>>38589478get a new face
>>38589478i'm sorry this made me laugh out loud. you look like the guy from Hatred
>>38589478time travel and transition at 9
surgery
>>38589478idk anon.we look kinda similar, i just don't think about "passing" anymoresee my explanation here >>>38589328
>>38589478Brows and bangs and get rid of the piercings for a start. You look like a metalhead, not a woman. You're also going to want to figure out mascara pretty quick, and you'll prolly want to invest in falsies. You need laser, I think you might have had some, but you need more, and I dare say you'll need electrolysis too (laser doesn't work on blonde or red hair). In terms of surgery there's good news and bad news. The good news is your browbone and hairline look fine, so you don't need any work there. The bad news is that gigantic fucking manchin is going to need the surgeon. You obviously haven't been on HRT for long, which means you're going to have to put up with it for the next two years, and it's going to start REALLY fucking bugging you, so you'll need to save for that. That plus philtrum/speculum reductions and some lip filler and you should be good to go. Maybe $20k US -ish. $2,000 a year in maintenance.
>>38589478bro, cheek fat grafts, slight chin work.you look super androgynous and if your voice was good id already see you as slightly below avg woman w out makeup.
>>38589478it’s over
>>38589583>bro>I'd see you as a womanNonny we don't do huggboxxing here. We do the truth when people ask. If you want people just to tell you you're beautiful go to reddit.
>>38589614ugly women exist, retard. acting like every women looks like an instagram model is retarded. i have like 4 ugly as fuck masculine faced women in my administration department at work.
>>38589684ugly women don't get called bro bro. You actually gendered her male and then said she passed. If you're gendering her male she doesn't pass. You huggboxxing isn't helping, because when she actually does pass she won't believe it. That's why we do the cold hard cruel truth here so when we actually do start passing as women we can know for sure by asking here and hearing the hons seethe. You are fucking that up. But if you're going to huggboxx, at least don't be retarded about it, BRO.
>>38589725nta but people who talk in dude/bro language say it to everyone regardless of gender.
>>38589583Bitch has a straight up man face>>38589684Ugly women exist but OP reads as a man and you're delusional or lying if you say you read anything different at a glance
>>38589730I never once heard a dudebro (and I was a dudebro) say "you look really hot bro" when talking to an attractive woman.
>>38589725no i didnt misgender her. i missed the letter w in brow you confrontational nigger.get a grip. ugly women exist and ugly women get misgendered or clocked often. look on reddit for seething cishons mad that proliferation of trannydom made them get mistaken for trannies when 10 years ago no one would have batted an eye.
>>38589478i can see now why hons dont post their faces
forget about this tranny stuff you belong in a garage band
>>38589743not in that way but i’ve heard them say it in the way the other anon said it
>>38589745Even accepting that excuse you're still bullshitting. OP looks like she's a member of a swedish heavy metal band. >>38589775Apparently other anon was actually saying "brow" so you're full of shit.
>>38589725>we actually do start passing as women we can know for sure by asking here and hearing the hons seethecan't really argue with that logic, although even if you do pass there are trolls that will say you don't just to dunk on trannies>>38589730dude maybe, but "bro" is clearly gendered like "man".>>38589743> dude is gender neutral> oh? how many dudes have you slept with?oops>>38589789anon you don't have to be mean like this
>>38589789>baseless insultsah emily of 4chan not wanting to admit he’s wrong lol
>>38589478unironically put on some weightand get ffs
>>38589758I don't post my face because Jews will spread it across the internet to inflame transphobia. It's actually improved to the point that I don't feel sick when I see it and I take regular pictures that are stored in an airgapped drive, but being a middle aged baby-trans has it's own challenges. The internet never sees my face. Not just here. Anywhere.
>>38589804>”bro” is clearly gendered like “man”maybe to u but not to most people especially people who use that language. r u a millennial or something? cuz being old would be the only reason u don’t get this
>>38589804>can't really argue with that logic, although even if you do pass there are trolls that will say you don't just to dunk on tranniesYep. And then when those trolls get flamed you know you're at least getting close. >anon you don't have to be mean like thisYeah we do. That's the point. We balance out the reddit and the support groups and the therapists and all of it. We are openly cruel so that when we seethe you know you've earned it. Welcome to 4chan, now fuck off.
>>38589478you. look. eerily familiar. what is the first letter of your birth name?
>>38589825it's not just because i'm older than you.i am not american, and i mostly only talk to white people here."bro"/"bruh" is like brown people ebonics here>>38589844>Welcome to 4chan, now fuck off.i've been here longer than you. you don't have to be insulting and mean.
>>38589478the AGP gazedoes your polycule know youre on 4chan?
>>38589889i’m also not american, but everything is kinda americanized cuz of the internet.
>>38589478do your eyebrows, get rid of the eyebrow piercings, get a hairstyle that isn't just "long" and stop smirking like thati agree with >>38589572, you look like a metalhead
>>38589478i took a similar photo (and compared pic rel) and i can literally fit my entire head inside yours and there would be plenty of room to bounce around, especially vertically. why are you transitioning? pleeese REP
>>38589889>i've been here longer than you. you don't have to be insulting and mean.lol. lmao even.
>>38590193there's something wrong with you if you think that justifies your behavior towards your own community
>>38589957And hollywood. The proliferation of the valley girl accent has been like studied by anthropologists so...
>>38589478why are you fucking smirking? there's nothing to smile about
>>38589478ffs by mardirossian firstthe effortmaxxing should follow after surgery
>>38589478prob won't be a 100% pass like stealth but red is hair to remove and green is hightlighter. just simple easy look you can do every day, your eyebrows will have to be pretty thin like pic to get rid of weight at the bottom so they don't go under your brow line, and then throw on some mascara, also make sure you're taking care of your hair and brushing it :) looks a little rough, then with cute fits and voice training you'll be really cute!
>>38590215This isn't the community sweetheart. This is where you come to bitch about the community because it's shitting you off. And it shits all of us off at one point or another. My name, my trip, that stands for compassionate honesty. If you come to me and ask me what's wrong with your face I will tell you what's wrong with your face so that when I tell you there's nothing wrong with your face you know there's nothing wrong with your face. When you tell people there's nothing wrong with their face they interpret that to mean there's something wrong with their face. Because that's how this stupid disease works. You're not being kind, you're being selfish.
>>38590224i do that accent when i speak english but idk i think it’s fine just something i picked up from youtubers
>>38590286I used it even as a man. As a woman it's so fluid and easy. And because of hollywood everyone understands it, where if I speak in colloquial australian no one except other aussies and a few brits understand it.
>>38590306>the gigahon doesn’t have a funny aussie accent:c
>>38590274also lip gloss would be a nice touch, just to give you natural look+
>>38590318It's kinda weird because I can put my bogan mancent back on and I actually shock people now even if I wasn't speaking fully femme at the time. That's just the degree to which I was compensating for my lack of authentic masculinity. I am the world's leading expert on pretending to be a man.
>>38590257waaaoowww
>>38590360have u ever posted voice here now i wonder what u sound like
>>38589478Euthanasia
>>38590380Hold please.
>>38589478You're gonna need a jaw/chin reduction, but on the bright side i think that's all that's absolutely necessary. If i cover up your lower third you kinda read as female
>>38590380https://voca.ro/19ijIj6YvmeO
>>38590419psyop
>>38590435What? How?Is it really bad?
>>38590419don’t really hear a diff do u follow any voice training lessons? atleast its not a trying to hard to make it high mickey mouse voice which i expected ig.
>>38590446Not at all. The only voice training I really do is singing in a higher pitch to harmonize with male singers. I should probably start voice training soon, but there are moments when my voice just softens and lightens on it's own and I really like when it does that. Also keep in mind that's just the shitty cheap webcam mic with not fiddling with levels or anything.
>>38590419holy fuck your voice is hot
>>38590474liarhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9UerbI5lHw
>>38589478your skin texture and wrinkle pattern is very male. get on a tretenoin prescription ASAP
>>38590257That straight up looks like one of those makeover movies from the 90s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkLH_5ErxqYI miss the 90s.
>>38590277sorry but telling people they "need" surgery is weird to me, it feels invasive.> When you tell people there's nothing wrong with their face they interpret that to mean there's something wrong with their face. Because that's how this stupid disease works. i see.
>>38590327>>38590274>>38589478bumping this so hopefully OP sees
>>38590419shit. i have multiple voices too anon and i can't tell if it's out of laziness or multiple personalities
Thanks, this social experiment is now complete.
Get SuperFFS
>>38589478a 12 bore would help contour it and bring out your feminine aspects
>>38589491MY PRONOUNS ARE NOT IMPORTANT
>>38591258How far through your transition are you? Because I just assume it's part of the process. I get more masculine when I'm threatened as a defense mechanism, but as I gain more confidence and get more sure of myself I do that less and less. >>38591329DO TELL!!!What was the experiment, what was the results?
>>38589478yikes. sorry anon.
>>38591329Cheers, brother.
>metalhead posts a smirking selfie>trannies try to chisel him into the perfect pichi pichi gyaruThis is the most autistic board on 4chan.
>>38595389winners
You look like a typical metal dude with long hair.
>>38589478ignore the brainwormed masses you could pass already with a proper voicejust learn to do makeup no need for power tools to the facelose the eyebrow piercings they don't flatter youpluck your eyebrowsdon't use lipstick, keep the attention on the top half of your faceif you must, shaving off a bit of jaw and chin bone could help you but ffs is extremely overrated on here, that alone will not make things better
>>38589478Here, anon. You dropped this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbswYDl9p8k
>>38589478Makeup upHair style Clothing that fits and looks properly Look up Vlad he dresses as a woman and people sexual harassment him
honzilla the destroyer
>>38589478i want to blow my load all over your face..
>>38589485>>38589491>>38589492>>38589502whenever I read any single comment going on the same negative filled of trash train I always wonder. do these people look at the women on their family, do these people go outside walk on the street and look at women faces? LOLnot all women are models, there are thousands and thousands of CIS-women around the world that "look manlier" than the tranners u throw bs at. I challenge you to go to your nearest shopping centre/supermarket and look at women facesnot even mentioning that mostgirls that "look pretty" use makeup trans or not trans. tranners dont even use makeup, or use makeup as good as most cisgirls. tranners dont know the hairstyle the look the best with. tranners dont do skin care. tranners havent gotten ffs, that they can eventually getsrsly, you just know people that type those things have severe brain damage and mental illnesses
>>38589478detransitioning :)
>>38598782generally woman who look so manly that they can physically compare to males who have literally went, often fully, through male puberty often have hormone problems that likely make them extreme outliers anyway. why would anyone even want to think about a question like this? trannys here dont want to outliermaxx, they want to pass as the average woman, possibly for their height. also those woman are probably clocked as trannys, too unless thats something ur into :)
>>38599133>I never interact with women in real lifethanks for telling on yourself hon
>>38599149i guess i should just quickly clarify this, but the fact that she has a more manly shaped face and that there could be hundreds of cis woman you'll see in daily life that have a similar "shaped" face does NOT mean that the OP can pass, too. the OP probably has a massive skull because of her male puberty and prenatal conditions. you are confusing shape with size and males do NOT have a tendency to have similar skull sizes to afabs, stop giving people like this hope.
>>38599149What the fuck is this retarded post nigga?
>>>38599260>1 woman in particular compared to 1 man in particular has this particular difference compared to the manwow anon, great response honestly, impressive argumentsure there are woman with extremely small skulls, and you can say women statisically tend to have smaller skulls, the same way they tend to have a lower height. that doesnt mean anything else is non-existent or abnormalpic rel. 4 times gold medal USA olympic swimmer that retards here would tell to kill herself if they saw her without makeup, messy hairy and a bit of hair asking to rate her lookswoman that has achieved more than you will ever get in your sad cancer lifethere is no point on reading this threads since it is all 99% of schizos saying mean things have scaped from the psychward
>>38599964anon, you aren't invalidating my argument by making literally the same argument as me. you cannot prove through a photo that men SURELY ON AVERAGE have similar shaped skulls to woman anymore than i can without anything to back it up. the difference here is that anthropological studies literally prove that men have a tendency to have significantly larger skulls than females do on average. my photo demonstrates that you CANNOT confuse shape with size, not that this represents males and females on average. most of the anons here are NOT going to magically fall into the average range in all areas, unless they are genetically very lucky or intersex. you cannot speak for the average amab here and you certainly cannot do so without evidence or through a single photo. but, you are in luck! because this has literally already been done thousands of times, mostly for plastic surgery related reasons on tens of THOUSANDS of different cis amabs and afabs. this isn't a mere fringe theory that has little evidence to back it up, it is literally the entire backbone of the plastic surgery industry.
>>38600218heres another photo on caucasians, whom are more sexually dimorphic.
>>38600241but anyway my friend, facial ratios or how long a third of the face is in comparison to the others is MEANINGLESS. a male with a huge skull can look feminine in a photo while the OP can look incredibly feminine if the SCALE of their skull is smaller or equal to a smaller skull sized afab, but you will NEVER pass if your skull exceeds these averages. you can definitely look feminine if your thirds are within the feminine range, but it is statistically improbable that most people here, unless they are youngshits or went through an unusually weak puberty, are going to fall into this range in terms of size. please do not confuse shape with size, the "shapes" you are seeing in the real world, regardless of how masculine they appear, are likely on cis woman who surely have much smaller skulls than the average amab.