>pretty much universally accepted some MtFs transition because of internalized homophobia>nobody ever considers some MtFs transition because of the "all straight cis white men are rapists" rhetoric Why? It would explain the huge number of former autistic white guys without an ounce of femininity (full beard, etc.) beforehand
>>38606448>all straight cis white men are rapistsThis is redundant with AGP.Only AGP males think this way.
>>38606473That's...my point. Are you slow?They internalized radfem rhetoric and transitioned on a subconscious level to escape it.
>>38606477No, they think this way because they are AGP in the first place and feel like rapists due to autoandrophobia.
>>38606448>internalized homophobiaalso known as the understanding derived from lived experience that being a gay male fucking suckscongrats to anyone who has escaped by trooning
>>38606491Gay men are far more respected than any MtF
>>38606499neither are respected
>>38606491Just for clarity yes I am a larping gay male. It sucks, yes. It's easy to see why someone would want to escape because I've...been there? All I'm saying is how come no one considers the reverse? It must suck to be a cis straight white [autistic] guy who isn't Gigachad now because literally everyone is saying you're evil or are lame 24/7. That seems like it'd create scenarios ripe for wanting to escape.>>38606499You ever run into someone who clearly disapproves of gay people, and suddenly starts approving of them because they realize they're the lesser evil? >>38606504Of course not, but one more so than the other. Gay tops are probably respected more than bottoms.
>>38606504Most people imagine all MtFs as trooned out rapist hons who let their gooner fetishes take over their pathetic lives. Gay men are near the top of acceptance scale, MtFs are somewhere slightly above offending pedophiles.
>>38606514>That seems like it'd create scenarios ripe for wanting to escapethat sort of person becomes an asmongold, andrew tate, elon musk fanboy. not a troon>Gay tops are probably respected more than bottomsno shit. it's not gay tops who are trooning is it?
>>38606448The lgbt community and its allies have started falling for terf rhetoric years ago and now we are paying the price. Only undersocialized retarded women would assume that every man is a rapist. Is every man hypothetically capable of rape? Yes but this applies to women too. Even now people don't realize how hurtful it is to be assumed to be a terrible person or predator just because you were born with a penis. I'm not even amab myself and I hate it because these people are supposedly against gender or sex essentialism.
>>38606528>that sort of person becomes an asmongold, andrew tate, elon musk fanboy. not a troonYou sure this isn't also an avenue?
>>38606543People who suffer from this would be instantly cured if we turned the internet off
>>38606543oh come on it isn't hardbeing sexual as a male when you're a tranny in the closet fucking sucks, it's incredibly dysphoric for very understandable reasons because you are not a man and embodying male sexuality is fucking disgusting and awful
>>38606577Cis men suffer from this because male sexuality itself is inherently considered predatory and disgusting, it has nothing to do with being trans
>>38606583i literally spelled out exactly how it has to do with being trans, this was my experiencebut i guess it doesn't count, moid is talking
>>38606615You just described the default experience for anyone embodying the male sexuality. Most people just don't troon out over it
>>38606577>>38606583>>38606615>>38606643MOST young men find it hard to even approach women because they're scared of being called a predatory or "getting cancelled"
>>38606448the weirdest thing to me is all the weird sociological rationalizations you guys have. once my brain was developed enough to think, i knew being a boy and going throuugj male puberty wasn't what i wanted and i got more sad as i got closer to it. boom, transitioned and now im functional and happy enough. never regretted it. i dont give a shit about others or whom i date or their sexuality. i transitioned for ME. bitch
>>38607520it's the first thing i ever actually wanted for myself, everything before was just well this is what's expected of me better suck it up
>>38607528right!!! you do it for you. i dont understand the mental gymnastics of ohhh im gay guess ill be super gay which equals girl for some reason i guess??? no girl you want the primary and secondary characteristics cause u want them girl
Why would you tranisition into an abominable rapehon if you wish to eacape rape guilt? It literally makes no sense. Trannies get accused of being rapist if they look at a woman wrong.
>>38607576not just woman either lol we just had a bunch of threads about a trans woman being a rapist who deserved to get jumped and stabbed half to death for giving a man a bj.you are fucking retarded op kys
>>38606448i transitioned because women don't like submissive feminine boys
>>38606448that's called internalized misandry and explains the influx of transbians
>>38607620passionate frotting and kissing (with tongue)
>>38607563>um what, is that actually true?no
>>38606491fr. the avg gay male top wont even let a bottom live with them. they constantly upgrade to the next model, and they never ever keep a bottom past experiation.
>>38606448Right so you have to understand feminazis are only dominant in some regions. These regions, such as Seattle, also tend to have lots of MTFs.In most of the world though it's the opposite. Women are actually oppressed in much of the world and men are rapey AND women don't talk back. Think Afghanistan or India or w/e. It's bad in most places. Including large parts of the US like the rust belt and south. Therefore, when men from California or Washington vent their frustrations for being treated like a rapist locally, no one else in the rest of the world can understand. This type of sentiment is hyper regional and confined to a few small areas. Most other people literally cannot believe you because it is so contrary to their lived experiences.Therefore "fetishist rapist freak" makes more sense to them because that's how most men in their eastern european village act. This is a problem with online discourse in general desu, some issues really need a certain level of familiarity to understand
>>38606583it's different in subtle ways, and easy to confuse if you haven't encountered enough of each type of person to see the distinctioncloseted trans women who are like this actually find male sexuality predatory and disgusting, they don't want to embody it but are afraid that they actually might unknown to themselves and are deeply confused if their partners want them to act on desire in the ways that men do.cis men in the position you're talking about are concerned about what other people will think of them for acting on their sexuality.the trans women are afraid of being rapists, the cis men are afraid people will think they're rapists. important distinction, once you see it you can't stop seeing it.
>>38606448>MtFs transition because of the "all straight cis white men are rapists" rhetoricJust to clarify...You are asking why people accept that trans people having gender dysphoria is a good reason to transition, but why people don't believe that transitioning because you don't want to be called a rapist is valid?
>>38606528> that sort of person becomes an asmongold, andrew tate, elon musk fanboy. not a troonHoly newfag they’re the same people. That’s why they hate each other. Incel to troon pipeline and vice versa. It’s all so tiresome. We can go back 20 years and find 99% of the same exact people in various dead fashion subculture/cliques, social media introduced the sunk cost fallacy and now we have death cults.
>>38607576Nobody *wants* to transition into an abominable rapehon, that's just what they inevitably turn into in practice. Their hopes are to turn into fucking Sailor Moon or some shit. Ranma maybe.
>>38606448>pretty much universally accepted some MtFs transition because of internalized homophobiaUh, no?
>>38609602OP isn't talking about who is or isn't "valid" in some tumblrtard sense, or what is and isn't a good reason to troon out. He's asking why certain truths are commonly accepted whereas others, equally true, are near-universally rejected.
>>38607520What year did you transition in?I knew I wanted to transition at age 12 in the early 2000s. I even stumbled on the tsroadmap website which listed everything else.But somehow I saw a lot of "You're an AGP not trutrans it won't work on you" and "You need to cut your dick off and get srs right away" and I was like huh this seems kind of extreme for a 12 year old. I think I'll wait til I'm older and can think more clearly about this if it's even a thing.But if you're like a zoomer or in the right social circles then yea it'd be an easy choice
>>38606448>some MtFs transition because of internalized homophobiathis is anti-trans rhetoric and used to justify us having our rights taken away
>>38610252>>38610365That's a kneejerk response...Blanchard very much thinks MtFs should transition and this is his position
