A friend of mine recently came out as trans mtf but I don't see them passing ever. They are in their 30s also so not sure if HRT can do anything this late. Like I could see them sitting at that table in that one meme pic with all the speedrunning trannies that epically fail at passing. Anyone been in this situation have any advice? I fully support trannies that pass but I'm not sure what to think of trannies that do not pass, that is my stance. Does this make me a troll or a bad person? I don't know what to think. I feel like my friend is in for a world of pain or whatever people who don't pass well will have to go through.
>>38586778sounds awful, maybe just be neutral about it and slowly distance urself idk
>>38586778>30I've known trans people who transitioned at 30 and pass>le speedrunner pol memeYeah probably stay miles away from her, her life will be hard enough without weirdos like you aroundGenuinely strange thing to know or talk about
>>38586778She shouldn't have to orient her entire life around looking good for other people instead of doing what she wants
>>38586778just try to be humble with some grace and support them
>>38586778>fully support people that pass>not people who don'tThis is basically how the overwhelming majority of people work. It's a little shitty but not much to do about it. If your friend gets very genetically lucky, in anywhere from 7mo to a year or two, they could end up totally passing.
fuck her anal
>>38586815>I've known trans people who transitioned at 30 and passin real life?
>>38587031I’ve still never heard an argument that makes sense for how transitioning but not-passing would ever improve your life. You get 0 social benefits or treatments, you don’t see a girl when you look in the mirror, you see someone who can’t dress well and looks bad. In a vacuum absent of others gender doesn’t exist, you’re only the sum of your components. But when you can’t pass then you’re just in an eternal vacuum.
>>38587202u can be pretty and still not pass. i never understood yalls argument either so its ok lol
>>38587202You can not pass and still look decentNot all non passers are weird cringe hon. There are plenty of beautiful women who clearly used to be men. I think those are more based than pathetic reppers and likely feel less dysphoria than they would have otherwise.
>>38587202The "you can be pretty and not pass" angle is what people go for like the other anon said. There's almost always a way to improve your body enough to get social acceptance, especially when you put clear effort into your appearance. Effort is respected, as much as trans women get any respect.
>>38587316effort can't make a true neverpasser pass, only make them look like a hon. you have to be a luckshit to some extent to even be to able get to the point where you can put in effort without being seen as a joke at best and a hate crime statistic at worst
