all gays were born that way, it is 100% genetic and the only people who disagree are biased homophobes who support conversion therapy and want gays to not exist at all anywhere

nothing turns a straight person gay, doesn't exist, doesn't happen

>>38583102
so you were molested?

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>>38583093
I made a thread on 4chan and immediately turned into a faggot.

>>38583093
My first noticeable attractions were to other boys.
Wasn't molested.
Didn't masturbate/use porn as a kid.
Raised sheltered and Christian.
It had to be something already within me because every external factor was directing me to heterosexuality.

>>38583093
my parents use to drop me off at my cousins house and it was a few boys older than me and they all shared a bedroom and i would cry and feel uneasy as the night approached and call them to pick me up and tell them i was home sick but really i didnt want them to put things in my butt or suck their pp's or have them suck my pp.

i would always want to go home and never want to sleep over.
sometimes they would drive there at 11+ at night and get me, sometimes i just had to wait.

i got diddled probably about 20+ times in the span of some years and it began to stop around 12-13.

i had to confront my older cousin because he was trying to get me to go in an older 18 wheeler trailer that was used for hay storage.
and in there he would usually play doctor on me and it would turn into butt things and sucking dicks.

i ended up fighting him around puberty and it stopped.


sadly my sexuality was split. i always loved girls. but my brain is split and i get off to being used.
i dont feel 100% with men or women. or anyone. and i had to figure out what was trauma and what is love and know when i am swaying between the 2.


by mid/late teens and 20s i was pretty much the perfect boy toy for the bdsm/kink scene. and have alot of doms and dommes.

i chilled out as i got older.

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>>38583127
Gayden here, never understood this logic. Never understood where it comes from... My father was molested but he's a cis straight man. I was never molested but I'm a gay ftm. I can't see the correlation between gay = molested

>>38583368
same except tranny

>>38583470
anon, you are a straight woman

>I can't see the correlation between gay = molested
its a couple things
1) gay boys are not supposed to have any sexuality, they are not supposed to know they are before puberty or want sex at all before puberty, and even then their sex drive is scandalized and unwanted by straight men (who are almost everyone)
but really its just equating pedos to gays because pedos are uniformly hated and seen as ok to be violent and cruel towards and that's what heteros want to do towards gays too

as well, gays are such a small slice of the population, often, especially in rural areas, gays will have to choose someone much older or younger and conservatives want to capitalize on this as predatory rather than a matter of circumstance and rarity

and finally, I guess the idea is that anyone willing to tell others they were molested by a man probably enjoyed it and is bragging because most men would be so ashamed to be fucked by another man they would never tell a soul
its a way of in general weaponizing gay male sexuality and equating any non purely normative same sex behavior as criminal and meriting violence against it.

>>38583607
I'm gayden it says in my post
But thank you for answering the question random anon

>>38585174
gay men don't have vaginas

>>38585182
Looks like it's your first time meeting one then

>>38585193
im talking to a straight woman who doesn't respect gay identity

>>38583093
I just found I liked guys one day, and it went beyond just their looks too. I just clicked with them better.
>Did you develop a fetish from porn?
Frotting, but otherwise I'm pretty vanilla and just want a monogamous relationship with another nerdy autist guy.

>>38585194
If it ain't my money or my man it doesn't deserve respect. Don't waste your energy on respecting concepts and ideas.

>>38583093
born this way

>>38583093
I'm bi, not gay, but by the time I was six I wanted to kiss girls and boys. Never molested or anything, had a normal childhood with caring, present parents.

>>38583093
oh man ever since i was like sentient i knew i liked guys lol

>>38585194
Nta but nobody needs to respect your "gay indetity"
Go fuck yourself

I am sexuall disabled and can basically only get sexual pleasure from anak stimulation
I figure that my attraction from men stemmed from being aware of that early
Or maybe it's a coincidence that both happened to the same person
Or I was born that way who knows
>>38583102
I think gays are good and I don't really buy the born that way argument. It denies homosexual pepple agency. I think it's good to be able to say I fuck men because I choose to fuck men and it's simple as that. I feel like most straight men end up admitting there's a few men they'd go bi for and most gay men i know have admitt4d few women they'd go bi for. Makes me feel like it's far more complicated than "you're hardwired to like either like men or women" and it's something that's developed by a thousand little micro things while your identity is forming
>conversion therapy
I think conversion therapy shouldn't happen because it's cruel not because it's impossible. I also think that while a sexuality is formed subconciously it's probably pretty hard to brute force it.

>>38583093
I was molested by another boy when I was younger and I think that fucked up my whole sexual development. I think I was meant to be completely straight but that experience made me become bi because it happened at such a pivotal age for me.
I've never talked to any sort of mental health professional (or anyone else) about this but I probably should.

I'm bi and it was being made to give oral to a daycare center worker when I was 4
cis male btw
people who say everyone was born this way are being disingenuous imo
for some that's true but I believe personally it's a whole spectrum of things like being raised by almost all females/males

>>38589027
I'm sorry anon, same here. Did it give you absolutely insane anxiety and self esteem issues? I know it did with me.

>>38583093
i was just kinda like that i was an omega flamer stereotype pretty much the second i developed sentience, right down to wanting to play with dolls and the lisp

>>38583093
i was born that way. i didnt lose my virginity until i was like 20. i knew i was gay when puberty started. pretty normal childhood and friends.

>gay
I'm not gay
>born that way
do not know
>molested
Never even had an inappropriate moment with another kid
>porn
now this might be the real deal here. I remember when I was 15 I found a gay furry porn animation where this fox man was fucked by a tentacle and this was the first instance of me ever finding something that had a male form in a gay context hot. From then on I started watching gay porn alongside straight porn

>>38583093
Just born that way. I have memories of wrestling other guys when I was younger and getting aroused from it, but I was too young to realize that was same-sex attraction. Never paid women any attention, and I lied about having crushes on girls. Eventually realized I was gay at 13, and realized later that I'm bi but with a heavy preference for guys. Romantically, I'd be fine dating either gender, but I'm only sexually attracted to men

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picrel style men leave me absolutely no choice

>>38594356
>I remember when I was 15 I found a gay furry porn animation where this fox man was fucked by a tentacle
Yeah that's probably what did it.

>>38583093
i had an older brother and we used to pee together. he told me about how gay people have sex (with their butts) because apparently my mom told him.
i also think my mom made me not feel attracted to women because it felt like i was going to have a 100 responsibilities as the "man" of the relationship

>>38583093
dating women made me gay, straight women are too annoying to be around

>>38594604
>i also think my mom made me not feel attracted to women because it felt like i was going to have a 100 responsibilities as the "man" of the relationship
Oh yeah can this board talk about this more?
I'm bi and shut out any attraction I had to women for years because I didn't want to have to put up with all the nagging and responsibilities my dad had to do for my mom.
I feel like a good number of queer amabs see their parents relationship work like this and nope out of women permanently.
It may also explain the overlap of incel-ish tendencies and queerness that 4chan legbutts tend to have.

>>38594710
yes, my parents didnt set a good example of what marriage was, because they were miserable all the time and had me hen they were teenagers anyways.
they were given their home when they were 20 and 21. and it showed.
i didnt understand that normal families were usually a bit more nurturing and warm with their children until i was in entering teen years and go to ride my bike to other kids houses.
i thought all dads were mean, and i thought all moms were bitchy. but that turned out not to be the case, and some kids really do have "good" families.
and thats why they can naturally steamroll through life and turn out somewhat "normal"

>>38594710
>homosexuality in males is caused by a “dominant mother with a quiet, withdrawn, non expressive and/or hostile father, and an introverted, artistic, imaginative son."
from focus on the family
rlly makes u think

i was straight. had difficulty with women due to communication issues caused by autism. men, however, were always hitting on me so i just psyoped myself into being gay to make my life easier.

>>38594778
The irony about that is that I believe the Christian model for marriage tends to encourage stoic fathers and dominating mothers.
Christian culture (at least in the west) has always felt like a matriarchy wearing a patriarchal mask to me.

>>38594778
wow. that is literally me.
that is exactly how i grew up.

>>38594778
what if ur parents are divorced but this describes all 3 of u and ur a tranny also? was not being together what transd me and the other stuff all made me like men?

>>38594778
they have my fucking number
tho i wonder if my mom was overbearing BECAUSE i was gay and I refuse to just larp as straight to fit in

my best friends dad was actually very cool.
and am glad i got to see that some men can be very good fathers. he set a pretty high standard.
great guy.

also i had a supervisor when i was a teenager that was solid and even told me i was like a son to him.
he was kind of a party animal though and comedic and a veteran. healthy guy for a teenage boy to hang out with to get primed up for going into college era.

>>38594868
am in same situation. i have serious mommy and daddy issues. i yearn for both. its a trauma thing.
i try to stay away from daddys but am always open to a perfect daddy for me.
i always have "moms" in my life i dont mind doing things for them because they will do nice things for me also and give me positive feedback. and not negative/hostile or obliviousness.
it took my parents over 4+ years to figure out i was a tranny where everyone else that knew me picked up on it very fast without having to tell them.
i had to directly tell them. that is how little they give a fuck about me. everyone else was like "ehhh.. your changing?"

>>38594778
Kek I have this and threaten to kill my father at least once a week
t. Gayden

>>38594710
>I didn't want to have to put up with all the nagging and responsibilities my dad had to do for my mom.
>I feel like a good number of queer amabs see their parents relationship work like this and nope out of women permanently.
hey i wrote that reply and this is not how my parents work. my mom is the boss of the house. And ive never intentionally "noped" out of women, i have zero gripes towards women. This is just my theory on why im a weirdo. Belittling males around a male tends to affect them.

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i been 100% gay forever
never attracted to any girl or woman
even before porn i just jerked it to wrestlers on tv