my therapist>you’re already very feminine, just stop boymodingmy gf>you look so feminine, i can’t see a man anymorefacialteam surgeon>you look very feminine already, don’t really need any procedurerandom woman on the street before i can even open my mouth>look where you’re going, SIR! i’m getting some mixed signals
>>38595091you're boymoding you're not going to pass every time
>>38595091I’m sorry anon shit sucks
>>38595103lately i’m not passing any time :_( i used to malefail like half the time or more, hasn’t happened in weeks and i don’t know what changed.>>38595106thanks anon>>38595115not sure i get you message lol but it seems you were trying to get under my skin. good effort!
>>38595115Yes the pretending part is the problem here. Why the fuck the face team pretends even? They are financially incentivized to do exactly the opposite.
>>38595188idk maybe if you put effort into passing you'd look good
>>38595091facialmeme has shit results that doesnt usually lead to passing, try to cinsult woth someone else
>>38595240here: https://unsee cc/album#NNaIMLRLYltM yes my hair is shit. also ill get a brow shave anyway>>38595256who then? that french dude with the weird name? qasseimar or smth like this
>>38595580boymoding when you look like that is honestly a little silly. you might be able to pass reasonably consistently in girlmode
thin your eyebrows, use makeup, the philtrum looks irritated which makes it look more masc than it is, idk, probably should work on the hair too
>>38595580pass as an autistic woman, maybe it's the height or mannerisms
>>38595091>my therapist>you’re already very feminine, just stop boymodingyour therapist is a spineless quack
>OP has all of the information, but not the brain to comprehend he is in a hugboxJust because you look more sissified, doesn't mean you look like a woman. It in fact only emphasizes the point that you aren't a woman.
>>38595580your bone structure is already feminine, it's probably the hair (trans fems please try conditioner) and the flesh shape around the corners of your mouth and chin crease if anything
>>38595619thanks. i’m a deeply silly person desu>>38595637the philtrum thing drives me crazy, my theory is that there’s some super fine hairs that the laser didn’t get and give this weird coloration. i’m getting a more expensive laser session in a couple weeks>>38595643i am tall (5’11”) although i got this comment today while i was riding a bike :/>>38595660wdym the flesh??
>>38595103this. you could honestly put any tallish foid in boy clothes with messy hair and no makeup and a significant number of people would read her as a teenage boy, especially at a glance or in passing. the default human being for most people is a moid, you typically assume moid unless proven otherwise.
>>38595800thanks, that’s the kind of thing i try to tell myself haha
>>38595091watch where you're going HOSS!Therapy is so kiked, fake and gay.. I'm glad I'm not a sissy.
>>38595660>your bone structure is already feminine anooooon!99.99% of the the time it be like this
>>38595091>my therapist>>you’re already very feminine, just stop boymoding>my gf>>you look so feminine, i can’t see a man anymore>facialteam surgeon>>you look very feminine already, don’t really need any procedure>random woman on the street before i can even open my mouth>>look where you’re going, SIR!then stop boymoding in public retard
>>38596216i knowwww. you’re right
>>38595701>wdym the flesh??those who've gone through a testosterone fueld first puberty tend to have thicker skin and muscle around the muscles by the corner of the mouth, look closely at the area and compare it to a cis woman's. More "men" also tend to have an up turned mouth corner vs "women" who tend to have down turned (partly responsible for "resting bitch face")also pro-tip, you can pluck your eyebrows to be slightly more raised at the corners. Men's eyebrows are either flat or upturned, women fashion their eyebrows the other wayI have an obsessive eye for gender features in white faces. I could go on but it'd only cause brainworms and you really do pass quite well. I just fancy myself an expert at this (bi-gender that can pass as either or neither)
>>38596276>>38596931seriously I want to re-affirm that going through FFS would be a waste on you
>>38596931oh yeah, i heard about the skin thickness issue, didn’t think it was noticeable in the mouth area but i guess it makes sense. thanks for the in depth response! brows are hard cause i keep trying to make them more feminine looking and i never quite get it right :/ oh well
>>38596946thank you anon, this gives me a bit of hope
>>38596995you probably just aren't well versed and practiced in presenting and being seen as female. I may be a bit biased but I think you may have an easier time with this than the reverse. You can just excuse quirks as being autistic or being from a different cultureI'm actually detransing because I don't have confidence in myself being a man. I'm not a man or a woman but I have to choose in my world, and the devil you know is better that the devil you don't, but neither are good choices for me. oh well
>>38597756that’s definitely a factor, but that’s why it feels particularly shitty when i get misgendered before i can talk or emote in any way. i don’t know about masculinity being harder…but what do i know, i was conditioned since birth to adapt my expression and mannerisms to the masculine standards. sorry to hear you’re detransitioning :( have you spoken to a therapist about it? they can be super helpful if you find the right one.