how do you know for real if you're just being hugboxxed by the people in your life or if they actually think you're a woman? i operate under the assumption i don't pass and that i'm just lucky to be around nice people, but i'm curious how others approach this.
>>38608600Idk jokes can tell a lot what people think about you
>>38608640interesting, elaborate.
>>38608645nta people who like you won't make jokes about things that make you legitimately insecure
>>38608654oh. well i'm more talking about people i've never actually discussed my transition with and who just gender me female, like say my roommate and my coworkers and some of my cis friends and acquaintances, but you're making me realise things about a couple of my friendships lol
>>38608600Do you live in a liberal area? I think people there are more likely to gender you properly out of politeness or because they are aware of trans people and know not to misgender them (not necessarily hugboxxing in this case). Whereas i assume in conservitard areas they are more likely to be malicious. Though they might also be ignorant enough to gender you properly
>>38608600impossible to say because the people who are hugboxxing you will never admit it. i've been privy to enough private conversation with cis women where they basically admit that trannies aren't really women in their heads that i just assume its always the case. thankfully this never seems to actually translate into any bigotry or whatever, they just secretly think you're their autistic best gay male friend. ironically cis guys seem to buy into it more for some reason, enough of them are literally just johnny bravo tier apes that if you make their dick twitch you count as a woman in their brain. this is just my experience and own weird thought experiments talking though.
>>38608696>Do you live in a liberal area?lol that's a great question. my country is simultaneously one of the most atheistic, one of the most culturally libertarian, one of the most pro-US and one of the most politically right-wing countries in europe. people here are all over the place, you can't apply an american lib vs con dichotomy to them. they tend to have a "mind your own business" type mentality but i don't think they're particularly progressive, even here in the capital you don't tend to see many trans people around, the odd twinkhon here and there but you'll never see actual boomerhons like in the west. yet on EU discrimination surveys we score slightly above average for the amount of people who'd be comfortable having a trans colleague or friend, much better than the other countries around.>>38608709>i've been privy to enough private conversation with cis women where they basically admit that trannies aren't really women in their heads that i just assume its always the casepretty much, noticed the same.
>>38608645It's very personal and you should observe a person in different situations with different people.Also if people disgusted by you or whatever they give you the cold shoulder and you can see if they are real about you or not We can think together if you give an example.
>>38608792Sorry for assuming you are in the usa lol. I would assume if you don't see many trans people around that its not hugboxxing but of course I don't know what its like over there. When people don't know much about trans people they will talk to you as if you're cis and its really jarring tbdesu
>>38608600Start with yourself. When do you think other trans women are women and when are you just hugboxxing?
>>38608803i don't really have examples honestly. i've experienced that cold shoulder type behaviour a lot in the past, to the point where i'm kinda taken aback by the fact that a lot of the people in my life currently seem to just genuinely fully include me and want to spend time with me. it's weird, i'm not used to it.>>38608822idk many trans women honestly and the few mtf friends i have are absolute babes, i've no issue seeing them as women. the only time i really struggled to see a trans woman as a woman was when i lived in the west and i met like an actual straight up long-haired 6'3 dude with a deep voice who called himself alice or something and even my woke queer friends defaulted to he/him.
>>38608863For me it sounds like you pass and people love you. You made it. Congrats.
>>38608923well i'm not like ms popular by any means either, but i no longer get the impression i had most of my life where i felt like people were annoyed i even talked to them or where i'd have to pester people to pay attention to me. i don't feel ignored or like an inconvenience anymore.
>>38608600you sound already like a retarded women so u got the mental annoying gymnastics down
>>38609324elaborate lol what makes me come across like a retarded woman? i've always thought of myself as overly malebrained.
>>38609346most women, and mainly the really hot ones, are super in their head and all uwu im not pretty uwu im not this or that when very much are and everyone agrees. i think this is the female way of gettting attention/affirmation and its really annoying because they do it constantly like bitch i came inside u of course i think ur hot lmao
>>38609399i'm definitely not "hot" lol believe me. i know hot trannies and i'm not one of them. i'm cute on a good day maybe but i'm absolutely not the kind of self-focused hot passoid you're thinking of.
>>38609422yeah u are def fem brained i bet so many people in your life say you pass but you act like that doesnt matter at all
>>38609436not really? i'm not some attention whore, i have a couple of close friends i confide in but for the most part i don't talk to people about my transition, it's something i kind of loathe to discuss honestly. so no i don't really get feedback on my passability.
>>38609749then i guess im sorry for the misogyny>>38608600>how do you know for real if you're just being hugboxxed by the people in your lifei guess to answer this is to have genuine people in your life, ie, people who are okay with disagreeing with you, an easy way is people who are very argumentative, also u could ask me i guess but im just a kind stranger
>>38608600thats how i feel when i talk to anyone afab to be honest but around amabs im 70% of the time okay but sometimes ill be a huge passive aggressive bitch because my brain tells me theyre treating me like a boy and it drives me fucking insane that they wont just admit it
