Another teenage trans girl stabbed after post nut clarity. Killer claims panic defence. Knowing that he will get away with it if he claims she tricked him.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14289091/Transgender-girl-stabbed-nine-times-roller-skating-party-revenge-lying-gender-performing-sex-act-boy-court-hears.html
>>38590356Thankfully she's still alive but just shows Cis men aren't the play in 2025 they are evil and will kill you in a heartbeat
>>38590356>stabs a tranny for not disclosing>still calls her herSomething doesn't add up.
>>38590411how long until the #notallmen posters
>>38590411It's a brownoid thing not a man thing
>>38590411That's how it is for any woman, trans or not. And not only men, it's also butch sex-crazed lesbians with too much T in them.
>>38590447>>38590434aaaannndd there it is
>>38590447not even 10 minutes >>38590434
>>38590411>but just shows Cis men aren't the play in 2025 they are evil and will kill you in a heartbeat>>38590434>how long until the #notallmen posters>Didn't read past the headline
How is panic ever a defense for anything
>>38590356why are white girls stealthing on a brother??? why???? There's plenty that want a white tranny, just don't stealth!!!!!Also I thought this was a Vieo post until I opened thread.
>>38590356remember girls, always tell a man ur trans and don’t give him sex until ur in a serious relationship cuz they don’t deserve to get sex any earlier than that.
>>38590465>attacking someone in public>even recording it and posting it online??????????
>>38590411>>38590473>didn't read the articleTrannoid was stabbed by a cis woman.
>>38590356man i kinda wanna see what she looks like now
>>38590468>OP picrel>whiteHuh?
>>38590479Nearly everyone here is bashing men but READ the damn article.Tell me if anything jumps out about this violent man.
>>38590481it’s still a good idea if no women give men sex on the first few dates
>>38590497why did you reply to meI said nothing about men in my post
>>38590497The man was the one who caused this. Just because a woman stabbed her doesn't mean the man didn't make it happen
>>38590489thats a white girl anon, she is the one who did the stabbing. The brother just arranged for her to stab after he got blowed by a stealther. Does it make sense now dear child?
>>38590539I don't know what you're talking about but the girl in the OP pic is not white lol
nigger kills tranny, world rejoices
>Trapping niggersThis was a suicide attempt, as deliberate and sad as pointing an unloaded gun at a cop. Lucky to have lived
>>38590447god i love reading what white schizos write
>>38590356not his fault he didnt sign up for having sex with a man he was defending his root chakra
>>38590535Let's look at the original misleading post that OP copied and pasted off of their retarded Activism For Dummies cheatsheet...>>38590356>Another teenage trans girl stabbed after post nut clarity.Partly true. But given the attack in question wasn't immediately after the act, it wasn't self defence and all that.>Killer False. Nobody is dead.>claims panic defence.There was no killer, but, presuming they mean the stabber, that was a female.>Knowing that he will get away with it if he claims she tricked him.Again, she, if it is referring to the stabber.Also, it is a lie because nobody got away with anything.Even the ones doing "lesser roles"
>>38590815The cis woman that stabber her will definitely get away with it, the UK treats afabs like children
>>38590836Nah.Not after this:>Afterwards Betts-Ramsey, now 20, boasted about the stabbing, posting a story on Snapchat with footage from the attack and laughing emojis, telling friends: 'I'm going jail… bro I stabbed her 12 times.'Judges are cucks, but when you openly challenge them, they have to jail you to protect their image
>>38590864wait so she stabbed her but still respects her pronouns?
>>38590465>harrowOH SHIT harrow sucks
>>38590900Apparently so....Women...>>38591157Ain't that the truth.Right up there with Tower Hamlets
>>38590356I'm pretty sure there's no trans panic defense in the UK, that's just some states in the US. And if he's admitted to "revenge" then that's premeditated attempted murder. Given that he's a minor he'll probably bargain that down to aggravated assault for three years.
>>38591257Only one is a minor
>>38590356Wish the stabber would end up with a bullet in her head, but it’s never going to happen.
>>38590447it was a white guy
>>38591257The one that did it is a woman though, I don't know how the UK handles asking someone to murder someone, and the woman will certainly not get any consequences herself because she's a woman
>>38591310His sister is black so he's probably black too
>>38591319bold of you to assume they have the same father but okay ig idk anyways
>>38591311Fucking retards in uk will probably give her a slap on the wrist and a bunch of tv interviews
+1 point to continue repping
>>38591304That's the penalty for misgendering, not attempted murder.The girl called the trans woman "her" so she will just get a stern talking to and then BLM will riot because she got in trouble with the police.
lol youngshits deserve some pain every once in a while. getting stabbed doesnt even compare to the perpetual horror of being a lateshit hon.
>>38591352Just rope you sad cunt
>>38591338It's not just an UK thing, women have always been treated as semi-children worldwide by both misogynists and so called feminists, receiving less consequences when they do evil just like children
>>38590465remember trannies this is what happens when you try to befriend cis women
yeah those are totally white names.....
>>38590411>>38590434it was actually a woman, what now?
>>38590356>/pol/ on the lgbt community:"We need to protect these vulnerable and impressionable children from being groomed by disgusting homosexuals.">Also /pol/ everytime an lgbt child gets killed:"KEK another tranny fagot got killed. FUCK DEM KIDS. 41%."
>>38591582Yeah it’s fucking obvious cis women fucking hate us I don’t know why everyone bothers to defend them
>>38591374>receiving less consequences when they do evil just like childrenMaybe in Europe but in the U.S they are extremely hard on children. If a child commits a violent crime they can easily get charged as an adult and thrown into adult prison. It's not rare.>>38591582You clrealy forgot what board you're on.
>>38591311It's called conspiracy to commit [offense]. It covers contract kills etc. If she's a minor then she'll be put on a bond, but that's actually a good thing because it won't be sealed, meaning the record doesn't go away when she's 18. If she asked an adult to do it for her and the adult did, then that guy is fully 100% responsible. As the adult in the room he should have told her no and counseled her through her feelings or directed her to someone who could. "I killed a tranny because that hot piece of jailbait told me to" is not a defense even the most incompetent criminal defender would go with.
>>38590356Why is the attacker in the picture? She’s really hot though. But what’s the story? Why did a girl stab the tranny for doing sex stuff with her bf?
>>38591511>childNot a child But I’m not seeing the contradiction though. To play devil’s advocate. If you’re interested in preventing an infection…
>>38591644>implying 18 isnt a kidok so we have to protect the vulnerable and impressionable children from the evil lgbt community but as soon as they pass that razor thin 17 to 18 mark and are still gay, it becomes funny when they get murdered. (bonus points for dating non-whites)Ok so how is this a counterargument to my post? Also are we going to pretend that the whole Brianna Ghey incident ever happened?
>>38591708see >>38591717your not fooling anyone
>>38591717That’s how it works with aoc laws too lol. But if the kid is trooning out it’s probably too late for them according to honscientists, so there’s no logical inconsistency there either
>>38591741>no argumentWhy even post?
>>38591747>there’s no logical inconsistencyThe fact the human brains is not done developing by 18 implies otherwise. Also the fact you never addressed the Brianna Ghey murder implies you thought it was funny.
>>38591747>>38591757>>38591767tell the discord group i said hi
>>385917171. i don't think it's funny2. she didn't dieand 3. she could have easily avoided this by being honest
>>38591846She did die but ok. So your argument is the young, vulnerable and impressionable child with a brain that's not fully developed should have known better to not get stabbed to death. In other words, fuck dem kids?
>>38590356Why is the word 'attacker' written on her picture? or is that what the attacker looks like?
>>38591878>is that what the attacker looks like?yes
>>38591776What are you talking about? How is there any logical inconsistency? If you believe the detransition rate is as low as people would like to believe, and believe children shouldn’t be trans, then once they’ve transitioned it’s too late. Therefore you can want to protect kids and also celebrate the deaths of trans kids without having any ideological inconsistencies. >>38591788Cringe. What’s the point of not even engaging in a thought experiment and being paranoid like this? again, why even post? just try one of those chatgpt bot sites and pick one that’s a little mean but stupid. You’ll get the same dopamine outcomes as owning the maga /pol/ discord larpercore boogeyman in your delusions
>>38590356Just fucking say it beforehand. If you're good looking most people won't give a shit these days and you save yourself a lot of trouble later.
>>38591582>>38591607it's transbian pickmes thinking lesbians will like them if they're misandrist enough
>>38591932they literally claim trans panic every single timethere's no evidence he didn't know
>>38591902Anon, you're moving the goal post so far you're no longer in the staduim. I can taste your salt from here.A childs brain is not done developing at 18 lol you think its funny when kids get killed confirmed. we're done here.
>>38591877OP's tranny victim did survive, i'm not talking about gheyand yes i expect from a young vulnerable and impressionable child not to lie about their gender when she's planning to carry out sex act's with other peoplei also expect from the same children to not touch a hot stove, would you ?
>>38591959i expect children to make mistakes and i expect you to be sympathetic to children. its too bad you think its funny when children get stabbed.
>>38590433He probably loved suckin GOCK but hated dealing with her BPDemon shit because she was gonna spill the beans that he's a bisexual trannyfucker (see: death sentence for men to admit)
>>38591960Why do you think they transitioned?to be catty to the losing team and pretend like they're not homos
>>38592001>i expect children to make mistakeswould you say that the group of kids who did this made a mistake ?
>>38590411Yes, when you commit sexual assault people will try to kill you. Does trans rights just mean rapists' rights?
>>38590411nice try pooner
>>38590747>stealing>knifesYes black men suck i know
This thread is really good OP.thanks for confirming that almost nobody reads the fucking articles posted on these threads.
>>38592272comparing the act having sex with the wrong person to the act of stabbing someone 9 times is an act of comparing apples to oranges. how did you achieve this level of mental gymnastics? something... something is wrong with your brain.
>>38590356>read article>"f-ing tranny"why is fuck censored but tranny isn't
>>38591878Yeah the attacker is that nigger
>>38592434Big shocker
>>38592347One is rape, the other one attempted murderWhy shouldn't i compare that ?
>>38592355We can all say tranny now
>>38592443>One is rape
>>38590356>trusting a moid
>>38590356>jury rejected attempted murder charges>defendant's lawyers asked for grievous body harm charges instead, saying they wanted 'revenge' but didnt want to kill>was jumped and stabbed by a planned groupwhat the actual fuck? literally why does the system straight up hate trannies. what the actual fuck. revenge barely holds up as justification for a real crime let alone fucking murder. god what the actual fuck genuinely like how HOW is that not planned attempted murder you dont fucking get a gang of aspiring shankers when you want revenge for getting a street blowjob and not knowing everything (gee who coulda thunk) you do that when youre a fucking mafia boss
>>38592465He didn't give consent to have his cock sucked by a tranny, ergo rape
>>38592497>He didn't give consentnigga you stupid
>>38592449i have never seen a cis person use "tranny" in a non-slur way outside of places like this
>>38592497he LITERALLY did give consent
>>38592538He didn't know she was trans !!
>>38592494Its objectively first degree murder, it was planned out openly online. If that isn't attempted murder i don't know what is, they went out of their way to order knives (in the UK you need ID to get that stuff and its overall sketchy) and boasted about it afterward too, suits are lizardppl
>>38592563he literally saw a tranny, consented to a blowjob, and got a blowjob
>>38592563nowhere in the world is that considered rapealso i dont believe him when he says he didnt know
>>38592611>>38592619The very first sentence of OP's linked article states that she lied about her gender before performing oral
>>38592707the article actually says that the stabber said that the boy said that the victim lied about her genderthere is no actual evidence that the victim was asked if she was trans and claimed not to be
>>38592727>lied about her gender>is a girl>said she's a girlI really hope we reject this framing
>>38592707>tfw you lied about being a natural blue eyed blonde and you get charged with rape
>>38592733Cissoids going mask off
>>38592746Ok let's try it this wayYou meet a really cute, interesting person at a bar.You start datingYou have sexSome time after that you find out he's a racist naziHe even voted for trump !!!!!!Would you still have fucked that person if you knew that before ?
>>38592871no but nobody in their right mind thinks it's rape
>>38592871retroactive rape is not a thing
>>38590356>>38590465this is why i just don't go outside
>>38592871>tfw you lied about being a virgin and you get charged with rape when your ex-incel bf finds out
>>38592880I remember a case in the uk where a transman went to jail because the woman he was in a reationship with didn't know he was trans
>>38592916it wasn't a trans man it was just a woman and it's the source of all of this UK trans panic and it didn't even involve a transgender person
>>38592916>tfw you lied to your liberal gf about voting for kamala and you go to prison for rape
>>38592746>>38592889fun fact: a guy lying about his wealth to attract a woman used to actually be illegal
>>38592932It was a transman without top-,or bottom-surgery
>>38592962I mean one can never know what was in her mind but there was no indication that she was trans and she did it for a completely different meaning
>>38592960>tfw you lied about having a fat cock and you go to prison for rape
>>38592962>>38592977>tfw you accidently nutted inside your girl when she told you not to and you go to prison for rape
>>38593051>tfw you lied about nailing stacy to your boys and everyone files rape charges
>>38593083>tfw you lied about cheating on your gf and she files rape charges and you go to prison and you get raped
>>38592977I was trying to find it maybe it was just a woman pretending to be a man and i remembered it wrong, also there are multiple cases which is mind bogglingBut the point stands that those women were charged and convicted of sexual assault because they lied about their gender so the "consent" happened under false pretence
>>38593140>tfw your girl lied about wearing a wig and it falls off during sex and you file rape charges
>>38593140well yeah but a woman pretending to be a man is a very different thing from a legitimate trans man. While the UK is in fact fucked I am not aware of a case brought let alone won against a legitimate trans person at this point
>>38593155Little troon you need your meds
>>38593160>tfw you couldnt get it up in the bedroom and she files rape charges and you go to prison
>>38593166>tfw you lied about being a trans girl and he files rape charges because your just a bitch with a rubber dick
>>38590356She's a great tits and dindu nuffin, FREE TITS RAMSEY>>38592619>nowhere in the world is that considered rapeOnly technically correct, it is actually considered sexual assault in the UK, by lawAnd it only isn't rape because UK law defines rape as something you do with a penisBut people absolutely unironically can go and have gone to prison for lying about their trans status/bio sex>>38593051You joke but this is literally why Assange was charged with rape in Sweden
>>38592563If you can always tell, he knew he got sucked off by tranny
Is really nobody going to comment on the tranny being an 'aspiring model'
>>38590356I am fond of trannies and trans women are women. I won't defend his beaviour but at the same time it is hard to criticize trans panic defense when the entire thread is filled with people justifying non-disclosure. They need to criminalize non-disclosure full stop. It is the only solution. This frontier justice approach of "just stab a tranny because you're mad" is obviously ridiculous, but it is also ridiculous that trannies WILL NOT do the right thing. The only solution is to make it criminal. >>38590411This is a disgusting attitude to have. Literal subhuman thinking. The same level of thinking that tourist chuds practice.
>>38590434>>38590453Screencapping this for later on when I need the perfect case for why misandry is absolutely fucking retarded.
wild how some people here argue its in any way funny or right or excused or understandable for teenagers to kill each other
>>38594643tranny rapes person - person avenges themselves. its not right or legal but it certainly is a heavily mitigating factor. don't rape people
>evil and will kill you in a heartbeatWhy normies like that?
just saw this on the the front page of 4chan i would never open this board but wanted to pop in and say you deserve it if you do this
>>38594651>rapeget real, retardalso as shown in the screenshot from >>38590465, she was jumped by five people, hardly anything defensible about that.
>>38594708Same reason trannies try to stealth sexual partners. Most people are hollow. They don't just have an apathy to people who's beliefs do not line up with their's and inconvenience them, but a straight up malice.
Poor kid got tricked by the tranny hopefully, he gets off the hook
Looks like Woahvicky
>>38594814go to bed
>>38595255
>>38595263
>>38595272
>>38595263>>38595272>>38595277>>38595255Just find a brutha thats willing.DONT ever stealth.If the brutha had slapped her straight he realised she was a boy, no trial, no prison.
>>38592871>tfw you forget to tell someone you hook up with that you're jewish and get charged with rape because he's a nazi
>>38594289hey anon what if you get head from a cis girl and you're really into it and she pulls down her pants after and has a DISGUSTING STINKY DEFORMED PUSSY which was a birth defect it's just absolutely vile and you don't want to have sex with her anymore and wouldn't have let her give you head if you knew about it. should she be charged with rape?
>>38590356This kind of thing has always happened and probably always will (awful!) but what is especially concerning is that there are a lot of people in the comments of this article who are blaming the girl / calling the boy a victim. If you read the comments almost nobody is actually respecting the gender of the girl- I don't think that's something you would have seen a few years ago. There are even people insinuating it should have been legal to stab her- the fact they feel able to comment this in public is probably part of the fascist-esque shift everyone keeps talking about
>>38595255>>38595277It bothers me that people use the moral high ground to persecute others. Like you're right, the tranny did the wrong thing, they don't deserve to be stabbed and it doesn't justify the absolutely psychotic actions of other's. It's not grounds to justify transphobia.It's weird that there are just a sea of adults out there who believe two wrongs make a right.>>38595391Any time a tranny is confronted with this they immediately try to compare it to other things. But it isn't an other thing. No amount of false equivalence will make you right. A trans woman is not a cis woman, regardless of genitals. In a problem that is entirely driven by cultural context you can't compare it to something else. You wouldn't like it if I said "what about someone with HIV".
>>38595394the tranny objectively did rape the boy
>>38595394Okay but maybe you should learn from it and trannies should change their ways instead of doubling down. This literally couldn't be happening if trannies would just disclose.
>>38595410It's just as much 'rape' as him recording her without her knowing
>>38595422Scare quotes around rape is such a great look, sister.
>>38595409>You wouldn't like it if I said "what about someone with HIV".yeah I would, this one has potential to cause actual physical harm to a person the trans thing doesn't. I don't care if you believe trannies are women or not, fact is it's not rape and there's no way to actually justify it as such. using your own AIDS example, the way for it to classify as rape REQUIRES the person with HIV to know they have HIV and be INTENTIONALLY DECEPTIVE ABOUT IT. if the tranny thinks of themselves as a woman, this is not them intentionally deceiving someone. it also again doesn't have a risk of physical harm. >>38595391>>38595379>>38592889give me on actual reason it's not comparable to any of these other than "b-b-but trannies aren't women" because mens rea is an important part of legal action so even if you believe that, trannies don't have the mental faculties for believing that concept and therefore it cannot be rape
>>38590356Another day, another tranny scandal
>>38595454trans women are men pretending to be women
>>38595463it's cool bro just turn off the pattern recognition part of your brain
>>38595468doesn't matter, if they don't believe that it can't be intentional deception.
>>38595473>low IQ ape can't understand what propaganda is and why the media focuses on these topics more please post your cranial measurements because i just know that vault is tiny
>>38595410I don't think anyone who isn't homophobic sees it as rape. Nobody would care if the person who blew you is a male or a female if they don't hate gay people and think men who would allow themselves to let another man pleasure them sexually are disgusting and wrong.
>>38595475You can't possibly really believe this. That makes no logical sense.
>>38595454That is some insane cope.It's not any of those things because it literally isn't, by definition. You can't compare the context of a trans woman to the context of a cis woman. That is inherently clear because we are discussing it.I never said it was rape. I said that it needs to be legislated against because trannies will not do the right thing. To be honest this entire posts stinks of the exact predatory thinking that bothers me so much. You're using the same kinds of justifications that the people are who say that tranny stabber was justified. The most shocking thing is that trannies can only thrive under politeness and the understand that you don't need to agree with someone to go out of your way to protect their feelings. You can understand why it can be harmful to a trans woman to be misgendered, to have to use the men's bathroom, but you somehow can't understand why it can be harmful for someone who strongly doesn't want to have sex with a trans person. If you want people to go out of their way to accomodate trannies you can't just refuse to go out of your way for them.Or rather you can and this is what it gets you, things are worse than ever.
>>38590447it was a white woman
>>38595480sex through coercion via lies is rape no matter if its bill cosby or some tranny
>>38595480>Nobody would care if the person who blew you is a male or a female if they don't hate gay peopleHaving a sexual preference is homophobic?Merely being heterosexual and not wanting to have sex with transgender people is homophobic now?
>>38595493realistically, the reason people care is they view it as a dishonest way to entice straight people into gay sex
>>38595479The highest office in the land in the US openly celebrates the Trans Day of Visibility, and there are plenty of high-profile trans people in the government. If that doesn't amount to at lest a little bit of propaganda as well, then I guess we must be speaking different languages.
>>38595486>>38595483neither of you understand the law and it shows. I went to school to be a forensic investigator so I had to take years of law courses. your personal feelings on trannies is irrelevant, no mental aspect of a crime, no crime.I'm not even a tranny but this is just embarrassing for you
>>38595509What the fuck ever, anon. Have fun.
>>38595505if you can't see the difference between these 2 things and why a constant hate campaign would be more effective you're even more retarded. still waiting for those measurements, ape.
>>38595503no its wrong to trick anyone into sex no matter the gender or sexuality how is that so hard to understand
>>38590447this
>>38595522people would not care if it were someone seen as female tricking someone male into sexthey only care because of the taboo on gay sex
>>38595509That's not how the law works so your schooling was wasted.If you make it illegal for a tranny not disclose, and a tranny knowingly doesn't disclose, that is a crime.
Stop raping boys
>>38595526>people would not care if it were someone seen as female tricking someone male into sexYeah, I would?
>>38595493>liesno knowledge of dishonesty, no lies. See accidentally giving partner AIDS vs intentionally doing it. tranny thinks they're a woman there's no reason this would be a lie unless they explicitly say they're not a tranny
>>38595535>no knowledge of dishonesty, no lies.go fuck yourself
You can discuss whether it was wrong for her to lie about her gender until the cows come home. The real question is who gives a shit about that when she got jumped by 5 people. He only found out that she was trans because he held a knife to her lol
>>38595535>unless they explicitly say they're not a trannyshe did read the article lolhttps://en.wikipedia org/wiki/Rape_by_deception
>>38595527yeah but the point is it would go against all legal precedence with other similar crimes and cannot be rape by deception. the idea on whether it's moral or not is completely personal and I could make the same argument for a jewish woman having to disclose it which is why this is absurd.
>>38595542I wish more trans people got jumped with people with knives. If that happened more regularly you would be a lot less cocky.
>>38595543from word of the attacker after the fact she told them she's not trans when she had a knife to her because she was fearful for her life. we don't even have any evidence of that happening at all prior or that the tranny didn't disclose
>>38595548I think people with some black ancestry should be forced to disclose it, since they have high rates of HIV and are violent by nature
>>38595548You can't because Jewish women are not trans women
>>38595558if we legislate something like that and also against jewish women and any group where it may not be fully visible to the other party then I think this would be actually legally sound and I would not be able to argue against it
>>38590356finally we get a troon George Floyd. The Nex Benedict momentum went nowhere, hopefully this too won't be a bust
>>38595553you clearly cant read>asks if shes trans before head> she lies>hes told later by third party she is trans>he confronts her with a knife for the truthshe fucking lied you retard and lying to get sex is rape by deception, the tragedy of this whole thing is it was completely avoidable, she didnt have to lie or have sex with him
>>38595565I think we should make this a bill just to make normies show their hipocrisy by getting mad about it while thinking trannies should be executed if a man flirts with them
>>38595576Yeah dog I love being oppressed. Oppress me more. That's what this shit is all about, right?
>>38595566he lived in the end, just stabbed up. Means a non-story
>>38595564doesn't matter, existing in a way you are is not an inherently deceptive act, dressing wealthy without being wealthy to is not a legally deceptive act, getting surgery to remove facial abnormalities is not a legally deceptive act. Going off the idea trannies are men, this is still impossible to prove as a legally deceptive act even if they had the mental aspect of knowing they're a man without them fully saying they're a cisgender woman. if the fact we go off of is he is attracted to the tranny, the tranny doesn't push back, this is not something which has any precedence to fall under deception
>>38595579nta but u not a normie if u post on 4chan
>>38590356rape by deception reaps vigilante consequences, shocker
>>38595582You keep bringing up deception but I never mentioned rape by deption
>>38595572that's not even what the article says and again coming from someone being charged with a more heinous crime in any other instance this would be completely thrown out because they're an untrustworthy source
>>38595589>can't understand wordsanon all you've said is trannies are men and i'm saying even if we go with that there is no legal precedence for legislating against that in any way and the only way to justly do that would be to criminalize A LOT of things which very much should not be criminalized. If you, off appearance, decide this is someone you want to have sex with, there is no legal precedence for making them disclose anything not directly harmful to you physically.
>>38595606I literally said trans women were women in my first post so very ironic.
>>38595606it apparently causes enough mental distress to cause a fucker to kill lol seems pretty harmfull for both parties if you ask me
>>38595617then I'm steel manning your argument and going off a stronger point, who cares?
>>38595572Yeah she's stupid enough. Beautiful and dumb. But if her beauty don't count and this story it's another one + point to continue to repress for me. I don't want to be stabbed.
>>38595621and so could a nazi having sex with a jew by accident, we still haven't made this a crime or something you have to disclose.
>>38590411Too bad trannies will always be dependent on (specifically straight) men's attraction to feel validated as a woman. You either rot away alone as a tranny freak incel with mutilated genitalia or you go out into the world trying to quench your mental illness by getting straight cis guy cock and risk getting curb stomped into being paralyzed for life when you roll the dice and get unlucky.
>>38595625No you're missing my point because you're a midwit
>>38595587I'm not sure I understand what that has to do with what I posted.
>>38595480>why isn't everyone just queer, then everyone could fuck anyone and cases like this would never happenAmazing take
>>38595634unless I'm replying to the wrong anonyour point so far has been we should legislate so trannies have to disclose, I went with even if they are men this would be legally retarded and is very clearly discriminatory, sorry I didn't use the exact wording of "not cis women"
>>38591423>who cannot be namedDefinitely the most common Middle-Eastern name in England.
>>38595630are you trying to invalidate trans folk by comparing them to an ideology/religeon lol this sounds very pro transracialism lol tran people arent any of those things, if anything theyre a third gender and should be honest about that with anyone they wanna fuck lol
>>38595645The law exists to stop undesirable actions, we make people wear bike helmets for their own safety because otherwise people will not wear them. We should make trannies disclose.
>>38590356So they'll be in prison for life, right? RIGHT?
>>38595659you're approaching this as a moral argument I'm arguing a legal issue. Although I do find it morally neutral moral arguments are pointless and completely based on each person's own perspective and usually go nowhere so I wouldn't approach one of those
>>38595663you have a very juvenile understanding of the law. laws set precedents and require precedents to create new ones. This tranny law not only has no prior backing but would be at best legally risky for what else could be made to require disclosure
>>38595675>moral arguments are pointless and completely based on each person's own perspective/lgbt/, everyone
>>38595675the law is based on the morality of the situation its morally wrong to do this, no matter the gender or sexuality
>>38595689your understanding of the law is even worse than this one wow >>38595663
>>38595675Moral relativism disproves itself.
>>38595685>you can't just like make le law Actually yes we can and should
>>38595704Um, no? Pick up that can, citizen.
>>38595702i honestly dont feel the need to humor relativists
>>38595704you're all really bad at this
>>38595711That's descrimination
>>38595702I don't care about if you think there's an objective morality, it's just not something you can argue logically and effectively like the law
>>38595713They're amazingly stupid people.
>>38595725>it's just not something you can argue logicallyWhy?
>>38595728enjoy this dapper tapir instead
>>38595728the easiest way to prove the futility of moral arguments is with vegans, it objectively causes harm to eat animal products, but people disagree on whether animal life and suffering is important enough in the way human life is and neither will concede their point.
>>38595740Are animals not harmed in the making of vegan products?
>>38595740trannies are animals and their suffering is less important
>>38595735most people have inconsistent morals and even when pointed out do not budge on it.
>>38595746That is a non-sequitir.Is raping and murdering humans ever acceptable?
>>38595743well no, that's kind of the point, but I'm not arguing this, I eat meat and haven't done any research into this, even if you pull up some source of some vegan practice that does harm animals it's obvious the suffering is greatly reduced. The only reason I brought this up was to show how dumb moral arguments are it doesn't matter which side is right in your view.
>>38595760>>38595748
>>38595760How do you grow produce without destroying habitats and killing animals at a commercial level?Maybe you should get your head out of your ass and stop talking about shit you know nothing about.
>>38595748least obvious bait question. the entire point of this is that moral arguments fall flat and are impossible to reach a conclusion which is true. Law is easy to argue if you understand it.
>>38595771are you so brain dead you can't understand I wasn't arguing for veganism? it was to show an issue with more arguments simply and example and you're not trapping me in some retard loop of arguments on something which fundamentally comes down to people having 2 different sets of morals
>>38595746For example, some people think people should go out of their way to gender them how they like but don't think they should go out of their way to avoid having sex with people who don't want to have sex with them.
morality is not a philosophical topic to argue it is an objective, evolutionary mechanism, that exists in us on a biological level, we developed it over millions of years of evolution no different then fear or the feeling of pain you feel when you touch the stove top
>>38595783fuck I need to sleep>it was to show an issue with more arguments simply and exampleit was to show an issue with moral arguments, simply an example,
>>38595783You were just showing you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>38595788that makes moral arguments even more pointless. people are genetically set in their beliefs so how could you argue with them?>>38595785you're arguing with a person who does not exist.
>>38595807Literally every tranny that thinks non-disclosure is fine
>>38595776How is that bait? Condemning rape and murder against our fellow humans is an example of an objective moral standard. We can all agree that rape and murder are objectively bad things.>the entire point of this is that moral arguments fall flat and are impossible to reach a conclusion which is true.This is a non-sequitir. It does nothing to support your argument that objective morals do not exist.This is like saying that if one person insists that an apple is red and another argues that it's green, and neither of them are willing to concede in anyway, that must mean that it's colorless.
>>38595807we dont kill (unless youre broken) bc thats bad for the group and its survival, the law is based on the biological fact (and many other thing, and is by no means perfect)
>>38595542>The real question is who gives a shit about that when she got jumped by 5 people.Me, you shouldn't have to threaten a guy with a knife to get him to disclose and he deserved to get jumped due to his lies. The fact that it's wrong for him to lie about his gender is the core of this case.
>>38595794I know the way in which the law functions which is why I argued on that. I used an argument which is an example of why I do not engage in moral arguments. I could not care less about your take on the topic which was 100% formed to justify your own pre-set beliefs on the matter.
>>38595821we have 8 billion peoplewe could kill half of them and be finethere's only so much room and water and nobody wants to live on top of a landfill
>>38595825You don't engage in moral arguments because you don't know what you're talking about?
>>38595829Lawyers are never beating the allegations.
>>38595827and yet we dont and most people know thats wrong to their core bc they are biologically normal humans lol
>>38595819>It does nothing to support your argument that objective morals do not exist.I never argued that. I was just explaining morals vary and I will not argue them. I don't care if you think it's objective or not.>We can all agree that rape and murder are objectively bad things.people rape and murder all the time and we have an entire wing of the government to kill people over resources. Do I think it's bad? yes. >>38595821military does, rape is good for propagating the species but that's super bad, male dominated polygamy is the best for other species of apes and likely our own but that's bad and illegal in most places. law is based on social contexts and the precedents we have set, not some objective morality
i hate this timeline
>people actually engaged with the "muh law makes a disclosure law impossible" trollUnbelieable, and actually very retardedIt's obvious bait using a simple formula of denial of the obvious to rile people up and gain (you)sNondisclosure is filthy and should be illegal or knifed, simpyl as
>>38595835literally the entire military
>>38595860>I never argued that.Yes, you did.>I don't care about if you think there's an objective morality, it's just not something you can argue logically and effectively like the lawIt is, in fact, something that you can prove exists with logic.
>>38595864sorry you low IQ apes can't understand how laws work
>>38595860the core of that precedents and and social context is our biology, you are completely programed and compelled by it and no choice you make is ever free, of that or anything else lol our morality is objective bc its biological and drives all our choices lol
I don't know what laws there are
>>38595878>>38595675read retard. I never gave any take on morality just said people's morals are inconsistent and based on their own views which is true. some things are objectively bad! that doesn't mean you can appeal to morality and change views in an argument. I think marrying children is objectively bad! there's still people who disagree with that.
>>38595885news to me that every single city in the world is filled with people who are biologically different but similar enough to have the same morals in these cities to pass new laws at that level
>>38595897>read retard.I'm reading one right now.>I never gave any take on morality just said people's morals are inconsistent and based on their own views which is true.You managed to contradict yourself inside a single sentence.
>>38595916you're not understanding anything I've said so here's a better explainationobjectively it's true each person varies in morals even your argument for something being objectively moral has to concede that peoples morals are different, even if there is objective morality which I did not argue against, then the objective morals are not consistent with people's moral values which makes the argument impossible to have. you cannot possibly argue that everyone has the exact same morals which makes arguing them stupid.
>>38591369i hope you get stabbed too
>>38595939>even if there is objective morality which I did not argue against,Yes, you did.>>38595725>I don't care about if you think there's an objective morality, it's just not something you can argue logically and effectively like the law>then the objective morals are not consistent with people's moral values which makes the argument impossible to have.This, again, is a non-sequitur.>you cannot possibly argue that everyone has the exact same morals which makes arguing them stupid.Everyone knows murder and rape is wrong. Some people do it anyways because they are immoral. Wow, what an easy argument.
>>38595964>This, again, is a non-sequitur.I don't think you know what this means, I have been consistent from the start with this exact point>Yes, you did point out one place I made any argument on this, from the start I have said people's morals are inconsistent which is objectively true.>Everyone knows murder and rape is wrong. this just is not true, again the military is a literal killing machine.>Some people do it anyways because they are immoral. Wow, what an easy argument.so their morals are inconsistent with the presupposed objective morality? like I've been saying? in this instance morally to them their own goals take precedence over the objective morality, this is a difference in morals as theirs are self serving.
>>38590356Oh, guys, imagine that a girl with a prosthetic leg sucked a guy's dick and then got killed because he didn't want to have sex with disabled people or something you knos preferences or if she was intersex.this shit is straight up transphobia and homophobia, because having sex with men is bad. No, you idiot, if you like a person, it's not rape. Sex with trans people doesn't cause harm and you liked it so fuck off.I think intersex and trans people should wear some kind of sign that you know to signal to others that sex with them is gay. Yeah, you're so fucking right.
>>38595495is sex with intersex people gay or straight?
>>38596001>point out one place I made any argument on this,I already pointed to the same post twice.>this just is not true, again the military is a literal killing machine.They are an example of people who know what is wrong but behave immorally anyways.You're really fucking stupid, anon. Cya l8r.
>>38596018>I already pointed to the same post twice.that post does not say what you think it does>They are an example of people who know what is wrong but behave immorally anyways.yeah I'm sure everyone contributing to the military thinks it's wrong and does it anywayalso RETARD deciding your values take precedence over the objective morality would be your own PERSONAL moral decision. I don't think you understand what this word means
it was a girl who was obviously seething this tranny sucked the dick of a boy she liked so she organised and did this attackCisisters... not like this..m
>>38596034the tranny was a model btw
>trannies so obsessed with rape they'd rather be murdered than have consensual sex with loving husbands Grim
>>38596002You're next in line to get stabbed hopefully (in Minecraft)
>>38596054>(in Minecraft)>haha I said in the game after saying something vaguely violent guys arent I so silly and funny, my favourite twitch streamer taught me this epic meme!
>>38596029You're so stupid omfg. So anyone who had plastic surgeries or any surgeries like life saving one or whatever and didn't disclose that about them now is a rapist? And intersex women are rapists now, right? Youngshits are literally intersex they don't have anything male, they have just wrong genitals like many others intersex people. But whatever yeah you just hate intersex women and cis women and everybody else.
>>38596058>Youngshits are literally intersex they don't have anything male, they have just wrong genitals like many others intersex people.Hooooooly fuck lol
>>38592278No one was sexually assaulted you just want dead trans people
>>38596054Don't play the white knight. You're evil.
>>38592494The UK "justice" system in action
>>38596008Somewhat gay.
>>38596044I bet the tranny was rock hard whe they got attacked. All apart of the master plan
>>38590356>youngshit model trannythis is like someone stabbing hunter schafer because they're mad about getting head from her
>>38592494especially armed with knives>>38590356I thought its america at first, gg
>>38596093you're braindead omfg you're so fucking braindead
>>38596106yeah I'm referring to in article the tranny says she's worried about the scarring because she doesn't know if she'll be able to continue her modeling career
>>38596108I’m heterosexual, and the thought of having sex with a person who has both sexual characteristics doesn’t appeal to me.Transgender people aren’t intersex, also.
>>38592563actually here in the UK all cis people can always tell, many are very loud about it. So he must've known, everyone knew:)
>>38596120doubt. if you're in the fashion scene youngshits are SNATCHED UP because they usually pass and having the tranny aspect which helps sell them, models need something that's "wow" about them like something weird and the tranny is an easy wow factor rn so the modeling scene LOVES youngshits
>>38596118>Transgender people aren’t intersex, also.u can pretty easily look this up and find out this is wrong and im sure someone will post the sources lol
>>38596118>Transgender people aren’t intersex, also.HRT literally changes the section of your genetic code that's read for further development if you know how DNA works, even excluding the brain shit HRT is artificially inducing an intersex condition.
>>38596141>>38596133also trans people are diagnosed intersex at nearly double the rate of cis people which makes it close to 4% of trannies
>>38590411>woman stabs woman 9 times>why did men do this?pottery
>>38596146It is all so tiresome.
Why should I care when rapists get stabbed again?
>>38596133>>38596141I don't care. This shit is all pseudoscience.
>>38596165facts dont care about your feelings goy lol
>>38596118Oh yeah, it would be very gay to have sex with a woman with androgen insensitivity.>Transgender people aren't intersex either.lol, no, literally many of them are intersex to some degree because they have messed up hormones. but I said youngshits because they haven't even reached male puberty, they're as close to women and intersex women as possible. Having sex with them isn't gay, they look like women that what's matter for lizard brain and that's why the guy fucked her.
>>38596176>Having sex with them isn't gay, they look like womenWhew. Sounds pretty fuckin' gay to me.You know we were all joking when we said traps aren't gay, right?
>>38590433No, that seems normal to me. You've never experienced a cis person being transphobic but still perceiving as your gender? Sometimes people literally have to try to misgender because they hate us but can't stop believing their lying eyes.He probably does kinda feel that she is a woman, but an inferior and disgusting type of woman who will cause him ridicule and humiliation. (I am not agreeing.)
>>38596184having sex with intersex women who look like women and if medicine didn't exist nobody would even knew it is so fucking gay. Orientation doesn't work like this, fucking gooner.
>>38596197You're just gonna tell me how my own sexuality works and baselessly call me a pornography addict?
>>38596219Yes
>>38590481The attack was planned by the guy who received oral sex and there were 3-4 other guys that joined in the beating
>>38596165>pseudoscienceno anon, only some sections of your DNA are read and hormones impact that, when a new section is read it causes different proteins to be produced, which changes how your body develops. you are changing to the opposite sex's development on a cellular level, it is by definition an artificially induced intersex condition
>>38596237>artificially induced intersex conditionNow that I can agree with. That's fundamentally different from just being intersex.
>>38596240I'm confused what you were calling pseudoscience then?
She raped him (rape via deception is still rape) and he defended himself. Why is that a bad thing again?
>>38590815Did you read the entire article?>The Old Bailey heard on Wednesday how Harris arranged the attack after the victim denied she was transgender before kissing him and performing an oral sex act days earlier.>Soon afterwards a friend phoned to tell Harris that the victim was transgender, which she admitted only after Harris held her at knifepoint saying 'I'll stab you if you lie'.>The victim later apologised, but Harris was already planning a revenge attack.
>>38591708> If you’re interested in preventing an infection… you kill the patientHave you tried using your brain while “playing devils advocate”?
>>38591846she could have easily avoided this by not getting murdered
I think there is a huge problem in feminist and lgbt spaces with the marginalization of cis men that is expressed when cases like this come up. Apparently consent is important for me but not for thee. More examples are the culture surrounding joking about prison rape, gays talking and being obsessed woth about 'converting' straight guys or feminists downplaying female teachers raping young students.
>>38596297spaces with the apologism for rape of cis men*
>>38595409Yeah but it is not RAPE to knowingly infect someone with HIV, it is knowingly infecting them with HIV.She didn’t rape anyone and she didn’t infect this boy with trans, she doesn’t have a disease, so why the hell are you even bringing up the crime of infecting people with HIV?
>>38596329I never said it was rape.
>>38596297He consented. Are you saying people can retract consent after the act and retroactively claim rape?
>>38596297He expressed full and enthusiastic consent
>>38596378Do you think removing a condom during intercourse and the other partner only noticing retroactively is rape?
>>38596297Also, feminists and lgbt people are the LEAST likely to joke about prison rape, that is literally exclusively the domain of straight men.
>>38596297>>38596399i agree with both of youif soceity didn't hate trannies nobody would care if men had sex with them. it's just that simple. society wanna put down everyone
>>38595419Why bother disclosing? You are going to kill us eitherway just for being trans and later claim we didn't tell you anyway so you get off scot free.
>hey before we go any further, i'm trans, are you ok with that ?why is this so fucking hard for you ?
>>38596451Cope but also literally just make sure it is in writing, text it so that there is 100% proof.>>38596481>there's nothing wrong with being trans which is why we'd rather be murdered than just say that we areIt's confusing to say the least
>>38596451>Why bother disclosing?Its been illegal not to disclose for a few years now.
>>38590356Stabbed with dick. Then with a knife. Poetry
>>38596126This. This girl is the one who led the attack so it obviously only happened because she was fuming the boy she liked got head off a tranny and the boy wa so embarrassed and he said wow she tricked me I can't believe this!
>>38596481Because not telling them is a part of the fetish
>>38596504>Cope but also literally just make sure it is in writing, text it so that there is 100% proof.And that is supposed to prevent post-nut murder by insecure moids in what way exactly?
>>38596903this isn't funny. if the tranny had been honest none of this would have happened.
>>38597377Well it removes the risk that comes from surprise, because they wouldn't be surprise, and it removes some of the risk that comes from pre-meditation because they now know that there is evidence against them if they try to pull the panic defense. It is obviously impossible to completely eliminate the risk that other people are going to cause you harm, but it is also obviously retarded to not take steps to mitigate it.Not that your response is in good faith anyway.
>>38596406>no responseThat's all you need to know really.Why is rape culture so abundant in trans spaces? Is this a hold-over from male, patriarchal socialization?
>>38596058This and posts like it are really convincing me of the need to delay HRT treatment until the patient is 26 or older – so the brain has a chance to finish developing, naturally!
>>38596114"Aspiring model", rarto. It's all in her head, pure delulu
>>38597512Well evidently it doesn't matter if there is proof or not, as the girl in the OP was unabashedly bragging about it. People seem quite emboldened by the fact that the justice system and society at large just don't value our lives the same.
>>38597976Proof does matter. The girl in this case almost certainly isn't going to get off on trans panic considering she wasn't even involved in the sexual encounter and if she does it is more reflective of underlying misandry than anything.
