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Yoshikage Kira edition
>QOTT: Do you hate women? If so, why?

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>>41467682
take your HRT, retards
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>>41467686
my measurements are too shitty for that.
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>>41467713
too bad do it anyway
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I want to be a hot anime girl
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>>41467682
>QOTT
no, but I avoid being around them whenever possible because the inherent difference between us causes me immense despair
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What about not taking hrt, but, instead, letting yourself act much more feminine, and engage in all the feminine behaviors and pursuits you imagine you would if you were socially female?
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I WISH I WAS A WOMAN
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hrt is a meme
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>>41467757
cringe
>>41467773
cringe
>>41467775
based
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>>41467773
you can do that too, or you can do that while taking hrt, or you can not do that while taking hrt
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>>41467757
based
>>41467773
cringe
>>41467775
based
>>41467793
cringe
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>>41467773
I don't want to be feminine I want to be female
baka gincel
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>genie turns you into a cis woman
>but now you’re the ugliest woman in the world, even uglier than you looked as a man
>any attempt at plastic surgery ends up making you even uglier
Is it worth it?
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qott. no.
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>>41467882
that would kinda suck but yeah
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>>41467773
I don't want to necessarily act any different; I just want to operate on female hardware, so to speak.
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>>41467686
i did today but i'm not sure how to feel about it

>>41467757
we all do
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>>41468500
grats anon
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I dont want be feminene man i dont want b tranny i dont want to be ugly 3dpd foid i want to be hot anime girl
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>>41469567
unfathomably based
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this gen is the se convo and cope on repeat jesus
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>>41469636
same convos and copes*
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I want to be hot anime girl I want to be hot anime girl I want to be hot anime I want to be hot anime girl
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>>41469927
you will never be one so stfu gooner loser
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>>41467773
Might help some, probably won't help most. AGPs aren't naturally feminine and if they pretend like they are its horribly transparent and ghey
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>>41470142
>AGPs aren't naturally feminine and if they pretend like they are its horribly transparent and ghey
wow almost like homosexuality is exclusively genetic and a form of intersexual feminization
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i have 3dpd moid dysphoria
i want to be a hot anime girl so fuckingg baddd i dont want to be taking tranny meds i want to leave my moid life behind for a blessed anime girl one NOW
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>>41467686
Hrt will not make me a woman
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>>41467773
socially, how is that possible lol
personally, i do it without even thinking also used to voice practice
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>>41470153
Lol, whatever crusade youre on, let me tell you youre retarded
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something i've been thinking about - how do you guys buy clothes you don't hate? i've got some basic uniqlo shit that works but want to be able to dress a bit nicer so i don't look like a total child all of the time
also why are we replying to effeminate male guy again. get it together team
>>41467682
no, although i can kinda see why being misogynist works as a cope for some. plz don't though
>>41467686
no <3
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>>41442777
>>41464366
literally me
are these threads the basedest on this board right now or what
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>>41467682
no, there's no use in hating women even if they have what i want, hating them isn't going to lead me to getting what they want
>>41467773
i do, but there are some stuff you can't do when you look like a man
>>41467882
yes
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is being annoyed by retarded women male brained or fembrained
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i do not grow as a person
i simply wait to become a hot anime girl
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>>41470973
my self-actualization is on pause until I magically turn into a girl
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>>41470784
malebrained
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>>41470784
Universal
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Anyone else just auto pilot through life? Like I dont care about anything and I do just enough at my job not to get fired. Like I dont even remember what I did a few days ago. I dont care about anything I just drink and work then sleep and maybe play some vidya but thats it.
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>>41467814
>>41468192
you can act in a way feminine as a man bit its not same, there are limits tobit both social and biological. female body facilitates self expression and is obviously so much more pleasing
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>>41471287
I can't even imagine any other way of existing
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>>41471287
Yeah that's part of disassociating. I don't even feel like I'm present anymore half the time.
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>>41471411
>female body facilitates self expression
least sexist tranny
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>>41471469
reality is sexist
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dying or becoming an anime girl which will get to me first
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>>41472645
>or
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>>41472697
I stand corrected my king
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im so bored of everything i want to be dead
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>>41469654
same sex with larry
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>fall for transitioning meme
>need solicitor sign off to change my name - to some stupid tranny shit
>every one I try says "I can't approve of this"
>think uwu transphobia is so tough
>years later I'm a regular cis man
these men and women saved me from so much humiliation holy shit
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I'm so disgusted by trans people that the more I see of trans people and trans culture the more that I know that transition is not right for me. Trans people are horrifying
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i wish i could experience getting fingered by my bf
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No I wont transition. Yes I still watch anime and play porn games at the age of 42. I'm living the best life I can under the circumstances.
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>>41473358
that looks like me in 50 years still playing hentai games
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>>41473368
based have a hug larry
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>>41473382
*hug*
at least he knows japanese to know what is going on there
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I want to be an anime girl and bathe with my anime girlfriend.
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>>41467682
>Do you hate women?
3D women, yes
>If so, why?
They made fun of me in Highschool
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I hate women bc they aren't hot anime girls
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after years of dissociating I feel completely indifferent to my body.
even if I had a chance at passing I don't think I'd care enough to actually go through with it, simply because I've learned to see it only as a useless vessel needed to keep me alive. there are no features I can identify with. whatever I tried to change didn't help with this feeling, so why would I waste money on meds and expensive surgery? maybe I'm faketrans tho idk
>>41467682
no, why would I?
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>>41467686
HRT can’t give me a real vagina, that’s all i want, everything else can be fixed later, our current technology and surgeries just can’t do it, and the worst part is everyone seems to be happy with horrible wounds that don’t look like vaginas at all, so there’s no chance of a future where things get better
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I'd settle for being a cute tranny
Though the one time I dated one I was overwhelmed with dysphoria about not being cis
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It doesn't get better
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>>41471287
Me, except I'm unemployed.
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>>41473596
They are happy because the surgery is good, you're just a bitterhon who fell for chaser propaganda. Enjoy cramming your dong between your butt cheeks, I'll be at the beach in my thong bikini.
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>>41471287
Yeah I basically only live for anime and video games now. Maybe one overseas trip a year where I go to Japan and just walk around for 2 weeks. I don't care about my job, just keep my head down so I can pay rent and then spend every other waking hour playing games, watching anime, reading visual novels, and posting here.
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>>41473665
this but without any hobbies or enjoyable activities at all
I just rot
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i want to be hot anime girl NOW
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I would settle for being a hot furry girl at this point. Preferably something like a bunny. I'd be okay with Kobold too.
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>>41473683
you post so many anime girls, but if you could become one of them permanently, which one would you pick?
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>>41473187
Trve, the best repfuel I've found is interacting with your average tranny.
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>>41467682
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>>41473656
Where did you get it done?
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>>41473890
trannies turning gender dysphoria into an identity and building a "culture" around it, instead of just treating it like an intersex condition, has been a disaster for the tranner race.
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>>41473952
>don't troon out
nooooo, you're retarded!!! troon out pls it will make your life better!

>troon out
kek why did you troon out, you look disgusting, it was obvious you were never going to pass

it's a lose-lose situation.
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>>41474055
How would it be treated differently?
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>>41473358
what kind desk is that
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>>41464175
it's nice that you can have a friendly convo with your mom
mine has been aware of my cding since childhood and again recently and does nothing but make me feel like a pervert or passive aggressively hint at trannydom but in a humiliating way and after that has the gall to ask me why i'm always frustrated and her behavior is getting worse and worse with age now that she has a smartphone to glue to constantly
bitch will meet her maker one of these days from my hands
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>>41474096
90% of cis people that don't like trannies do so because they imagine an ugly dude in his 50's wearing an ill-fitting skirt and thigh-highs in the women's bathroom when they think of a tranny. modern troon culture does not help much when it comes to dispelling this stereotype, in fact, it empowers it by constantly pushing non-conformity, with things like "you don't need hrt to be a woman, hon!", or "women can have dicks, chud". take that and really annoying online trans culture that never knows when to back down, and boom, half of the world dislikes you.
picture a timeline where this shit never existed at all, where all trannies were seen as men/women with brains that do not fit their bodies, and all they want to do is to blend in and look normal. tell a normal person you know you're friends with a woman that grew up being forced to look and act as a man, because her parents wanted a male child. most people will see this as a horrible thing that must've been completely traumatizing.
we were *this* close for them to get that also applies to trannies.
of course this wouldn't cure all transphobia, but if trannies were seen this way and actually got serious treatment early on for it (less hons and more passoids), 90% of it would go away. for better or for worse, it's all about public perception and looks.
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>>41474340
Christards would still shit blood and screech about how its violating jebus's plan, it's not going to be possible to win those people over.
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>>41475014
that's why i said 90% of transphobia would go away, and not all of it. obviously the most conservative would still be seething about it, but much like gay marriage, most people would stop giving a shit and give up eventually.
it doesn't matter that there's a small minority that hates you, what's important is how the public sees you, which will, over time, change society itself. if trannies looked and acted like who they claim to be, most people (the average person with average views who doesn't really care about this) would accept them way more than they are now, because they would think
>hmmm... she looks like a woman, acts like a woman, and the only reason she had a dick was because of an intersex condition... yeah it's probably a woman

you don't need to change the mind of everyone, just the majority. this way, people with adversary views would be seen as non-trustworthy and wouldn't gain as much power (as long as you live in a somewhat democratic place). you don't see people who hail hitler, for example, gain power at all. just look at the elon musk salute thing a while back:
>noooo, it was a friendly gesture...
>hes autistic!!
>you're crazy, that's not what he meant.

it doesn't matter if he actually did it or not, the fact that people do not believe someone they trust could do that implies that if he were to do so, it would not be acceptable, thus making him untrustworthy, thus making him less likely to reach a position of power that can forcefully change society.
society shapes us, and then we shape it, which shapes the future generation, and the loop goes on forever.
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>>41475014
this

>>41474340
you're applying logic to people who do not operate on logic, they hate everything that challenges their tiny world view because uwu change is scawwy, these people would exist no matter what and are simply stupid
also most trans people absolutely do just try to fit in without drawing attention, what you see online is not representative of most of them, look at most not-third-world countries that are not supportive of trans people; trans people 100% exist and live there, it's just that nobody really knows
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>>41475394
>if trannies looked
The issue with that one is that for most people their only shot to pass is to transition young, but that's what causes the psychos to seethe and shit blood the most, since they're invested in that same mindset that kids are property and not people that created conversion camps. So you basically need to create a culture where transphobia is low to be able to create a culture where you can transition at puberty to create a culture where transphobia is low.
>90%
This one is a bit naive though, most Americans ARE Evangelicals, you're going to have a good 40% who hate you regardless, the number of Americans who still hate gays and only publicly say dismissive shit like "as long as I don't see it" while having conniptions if their kid turns out gay is massive.
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>>41475454
it's not that change is scawwy but physiognomy is real and if something looks gaudy theres always something definitely very wrong with it
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>>41467773
>be me
>put on my makeup in the mourning, including putting foundation on my bald head so it all matches
>wear a feminine outfit over my beer gut and hairy body
>oh shit my hairy body
>spend three hours shaving the hair off a massive hairy man body
>good thing I woke up a 4 in the morning so i can do this everyday before owrk
>go to work
>everyone is disgusted and treats you terribly but I get to go home early
>try to talk to customers but they hate me
>go home to wife
>She is so disgusted but she can't leave me because I make all the money at my software job
>stare a wall
>atleast I impressed that guy from that thread that one time
>>41467882
Idk, ugliest woman in the world is pretty bad. Like really bad. Kind of seems like a stupid hypothetical
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>>41474340
No one likes intersex people either. Voters throw a shitfit every time it comes up.

Anyway, some of us just aren't women no matter what. Some people get to be tragic emo twinks with a woman's brain tragically stuck in a cutesy femboy body. Nobody, in any culture, is going to look at me and think 'oh poor baby she's actually a girl!!!' I could play for the All Blacks if I wanted to.
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>>41475724
stop worrying about your appearance
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>>41473265
this is agp as hell but i want this as well
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>>41475724
What counts as a feminine but obviously masculine outfit?
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ive been manmoding for a year and i regret everything
will detransitioning and repping for the rest of my life save me or should i jist kill myself
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>>41467682
I used to be jealous every time I saw a pretty cissoid but now I just hate them for having what I can't have. It's better now because I used to have a crisis every time one of them was a bitch but now I have literally no respect for them.
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>>41475454
>you're applying logic to people who do not operate on logic, they hate everything that challenges their tiny world view because uwu change is scawwy
right, but they still learned these rules on what's ok and what isn't somewhere, right? odds are they grew up in a conservative enviroment where progressivism = le bad and tradition = le good.
but at what point is tradition too much? if people got around with the stopping of the whole race segregation thing the USA had, i'd argue trannies existing and being tolerated should be quite feasible. the results would not come immediately and some people would still be against it, but at least the progressive trend would continue with the future generations, unlike what happened with gen z holding more conservative views than millenials. you need to cook your steak slowly and at a reasonable temperature for it to be tasty, not throw it into the fucking sun. sometimes too much too quickly ruins things, which is what i believe happened here (too woke too fast).

>>41475484
>So you basically need to create a culture where transphobia is low to be able to create a culture where you can transition at puberty to create a culture where transphobia is low.
think of it as gaining momentum. if doctors and medical professionals actually saw gender dysphoria as a valid intersex condition (which is what trannies should be pushing), they'd have even more well-adjusted youngshits, and then they'd get more rights, and then more youngshits, and then more rights... until transphobia decreases a significant amount over a long period of time.
i'll admit i was quite naive on people's openess to ideas, but the bottom line is that slowly building a good foundation is way better than trying to build a skyscraper in a week, if you want things to work out long-term.
anyways ill stop now i know my ramblings get annoying
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>>41475831
if you still see being a man as "repressing" the possibility of womanhood, then you should kill yourself
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>>41475739
>you can be feminine
>But you have to not care about your appearance
>and of course if you don't look a certain way you don't get to act a certain way
>and obviously if you don't get to use your looks/behavior you'll have to work certain jobs that require other things
>of course also if you will have to act certain ways romantically because I mean nobody wants to treat a bald hairy man a certain way
>Just be feminine but change nothing about your appearance, behavior, occupation, social interactions, romantic interactions, habits, appearance etc
>>41475792
men typically wear bulky clothes that accentuate their sexual dimorphic features, broad shoulders, height etc when trying to dress nice women also do this but it's accentuating different features. Women can wear a plurality of different things as well as things like makeup. It's not so much that clothes are inherently feminine or masculine rather it's what women and men can wear without getting shunned or grossing out society.
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>>41475831
A year is nothing, hrt takes several to finish every change but no it's a FFS or death situation at that point. You can't go back
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>>41475955
I'm sorry what do you even mean by this.
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>>41475955
maybe that was the wrong word. there is no possibility for me
my womanhood would be gigahonmoding and looking like a ridiculous caricature
that said do you think sui is the solution or are you just telling me to kms
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>>41475982
i don't believe you
some people fill out immediately and pass within a year and if i was meant to transition then that would be me but its not
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Honestly seeing dooming makes me want to be hopeful instead out of innate contrarianism but then I see my bank account and my total lack of FFS money.
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>>41475989
you see accepting being a man as a state of repression of possible femaleness that you are somehow just ignoring, you are so deluded you are better off dead

>>41476035
I think you view womanhood as an idealized state, and anyone like this should definitely kill themselves
I suggest snorting a lot of darkweb heroin at once
quick, easy, painless
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>>41476051
I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment but no, it's the 3 year mark. Realistically you'll be manmoding for life, though
t.5 year manmoder
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>>41476082
you're probably right
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>>41476102
>reduced muscle
I have a physical job that requires strength
>Lower Libido
I have a wife that I need to sexually please
>breast growth
Impossible to hide and permanent
I just want my hair to be thick and nice, and my skin to look like the twinkhons at the bar dammit
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>>41476082
>if you have gender dysphoria and you don't act on it you should just kill yourself
Womanhood isn't an idealized state I just think i'd be happier as one. It kind of just seems like you are saying "if you think it's possible to transtion into a woman you should just kill yourself"
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>>41475946
>odds are they grew up in a conservative enviroment where progressivism = le bad and tradition = le good.
I completely agree

>at what point is tradition too much?
imho tradition is basically always holding society back outside of arts, holding on to any degree of "the old ways of thinking" will inhibit progress

>gen z holding more conservative views than millenials
gen z (like me) came up in some of the worst societal times
the rise of morons like Tate and all this astrology for men is just filling a void left by the lack of societal direction for boys growing up through a time of one side telling them all masculinity is bad and despicable and ignoring men's issues, while the other side just promised them the world if they danced to their tune, so it's only natural they'd fall towards the right and their bullshit

meanwhile girls are told being objectified is awful while showing them strong independent women making a fortune.. objectifying themselves on onlyfans, while again the right is just giving them an "easy out" through the rise of trad wives who post about how nice it is to live off their husband's income, while themselves earning a fortune through their content, without which they probably wouldn't be able to sustain that lifestyle

gen z just got fucked by the times they grew up through, and alpha will only be worse with the damage covid did
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>>41476277
>wife
bruh why would you do this to yourself
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>>41477069
I love her, and gay men disgust me
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I could never even date anyone as a man, the idea is revolting. How could anyone love that? How could I love anyone as that?
I was volcel until I transitioned then I went right back once I detransed
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Why am I even here? I'm not actually dysphoric, have no femininity, and especially no female identity. I really am just a deluded man
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>don't get to wear cute halloween outfit and attend a party
life as a man is suffering. they had it good when we were drafted to die in trenches in WW2
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>>41473358
tactical mousepad for the non-dominant hand so that you can take control of your business with the dominant hand and switch the mouse to the other side? Man's a genius (of self-destruction)
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>>41477528
yeah they were strong and silent back then who don't need to open up about their feelings but now they've got us to open up and it's dysmorphia this, gender that, dysphoria va fangool
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>>41475946
>>41476616
gtfo of here nobody cares about basedcity or your place in it
leave it to some rotten flesh smelling maggot infested axe wound deranged troon to think hes so clever he can 4d chess his perception in the world
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I just wish I was dead
>ordered hrt again
but nothing will come of it. I'll just be an ugly man with a female's hormonal range and I'll cry about dysphoria instead of sighing
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What board has the most reppers?
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>>41477998
I feel like /a/ and /jp/ posters would just transition so probably /tg/ or /pol/
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>>41470784
Unironically fembrained
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>>41475946
>if people got around with the stopping of the whole race segregation thing the USA had
A very large amount of the American population never did. Modern evangelicalism as a political movement emerged largely in order to maintain tax exempt status while continuing to more or less overtly discriminate on the basis of race.
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>>41479027
Anon there are literally black-run evangelical megachurches run by black millionaire pastors. Segregation in American churches is pretty much entirely self-segregation, they're all choosing to do it, rather than being forced or pressured.
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was anyone else obsessed with post-apocalyptic media growing up? that was my favorite thing for so long. i yearned for a simpler world where immediate survival of you and the people you care about is more important than anything else. any incongruence i felt with my body went away as i imagined these scenarios.
i would not survive even the weakest zombie apocalypse, but i still genuinely wanted something like that to happen. i still do, in a sense. i want to feel alive and free, even if it's for a fleeting moment.
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>>41479142
Not relevant. The overwhelming majority of the Christian right are white and the impetus of their initial political organization was resisting desegregation in the South. Their other prominent issues like abortion, traditional family values (anti-LGBT, parent's rights) etc. emerged later as they sought alliances with Catholic interest groups and so on.
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>>41479223
>and the impetus of their initial political organization
Anon that's the Southern Baptists, who are neither the originators of Evangelicalism (though most have been sucked into it) nor are they the only Christian organization in the US. Evangelicalism started with midwestern Methodist churches.
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>>41473880
hot anime girl ones
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>have problem
>realize it could be way worse
>problem becomes a nothingburger
i'll rep forever. i'll never troon out. i won't break.
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>>41479209
literally me, I was really into apocalyptic media and doomsday prepper stuff as a kid.
I think it's ultimately an escapist fantasy for a lot of the people who are.
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>>41479209
I was into that JRPG post-apocalypse style thing where there are ancient ruins of our world/some super scifi world but now everything is magical high fantasy adventureland.
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>>41467882
no, because chances are being the ugliest woman will have me looking like a man with xx chromosomes
I'm fine with looking ugly (already have plenty of experience there), but ugliest in the WORLD is an astronomically massive jump to where I'm guaranteed to have some sort of debilitating deformity
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>>41477998
/trash/ has the Girls You Want to Be thread and while it's obviously pornographic and more AGP adjacent it is one of the fastest moving generals on the board and well into the triple digits, which makes one wonder.
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>>41480930
smt?
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It really is hopeless isn't it? Even communities for trans people hate trans people
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>>41480930
>>41481707
Very male brained hobby. I loved this game, and that's what tells me I will never be a woman
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>>41482217
RPG games as a genre have like a 30% female playerbase, anon. Granted it's mostly the popular stuff like Skyrim and Final Fantasy, but it's a thing. My sister has played more Bethesda games than I have and also really likes Baldur's Gate 3 and all the Pokemons.
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>>41482402
I've played more than that though
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I want to be hot anime girl
how do i even accurately describe how much i NEED. To be a hot anjme gilr
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>>41477998
/r9k/, /g/, /jp/, and /c/
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>>41475831
Don't kill yourself, live out of spite.
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>>41483788
spite who nigga
repper life is just an extended humiliation ritual
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>>41479209
I just want a quiet apocalypse like GLT or the beginning of 28 days later. I just want to walk around the structures built by man while alone and more importantly not being eaten. I don't ask for much.
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>>41484669
God
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I know I'm not really trans because I'm dom/top with a rape, cheating, etc fetish
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>>41479209
How would i enjoy being a hot anime girl when society is gone
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>>41484669
Nothing's more humiliating than giving up and joining the 41%. Live to spite those who'd rather see you give up.
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>>41484794
being trans and those fetishes are not exclusive, I have a rape / cnc kink too (but only to be on the receiving end)
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>>41484804
>receiving end
yes, like a normal woman
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>>41484808
I still think that even if you were into the other side you could still be trans
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>>41467773
my brain is too broken by socialization and trauma and forcing myself to act in a way that brings me pain out of avoiding pain that would be inflicting on me if I were too faggy to try to engage with authentic behaviors from myself that are feminine.

I tried watching a shoujou anime and I watched 1 episode and enjoyed it but had to stop because I was overwhelmed.
24/7 I get to listen to my own thoughts (I have shizophrenia) call me an agp rapehon and other such stuff.

I just want to be reborn.
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>>41467773
I tried this in highschool and was bullied relentlessly. That's a large part of why I rep.
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>>41467773
I can't act feminine, I'm a man. Even as a trans woman I was a malebrained and stolid. I'm dead inside. I attend musicals and don't clap.
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>>41482217
i wonder what the most malebrained games are; i'm definitely thinking map-painting games like EUIV, HOI4, CK2 and the like
geoguessr, too, every supposedly female good player I find ends up being a troon
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I have absolutely no understanding of how female brains work. Most of the time they seem unreasonable or mean spirited, and I think most Trans people (repper or otherwise) are like this as well if theyre being completely honest with themselves. Youre all malebrained, the only ones who aren't are the ones who trooned as early as possible and I still don't see that.
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I just found out there was a toxic yuri game jam and now I'm going to be eating good for the next year at least.
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>>41473358
>that external drive on the desk
You know it smell crazy in there
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>go to 4tran
>filter by repressor tag
>half the shit there is stuff I posted in this general
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>>41485392
r*dditors farming our suffering for content
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i want 2 b hot anime girl
I WILL NEVER STOP WANTING TO BECOME ANIME GIRL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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how do i know if i behave faggy? or like a straggot?
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>>41485773
and how to fix it?
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>>41484880
>forcing myself to act in a way that brings me pain out of avoiding pain
first time i can kinda relate to someone almost
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>>41486937
This is slowly happening to me
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People tell me I look scary and intimidating and it fucking kills me inside, it's like total condemnation of my face. I don't want to look like some big scary man holy shit.
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>>41487062
Take your pills
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I wish I could be a part of cringe transbian culture
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I'm not even dysphoric. I just managed to gaslight myself into thinking that life isn't worth living as a man
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>>41487137
morning affirmations
>>41487107
I know, whenever people post those group pics to make fun of them I can only think about how happy they look and how ppl tell me I never look happy in pictures
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>>41487107
>beep boop you will make ze opossum fursona
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>>41487798
it would be cute, I'd wear ears and lingerie
being a man is just no fun
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I think my gay coworker is close to figuring it out
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>>41488212
I once had someone I was interacting with keep gendering me female so my boss took me aside to ask what my pronouns were
>You go by he/him, right? I only ask because those people kept calling you a girl...
>Yeah. I thought you were a little funny but that's okay. Good man.
Felt terrible. I can float by life just fine but being confronted with it like it was an option killed me
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>>41488456
I hate being asked by people you know won't get it. Its like
>are you a worthless faggot or not?
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is there any way to dissociate on purpose? i miss having no feelings
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>>41488551
I've found the best way to have no emotions is to stop taking hrt
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>>41488590
haven't ever started
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>>41488206
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I think my trans thoughts are likely a psychosis. I'll have to try antipsychotics
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Anyone got this deluded type of dysphoria where you aren't actually dysphoric but you experience lots of gender envy and despair that you're not a woman?

I suppose it's the brains way of defending itself from actual problems in my life (loneliness, anxiety) and creating a protective pseudo-problem (being "born in the wrong body").
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>>41467682
Im John, 43 and a neet. How to not go insane?
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>>41489256
>aren't actually dysphoric
>despair that you're not a woman
curious how you would define the word "dysphoric"
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>>41489256
You're not alone. I've been dealing with this for at least a year by now. Hrt gave me reverse dysphoria, but the envy and despair has not gone away. I'm still hopeful there's a way to get rid of this pseudo dysphoria
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>>41489312
I don't know what this condition is called, but the dysphoria it creates is very real and difficult to deal with. It makes me so sad I'm dysphoric but not actually trans.
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>>41489459
I'm also "dysphoric" and sometimes even break down from it, but I know transitioning will give me genuine gender dysphoria, so I just have to thug it out
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>>41489543
Yeah it's really difficult.
If you're anything like me, you probably wish you could have wide hips, a smaller waist, nice boobs, smaller shoulders and luscious hair. Oh and the fashion options :(

I want that. I genuinely do. But I don't feel like my body is wrong as it is. I don't feel bad in it. I'd just really like to have something else and I know HRT won't give me what I want :(
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I want to be happy as a tranny but im not
hrt did nothing
manmoding is a meme
im suicidal and bad at living
if I was truly a woman hrt would have saved me but it did nothing
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>>41467682
I only haye fat women because they waste their female bodies and let them become something horrible, no matter what i’ll do i’ll never be as good as a real woman because i can’t have a real vagina,
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have you ever been held down (by a man) and sucked to completion?
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>>41489590
I sometimes do desire these changes, and I also don't feel like my body is wrong as it is, but actually giving it more thought always makes me realize that I couldn't live with them no matter how much I'd want them. That's why I'm certain my dysphoria is not real, but yours does sound like regular gender dysphoria
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I have 3DPDysphoria and the only way to fix this is by being turned to a hot anime girl
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would you guys make a deal with a demon to look like whatever you want to? you gotta worship that being until you die and that may or may not damn your soul to hell for all eternity.
asking for a friend
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>>41490224
i will worship the anime girl demon and become a hot anime girl for all eternity
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>>41490224
is this how i become a succubus?
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Im quitting hrt today. Can i post here again?
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did someone here try treating their tranny thoughts with different types of psychotropic medication? I suspect my dysphoria is fake and I recently got access to most pharmaceutical-grade meds a hospital would have access to. Thinking of trying some antipsychotics, mood stabilizers and whatnot (I haven't given much thought to what else could work) to see if I can make the thoughts disappear.
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>>41490559
Crazy pills don't work for this anon.
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>>41485206
Armored Core?
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>>41490559
This is my plan as well. I have great hopes, since my "dysphoria" doesn't align with how other trans people experience dysphoria. It feels manufactured.
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>>41490266
>is the demon doing bad things to other people?
maybe. depends on which one you call. marbas, in the ars goetia, is described as follows:
>The 5th spirit is called Marbas -- he is a great presedent, and appeareth at first in ye forme of a great Lyon: but afterwards putteth on humane shape at ye Request of ye Master he Answareth truly of Things hidden or secreet, he causeth deseases and cureth them againe & giveth great wisdome & knowledge in mechanicall arts, & changeth men into other shapes he governeth 36 Legions of spirits.

doing some research on this guy, (he's the only one that can "changeth men into other shapes" in the grimoire, so i assume most spirits that can do that will be similar to him) he's kind of a prick. may or may not kill your pets if you bother him too much, but he is strong and will do as asked if you can pay (think small gold statue of a lion drenched in your own blood).

>>41490458
>oh great marbas, i want to be a woman, but i cannot afford a worthy exchange, what do i do?
>alright you jackass, i'll do it. but you will farm loosh for me on the astral realm in the form of a succubus until you pay off your debt (will take centuries but he won't tell you that)
honestly not that bad of a deal.
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>>41490538
this is a thread for hrt reppers only...
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>>41490224
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>>41490735
>thread for reppers
>everyone in the thread is taking HRT
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>>41490625
have you tried them and they didn't work for you? I feel like my dysphoria is caused by some other mental illness or psychosis, so I have hopes that treating the underlying will help with the gd as well
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>>41490780
no trvereppers are taking hrt, those people are just obnoxious mmg spillover who need to gtfo
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>>41489626
literally me
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>>41490768
good futa furry porn artist
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>>41490780
honestly pretty funny to think manmoding forever won't have the same mental breakdown side effect as normal repping
>>41490559
I haven't but now that my self harm has gotten bad enough I think I might try, would need to find a shrink
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>>41490224
I'm not going to hell. If a demon was real and appeared before me I'm instantly becoming a jesus freak.
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I want to kill myself because of manmoding. It's better to never confront the reality of whether or not you can pass
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>>41491012
Repent and you will be saved.
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>>41467682
I have been repressing for over 30 years. I have also been cursed with an extremely feminine face. I will not be broken.
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Monty python has never been big in my 2nd world country, so I only knew "tis just a scratch" from 2000s internet, and the Loretta thing from trans online spaces up until today.
I've receny stumbled upon "The Lumberjack song" which goes:
>I cut down trees, I skip and jump
>I like to press wild flowers
>I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars
>...
>I cut down trees, I wear high heels
>Suspendies and a bra
>I wish I'd been a girlie, just like my dear Papa

do you think some of the members of Monty Python were reppers?
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>>41491658
life of brian features a trans joke that feels a bit too real tbhon
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do you even act femininely
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>>41491776
i got made fun of in high school for crossing my legs and moving in a way that seemed "zesty". i had no idea what they meant until i realized i move like a puppet, if that makes any sense (body part moves, i just let the movement go through my whole body instead of being firm, i walk like i have a weak handshake).
other than that, no. i was afraid of making women uncomfortable throughout my formative years, so any chance of learning how they act via being around them was non-existent. most of them were giganormies anyway, so i wouldn't have gotten along with them even if i tried.
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I almost went bald. am kinda shook. Luckily I noticed it before it got bad. never going off finasteride
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>>41490559
Im currently just trying and ssri but just started. Think it helps me with my anxiety at least. If I were you I'd start with ssri. try a couple, bupropion too, and then mood stabilizer if it doesn't work. And leave anti psychotics for last
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>>41491952
do they help with tranny thoughts at all? anyways thanks anon, will remember it
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guys dont fall for the hrt meme, i kinda knew this would happen but i was desperate and felt like throwing my life away. now after year of hrt i look exactly the same with slightly better skin and boobs. im a man with boobs for the rest of my life. theres literally nothing hrt is going to do at this point besides make my boobs bigger while i still look like a fucking guy. i have so much regret, ill never be able to have a relationship now. i wish i could go back and just try harder to accept myself as a man.
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My soul is tainted by gender bend feminization trap futa porn hentai and hrt
I’m literally the worst person on this board and that’s saying something
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>>41489626
i wish hrt did nothing

instead it gave me boobs and a weird estrogenic fat distribution and nothing else, at least if it dd ntohing you could just give up and no harm done.
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>>41491776
No I’m rugged male and a real ogre irl
Shrekmoding cuh
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>>41492014
Think it's still too early to say unfortunately, takes like 8 weeks to work for depression and im not there yet. Idk if it will help or not with tranny thoughts
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>>41492252
I wish I had boobs and I will never be able to have/want a relationship as a repper
gtfo
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>>41492297
if you want to be a man with boobs i wont hold it against you but thats not what i want.
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>>41492293
I wish it did something else
Like make me feel ok with my soul
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>>41492252
they will deflate some if you go off hrt. and enough muscle it can look not too terrible if you didnt get too much growth.
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>>41492312
I would prefer to be a woman with boobs obviously. Boobs alone wouldn't be enough to justify a transition destined for failure for me, but I certainly wouldn't complain about them.
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>>41492252
honestly with so many stories like this i've been wondering if we're missing something with hrt, like human growth hormone on the side while on a proper hrt regimen. obviously not a lot, but some once your hormonal levels are balanced should help, especially but if you're on the verge of roping it could be worth shot, no?
i dunno anything about this so i might be saying something stupid
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I RUINNED MY LIFE
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>>41492296
here's to hoping it helps you. will start with my experiments in a week or two, will update with my findings then
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>>41492359
>with so many stories like this
is this an actual thing or is it just the people in this thread are miserable anyway
i'd imagine if you went to an actual trans part of this board and posted about hrt doing nothing they'd help figure out how you've fucked up your dosing
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>>41492391
nope, conetits are a VERY common thing, even on correct dosages. trannies will rarely get actual breasts larger than an A cup from what i've seen. hrt literally does almost nothing to some people, and that's not an exaggeration.
a few will get great results, most people will get meh results, but some unlucky bastards get nothing. that's just how it is.
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How do I move on when I know I’m delusional and not really trans not even repressing anything just being a complete retard? Like this is almost tocd lol
Ok?
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>>41479209
Just desire to feel useful.
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>>41492478
i dont know, i first thought i was trans when i was like 12, then 14 it kind of solidified and since then its become more recurrent and insistent. ive been envious of every tranny ive ever known despite being nothing like them and i know it.
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>>41492573
Shut the fuvk up troon and take hrt and fuvk off
I’m a fuvking man not this bs mental illness and I need to escape this shit
Ffs every tranny is the same but when I want to transition I’m realizing I have nothing in common
t. Rapid Late onset gd tocd cis male loser

So when the 14 tranny tells me they are repressing I reduce my love fr expectancy by a day
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Another day another text message from my mother linking to some video on facebook of a redneck talking about how much he hates trannies.
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>>41491776
I got bullied severely in school by classmates and teachers for it, and by my father and brothers until I learned to just shuffle around like a miserable zombie, so not anymore but at one point yes.
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would a repper date a trans woman? should he?
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>>41494068
yes, no
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>>41493968
I'm sorry anon
I would cry
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>>41494787
It's okay, it's basically been like that my whole life and I'm mostly numb to it. You have to wonder if me being a tranny was their punishment for being so close-minded but I fucked up and repped so now I'm punished instead, or something.
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>>41490224
I'm going to hell regardless by the christians' definition, might as well make my time here less miserable, so absolutely
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> be me
> been having tranny thoughts for years, thought it was just curiosity
> find the most amazing, loving, caring girlfriend when I was 21yo
> one year into the relationship I realize I'm definitely trans and the deep seated depression and feeling like I wish I were born a woman with all my being will never go away
> think I can live with it, worth it for her
> sent her a meme about forcefemming one's boyfriend to see her reaction
> gf is 100% straight
> she says if I ever were to transition she'd be supportive but we'd have to break up since she wouldn't want a relationship with a woman

> fast forward to now, 4 years in and living together for 2
> I moved to a different country for her
> financially dependent on each other
> turns out I can't really live with my troonness because I'm weak
> I basically have to choose between living with crippling depression and dysphoria for the rest of my life; or breaking her heart, uprooting my entire life and everything I've done, and losing my amazing gf

I honestly can't see myself alive past 40, and even 40 is pushing it. I might just rope and be done with it. It's too late to transition anyway.
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i will not bother to live my life until i become a hot anime girl
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I wanna be a cute anime girl and grope my friends breasts ( in a non sexual way)
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I bought a cute nightdress to wear to bed but I caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror while wearing it and I threw it away
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>>41492367
CUT MY HRT TITIES INTO PIECES
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
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>>41490224
That’s the stupidest thing you could do, if a demon is real and is looking for your soul then there’s a pretty good chance there is a benevolent god somewhere, and there is something after death

Tell the demon to fuck off, live your life nicely then after you die beg to be reincarnated as a cute girl, if you sell your soul then is just over for eternity, with reincarnation you can live a ton of diferentes girl lives that can be even better than whatever your current ideal life is
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>>41497130
i wear one a lot of nights but i make sure to clean up and shave
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>>41490559
but i like pain
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>>41496316
fuck your gf, man, she doesn't love you if she doesn't really know you and willfully ignores your feelings
you're a monkeybrained idiot like those fags who would marry straight women and have kids
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>>41491776
i think i did a bit before but the more i become aware of it the more i get rid of it so it's like the scrodingers cat
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that's why I don't date like how could I ever get close to someone hiding everything about myself
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>>41497259
I had a gf in highschool and she let me wear her school dress one time. I think she knew something was up because I asked her to put makeup on me one time. She acted uncomfortable so I never brought it up again and we broke up not long after.
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>>41491776
Not really. I killed that side of me
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HRT repper, manmoder or boymoder measurements? The difference between my chest width and bideltoid is absolutely awful and makes me look like a coat hanger.

Height: 164 cm / 5'4 ½

Neck girth (larynx): 34

Neck girth (base): 36

Foot girth: 24

Shoulder width (biocromial): 40

Shoulder width (bideltoid): 42

Bitragion-menton arc: 31

Bitragion-frontal arc: 30

Byzogomatic breadth: 14.3

Bustpoint distance: 23 (way worse now, hasn't been updated)

Buttock girth: 94.5

Waist: 68

Chest breadth: 30

Chest girth (bust): 91

Chest girth (under bust): 80.5

Crotch-waist length: 60

Foot breadth: 10.5

Foot length: 26.5

Hand breadth: 8.8

Hand girth: 20

Hand length: 18.5

Head breadth: 14.2

Head length: 20.8

Hip breadth: 32 (hasn't been updated since i started pioglitazone)

Hip breadth (sitting): 32.5 (hasn't been updated since i started pioglitazone)

Inter-pupillary distance: 6.5

Neck to bustpoint length: 24

Thumb breadth: 2.22

Waist height: 100

Waist height (navel): 96

Waist to navel distance: 3

Proportions:

Midface ratio: 1.054

Facial height-to-width ratio (FHWR): 1.83

Bideltoid/bizygomatic width ratio: 2.94
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Think I just want to be happy in my own skin and desired tbqh
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>>41491658
>>41491729
no it's just part of british culture to make fun of tranny-like people
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>>41490224
This would make me think there's a good afterlife where I get to choose my appearance, so why the fuck would I trade an eternity of that for a measly 40 years of looking cute (Im assuming you dont get aged appearance wise here, just your body internally gets worse, otherwise it's like 10 years)
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>>41497130
why did you throw it away? what did it make you feel?

if >>41497199 doesn't help, maybe you're just lamenting what could've been, in which case you should wear one more, it will bring you closer to your dreams
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>>41497243
I don't hate it either, the pain has been relatively constant for years so it kind of comforts me now because I know it so well. The issue is on bad days the mix of gd+mental illness renders me non-functional and I can't focus on work/hobbies or handle social interactions. The ratio of bad days has been increasing recently from (prev) maybe 5-10% to +50% now so I decided to take action.
I'm jealous of you for being able to just deal with the pain so easily if you gain pleasure from it. I'm happy for you but I wish I had what you do.
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>>41491776
I have some "mannerisms" that are effeminate, mostly with how I step over things (that gay little hold your arms up a bit for balance), and my wave to people is a bit feminine too but in general no, I am pure man mode.
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>>41497101
do you not want to be a hot anime lesbian



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