Why hasn't his voice dropped at all? Is he even on testosterone? Did he somehow try to do his entire transition surgically instead? If so, why? Please answer one or more of these questions.
>>39384944i mean there’s also no facial hair or beard shadow so ye i don’t think this persons on hrt
>>39384960Elliot Page came out 5 years ago at this point. Why has he not taken testosterone?
Wasn't that interview 2-3 years ago?
>>39384960>>39384983total fucking fraud who has done more to damage the community than anything even remotely good
Why do people obsess over this man? I know some of us here had a precocious puberty but hormones takes a little while.
>>39384983most “ftm”s don’t actually wanna transition
>>39385012I started hormones only a couple of months before he came out and I have a full beard, bass voice, and I'm stealth. There's definitely something going wrong if he's on testosterone.
>>39384944His voice has changed, it is very easy to compare looking at an old clip and a new one, just because it's clocky doesn't mean it didn't change.
>>39385023Pais?
>>39384944Maybe he just started too late? He started in his 30s.
>>39385079>pooner with paiswhat a nightmare if that's it, god i would feel bad for him with that
>>39385023Sounds like you have an intersex condition brother... Even cis men take a while to develop through their teen years. Or you could just be lucky.
>>39384944Riley Gaines is such a fat fucking retard
>>39385093He's been out since December 2020. 4-5 years seems sufficiently long. Not every cis man has the genetics to grow a full beard even after that time, but there are also boys with full beards in their late teen years.
>>39385089I know a poonah with CAIS
>>39385093I do not. 5 years is perfectly reasonable to experience those changes. I certainly have genes for a lot of hairiness, but that's it.
>>39384944he was so cute before TTliterally a perfect angel
>>39385107Assuming a boy starts puberty at 10, I 100% what the facial looked like in the guys in high school. He's on the right track. I feel you though, I developed faster than everyone else and was shocked others were so slow.
>>39385023looking at a recent interview from last year, his skin is visibly masculinized, but his voice is only slightly deeper. He clearly is on T but not getting the full effects. My guess is he started fin when he started transitioning out of fear of baldness so he's not getting the DHT he needs to masculinize properly
>>39385135he just looks tired and older
>>39385135Bog standard pint size butch lesbian desu
>>39385135Jesus, is this what results are like for lateshits?
>>39384997What did you say about our glorious king, you CHUD BIGOT?
>>39385181only if you do something stupid like blocking some androgens from the start of your transition, or you low dose.
>>39385135he seems slightly masculinized but short on passing but idk i guess that checks out for mid 30s trans. weird i can't find any pics with a textured/stubble face tho. i feel he is getting poondosed
>>39385232The ab implants look hilariously bad. I didn't even know those existed until he got them.
>>39385232>i feel he is getting poondosedI don't think it's a low dose thing, with recieving incomplete masculinization like this like visibly his skin is rougher and more masc and his arms being naturally bulkier without working out but no facial hair and voice not dropping much, seems much more like he takes finasteride (you need to have DHT for facial hair, body hair, and complete voice masculinization)
>>39385250why not just exercise? girls can have abs
>>39384944She's just reflecting the reality of pooning out. This is your average pooner. At best a pre-pubescent boy without functioning junk.
>>39385260No natty abs have ever looked like his.
>>39385260because you have to keep extremely low BW to achieve the same look if natty, with the implants you can stay healthy and still have a visible 6 pack
>>39385267i didn't say they had nor would i knowi don't get why you would even have ab implants when you can just work out to grow them even as a 100% natty afab
>>39385270because afabs need higher bf% to be healthy? i guess that makes sense but there are still women with abs
>>39385278>because afabs need higher bf% to be healthy? no everyone does, without breasts AFAB and AMAB have about the same amount at healthy size for them. gym bros have a lot of health issues if they maintain their cutting weight and most abs that look like his you have to be super dehydrated for. if you've gotten into fitness at all you should know this. It's basically just for looking fit when you're not cutting or dehydrated.
>>39385250fuck i didn't even notice that's legit disturbing lol. why the fuck would you do this >>39385306he looks ana and dehydrated T_T
>>39385254So you're saying that if I get finasteride i can hide taking test from my parents?>t. reppoon
>>39385315this pic is 3 years old>>39385232this is what i was referring to, where regular abs wouldnt be visible.
>>39385319yeah but it won't do much other than give you a bit more muscle mass with no work and slightly deeper voice.also, move out. You're an adult, every tranny had to do this to transition, stop being a tard.
>>39385306oh no you're completely wrong women have like 2x the essential bf% than menfor men essential is like 7% and healthy like 12% but for women these numbers are basically 2x and boobs are not just bags of fati do agree that mega visible abs are not sustainable and presumably most people know that showcase bodybuilders etc don't stay as they are seen for very long but afab and amab bf is not the same at all and there are absolutely guys with visible abs all the timeheck i used to have visible abs all the time albeit not as much as him
>>39385332>oh no you're completely wrong women have like 2x the essential bf% than men>for men essential is like 7% and healthy like 12%no that's not true on T with mastectomy>and boobs are not just bags of fatboobs are on average 70-90% fat. but yeah there are glands in there and shit
>>39385328My parents are paying for my college and i'm 18. If they manage to sniff something out, I lose all funding
>>39385344it's a derailing argument anyway because you can still have abshaving ab inserts like that is the equivalent of those turbo hons walking around with watermelon bolt onsparticularly when his arms, chest, etc are so underdeveloped it looks ridiculous here >>39385315he was so pretty :(
>>39385382>it's a derailing argument anyway because you can still have absyeah but not healthilyalso that pic is old like right after he started trooning and was at the start of when he was getting healthier>>39385232this is more accurate
>>39385361then probably don't risk it imo but yeah if you stayed on a lower dose + fin you'd still get mental effects and very very little real masculinization so your parents probably wouldn't notice and it would be slightly beneficial
>>39384944some ftms are like that desu.I went to a restaurant and instantly clocked the FTM server. He had a full beard, but he was short and had a tiny head and frame. I wouldn't have known he was FTM though until I heard him speak. he had the clockiest, most fem voice I'd ever heard from a guy.
>>39385415yes nigger you can have abs healthily just not super huge ones
>>39385465>super huge onesyou are the most sedentary individual if you just said this about abs. hit the gymyour abs do not get super huge, it's about definition not size, you're actually slow if you think you can have a six pack at a healthy bf%, and keeping at cutting weight lowers the amount of energy you have throughout day and is super unhealthy
>>39385518lol you are straight up retarded>it's about definition not size,yeah wtf do you think I meant? you're raging out against a total strawmanyou can totally have abs and be healthy i literally did for years you just can't have incredibly defined abs with deep contours and shapesorry that your brain is too retarded to understand what i meant by "super huge"
>>39385549yeah I totally believe you when you've misunderstood so many aspects of fitness and biological facts in this convo>you just can't have incredibly defined abs with deep contours and shapealmost like that's exactly the point of the surgery which I said at the start you actual brainletalmost seems from the way you talk like you've never actually hit the gym and are some loser who concern trolls on the tranny board and I am a poonchaser chad who could kill you with my hands
>>39385592lmao all those hormones are fucking with your brain you're literally incapable of having a conversation>you actual brainletyeah and my point is why have ab inserts when you can just have natty abs in like a year even if they wont be so absurd>and I am a poonchaser chad who could kill you with my handskeep raging lmaoseriously chill outidk why you think you need to understand shit to have abs either it's literally just a matter of not being totally sedentary and being skinny if you're amabi have never hit the gym, unless a pool counts, because i have never wanted to squat or bench press 200lbs and running around is free, pushups are free, and idk what my dumbells even cost they're so old
>>39385179deadass
>>39384944i think he voicetrained pre t so it just isnt as noticeable
>>39385643>lmao all those hormones are fucking with your brain you're literally incapable of having a conversationI'm a gay man with a cock I don't take other shit unless I'm cycling and I'm not right now.>yeah and my point is why have ab inserts when you can just have natty abs in like a year even if they wont be so absurdand I told you why at the start of the reply chain, are you retarded? why are you even arguing?>idk why you think you need to understand shit to have abs either it's literally just a matter of not being totally sedentary and being skinny if you're amab>running around is free, pushups are free, and idk what my dumbells even cost they're so oldnone of these exercises get you visible abs I know you're lying, bro couldn't even think of planks or crunches
>>39385703nigger can't even read between the linesand swimming does give you abs it's a great core workout>why are you even arguing?does it occur to you that there are forms of communication other than arguing?>unless I'm cycling oh no it wouldn't
>>39385723yeah I'm sure the person who comes on here to concern troll at trannies they don't know is healthy at all and not some loser who doesn't movedude I know I'm pathetic for coming on here but at least it's because I'm a gay who wants to fuck pooners, you just have even less life and that's saying something
>>39385742i legitimately have no idea what you're even referring to
>>39385753then you're retarded
>>39385770yeahhh i'm sure you aren't confusing 4chan for one person lolafter all you're so totally stable
