>thought id be a shoulderhon>shoulder width end to end is only 18 inchesam i gmi?also I was feeling really good about starting to transition a few days ago but now I feel kinda bad about it. im 26 and honestly even if the results were good i still feel like its about over, Ive just made decent friends that i like too and I dont want to give them a reason to throw me away too. I think i have narcissistic tendencies so I feel like thinking of myself as a martyr may be enough to satisfy my narcissism to make me justify a life of repression.the crypt exchange i used to buy crypto to order estradiol has my stuff on a one week hold and Honestly questioning whether I should even do it or just wait for crypto to keep rising and then convert it back to USD, forgetting about this whole charade.
>>38611806what crypto do u hold, if you plan on holding you might have to wait a couple months, it may be smarter to wait till near the end of 2025 to get the most money out of it
>>3861180618 is badanything after 15 is bad
>>38611806repressing when you are trans is retarded. troon now
>>38611825>what crypto do u hold, if you plan on holding you might have to wait a couple months, it may be smarter to wait till near the end of 2025 to get the most money out of itlitecoin its already gone up by like 15% since i bought it but its gonna keep going up in the short term im surealso xrp, which i think is going to take a bit longer to pay off>>38611831ngmi>>38611832realistically how will my life improve in any way. I feel like if I just got some womens clothes to wear around the house or sumn this could be enough of an outlet
>>38611914waow, litecoin is gonna do really well because i think there is going to be ETFs for it to come out soon, same with XRP, those might be worth holding longer
>>38611806you're not going to make any money investing $100 into crypto and taking it out when it's worth $105like even if it goes up 50% which would be huge, it just means you made like $50buy the estrogen
>>38611929>waow, litecoin is gonna do really well because i think there is going to be ETFs for it to come out soon, same with XRP, those might be worth holding longerfuck Im broke so i may just say fuck it and not transition, whatever, transitioning when not rich is retarded anyways, i live in an evangelical town in the south, not the kinda place to be a hon, its over.
>>38611964i invested like 500$ into it bc i knew it would be rising but i might just let it stay 500 instead of making it 400
>>38611968>fuck Im broke so i may just say fuck it and not transition, whateverdamn this is really sad, just buy the estrogen girl be what your meant to be, you could always buy more im sure you have a job right?
>>38611806you'll make it with those shoulders if ur like 6'4 or 5'8 at 300 lbs
>>38612019>just buy the estrogen girlbeing called a girl by a random person on the internet just gave me such a rush of euphoria, lol. thanks for that>>38612019>you could always buy more im sure you have a job right?i did but multiple ppl there were harrassing me so I had a mental breakdown and quit. i need to find another asap
>>38612118>i did but multiple ppl there were harrassing me so I had a mental breakdown and quit.damn you really dont deserve this, then i guess maybe hold onto the crypto? but like i said it may be months for it to go up significally again, also if you really need money now it may go down alot too
>>38612114>you'll make it with those shoulders if ur like 6'4 or 5'8 at 300 lbsim 5'11 and 179lbsmy dad also made me do sports in HS and despite years of only cardio/yoga and abusing stims at many points, i still have rather muscular legs and arms and whatnot
>>38612114>im 5'11 and 179lbs>my dad also made me do sports in HS and despite years of only cardio/yoga and abusing stims at many points, i still have rather muscular legs and arms and whatnot*180 i meantAlso, due to the residual muscular structure, at 180lb i look rather skinny even though im 180 at 5'11>>38612138yeah ill figure it out, thanks for listening, i think since trump is actually (somewhat bizarrely) positive towards crypto inauguration day is likely to see a big surge, but who can say.
>>38612267>crypto inauguration day is likely to see a big surge, but who can say.god i hope so i bought a option call for the inauguration hopefully that hits>>38612267>trump is actually (somewhat bizarrely) positive towards cryptoi dont think its bizzare, hes a retard who is obssesed with money and crypto is going up alot also all the crypto billionares gave his campaign a bunch of money so he just supports it now. "play with your little bitcoin"
>>38611806it depends. i started at 26, i've only been on 7 months and i've noticed plenty of changes. my skin is softer, i'm a B cup, my fat is starting to go to my thighs and hips. i obviously don't pass yet, but with another year and a half maybe and a few more laser sessions i think i have a chance. i have a narrow frame and generally fall within cis female measurements, maybe slightly outside, and i've always been very feminine. starting age doesn't matter as much as genetics. you can do it. don't let the fact that you're 26 get you down IF you had a chance to begin with. it's genuinely retarded to think that you will never pass to cissoids because of some arbitrary age gate. MOST people won't pass after their mid 20-s, but that doesn't literally mean you won't. plus, even if you're a neverpasser, starting hrt will improve your mental state. if honmoding is your only answer, it's better than ending up a mindbroken john50.
ok guys its over its OP here i just did some ketamine and realized transitioning just isnt feasible. I stepped outside of myself and what did i see? a weird anxious faggot with ugly long hair and acne scars and self harm scars. Thats what im seen as by others. this isnt found attractive by anyone, its likely just unsettling. If were being real "passing" or ever being a person that will be accepted by others while trans is a nice dream just not feasible to most. it wont be happening without extensive surgery which i will never be able to afford. And as much as the "youre not doing it for others, youre doing it for yourself" sounds nice, humans are social creatures and instantly alienating myself from 95% of fellow humans should at least be considered. Its over. Theres no point trying. Ill just become some unemployable weirdo that masturbates with autistic guys on discord. Being male is horrible and i never liked bieng one. and that doesnt change the fact that i am a male and will always be seen as one by others. its so over.
>>38612902>I stepped outside of myself and what did i see? a weird anxious faggot with ugly long hair and acne scars and self harm scars. Thats what im seen as by others. this isnt found attractive by anyone, its likely just unsettling.omg are you me
>>38612902what do you have to lose by just boymoding/manmodingwhy are repressors so retarded
>>38612929>instantly alienating myself from 95% of fellow humans>and that doesnt change the fact that i am a male and will always be seen as one by othersHRT is an entire other puberty, its very dramatic i hear, i doubt ill really be able to do all that without eventually feeling the need to bother others about it. Also, You grow breasts. etc. Probably just as alienating as being an actual tranny. Why put my friends through that? Why put myself through that? Ive had many cishet and even cis gay ppl tell me that they basically dont see trannies or other gnc types as capable of being empathized with, ive had multiple refer to trannies as "things", saying "yeah i just dont empathize with things that i dont want to relate with".This is really just how cishet ppl are. youre just a "thing" that they cant even feel empathy for. Repression sucks but Im not wrong about any of these things
>>38613021>cishetcis altogether lets be real. fags outside of urban centers hate us too
mine are 19 unfortunately at 5'6"
i appreciate the support but i think this board made me think its more simple than what it is. I can just get my estrogen, voice train, fat cycle, etc and even if im a hon at least i feel like myself and i still may have the capability of being a cute hon.But no. theres so much more to it. Im uprooting my entire life and everything i ever knew. It would be nice to think thats something I can just -do-, but its not. its over
why would you rather live in hell until you die instead of doing something
>>38613337>why would you rather live in hell until you die instead of doing somethingliving in hell until i dieyes thats what it would be to be a trannyI have been self destructive in the past and it was because of the anguish of being male. but ngl, the self destruction was fun. why not just let it get worse? I can even celebrate my destruction, I can enjoy the ride to hell instead of just dropping everything and entering hell immediately.
>>38613649straight up deluding yourself at this point
>>38613649>just dropping everything and entering hell immediately.thats what trooning out would be. I may as well just have some fun at this point. its already over anyway
i can stay male and just be living death. I wont shower or eat, and ill bother everyone as much as i want. Ill drink constantly, and work out a bunch, so i can pick fights as often as I want. Ill be a pain to everyone I meet and be a reminder of pain and suffering to all. Ill keep doing this until this kills me. this is what i want. fuck it, and fuck this life and this earth
