>>38601098
yeah im familiar with AGP. I am familiar with esoteric Blanchard lore from bailey to phil illy.
I'm also familiar with myself & how things manifest.

I do not want to be a woman in real life. I just want to be comfortable with myself as I am and who I am, not becoming another person.

I don't seek to repress and kick away any cross gender/gnc impulses but I also don't want to end me in favour of some her
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>>38601125
>I also don't want to end me in favour of some her
so then don't
integrate those facets of yourself instead of denying them, or trying to kill off your old identity, even if that means compromise or figuring out a middle ground on typical transition steps
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>>38601140
yeah that's what im kinda aiming for
im a bit fickle and dpdr though so I sway between what I want to pursue

id like to find a balance. im still figuring it out. im not sure if ill end up becoming one of you
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>>38601160
ok, tranny
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>>38601164
dutasteride is not HRT
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>>38601172
you're still a tranny even if you're not taking either but repressing
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>>38601189
im a man who has some desires to be a cute transfem at times, not a tranny
anyway this kind of convo is dangerous for me
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>>38601205
ok tranny
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>>38601220
no im enby
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>>38601226
if you say so, tranny
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>>38601231
transwoman*
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>>38601244
trans woman*
don't do a terf/rightoid dogwhistle if you're gonna be fuckin precious about the language
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>>38601256
dyke
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>>38601285
tranny
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>>38601305
goodnight lezzer
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>>38601311
sweet dreams, tranner
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>>38601311
>>38601324
get a room already
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>>38602144
not until egoraptor takes her pills
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>>38578825
eek
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>>38583461
>>38594022
Imagine the excuses he gives. they probably doesn't even have to ask since he's bound to feel self-conscious and need to defend that he DEFINITELY DOESN'T want to transition.
Sadly I bet it goes way over their heads given how cis people rarely even consider that trans people are even a think let alone the explanation for all his weird behavior over the years
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>>38602714
it just hurts because I spent so many years bending over backwards mentally to make those same rationalizations work, until I couldn't... I know what it's like
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bump for great justice
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ARIN PLEASE TRANSITION
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>>38604369
how do we help her? being harassed to transition doesn't work
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>>38581730
if it was me i would be sad about how big and stupid i look compared to her
probably why i don't have gfs
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>>38603289
that's why this hurts to watch, because everyone can relate to the same rationalizations of trying to make the trans thoughts go away before they fully understood this was something that was never going to go away.

cis people can't relate to how insanely painful it is to be in this state. and it just gets worse and worse as you get older.
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>>38597165
>>38594022
>>38590055
>>38589793
All of this is true. People really underestimate how soul crushing transition can be at any age. It only gets worse as the pain only grows with age and repping to the point where it overshadows whatever joy you would've had transitioning in the first place. And that's not even considering the celebrity factor. Don't listen to late-transitioners, there is absolutely a time limit to this stuff unless you have unlimited honfidence, which might be another tomb in of itself.
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>>38605886
>might be
Honfidence is one of the great mysteries of the human psyche to me but I still feel totally comfortable saying it definitely is rooted in some form of torment for the person who has it. Absolutely do not believe that you can be honfident and genuinely happy.
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>>38606766
>Absolutely do not believe that you can be honfident and genuinely happy.
You could easily break this down to
>Absolutely do not believe that you can be ugly and confident and be genuinely happy
And that's just not true
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>>38606807
No, that breakdown doesn't work. Honfidence involves a strong component of total delulu, it's not just "confidence in spite of ugliness" which I agree is entirely possible.
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>>38606824
I think you've just created a strawman without knowing it. Honfidence to you has become a perfectly attackable phenomena when in reality you're just describing someone being ugly while trans.
You might disagree but at the root of it, its just someone that has traits that don't belong to society's definition of their gender identity so they appear ugly or malformed in a way that angers others. You can definitely be happy in spite of that, especially if you're embedded in the right social circles.
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>>38606848
Being ugly is the worst thing you can be as a trans person
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>>38605886
kys
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He knows he missed his chance.
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>>38606848
Niggy...
Honfidence is what makes balding 50-somethings wear fishnets three sizes too small for them and then post selfies on Reddit talking about how three months on a hondose of E has finally made them look and feel like a woman, anon is not just talking about "ugly but happy".
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>>38608002
>honfidence is my uniquely defined strawman
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>>38608107
Okay, make a thread polling /tttt/ about what it means, see for yourself whether our definition (I am not the other anon) is more common or your own "honfidence literally just means being a hon and normally confident" one.

Hint: there is literally no reason for your invented definition to even be a coinage.
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since Arin is probably reading this thread i’m just going to post this here
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>>38608250
oh god oh fuck it's worse than i remember
never rep, girls
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>>38608250
Lmao
It's completely exact
He probably does that fetal thing rn
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>>38608250
This is sad :(
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lole
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>>38608250
damn john 50 you could at least shave and allow yourself some feminity
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>>38608250
Does GD really come in "bouts" like this?
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i feel bad for participating in the past in the online discussion of this; i used to really think i was clever but now i just feel cruel
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>>38609680
it can come and go, sometimes you'll even have a good few years where you're really sure it's over and you've given up on your dreams and squashed that part of yourself down into oblivion, but it's still there taking up cognitive and emotional capacity
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>>38609829
worrying
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>>38609851
take your pills
repping does not work
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>>38609851
nta
but you'll have to accept it, and accept these risks. we've been dealt a shit hand.
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>>38609861
nor does trooning for a lot of people
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>>38609885
doesn't mean repping works for those people either lol
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>>38609895
yeah i know lol. hence a shit hand.
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>>38609903
well, you're better off trying and at least living as yourself a bit more in some ways, even if you don't fully transition
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>>38609680
YUP
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>>38609944
oh 100%. there is no 1 universal option is all i'm saying.
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>>38609861
>>38609871
no, I will be ugly and creepy
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>>38609994
by "accept it" i don't mean you need to transition. just don't be in denial.
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>>38609991
>there is no 1 universal option
I agree completely, but it's well-established that transition in some form is the only thing that makes it possible to stop getting worse or even maybe have a chance of getting better

>>38609994
too bad, your dysphoria doesn't care
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>>38610019
>>38610027
Okay, repping it is then.
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>>38610037
I mean see how it goes. I'd advise considering what matters to you in life. This is something quite individual.
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>>38610037
wdym okay? I'm telling you repping doesn't work
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>>38610079
nta chudette, but define "work"
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>>38610067
I want kids and a normal life one day so it's better to put it all away

>>38610079
Oh it'll work. It's just a passing fetish
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>>38610109
ehhhhh
>I want kids and a normal life
I'm no pinkpiller but the latter is likely out of the question.
With the former I want you to be realistic. Please don't denial yourself into a position where you troon out on your kids.
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>>38610145
I wouldn't do that to them. If I had a fulfilling sex life I wouldn't feel this way at all, anyway, so a wife will fix me
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>>38610079
You're being way too categorical, nothing is ever that clear-cut. Repping can be the worse of two bad options and it can also be the better.

I'm pretty sure the other guy has gone over to trolling you at this point but it's nevertheless the case that "repping never works" is pure TRA propaganda and doesn't reflect the complexity of real life.
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>>38610109
>I want kids
>i want to pass down the troon gene and ensure someone else suffers my fate
kys
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>>38610229
>"repping never works" is pure TRA propaganda and doesn't reflect the complexity of real life.
nta
everything is so extremely complex. i think psychedelics are worth the nightmarish experience just so you can appreciate how complex life is beneath the blur.

>>38610253
my mum showed me a picture of my dad wearing a bra a few weeks ago. dammit
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>>38610253
Troon gene isn't real
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>>38610270
>>38610282
The duality of man (in a bra)
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>>38610229
>and it can also be the better.
how? categorically we have too much evidence to the contrary, especially if you consider the broad variations on both repression and transition - so elaborate

>>38610099
address or deal with the issue effectively
they think they can "beat" a fundamental aspect of themselves, and that is foolish and destructive
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>>38610270
it's over for you
at least have the decency to end the curse
>>38610282
retard
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moggs me
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>>38610323
>at least have the decency to end the curse

Yeah I'm not having kids
I don't currently plan on transitioning, but either way I'm not fit to be a parent (even GD aside, I'm mentally unstable)

I ultimately hope I can do some good for others & myself in this life.
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>>38610253
This is a realy valid objection, unlike the tard shit that other anon's spouting against repping in general. We know this runs in families, and if you're suffering with dyphoria the last thing you should want is to inflict it on your own beloved children. Don't have bio kids.
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>>38610400
or you chance it and love and support your children no matter how they turn out
it doesn't have to be a curse
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>>38610362
Not having kids is the lamest thing you can do

>>38610400
Zero evidence it runs in families. There is no tranny gene.
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>>38610459
kys
>>38610493
coping retard
i bet you drive while buzzed too
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>>38610514
what do you even mean by that?
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>>38610493
>Not having kids is the lamest thing you can do
AGP/GD aside I'd be a poor father. I'm mentally unwell, prone to bad temper & I struggle with socialising irl. P autistic.

I have glimmers of good humanity, but I won't let a glimmer deceive me. I consider beyond myself. Some selfish fantasy of myself as a happy dad enjoying pet kids & a wife won't truly come to be.

Besides with my temperament I'd probably not enjoy it all that much
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>>38610493
>Zero evidence it runs in families.
That's far from true, there may not be any rigidly scientific double-blind evidence but that's not the only kind there is. It doesn't even have to be a gene, religion demonstrably also runs in families for example.
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>>38610522
you're coping to justify shitty selfish behavior
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>>38608250
at least he did well for 50 yrs
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>>38610525
Embrace that glimmer.

>>38610534
Religion runs in families because of how children are raised in the church, retard. That has nothing to do with fucking genetics.

> there may not be any rigidly scientific double-blind evidence
AKA there's no fucking evidence. Retard.
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>>38610310
>how?
Just for (a relevant) example – if you're too old and have too much of an established life, like Arin, even having a John 50 melty every few months may be the lesser evil compared to becoming a divorced bog honster with alienated kids. That doesn't mean the breakdowns aren't happening, or aren't awful. It just means they may be MORE endurable than losing everything else in your life.

And yes, that's a miserable choice to have to make. Doesn't matter. Some of us have to make it.
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>>38610560
this
unironically envy john 50
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>>38610624
why is it better to keep experiencing that just because you're old or have an established life? you're not connecting those points
>have to
why?
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>>38610597
Niggulus, by your standards there's no evidence that transsexualism even exists. GD is diagnosed by symptom comparison to a DSM checklist. It could be fourteen different conditions crammed into a trenchcoat as far as the hard science is concerned.
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>>38610597
>Embrace that glimmer.
lol fuck off satan. I am not so selfish nor deluded
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>>38610645
You genuinely don't see how it can be better to experience a mental breakdown every 3-6 months than to lose your family, job and social respect and look like a mutilated freak?

I'm not even contesting that for some people option 2 might genuinely be the better one. All I'm saying is it should be obvious that some people will equally genuinely find option 1 to be preferable.
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>>38610711
>lose your family, job and social respect and look like a mutilated freak
and where is that projection coming from? why assert that baselessly as a foregone conclusion? I hate repper logic so much after depending on it for so long
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>>38610711
at least take dutasteride
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>>38610751
>projection
>foregone conclusion
I'm not even a repper, you humongous retard. I'm just trying to explain to you that for *some* people, this might be the type of choice they're faced with and it's grossly simplsitic to pretend that there's ony one legitimate choice. For fuck's sake at least TRY to have some empathy with people stuck in a shit situation instead of mindlessly spouting some simplistic ideology. They're not even that different from you.
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>>38610835
but you're not asking for empathy, you're asking for me to agree with and permit or support a way of thinking that is rooted in illogical assumptions

I WAS a repper
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>>38610892
Were you also an autist? It's not an illogical assumption for someone to be faced with a disagreeable choice and select the one less unpleasant to him. Even if the other choice would have been less unpleasant to *you*.
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>>38610921
so weird, you're still framing this all on an asymmetric set of assumptions about the outcomes for a hypothetical person and using absolute statements based on those assumptions to encourage repression

are you sure you're not a repper? lol
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>>38608191
There would be zero consensus because like most slurs its irrationally used to attack whomever the attacker dislikes. I don't need to make a new thread to see that
>Honfidence is what makes balding 50-somethings wear fishnets three sizes too small for them and then post selfies on Reddit talking about how three months on a hondose of E has finally made them look and feel like a woman
isn't a working definition and is just a strawman to attack non-passing trans women.



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