Can men without chimerism or swyer's syndrome get pregnant?
>>38582829Her face is awful, no way shes been on T for much long. Barely even looks like a dyke-y lesbian, nevermind a man
>>38582839Is it possible some people have a different response to testosterone, like I was reading somewhere there was a study that 25% of trans women never fully suppress their testosterone, maybe there's some like ultra pooners who just don't process testosterone as well or have lots of estrogen or something
>>38582880nope. virilization is a one way street.a transman on testosterone long enough will virilize and look male.This is just a super early T guy
>>38583052>and look male.what does that mean
>>38583063skin thickening is the big one.but lean muscles develop and change the shape of the face to a more masculine one thickening of the muscles around the neck and shoulders, even without exercise.And I mean facial hair is a genetic thing and not guaranteed, but more body hair is almost certain
>>38583096>change the shape of the face to a more masculine onedoes the skull change?
>>38583113no
>>38583113Yes over time, but geared more towards +10 years down the line. the normal remodeling process of your bones are effected by virilization, so just as a man keeps looking more masculine long after puberty is over, the same will happen to a transman on testosterone for a long time.
>>38583177can the skull get longer and wider?
>>38583207Not likely no. It can have the appearance of being longer and wider through thickening around the jawline, cheeks, and brow, but it's not stretching out by any means. The masseter and temporalis virilizing will give that effect though
>>38583231Do you think people can detect the difference between a virilized poonerskull and a cis male skull?
>>38583245You'd probably clock something else before ever getting to that point. it's a close call
>>38583277I mean, humans have undergone thousands of years of evolution to ensure our brains can efficiently distinguish the sexes.
>>38583283naturally.in the same vein, we weren't injecting ourselves with the hormones of the opposite sex to develop their secondary characteristics, so we have little experience in that field.That was a really boring gotcha for the fodder i gave you. come on now.
>>38583303Is primary more important than secondary?
>>38583310do you grab the genitalia of every person you meet?
>>38583335I don't need to to know what their birth sex is.
man made horrors
>>38583676Right.In society secondary sex traits decides what role you get to play in this world, in the bedroom primary sex traits do, but even then there's toys for everything.
>>38582829I can somehow stomach men being wem but I cannot stomach women being men.
>>38583766Is it possible primary sex characteristics influence secondary traits?
>>38583810Not if your levels are right.
>>38583817Is it possible hormones cannot entirely override the actions of chromosomes?
>>38582839Nah I knew a cis man who looks like this but fat
>>38583148Fym no?Yes it does for FTM on T, not for MTF (FFS is a solution)
>>38583283Unless if you have an x-ray vision or a chromo detector, you don't...Get a fucking grip, anon.
>>38583976Do you believe people cannot detect the sex of others without seeing them naked?
>>38583937yes in following casesY chromosome has something not controlled by hormones (please explain besides SRY)X chromosome in XY configuration is damaged and has no backup (lots of colorblindness)Y chromosome has something that is or is not controlled by hormones but cannot be expressed in trans men due to XXplease state what unique genes exist on Y but not X and what they do before continuing. All I've found is SRY and some genes for sperm production (irrelevant in pooners/tranners)
>>38584003please state which genes make you left or right handedif we don't know that for sure, it means we are just making it up and hand dominance is a myth
>>38584009no certainty (of course) but there are several associated genes:https://norgenbiotek.com/blog/being-left-handed-genetic#:~:text=However%2C%20the%20use%20of%20biobanks,TUBB%20and%20MAP2%20and%20MAPT).
>>38582829Tbh, PMDS could happen but you rarely get a pussy to get impregnated or a fully working uterus
>>38584031if you understood which genes causes handedness you could explain to me which ones do and how they do it instead of just linking me some long thing nether of us have ever read or understand
>>38583283Yes, by characteristics such as ass and tits anon
>>38584039Its like the sperg genes anon, they technically exist but theres so much of them that they mostly signal likeness of autism rather than a on/off switch
>>38584039ok faggot troll trannyboards all night then, surely that doesn't say anything about youhope your son disowns you when you troon on him in 30 years
>>38584096I think autism has become more of a generalized way to cast aspersions than any specific medical state.
>>38584034PMDS?
are poonahs men?
>>38584618Yes
>>38582839Looks like man to me but it is possible that he stopped t for while to breed like book suggests
>>38585470what do men look like
>>38585482They look like that
>>38583283Humans did not have hrt for those thousands of years, retard.
>>38585509like whatcan you use your words
>>38585557Can you use your eyes? Look at the picture
>>38582829do these people not know a womb needs a menstrual cyclus to function and that taking testosterone, something pooners do, makes that womb infertile???men(including ftms) can’t get pregnant, saying otherwise is denying science. why is the left so addicted to losing and taking every lgbt person down with them???
>>38585579Testosterone isn't birth control you can get pregnant while taking it but the baby would come out weird
>>38585579You can get pregnant as long as you have ovaries, thats a fact
>>38585588it’s not birth control cuz birth control doesn’t make u permanently infertile. hrt makes u infertile this is basic science that for some reason these people who scream men can get pregnant deny
>>38585568I want to see how your brain works, I know how my brain works. Why can't you describe which specific features make this person seem male to you?
>>38585600There's no guarantee it will make you infertile you could take testosterone for 15 years and you could get pregnant when you go off it
>>38585579I read about poon who was doing it raw with his boyfriend for 4 years and thought he could not get pregnant because of t. He had to get abortion
>>38585605I don't do stereotypes. I don't think men are caricatures. That's why I don't ascribe specific features to them.
>>38585613poondosed
All FtMs should be forced to get a state-subsidised hysto-oophorectomy.t. FtM
>>38585613boybortion
>>38585605My brain sees him as male. Women don't look like that
>>38585618Nah. Nature finds a way like they told us in jurassic parkTrans men are made for breeding
>>38582829>FTM>has face piercingsEvery fucking time
>>38584496Persistent mullerean duct syndrome, basically dick n balls + some female internal structures
>>38586087but like my understanding is the mullerian duct either becomes the penis or the vagina so it is just ducts inside or whati feel like there's a lot of minor subtle differences here that are hard to appreciate without like specialized medical knowledge of intersex conditions
>>38586096No, ducts are the inside parts
>>38586146my understanding - in undifferentiated fetuses, yes, but they then either go outside or in and form the glans of the penis or the walls of the vagina so its sort of like one or the other, outside or in
>>38586159No, the homology is penis-clitoris, scrotum-labia, seminal vesicles- egg vesicles, there is no equivalent for the uterus, but the penis is a different part from the ducts, wolfian create seminal vesicles/prostate, mullerian create egg ducts/uterus/cervix
>>38586177I remember reading the homology is disputed on some parts -also penis glans would be the clitoris, the shaft is what the mullerian ducts transformed intomullerian would still become something in males if they started off with themI mean its called PERSISTENT mullerian
>>38586186Mullerian ducts are the ones that create female parts, they usually recede
>>38586202the human body usually turns one shape into a similar shapethe mullerian ducts become something else in males
>>38586237No, they recede, similar to wolfian in females
