Going to be trying this out.FAQs: >what is MEF?"Masochistic Emasculation Fetish" is a term that gained internet prominence through the posts of a reddit/tumblr user called whxylup and appeared on some microblogs in the early 2010s. >Are MEFs AGP? MEF is not a scientific term, although many have drawn a connection with AGP (which is of dubious scientific validity.) Anyone of any gender or orientation can experience MEF, but it appears most common in trans women.QOTT: when and how did you realize your identity as a man was irrevocably broken, and there was no going back?
finally, a thread for us straight men who aren't trans but like to dream about being the tranny or woman sexually.
MEF is just a masochistic subset of AGP. Like, youre srsly telling me you wouldnt magically transform into a woman if you had the chance and even if it didnt involve humiliation? Come on now
>>39407314I agree. I think it stems from how you view women. Humiliation is not part of my AGP, because I view being a woman as an upgrade.
>>39407314>>39407263I am a fully transitioned trans woman, suegery and everything. I would never breathe a word of what I post about MEF to anyone i know personally. It is extremely incendiary and politically incorrect (or is treated that way) frequently there is a lot of hand wringing that I couldn't be trans, must be a man, a sissy, ugly, a pollard, etc. If you ask me it shows just how strong the taboos against transfeminine sexuality actually are, and I personally want to learn more about these taboos and how they work.
>>39407249What does Minnie have to do with this
>>39407314>>39407342>>39407249Im agp. mild, no dysphoria. dont think I am a woman, dont want to be a woman..but I get turned on larping as one for horny men...and yet i dont find it humiliating to do it. I find empowering and validating. Thats doesnt sound like mef so what am I ?
>>39407342This is a faulty assumption (and is constructed to be demeaning, uncharitable). I have always viewed women as objectively superior and been a staunch feminist my whole life. I have also met FtM MEFS, cis lesbian MEFs, and one heterosexual cis F with an interest in MEF. MEFs usually feel bad about their fetish which is of course part of how the fetish operates."You just hate women" is a common refain that falls under the umbrella of shaming men for failing to be proper or adequately masculine men and i believe is a part of reinforcing the MEF trope-- the hazard og undermining one's own identity and attendant loss of control.
>>39407373Euphoric homosexuality is one possible end state of MEF and that's the channel through which gay men experience the fetish, these themes sometimes involve the encouragement of attractive women to pursue gay desires.It sounds like you're processing latent MEF in a healthy way and have a more or less stable identity as a queer man, are you bisexual or gay?
>>39407380What makes it humiliating then? If you truly view women as being superior, then being one should be associated with positive emotions.
>>39407353My favorite idols are symbols of subservience to a female deity that takes the form of powerful attractive dancers (idols) my idols are not all kpop stars but I tend to save the kpop discussion for 4chan.Some of my favorite idols:MinnieMiyeonYejiLisaJennieKazuhaChaewon
>>39407403Im very bisexual. Women are my preference in every way. I have an active cis het normative sex/dating life and feel very strong emotional and romantic attraction to women whereas I feel nothing toward men.
Interesting.What's the other side called? Like a man who wants to break another man and turn him into a female fucktoy for himself?
>>39407414Fetishes are not that simple though, typically an inversion of common morality and identity is necessary to experience arousal. It can be simple as just anunexpected scenario acting as a powerful psychological stimulus. Think of your basic BDSM fetish. Or even just ordinary sexual roles of "dominant" and "submissive" and the problems they contain.
>>39407451GAMP i would presume.
>>39407456For me, AGP is simple: women are hot and it's hot to be a woman.
>>39407249i want that outfit.
>>39407451i've been with some men like that. They are fun :)
>>39407352If I didn't find being faggy or trans humiliating I may have already done it by now
>>39407441There seems to be a contradiction here since you say you're "very bisexual" yet you downplay interest in men, deny sexual activity with men and deny the possibility of romantic attraction to men.Whether you're bisexual or anything else, repressed homosexual desires can be extremely powerful. When you begin to un repress those urges and allow yourself to act on them, changes often take place. Personally I consider myself bisexual too but my sexuality and sex life has definitely changed a lot over the past decade and the primary mover was allowing myself to experiment with men and act out certain fantasies.
>>39407451I want to find someone like that to break me in
>>39407486seriously one of u chasers link me a size 8 of it.
>>39407479I don't disagree, yet do you believe this is a philia and not just standard female sexuality? Perhaps there's insecurity over attraction to women as a woman and the sensation that this is an inherently masculine trait?
MEF sisters, I really wanna listen to bambi sl*** hypno again, but the files condition you to become addicted to them and to being Bambi, but I want to keep it an spare time thing and not a total lifestyle change :(What do I do???
>>39407451Literally me for some reasonI'm a really laid back and easy going guy but thinking about dominating some cute sissy and breaking them in so hard that they wanna be my woman and have my seed swimming around inside of them just makes me crazy horny
>>39407528If you think it's standard women secuality, do women find that being a woman is hot and other women hot, too?
>>39407596Omgg daddd...Girls like us are so fkin blessed to have ppl like you in the world. Pinnacle of gods creationThx for being based<3
>>39407608For the most part, yes they do. There is of course repression of female sexuality and variation in female sexual orientation, but for the most part women are prone to bisexual thoughts toward other women and this is why the phenomenon of zoomer bisexuals who aren't "real" bisexuals exist. Predominantly straight women will often experience both AAP arousal (yearning for gay men, wanting to be a gay man) and will also experience some level of heterosexual attraction, i.e. they are aware of why another woman is attractive to men and would be interested in her if they were a man themselves. Gen Z feels more willing to be open about these thoughts and recognize the implicit sexuality.Prescribed socially enforced roles play a part in most people's psychosexual makeup too-- when these roles work with the underlying neurobiology the results are usually fun. I do believe that's part of the allure of most coercive sexual fantasies like forcefem, orientation play, and MEF
>>39407679It's hard for me to see that. I'd be aroused when dressing as a woman (not even in some sexy clothes), I don't think this happens to women.
>>39407314>>39407342I don't agreeI like emasculation and humiliation because of my experience of being transI don't see women as lesser at all. I'm lesser because I'm a stupid faggot on estrogen, which has nothing to do with womenI also don't think mef is really a subset of agp, and I don't think I have agp. Agp is specifically autosexual to the point where even if you're having sex with a man he's just a vehicle for you to see yourself as a woman. Mef can be autosexual, but emasculation/degradation/humiliation fetishes are definitely not predominantly autosexual and are all things you can do healthily with a partner that doesn't require you to be using them as a prop for your self-image. With agp, sexual interactions are a means to engage in autosexuality, but with mef interactions are the goal.
>>39407831I am in full agreement with the separation of MEF from AGP. Yeah, AGP seems to be way more autosexual.
>>39407596did you know semen has a bunch of hormones like oxytocin in it which causes pair bonding and warm and fuzzy feelings and reduces depression and stuffjust be careful cumming in cute sissies because if you do that while breaking them they'll probably become hopelessly attached to you
>>39407497>yet you downplay interest in men, deny sexual activity with men and deny the possibility of romantic attraction to men.you're putting words in my mouth. I dont and never did deny sexual activity with men. I can only go by my experience and that is that I never have had the slighest emotional or romantic attraction to men despite having every opportunity to do so with minimal familial/societal baggage. never even had a crush of a guy...what am I suposed to make of that? I am attracted to men's ability to make me feel feminine...
>>39407702It does, but over time (years) repeated exposure can temper this feeling so that the sexual aspect reduces and becomes suffered into a stable gendered identity.Haven't you ever had a cis female tell you about how embarrassed she was to wear short shorts, arm bearing tops, female bathing suits, or anything low cut as a kid?
>>39407869**Suffused not suffered
>>39407536I was listening every day for a couple of weeks just to see what it was like, and by like 2 weeks in I was going so deep into trance every time that I'd wake up with very fuzzy memories of the last hour or two at bestI stopped doing it because it was taking up a lot of time and I had other stuff to do, but even then I really missed doing it for a while, I just love the sound of the voice for some reason. the other reason I stopped was because it felt dumb to be doing it every day if I didn't have a bf. anyway if I were you I'd just practice with the beginner and intermediate playlists that teach you the triggers and reinforce conditioning and stuff, but avoid the ones that promote harder addiction and personality control
>>39407249waaay before 2010 lmao
>>39407888Genuinely curious if you have the sources for when and how the term originated? And when did it go from a bland term used to refer to a fetish by outsiders to an identity term that started to appear in gay/sissy fetish posts?
>>39407854I love that idea even more when we're talking about cumming in sissies, like my hot masculine energy is overpowering and eradicating their maleness from the inside out, hijacking their brains and making them in to my obedient sluts
>>39407869Are you implying that embarassing equals arousing and it's common for women to be aroused by their clothes?
>>39407925This is why I always absorb my boyfriend's cum for at least 2 hours after sex. I love lying there with him holding me, rubbing my tummy and stroking my hair, practically purring as I feel the relaxin and oxytocin absorb across my mucus membrane. I love feeling completely owned by him, the feeling of love and completeness is unparalleled. It's those times when I truly love being a straight MtF and grateful to exist.
>>39407903 i networked through the bdsm scene and mainly operated out of collarme and that opened up alot and i got to live that way sometimes
what are some realistic emasculating jobs i could get that would feminize me over time
>>39407939Embarrassing can be an indicator of repressed or unwanted sexual thoughts but it is not necessarily so.Women are not generally "aroused by their clothes" however women's clothing is more expressly sexual and expressing sexuality through ones appearance and dress is a more prominent part of the female gender. Consider all the low cut tops, hip and ass hugging jeans, short skirts and hosiery, high heeled shoes that are part of women's standard clothing. These clothes accentuate and display physical traits. (They would do so if men wore them too and in many cases they were even created for men centuries ago)Even simple women's jeans have far more sexual aesthetic design. Consider the way they are often pre faded or pre ripped, how much tighter they cling to certain areas, and how you can choose ankle length, boot length, Capri length, waders, or thigh bearing short shorts.When women are trying on outfits and deciding what looks and feels cute, they are in most cases expressing sexuality in many cases experiencing some degree of low level sexual arousal. Of course there are no absolutes when it comes to feelings and experiences that are all degrees on a graduated spectrum. There are stone butch lesbians who dress like men, specifically to repel male attention and attract femmes and there are hyperfeminine AGP women who dress to arouse men and get off on doing so.
>>39407925just make sure you're kind to them after, the rush of chemically induced emotion and neediness can be so overwhelmingmake sure to hold them tight and cuddle after sex, so that the effects of the hormones in their brain is fully conditioned and locked in
>>39407999post pape
>>39407436Bad take.
>>39408002I guess this is true, but even if we did equate AGP to standard female sexuality, why would I be experiecing it as a male?
>>39408030Who are your faves then bestie? I am always looking to switch my stan allegiance to a new group.
>>39408049IsaSieunNayeonJihyoChuuEunbiYenaYujinReiYunjinIrene
>>39408067Hard agree on irene I knew i was forgetting one
>>39407903i was answering the qott
>>39407949Good girl
>>39407878I knowww like it feels so good? So, you just... stopped? Gj! Are you mtf or just m?Thx for the advice, but honestly I think even the basic files are super risky because they errode your control and make you want to get more and moerr programmed
>>39408164Just give in. You weren't good at being a man anyway. Just give Bambi the keys and let her feminize you into the perfect cockwhore. You'll be happier that way, when you're on your knees looking up at a real man's rock hard erection and learning what it means to be completely defeated and emasculated.
>>39408205I would love to so badddd ... but theres more to life than just being a useless bimbo yk? :c
>>39408164I'm mtfbut yeah being programmed feels so good. Just laying in bed with my mind blank and hearing the words echoing in my head and not even being conscious enough to understand the words, but just listening and obeying and accepting without thinking about it is one of the best feelings in the world. It's such a relief from the constant inner thoughts to instead have someone else's thoughts in your head and just be able to take a back seat and totally shut off while the voice teaches your subconscious, but it makes me feel too lonely when I wake up after and I want to sink back in and I want a man to actually get some use out of what I'm doing to myself, but I don't have a bf so I'll keep waiting.
>>39407925None of the people who are into that pass. None of the people you are talking too pass. It's all middle aged Indians LARPing.
>>39408281sad trvke unfortunately
>>39408233Bambi sleep is not going to interfere with any aspect of your personal and professional life and in fact conditioning and optimizing your sexuality will probably improve it.You have to let go of the fear and misogyny to make progress. Just do what you crave and trust yourself to figure it out, for sexual exploration it's a principle that works great.I guarantee you you won't go as deep into the rabbit hole than I did, and I turned out fine. The hypno acts in your subconscious it doesn't remove your ability to socialize or respond to social cues or act appropriately in public
>>39408301>I guarantee you you won't go as deep into the rabbit hole than I didhow deep?
>>39408281... like I said, I like sissies.
>>39408281>>39408299Actually many who are committed to this fetish pass quite well, there's a divide between the reppers/manmoders who are experiencing it in their imagination and the transitioned MtFs who are just honestly sharing what's going through our minds.I could never post face in this thread to prove I pass since it's fucking scandalous and highly taboo in the trans community, mainly due to the perceived misogyny and bad optics.>>39408301
>>39408318It must be a thousand times better to experience it as a passing MtF.
>>39408281for me it isnt even about passing. I never try to pass, i never even fully crossdress- only lingerie, never shave my legs ( but always thigh highs. I will shave my ass on request lol) zero to very little make up. its helps that im small with a babyface but if I had to try much harder I doubt I would do it. but I dont give off the pretense that I am trying to be a woman more like just a feminized boi if that makes sense? Guys dont seem to mind lol
>>39408318being a non passing but hot troon means you need MEF even more
>>39408239Yeaaa I feel taht :sob:I had a e-daddy who kept training me via the internet but that honestly just made me sad bc I wanted to suck his dick soo baaaad>>39408301Girl, I wanna believe you but I just canttt
>>39407249med are you in this thread?
i don't feel good if i go too many days without crossdressing
>>39408318I've always hated how this kinda stuff seems to be primarily associated with like 50 year old fat balding boomers. It's insanely hot thinking about a cute tranny that passes but likes the whole emasculation/failed male/sissy angle in bed
>>39408483That's all of them. Even the transbians like this shit "as a fetish" and many of them incorporate bottoming for men into an open or poly relationship.
>>39408018whats that
>>39408555post that wallpaper
>>39408384I need to actually get motivated to put effort into makeup and not just do the basics. I just don't get how to develop the focus needed to do this in a practical length of time. Hoping practice helps but the progress is slow, adhd doesn't help.I don't even know how I feel about the label of passing. Like i physically pass but I still have anxiety and low self esteem of being a tranny and feel like everyone is clocking me. Girls I have met who do pass talk about like having an "all straight all cis f friend group" who don't suspect anything, and where they then get the privilege of going along with other people's transphobia where they don't suspect anything.What fucks with me is: is it possible to separate passing from political, social, and religious conformity? Like I can't imagine not wanting to have queer friends, or not be vocal about my beliefs, most of which are liberal. Like I kind of envy passing youngshits who are openly trans and stand up for trans rights but then those people have to face transphobia and people falsely claiming that they don't pass or were groomed, i.e. they aren't stealth.Tl;dr stealth is such a mindfuck to think about
>>39407263im not straight, im like kinsey 4-5 in relation to my birthsex.
>>39408598SHEESH lemme look it up
any MEF reppers on estrogen here? I'm on my second concurrent and final week. just injected earlier. the last time I swear
>>39408759Nah, but I wanna shoot up something else>>39407999Work at the stables. Litchurlly only horse girlies there who will automatically assume youre gay
>>39407249it this just agpgen 2?
It's boring and gay like all of bdsm. Let me use gay as an insult calm down.
>>39408759low doser who stopped here
>>39408744terrible res
>>39408976yeah its hard to find joints these days for desktop zoomers just use mobile
>>39408877AGP is stale and played out and most MEF threads around here are just ironic shitposting.We need a dedicated general to delve into the complex and fantastic depths of MEF/AGAMP fantasy and hopefully unlock the MEF singularity: fetishistic arousal so potent that even passoid girls get irresistibly dragged into transsexual fantasy
>>39409037woosta mass has all mef singularity you need.that is woosta. woosta mass.w.o.r.c.e.s.t.e.r woosta mass
>>39409037ok in that case>qottaround 16-17 when i realized i had been self inserting as the women in porn for years already at that point
>>39408611being stealth seems based af since i wanna be part of the ingroup with the women stuff sometimes but the fact that i've been a weirdo all life means that i wouldn't like that i'd rather be the really pretty boy who's accepted as a girl or something i was an early onset agp maybe i have a chance at pseudo hsts lol jk
>>39408759I have considered it, but I never committed
>>3940875927's not that old. I'm glad you're on estrogen sis I hope you figure out your transition soon
>>39407314Well I can’t magically transform into a girl now can I ?
>>39410354unironically if youre a big enough faggot you can
>>39410374I mean u can be a weird art project that bonemolds you into a vaguely female form. Not really a girl though, seems like a lot of work too.
if the kpop sissy nail tech is a gigapassoid im going to end it
>>39407249>when and how did you realize your identity as a man was irrevocably broken, and there was no going back?Its not broken enough yet I havent tried men yet uwuBut I cant stop thinking about being castrated and humiliated...
>>39411131Have you masturbated anally and learned how to prep? that's pretty much all you need to give dick riding a spin, definitely don't need to do all the sissy outfit shit because bottoming for a man is the most degrading and ego annihilating experience you can have as a (soon to be former) man
>>39407868This is normal, you are hisexual but prefer women probably due to testosterone and social conditioning. If you took estrogen and kept having sex with men the fuzzy romantic feelings would probably develop pretty quickly and build over time, while the romantic feelings about women might start to fade, particularly as it becomes less plausible for you to attract a normal woman.
>>39407249Why are black men so much more masculine than whitebois?
>>39411638what if you refuse you bottom without presenting female and feel more comfortable and yourself bottoming is that not mef enough
>>39411638>Have you masturbated anally and learned how to prep? Kinda yes...not great at it but yeah...>because bottoming for a man is the most degrading and ego annihilating experience you can haveYes I figured this would be the case... its kinda why I wanna try it.. Im not attracted to men at all... but thats kinda what makes it hot...
>>39412442Just think, how many gay people forced themselves to try straight sex just to rule it out. How hard can it be to let a guy put his penis in your butt just once?
>>39408067>>39407436i feel like sunmi is peak succubus worthy of emulating
Sissifying a male is a task of such extreme complexity that I doubt it can be done. The reason is:>men prefer adventure and adrenaline over relaxation, socialization and beauty>men prefer the truth, you won't see a man wearing makeup, while women are the masters of illusion, appearances and seduction.While you can emasculate a man, it seems impossible to get them to actively be feminine and enjoy feminine things. Like a man will never play and enjoy The Sims for example, or get excited over decoration or buying the perfect outfit. It's like a foreign alien language to them.
>>39412498Western men really don't stand a chance...
>>39412517>sissification blackpill doomer
>>39412517sissies don't live up to ideals of masculinity you know most of them are shy and sensitive
>>39412546its just the result of my resarch
>>39412517It's definitely true that you can't sissify any man or perhaps even most men, especially not mentally healthy men with active rewarding social lives. But with the right mix of incentives and coercion, a depressed loser with nothing to lose can go from an apathetic low effort failure to a fastidiously groomed and well manicured sissy bitch, and they can learn to truly love serving and caring for men. The trick is to create a feedback loop that begins to supplant the pre existing defective reward mechanisms that defined their life. For a surprising amount of disaffected young men this is possible, although they need to have some level of pre existent faggyness to be ripe for it.
>>39412549im just a masculine dude with a feminization fetish
>>39412598It's just kind of hard to me to grasp that a genuine man can have this fetish but not have the potential to go "all the way" with it so to speak. I believe a key point is to reduce or eliminate the refractory period which then allows the "male" to spend longer amounts of time in the low level arousal state. Or potentially this is just steamy fantasy and you do in fact require dysphoria to drive you to transition.
>>39412638now im somewhat estrogenized so my sex drive is dead but this is what im typically into
>>39412641So you're claiming to be a masculine dude who just has a feminization fetish but you're also estrogenized and your sexuality is dead but you're in a MEF thread sharing feminization erotica. Are you sure you're not in a week bit of denial?
i think i'm mef only out of repression
>>39412665>life goes wrong>focus on my degenerate sexuality only because i have nothing else to do>spend so much time on 4chan i got nothing else todo>start to luck ugly as fuck so take hrt here and there>turn 30 and sexuality dies>just latch onto it like a ghost out of habit
>>39412725seems like you havent fulfilled your potential as a person, you should see a therapist on the best way to move forward, if your just 30 theres still time left but you gotta grind irl stuff
Is there any better feeling than making your bottom wear panties?
>>39412725You have to try to focus on the positives, you need to be in a good calm state of mind to properly enjoy sex. I started hrt pretty late so I know how it goes. Conditioning yourself to despair is good though, once you get fully resolved on who you are there's nowhere to go but up.30 is a great age to try on a new perspective but you might need to be ready to embrace some truly radical thoughts and set new rules for yourself that you're not used to.
https://old.reddit.com/r/AGAMPMEF/comments/1d6ssx3/do_you_want_to_be_lowstatus/
>>39412894My drive to be feminine was based on my high libido. It reached crazy highs at times. I would lay in bed at nights thinking of like 20 things I could do to feminize myself. But that was when I was like 22. Now it’s different you get older and your wants are much weaker. Sucks to have lost that coomer mindset I suppose.
>>39413028Mine decreased somewhat on E but it still goes pretty hard. I could have sex every other day I think, and I sometimes masturbate 2 or 3 times on the weekend mornings.I don't know you but 30 isn't really that old, perhaps depression is artificially dragging down your libido? I feel like if you were high at 22 you should still be fairly high. But again I transitioned later so I kind of see a lot of things as better than I expected right now. Maybe that will change later on when age starts to catch up with me.
>>39413089I am close to 30 and my libido is as strong as ever. I get insane horny waves.
>>39413089Could be depression or simply not leaving the house. Haven’t left the house or met anyone my age in 6 months
I’ve been doing a lot of self discovery with my sexuality. Honestly I thought that deep down I was just a pervert with MEF, but I transitioned anyway to spite my parents. Now it’s been 7 years (I’m 25) I would define myself as more of just a regular submissive is a BDSM sense. I’m still partial to MEF stuff in theory cause the idea is hot, but in practice almost none of it is geared to a “normal” mtf that no longer feels disgusting to be a women. If that makes sense?? Like I was hooking up with one of my friends and we were talking about me pre transition. He was like “oh I’m so glad you transitioned there’s no way you could’ve made it as a man” and like it’s hot but I don’t think it’s degrading to be a women. Anyway I gave him head after saying that and he kept talking about how I’m more helpful now on my knees and other stuff that makes me think he has more of a fetish.
>>39412725>>39414114don't you get 'reverse' dysphoria
>>39414114>there’s no way you could’ve made it as a manThis is not necessarily humiliation, but can work as validation that you are not a man and are supposed to be a woman (which you want). I am just AGP, not MEF and can see the appeal.
>>39414126whxylup was the only one putting out good MEF captions and now her tumblr is gone and there's few if any putting effort into MEF captions. I wish I could go back
>>39414132didnt mean to reply to that anon
>>39414132>her
>>39414146I am intentionally playing into their fetish.
>>39414119No not really. Sometimes I see a really hot guy and I’m like ? Oh yea I guess I could’ve done that instead, but I also wasn’t really dealt the best cards for that. I do miss some things though but it doesn’t really matter compared to how “right” transitioning feels. I do feel like the social pressures for guys is way less but as I struggle to actually boymode I can’t really benefit from that. >>39414126Yea I just talked about what he said cause it happened recently. But yea I feel like a lot of MEF stuff makes you feel degraded for being a women which worked for me before I transitioned but now at this point it doesn’t resonate.
>>39414207I really struggle with the concept that "being a woman" is degrading. Obviously this makes some sense in countries where women have less rights and are more at the mercy of men. But how do people living in the west arrive to that conclusion? I am a shy neurotic nerd, I am not especially physically strong, I don't fit many stereotypical norms of masculinity and it's hard to relate to straight men's sexuality because I am not dominant. How is becoming a woman supposed to "downgrade" me?
my mef is very hyperspecific and nobody else has it
Why do MEFers transition? Also recommend MEF artists/writers
>>39414351Tell us about it!
>>39407831>>39407850I am AGP and MEF and I do think it's a bit different as well.I am turned on by myself dressed as a woman.I also like being degraded and submissive.But I don't view women as inferior (I am in a femdom relationship with my cis gf) and I like dressing up because it looks nice and turns me on, my gf on, and other men on.The emasculation is a turn-on in parallel to the feminization aspect.
>>39414396i want mef femdom pov content
>>39414859I want maledom mef content.
>>39414889i just self insert into regular porn for that lol
>>39414965How does it feel to wear those
>>39414991hot but in a subtle way and mostly that you should get to wear them everyday its not fair etc
>>39414396i had early onset gid i got mef much later
>>39415078>that you should get to wear them everydaySo addicting
>>39414396>Why do MEFers transition?Some do, some don't. I'm not transitioning.
>>39415114>i'm not transitioningbut you do admit it would be really hot tho
>>39415457>you do admit it would be really hot thoWhat exactly makes it hot?
>>39415601something something failed male being defeated by femininity how embarrassing something something
>>39415609I feel like failed male, honestly. Never succesful with women, envious of women, submissive... like it never began.
>>39414889does that even exist?>>39414965same lol
As a brown sissy, all I want is to be owned by a white dom :(
>>39414256I'm really into MEF but I in no way feel like being a woman is degrading. It's just about tearing down and mocking the idea that I could ever be masculine in the most aggressive way possible, and as >>39414126 points out it is affirming as my female gendered self despite appearing shocking or negative to outsiders.
>>39414396In my case it was:>being with cis women made me realize I could never love a woman as a man>repping became miserable and pointless>there truly was no remaining option
>>39416696Understandable. I was talking who consider it the ultimate degrading thing to happen to a man.
>>39414965So cute and pretty... are you sure you don't want to take estrogen and get to wear that stuff whenever you want? I love wearing pantyhose to work
>>39416757>I love wearing pantyhose to workAnd all that's needed is some estrogen? Tell me more.
>>39416778Well i started transitioning at 30. Didn't expect to get far. I man moder at work for the first five months. People started to notice some things maybe. I came out and legally changed my name. But I kept dressing conservatively/androgynously. It took over a year for my hair to get long enough and to start reliably passing. I went on an international trip and got called "she" by everyone and I built confidence. So I started dressing more femme at the office and in general I usually wear panty hose with a knee length black skirt but the skirt will ride up a bit when wearing it, and a cute blouse that I tuck in. I will admit, the thoughts of being sissified and submissive have fallen off a lot because as >>39414114 discusses MEF thoughts naturally kind of wear off the more you see yourself ss actually a woman. Even explicitly sexual things that would have been strongly MEF before just become everyday aspects of living as a woman.
>>39416895What a happy ending. I am not that far from 30, is it possible to make it?
I wanna be a sissy but the feminization isn't the degrading part for me. I respect women too much for that.But I want to do extremely degrading stuff to please a man while dressed up slutty.
>>39407249>when and how did you realize your identity as a man was irrevocably broken?For me it was a few weeks after my orchiectomy. I met up with a FWB and I bottomed for him. While he was hitting it from behind ahdn holding my arms behind my back (he was really strong) I suddenly felt this deep primal panic that my balls were gone, and that I would never again be strong enough to even think about breaking his grip (which wouldn't have happened as a man either desu). Strangely, the panic made my asshole dilate and spasm and my back went into a deep arch, it felt like my body was trying to draw the semen out of him. Each time he trusted deep into me and touched my prostate I could feel something happening in my brain--it was rapidly learning to associate this terrifying feeling with pleasure. J realized my body was responding like a conquered women being mated with as has happened throughout human history-- the only recourse is to make do with an unthinkable situation so that you can be part of creating the future. At that point, my thoughts were interruoted by a resounding crack as he smacked my ass, and a delicate high pitched whimper escaped me. Before I could stop myself i begged for more, which he liked. And it was at that moment I knew, my future as a man along with my bloodline has been erased for good.
>>39417043hot asl
>>39416941If you're fully resolved and comitted then yes it can be. Early transition sucks so you need to have dedication. Often it means surgery and other investments. I would only do it if you feel like you've been repressing or engaging in half measures for a long time and are ready to risk everything for the dream. I'm not trying to sound melodramatic or delusional here, but you need that level of commitment because transitioning as an adult can be hard and scary.
>>39417080Yeah, I see. Well, the thing is, that I feel I have no real future as a straight man. You could put a willing 10/10 woman into my bed and I would still just wish I was her instead of wanting to go balls deep into her. It gets really lonely after a while, constantly fantasizing about life on the other side, hating what I see in the mirror. If only I was her, maybe there would be some happiness.
>>39411714>social conditioningnah. i've been enamored with women for as long as I can remember...have always been extremely attracted to them>less plausible for you to attract a normal woman.that sounds terrible. I would never want to not be attractive to women. I get off on being attractive to women and pleasing them with my chadlet body.
>>39407249>when and how did you realize your identity as a man was irrevocably broken, and there was no going back?I think around puberty when I started to watch porn, but gradually I started to imagine myself as the woman in the videos. Although I am majority in a cis-hetero mindset, I still can not get aroused if I fantasize about having sex with a woman.I already knew about Omegle, so I started to roleplay with men while telling them I was a woman in my 20s. Then, I read this erotic story on a random forum about a guy talking about cross-dressing, which led me to find sissy content.So, this time, I started to put "sissy" in my Omegle interests. I was 18 or 19 and a British guy in his 50s wanted to voice chat with me on Skype. He was extremely mean, dominant but caring. He told me that after this chat, I'll never be a real man and he made me repeat it over and over. We both came and he blocked my account. I guess that was when I was mentally "broken"
>>39417193Have you been in an LTR with a woman living together where she expects total commitment though? I think that's whatt separates the real men from the fags ime.
>>39417260>Have you been in an LTR with a woman living together where she expects total commitment though?Yes. multiple. Currenlty engaged and living with her. She knows all about my predilictions. Even if I was a women id be a lesbian lol
Idk what I am>dreams of being a girl since I was a kid>used to get excited(not in a sexual way) when people mistook me for a girl>stole my mom and sisters clothes and masturbated while wearing them>have never really thought "girls are hot and I want to be hot">had a preference for guys up until very recently where I've been giving dating trans and cis women a try>have never crossdressed while having sex>was actually a virgin until I was 26 because sex makes me nervous>told I was a very good looking guy and am still told I'm good looking but in a more androgynous way now29 years old mtf been on hrt for awhile now. I've never really understood agp, mef, hsts and where I fit into it
>>39417459Well then Godspeed. My ex GF would have loved to have something like that with me. I don't know why but it is completely alien to me. Like when people ask me why couldn't cope with just "occasional crossdressing" i struggle to explain that I just can't abide having just a little bit of feminization in my life. Even the feeling of shaving my legs when I wasn't used to it and the way the hair would grow back so quickly would cause extreme depression. I need to look and feel like a woman at all times and remove every shred of possibility that I could ever be seen as a male who could be in a heterosexual relationship. Now that I've achieved that I've been able to get on with my life in a way i am finally satisfied with.
>>39417600>>stole my mom and sisters clothes and masturbated while wearing them>>have never really thought "girls are hot and I want to be hot"Doesn't compute
>>39417667I masturbated all the time just sometimes I happened to be wearing the clothes, I'll admit I thought the clothes were very cute and soft and felt nice on my skin
>>39417696Well, because girls wear them, you felt like a girl in them and being a girl is hot.
>>39417600I diagnosed you with being an incurable sweet innocent and loveable woman who can do even the most egregious AGP behavior and not see it as perverted at all. Seems wholesome af
>>39417707But I didn't feel like a girl wearing them I felt like a boy playing dress up, and I don't think girls are like any more attractive than guys. I don't feel like it's hot to be a girl it just feels kinda idk normal to me?>>39417716I feel like we're all focusing too much on the masturbating, I masturbated a lot ok it's just sometimes I had girl clothes on
>>39417716Ty for calling me sweet and loveable tho c:
>>39417757If it was just an innocent dress-up, you wouldn't be masturbarting, would you? Come on, we all did it for a reason.
>>39417794But I was always masturbating
>>39417757In all seriousness I think the main thing with you is you were primarily attracted to men from the outset, i.e. you were closer to identifying as a gay male pre transition than a straight male (assuming you even cared about your identity as a male at all) in other words you are what they call "hsts" I think most people in this demographic don't really get the AGP/MEF duff as naturally because a lot of these fetish concepts, particularly MEF, involve rationalizing or negating ones attraction to women, in my case I wanted my feeling s about girls to be less sexual and I wanted my feelings toward men to be more romantic. I guess you could say exploring this fetish was a way to re start my dating life as a girl who dated guys, as I felt it more strongly when i was early transition and looked more like a guy.
>>39417641for me it was always the women...my lust for them has always been the driving force in my life and my expression of agp has always felt like a way to get some feminity in my life but I was never under any delusion that it was better than the real thing. I guess I just want to get into panties one way or another lol.
>>39417831I mean to an extent I cared about my identity, I was never this hypermasc manly man but I did try to be a man my dad would be proud of....even tho he wasn't ok with me being gay. Being bi is a recent development, I went through most of my life as a gay man and ironically only started considering bi after the ftm I was dating detransitioned. I guess if I had a preference for girls it'd be other trans girls tho, I like the androgynous beauty
nothing is more emasculating than a male with boobs
>>39418275I am a fat dude with man boobs and I did NOT need to read this today
>>39417043Damn ngl this is one of the hottest posts I read from this board...I wanna be castrated so bad ;-;
>>39417043I want to bend you over and slap the head of my cock against your empty sack like I'm crushing the shattered fragments of your masculinity with my manhood. I'd be consumed by an overwhelming urge of sexual conquest seeing you there all dolled up and presenting your ass to me like a bitch in heat. The limp symbol of your surrendered maleness is tucked submissively between your legs, nothing but a useless decoration at this point, dripping preemptively in anticipation of the imminent dominance hierarchy-cementing ass pounding. I'd feel you shudder as I smack your twitching failed male hole with my throbbing cock, making you melt as you feel the contrast between it and your vestigial, cute appendage that nobody would dream of calling a penis ever again. You let out a girly whimper as I pin you down aggressively and rub the full length of my erection against your clit before penetrating your eager hole. With every prostate pounding thrust you can feel your identity as a male being irrevocably erased as you're left with no other option but to succumb to female pleasure like the conquered sissy concubine that you are. My balls smack dominantly against the place where yours used to be, reminding you of everything that you're not and the fact the the only sperm and testosterone is your body from now on is what I'm fucking in to you. My cock becomes your world, like its penetrating your mind itself and forcing you in to a sort of trance of pure primal cocklust. You shiver uncontrollably as your impotent girljuice dribbles uselessly on to the ground, and your mind goes blank as you lose yourself in the otherworldly ecstasy of total submission. I grab you by the throat and tell you you're my woman as a torrent of my white hot sperm floods your insides like a conquering army until it spills out of your hole and engulfs your defeated clit.
>>39419052Ask your GP for a referral, say it's because you have dysphoria. It's not an expensive surgery and i was really happy with mine personally.
>>39419893Oh sry but Im not even a tranny Im just a twinkish guy with mef...
>>39419887Omg trying to read this in the car without my bf seeing omg I'm turning red
>>39413014I relate to this to stome extent but only because I feel like our system places so much emphasis on pursuing status and money and seeking career advancement that picking a social role that allows you to stop pursuing what society wants and focus on your own enjoyment of life
>>39416757i really want to! pls sign my petition so government will allow me to take estrogen and wear pretty things
>>39412638The limiting factors is shame. The more vulnerable someone is to social shame and humiliation the less likely theyll trans. This is why autist do it because they dont care at all what others think of them
>>39412638I have this fetish. I'm still a guy. I just think it's hot to dress up and get fucked. I'm not dysphoric and I like being a man normally, and being a girl day-to-day would remove the contrast.Also I have always been multi-orgasmic so I don't really lose my arousal, I'm pretty much horny all the time.
>>39423092pull the thong out yo bussy playa
>>39422970This is often repeated on 4chan but I don't think it's true, I know many manmoders who are extremely autistic but can't present feminine, even growing their hair out a little bit or wearing slightly more feminine clothing, they panic about being seen as faggy or trans. I don't think autism gives you the ability to trans like some people claim. I think the key factor is support and affirmation of parents, friends, and the workplace.
>>39422970>>39423153i think the more supportive your society is the less shame you feel autists also feel shame
>>39421857whats the coincidence of mef with low self esteem
>>39423387Personally I feel like you need to have a certain baseline lebel of self worth and finding yourself attractive to feel you're worth emasculating. It's also important to note that if you're misandrist and kinky MEF is just affirming.
>>39407249Why do trans women like BNWO so much? Do you really hate us whitebois?
>>39424610>Do you really hate us whitebois?no, see >>39416158
>>39424709That’s very clearly some chud larping though
>>39424715No, I wrote that post and I am from the Middle East.White men are much more attractive than blacks, you fell for the "le BBC" meme
not gonna lie im not even sure if im actually mef
>>39423100lol wut
>>39424606>finding yourself attractive to feel you're worth emasculatingwhat if it's more like you're part of a worthy group like men and you're falling from the standards of this group a lot of people derive their worth from their group
why arent u following this brothers
>>39426447Transitioning is a lot of work + money + time and for a MEF enjoyer it's not worth it.
>>39424807bbc isn't about being conventionally attractive it's about seeming brutal, wild and non-human
>>39426447we already do thisnever heard of stages of sissy?
>>39426452That sounds disgusting, I want a handsome, caring, and sweet dom.
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>>39423153Yeah that's basically what I said. Because for me the only limiting factors exactly what you said shame from family friends coworkers etc.
>>39426918>shame from family friends coworkers etc.I have always been jealous of the autists who don't give a fuck and get to be as cringe as they want with no regrets. I am the opposite, I care too much about fitting in and I overthink everything.
>>39426940Right? Got a fucking hate being normal
>>39426940>>39427912That's where MEF comes though. Hit the shame head first and convert it into sexual arousal and empowerment
>>39430160These japanese sissification comics are so kino
