Normal gays that just want to be left the hell alone won
>>38582552You got another thing coming
>>38582552> normal> commits sodomyanon just bc you don't act like a flamer and can stealth doesn't mean they think you're going to heaven. you're still a pedo groomer in their eyes.
>>38582552>implying the 7 mountains Christians which will have trump by the balls with their voting block won't roll back the past 100 years of social change if given the chanceWhat, exactly, will stop them now? Don't you get it? Not even democrats will be able to defend the letters or they'll lose even more of congress
>>38582552Aren't they trying to reverse gay marriage in the states now?
>>38582552ur gonna be in the camps too vro
>>38583803Here's exactly how that's going to go just so everyone knows>red state will pass anti gay marriage law>It'll get blocked by federal courts >will get fast tracked to the supreme court>sc will rule 6-3 overruling the obergefel decision (alito has outright said it was a mistake and should be reversed, white girl is a catholic, gorsuch hates the gays too, Uncle Clarence Thomas wants to be white so he's on board, and the others will vote in favor because they don't want to get seal team 6'd)>Republicans will pass a giga-DOMA bill and make gay marriage illegal nationwide, bring back sodomy laws, anti crossdressing law, public markings for trannies, and a nightmare of the most extreme Christian social policy you can imagine, all with the main punishment being labeled a sex offender and prison time>convicted "sex offenders"will overflow prisons, and will join the immigrants in the open air camps in Texas and die of exposure and thirstThis is the future you chose
>>38582552why do you think we're fighting for your rights and opposing conservatives?
pretty much. homos that embraced the libtarded bourgeoisie status quo now live quietly while tranners are being fed into the wood chipperI explained this in another thread. trans people have to become normies.
>>38583903trans people want to become tradwives, they are not opposing conservatives
>>38583927you're getting fed into it next, once anti-tranny sentiment is normalised
>>38583998we don't want to be """tradwives"""
>>38583927/thread
>>38583998My nigga all i want is for my estro to be cheap and for my bear to be fat
>>38584104most of you do
>>38583838yay i get to go camping with all my frens
>>38583998>trans people want to become tradwiveswhen conservetards say tradwife what they really mean is sex slave
>>38584232trannies literally find nothing hotter than being enslaved sexually by a man...
>>38584104You’re a whore
>>38584255Wrong
>>38584270no im not
>>38583886I sincerely hope you aren’t a lawyer or law student, because your comprehension of legal opinions sucks.First off, if you’re referring to the Dobbs decision and the general shade cast on all substantive due process rights, that’s not really applicable to gay marriage. Re-read the Obergefell decision; there’s just as much in there about equal protection as anything else. The problem with Roe was that it was LITERALLY only predicated on the retard-tier theory of substantive due process.EITHER WAY, if you bother to think one millimeter more deeply than “left vs. right” when it comes to the Court, you would recognize that there are three votes—at the absolute most—that would fuck with gay marriage. Thomas and Alito (duh), and then mayyyyyyyybe Gorsuch. Barrett, Kavanaugh, Roberts are moderate (though maybe not by unhinged tranny standards), cosmopolitan, and care about institutional legitimacy. Cry harder. Like it or not, there is a difference in the eyes of intelligent moderates between hons beating up girls in sports and two men who just want the picket fence life.
>>38582552>be fags>hate christians>demand right to christian marriagenext time don't be antagonist day 0.
>>38583489Sodomy includes oral sex
>>38586014Do you think people got married before Christianity existed?
>>38586020can you read? a christian marriage isn't just a marriage. demanding your marriage take place in a church is completely antagonistic. fags aren't christians. it's telling they wanted nothing to do with jews or muslims, as both groups would destroy them in seconds for even thinking about it. christians just happen to be door mats.
>>38586026How many gays are marrying in church?
>>38586026>it's telling they wanted nothing to do with jews or muslimsMost people in the west are raised Christian and not Jewish or Muslim
>>38586026Do you acknowledge that some marriages happen in courthouses?
>>38585979SCOTUS gave POTUS more than royal immunity just to keep Trump out of jail and you think they won't overturn Obergfell?
>>38586130Holy non sequitur. “SCOTUS did a thing I don’t like so surely they’ll do another thing I don’t like!” Genuinely kys. What does the balance / separation of powers between the branches have to do with individual constitutional rights, exactly? Also, you understand that the immunity decision strengthens dem executive power just as much as republican, right?
>>38585979Anon you're acting as though you're still living in boomer America. You're living in Trump's America now, the old rules no longer apply. They'll decide what result they want first and contort "textualism" to fit their right wing Christian restoration. These people are convinced people like you and I have already broken every rule and that they are therefore justified to take any measures they see fit to rectify the situation along their valuesIt's a brave new world, I wish I could be as naiive as you are about these things
>>38586244>implying we will ever get a president that's not Trump until the day he diesOh, sweet summer child. Term limits are just words on paper
>>38586249>You're living in Trump's AmericaYour body, My choice forever :)
>>38586290>she thinks her repper status won't be analyzed and determined by a government AI and she won't be thrown to the camps too Misery loves company, after all
>>38586319I'm a man, schizo
>>38586380>I'm a man, schizo>says the "man" compulsively posting on the tranny board on 4chanOkay John, see you at 50!
>>38586394See you at thirt....
>>38586420What is this post meant to imply? Only 3 kinds of people obsessively think about trannies:>trannies themselves >people who want to fuck trannies>people who want to be a trannyWhich one are you?
>>38586437I want to fuck a tranny, a specific tranny not any tranny
>>38586546Then why do you take such pleasure in watching our suffering, knowing full well the intentions of this government is to eradicate "transgender ideology"? I don't know how one destroys an idea, so I'm going to assume this takes the form of punishing anyone who believes a certain way. Why do you think your specific personal interests will be respected? And what makes you think they won't throw bisexual men in prison too? I can't count how many times I've been called a "bipedo" so I'm sure you'll be next on the list
>>38585979>that’s not really applicable to gay marriage.Thomas's concurrence in Dobbs outright says that Obergefell and Lawrence were wrong. Roberts was also in the dissent on Obergefell, so I have no idea why you'd think he all of a sudden supports it. >and care about institutional legitimacyAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAThe only one who thinks about "institutional legitimacy" is Roberts, but he doesn't let that get in the way of retard tier decisions like Trump's presidential immunity. Barret, thinks that being gay is merely a "sexual preference." With regards to gay marriage she has said "marriage and family founded on the indissoluble commitment of a man and a woman." She has also talked about how Price Waterhouse v. Hopkins was wrongly decided because of the Both Barret and Kavanaugh were more than happy to rule on an obviously fraudulent case in 303 Creative.You're not even a good liar. You're just standing there trying to claim the sky isn't blue and then acting smug about it.
>>38582552>Yeah, we just got to support all these based chuds because don't you know the libtards saying "We respect you as a person" is just a cover for them to push woke agendas like gay marriage?Oh wow, you're totally just a "normal gay" and not some shill. I know conservatives are fundamentally retarded and you think that this post is super clever, but this is the most obvious shit that I have ever seen. Herbs in all fields.
Okay then fuck off. If you want to be alone then be alone and don't share your thoughts with me
why can't we all be friends
>>38586437Wtf
>>38583797>2 more weeks!President Musk isn’t bending on pajeets, why would he bend on fags?
>>38586437There are only 3 types of people that think about homelessness>the homeless>people who want to fuck the homeless>people who secretly want to be homelesshonestly true. Pedophilia too.
>>38583886holy based
>>38583886>everyone voted out of office in the midterm because the vibe is so bleak now>liberals get a supermajority >”wow the was weird” genociderino
>>38588582>>38588601>>38588613>>38588687Mmm the /pol/bot brigade decided to show upYou gonna crop some screenshots and post them in your discord?
>>38583797>roll back the past 100 years of social changeDear Jesus, please let this happen.
>>38583886Who the fuck cares? What self-respecting faggot wants to get anal-married, just to make a mockery of the institution of marriage? Let's stay in our own lanes and fuck discreetly. It might even *gasp* produce fewer AIDS monkeys.
>>38588731>MmmI wonder how often you'd get your ass kicked if you went around and said that at the opening of your sentences in public.
>>38582552the guy that allowed this to happen will make gay marriage illegal, apperantly
>all these (You)s in the past hourGuess I struck a nerve huh, spoke too much truth and now you gotta bury it under a mile of shitposts?
>>38588844>I just don't I don't feel right about it. I'm against it, and I take a lot of heat because I come from New York. You know, for New York it's like, how can you be against gay marriage? But I'm opposed to gay marriage.>If I'm elected, I would be very strong on putting certain judges on the bench that I think maybe could change things,I don't like the way they ruled. I disagree with the Supreme CourtBoth of those are direct quotes from Trump on gay marriage in general and the Obergefell ruling specifically.
>>38583886anon, I'm not saying there shouldn't be Gay Marriage, but it is impossible to be intellectually honest and say that when they ratified the 14th amendment in 1868 their intent was to prohibit the states from limiting marriage to just one man and one woman. There is a better argument that the intention of the14th amendment was to stop states from limiting marriage to those 18 years or older since in many states 13 year olds could get married at the time. But that is also incorrect.
>>38588731Is /pol/ in the walls too?
>>38590375What a weird tangent to go on about the legality of being able to duck a 13 year old. But that's totally separate issue that I don't want to get intoThe purpose of the 14th amendment is really what you're getting at, so let's start there. The 14th amendment was originally ratified to protect certain protected classes (at the time, recently freed slaves) from specifically state tyrrany. Because the thinking was that black people would be effectively rendered slaves again by southern states passing laws which would abridge their rights. Essentially, to ensure no matter what state you lived in you could expect a reasonable standard of living regardless of your skin color. Now these rights were eventually eroded by Jim crow laws, and the SC allowed those laws for a while because they themselves were bigoted assholes who didn't give a shit about black people, but when the Due Process Revolution began under the Warren court those prior rulings were rendered irrelevant.From that, the court has over the past 60 years or so expanded the sort of person protected by the 14th amendment. Essentially, anyone who would have suffered extreme hardship prior to ~1960 was protected from discrimination under the 14th amendment in the United States, regardless of state. On to of this, we rely on the 14th amendment to prevent general state tyrrany as well, it's why you have the right to a fair trial within your state. Oh, and you also wouldn't have Miranda rights without the 14th amendment.I say all this to say essentially, our entire modern (mostly fair) legal system is entirely predicated on the 14th amendment being interpreted in ways the people who passed it couldn't have intended. So when you use the rationalization that gays shouldn't be protected to marry regardless of state because the signors didn't intend them to be, you are pulling out a HUGE foundational brick in the wall of what we consider today to be important.
>>38590779Are you saying you don't browse /pol/?
>>38590973>tl; dr because I ran out of spaceIf you like not being forced to confess to crimes under Miranda protections, you should support the 14th amendment being interpreted broadly
>>38590987Yes. That boards been cooked since 2015
>>38583886holy kino
>>38586244>non sequiturAre you trolling?
>>38590973>The purpose of the 14th amendment is really what you're getting at, so let's start there. The 14th amendment was originally ratified to protect certain protected classes (at the time, recently freed slaves)Yes and that is what it's purpose was and is. To give another example after the ratification of the 14th many women sued under that amendment saying the equal protection clause meant they could not be denied the right to vote because of their sex. The courts uniformly rejected that argument and they were right to do so. Native Americans filed similar lawsuits also demanding the right to vote and courts also rejected those claims. The courts were right to do so in both cases because that was not the purpose of the 14th amendment. The job of the court when interpreting statutes and constitutional provisions is apply the legislative intent of the drafters and ratifiers of those provisions. So because of this neither women nor Native Americans can vote still right? No, one was changed by constitutional amendment, the other by statute. This is how laws are supposed to change. Process matters in a democracy. What's more in recent history many states on their own, before Obergefell, acted on their own to expand marriage to same-sex couples. This is the way it is supposed to happen. To circumvent this process, even if the end result is desirable is cheating and violates basic principles of Rule of Law.
>>38590973>What a weird tangent to go on about the legality of being able to duck a 13 year old. But that's totally separate issue that I don't want to get intoWell the point of bringing that up isn't to advocate for child marriage it is ask why the 14th amendment, in your view, protects same-sex marriage which was universally prohibited in every state at the time of ratification of the 14th, but doesn't protect child marriage which was allowed in many states at that same time. Again I'm not asking for a moral justification for same-sex marriage exists but not for child marriage, I think we both agree that child marriage is morally wrong, I'm asking why one falls under the 14th amendment and the other doesn't.
>>38591784>>38591920Oh you're just arguing in bad faith, pretty sure I've argued with you about this beforeI've said what I wanted to say, I'll let people decide for themselves which argument makes more sense, that the 14th amendment is important to keep broad to keep enjoying the freedoms we all enjoy, or whether we should just be cool with the government slowly eroding it's protections until it effectively protects nobody under the thin guise of a constitutional amendment which will never happen because every red state would vote it down just like the ERA.Not gonna waste my brain cells trying to adequately debate someone who is likely deliberately making ridiculous arguments that aren't based in reality but result in less rights for people. Not like I can do much about it other than post my thoughts on 4chan tho so I'll leave it be
>>38592418>but result in less rights for peopleI wonder if 40 years from now the court will be made up of justices who share your view on the importance of the court in protecting and expanding rights of people and will discover that the 14th amendment also protects the rights to marry 13 year olds. Perhaps they will even cite Obergefell and say, "No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice, and family." And using that flowery language protect the rights of those adults and 13 year olds, which is the new group of that era which all the smart, sophisticated, in-the-know people view as the Civil Rights Fight of their time.
>>38588687Bring it forth
