If straight trans women really wanted to be traditional they would marry cis women and get them pregnant, marry them, and start a cishet family.
Um... no? You can't magically make an androphile attracted to women, and being unattracted to your partner is a recipe for a failed marriage.
Anyway, straight trans women are most ideal for Muslim men given that they can marry up to four women. No worries about fertility.
>>38604729plenty of people have married women who weren't attracted to women and started families nonethelessyou are doing it as a duty to society
>>38604707You can still be a trad wife and a tranny the catch is you have to convert to like Shia Islam or Baha'i.
>>38604758These are the guys who leave their family at like 50 because of gay fomo, alienating everyone and creeping them out.
>>38604822It's fine to marry a woman and have a normal family then leave to be gay. But you have to make sure all the kids are out of the house first.
>>38604834No it absolutely is not okay.
tell me about your father. I want know about your father and your relationship with your father.
>>38604840It is.You fulfilled your obligations to your family/society and now you get to be a degenerate.
>>38604834just never leave to be gaybe the man your wife and kids need
>>38604822only happens because of an existing community of visible gays, similar to how john 50s troon out in middle age from fomo because they realize it's like a thing you can do but would never happen if they weren't exposed to the cognitohazard of troonery.
>>38604980Can you explain how troonery is a cognitohazard?
>>38604990i'm not retarded so i won't pretend that dysphoria isn't real or that alternative gender identities haven't existed throughout history, but in the modern context most troons only transition they've been exposed to the idea that transition is something that they can do, and it's relatively easy to do in countries with informed consent HRT and a healthy supply of surgeons. it's why there are so many late transitioning john 50s, the majority of them went through life in a pre-internet world just not understanding why they feel they do, but now troons are inescapable and once you realize that there's something you can do beyond just shaving your body and crossdressing, that's going to plant a powerful seed of fomo in your mind.
>>38604707>If women want to be traditional they should marry women and start a familyok anon time for your shizzo meds
>>38605111>women>penises
>>38604707No. They are woman and should marry men like me.
>>38605119that's not traditional at allyou both have penises
>>38605123So? I want a cute tranner wife. Fuck you.
>>38605132that's fag shitain't no trad country allowing fag shit like that
>>38605123Thats totally traditional, you mistake Christian poison as traditional. Traditional is pagans who know that true love can only bloom between a man and femboi
>>38604707Why would a straight woman marry a woman?
>>38605114there are no penises, only inverted vaginas
>>38605134Na they are women. Shits streight. One trans wife please.
>>38605134All classical nations allowed it from Greece to Carthage.Japan allowed it until westernization.Christianity isn't tradition, its a Jewish psyop to make Europe weak.
>>38605144no classical nations allowed men to marry other men legally
>>38605154That's because marriage wasn't a codified ideal based on love, it was a statement of ownership over a woman.Literally a transfer of ownership from a father to a new master.
>>38605161If you had a choice between being abandoned in the wilderness alone or taken care of but treated like property, which would you choose?
>>38605165Anyone in the first scenario would pick the second and anyone in the second scenario would pick the first.
>>38605171dodge
>>38605274I choose abandoned in the wilds, alone.
>>38605449As comfortable as that is, I place a high value on autonomy.
>>38605478Dont get me wrong I love to be cared for and protected but Im not gonna trade my autonomy over for it.
>>38604707A lesbian marriage isn't traditional. But yeah as nice as domestic life sounds I wouldn't be able to do any of the things I need to do so it doesn't matter.
>>38605587You can detrans your body but you can't detrans your soul so it'd still be too gay for me thanks
>>38604707Based.>>38604729My grandpa is gay, but married a woman, it's basically an open secret within the family. You're just coming up with excuses for your shitty trad larp. Being trad is all about procreation and creating a lively comfy home for your husband, if you can't do either of these things, you aren't trad, you're a joke.
>>38604707i aint gay so i aint into women
>>38605768many men that were not into women married them nonetheless
>>38607317these people would not be able to handle east asian norms around homosexuality
>>38607317i aint one of them
>>38607873i don't have personal experience, but from what i've read it's not terrible in the major cities so long as you pass and don't involve yourself in any kind of 'activism', healthcare is relatively cheap and accessible but they've cracked down on diy and it's not as easy as informed consent clinics. if you don't pass or you want to be recognized as female without bottom surgery, then perish.
>>38604707i dont want to be traditional